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Your submission at Articles for creation: Tetra-n-butylammonium iodide (January 16)

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Hi VaudevillianScientist! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Kj cheetham (talk) 11:51, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Kj cheetham, I'm still learning how and when to tick these boxes. VaudevillianScientist (talk) 12:27, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Quoc Viet Le moved to draftspace

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Quoc Viet Le (November 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Cabrils was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs to

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Well done on creating the draft, and it may potentially meet the relevant requirements (including WP:GNG, WP:PROF) but presently does not. Wikipedia's basic requirement for entry is that the subject is notable. Essentially subjects are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. To properly create such a draft page, please see referencing for beginners. Please familiarise yourself with these pages before amending the draft. If you feel you can meet these requirements then resubmit the page and ping me and I would be happy to reassess. As I said, I do think this draft has potential so please do persevere!

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Hello, I'm David Eppstein. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Olga Kocharovskaya, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! —David Eppstein (talk) 18:17, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David, the birth year was from the Russian Wikipedia page. For reference, there are two available online

https://id.oclc.org/worldcat/entity/E39PBJymyXfPx4GwkmbTBqjwG3.html (in English)

https://memoclub.ru/2015/09/palatka-vo-dvore/ (in Russian, search for Ольга Анатольевна Кочаровская) VaudevillianScientist (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Greetings

I see you have been very active in articles about chemists. I tried to write an article about Peter Gill, but it been moved to draft space as Draft:Peter Gill (chemist). Could you take a look at it and perhaps help me to get it accepted? I think the major problem is the lack of direct sources. Some of the links support the text but they are not direct sources. I have been on WP for a long time and I am now getting old and my memory is getting worse. I was an admin but gave it up because of my age. All best wishes. He is noted as a member of the World Association of Theoretical and Computational Chemists. Bduke (talk) 05:27, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Gill

I have been thinking about this article too, but you are way ahead of me. You might find this link useful: http://watoc.net/watoc.dirac.html WATOC/our-people/academic-staff/p-gill.html and this one https://www.sydney.edu.au/science/about/our-people/academic-staff/p-gill.html. Let me know if you think I can help further. Bduke (talk) 04:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brian, I'm confident that the draft as of its current status will be accepted on Wikipedia. One of the two links you provided is already cited. Stay tuned for the result! Cheers. VaudevillianScientist (talk) 04:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Well done. I agree. I am getting too old. Are you a computational chemist? I was but retired nearly 20 years ago and my links with and interest in computational chemistry declines every year. Bduke (talk) 05:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brian, I'm not a computational chemist but collaborated with a few in the past. I can understand why your interests decline over time...If you let me know your contact info such as the email, I'd be happy to connect. VaudevillianScientist (talk) 22:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Stewart Fotheringham question

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I saw your move on the page Stewart Fotheringham and just had a quick question. I struggled with naming it originally honestly because of his inconsistent name use, with most publications going by A. Stewart Fotheringham. However, when I was deciding on the original page name I found online sources (of varying quality) for Alexander Stewart Fotheringham, AS Fotheringham, Alexander Fotheringham, and just Stewart Fotheringham, [1]. I decided to be safe and include his full name Alexander Stewart Fotheringham, mentioning he usually goes by A. Stewart Fotheringham in the page. I'm very low confidence on any choice, which is why I included the full name, but I was wondering how you decided his preferred name was Stewart Fotheringham, as most publications at least have an "A" in front of the name. If dropping the Alexander, Wouldn't "A. Stewart Fotheringham" be closer to what it seems he prefers to publish under (such as J. R. R. Tolkien, J. K. Rowling)? Thanks for clarification. Is there a source for his preference besides one being used more regularly? Is there a Wikipolicy or design criteria I can use for future guidance?

Without any outside source, I just assumed he might be trying to differentiate himself from other researchers with a similar name, and was using his middle and first initial rather then the conventional first and middle initial to do that. However, I don't know him and am only going off of what I see.

