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Gary Burghoff / actor

Dear United States Man... As a guy who is fairly computer illiterate (me), you can imagine my frustration when trying to "correctly" edit a Wiki page on Gary Burghoff, only to have it undone, twice. I have no idea what "not constructive" implies, as to the reason my two attempts at editing were undone, but Gary is a very good friend of mine, and I am doing this as a favor to him. I co-authored TV's M*A*S*H; The Ultimate Guide Book, and met Gary through my work on that. He has been bothered by the mistake on his Wiki page for some time, as his middle name is, indeed, "Rich", which was his mother's maiden name, and not "Richard". I have no idea why this edit was deemed not constructive, and hope it will be corrected. Mark O'Neill Cartoonistguy47 (talk) 00:59, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm in communication with Gary to see if he mentioned Rich as his mom's maiden name, in his autobiography (put out by the same publisher as my M*A*S*H book). It seems odd to be requesting a reliable, online article as a source when, in fact, such a source seems responsable for the very mistake I'm patiently trying to correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartoonistguy47 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

United States Man—when you revert someone's edits that are not obvious vandalism, please use an edit summary explaining why. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 01:52, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

I just spoke with Gary Burghoff on the phone. I asked him, specifically, if, in his autobiography, he lists his middle name as "Rich" (which is after his mom's maiden name). He said that on page 6, paragraph 4 of To M*A*S*H and Back, by Gary Burghoff (Bearmanor Media), he writes that his mom's name was Ann Rich Burghoff. It does not specifically say it's his middle name, but Gary was quick to point out that nowhere in his autobio did he write that "Richard" is his middle name. In fact, Gary said other online sites devoted to him or MASH have him listed as "Rich" being his middle name, and that Wikipedia is the one that has it wrong. I hope we can resolve this soon, as I am a very tired, stay at home dad. Mark — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartoonistguy47 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

...I just checked and saw "Rich". THANK YOU. I'll let Gary know, immediately. However, I don't know if he's aware of it, or what, but IMDB has it wrong, too. No way I'm attempting to work on that one, tonight, no way. Bed time. Ok, listen...thanks. I appreciate the help. Mark O'Neill — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartoonistguy47 (talk • contribs) 02:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

...I like to think of myself as fairly intelligent, certainly creative. But, in trying to send a message to United States Man, I see that one or two of my messages are now public? It's all very confusing. If someone can delete any "public" posts of mine, I'd be grateful. If not, no problem. The problem appears to be resolved, as Gary is now listed correctly, as Gary "Rich" Burghoff. Thank you Cartoonistguy47 (talk) 02:11, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Note related discussion mentioning your name here. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 19:47, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Now that you, with your own eyes, have seen that Rich is his mother's maiden name, you are still fighting my simple edit. Obviously, somewhere along the line, someone assumed Rich" meant Richard. Not true. I've cited my own book on MASH, from the very same publisher of Gary's book (Bearmanor Media, Ben Ohmart, publisher). Gary did his book specifically because of my connection to that publisher. Last night, I asked Gary, specifically, about the fact that his book says it's his mother's maiden name, but that it doesn't say it's his middle name. His direct reply was this; "The book doesn't say "Richard" is my middle name, either." Nevertheless, I can see you are not going to give up. Neither are we. I have now suggested that Gary, himself, contact both Ben, his publisher, first, then IMDB. Why a 47 year old dad of a son still in ever needing to be changed diapers would go to all of this trouble, on a very simple edit, if it were not true, I don't know. If Gary could simply call someone at Wikipedia and straighten it all out, it would solve everything and remove me from the equation. But, I can find no specific person one contacts for a dispute. I think what's most frightening, as I told Gary, is that getting a site like Wikipedia, or IMDB to print the truth, is harder than