Thank you for your help! GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 18:27, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He uses that on his official website

https://search.asu.edu/profile/2372224 VaudevillianScientist (talk) 19:40, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but he also uses "A. Stewart Fotheringham" on the same website, and has more then one publications/sites with different preferences. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 20:54, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

He's called Stewart in life. It also helps with online search without Alexander, which is the purpose of a wikipedia article. You can definitely write his full name in the introduction paragraph. A lot of the times people use a nick name as the article title since it is easier to find publicly.

On the side, I see your great progress in adding these quantitative geographers into wikipedia. It's still lacking an entry on Andrew D. Cliff, perhaps you are working on that. VaudevillianScientist (talk) 22:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Check his self intro here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvMYYpHhpjM VaudevillianScientist (talk) 22:23, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have not seen that video, nice find. From a publication standpoint, most of his work is A. Stewart though. With multiple sources for each variation, including the A. Stewart on his personal site, I'm unsure on dropping it completely, especially as thats the name on his textbooks and on multiple peer reviewed publications (Many pages include a middle initial if the person uses it frequently I've seen). However, if we're going with how he introduces himself in public, that might be a good argument.

Sorry, I spent a couple days stewing on the name and took what I thought was the most "conservative" approach. As long as the choice is supported by sources and thought out though I'm not going to argue the point. Thanks for indulging me! GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 03:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Rationale for adding names to Crystallography template?

If they have a Nobel, won the Ewald or similar then they clearly belong. However, it is not clear that all the recent names reach this level. I have posted on the template, and also asked IUCr & ACA for comments as I think we should be careful about this. Ldm1954 (talk) 23:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There is certainly no question about his notability, he is one of the most famous X-ray diffraction experts of the 20th century. I will suggest adding a scientist box and image.

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Ldm1954 (talk) 05:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Great article. I think you should be autopatrolled. Aszx5000 (talk) 18:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, how do I use this capability? VaudevillianScientist (talk) 16:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks a lot @Schwede66 and thanks for your suggestions! Yes, I will be sticking with high standards. VaudevillianScientist (talk) 00:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please provide an edit summary for every edit you make. With a Wikipedia account, you can give yourself a reminder by setting Preferences → Editing → Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary), and then click the "Save" button. Thanks! Spideog (talk) 15:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Side-comment from AFD on timeline of UFOlogy

First of all VaudevillianScientist please do not let the outcome of this AfD and the useful, necessary disputes between editors that are part of editing Wikipedia discourage you from continuing to contribute!
I was reading your discussion with Sgerbic I wanted to share my point of view in case this can help.

Please understand that there are different expectations when including information on different articles, based on the article's subject. If I look at the article for a given European sailor/explorer of the 17th century, I would not be surprised if it includes a voyages section detailing each journey they took, even if no individual journey is sufficiently notable to have a separate article. However, if I look at a timeline of relevant European exploration, I would not expect to see each of these journeys; in fact I would expect to see none of them, unless during one there was a specific feat, discovery or event that has been very widely commented on. Perhaps in other articles that are more specific (say, the article or history of a specific city, country or population) it would be relevant to note contact with the sailor / explorer; but again, this would only be expected if it was notable for the understanding of that article.

Coming back to the timeline of UFOlogy and Leslie Kean's book. I would definitely expect it to be listed on the article about Leslie Kean. I would only expect it to have a separate article if it had been widely commented on and is a seminal work / major work in the field. Perhaps in 30 years this will be the case, but from a quick internet search, right now this is not the case. In specific articles about events, people that she comments on (etc.) it may be relevant to mention her analysis or their contribution to her book, sourced appropriately. But in the timeline I would very strongly not expect such a work to be mentioned.

Happy editing! Shazback (talk) 20:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Shazback! I'm glad you toned down my words somewhat, text can be so frustrating to hear tone. I feel a bit frustrated that VS does not seem to be understanding what I'm talking about, but then that is my problem. I see that VS probably has a lot to give back to the Wikipedia community, they have spent a lot of time on this article and it can be a hard lesson when your peers choose to delete your work. I've been there many times, finally I really read what they wrote and understood from their perspective that they are here for the best of Wikipedia, and the rules should apply across the project. Now I try harder to make sure I have proved notability before I invest the time it takes to write an article. Sgerbic (talk) 21:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]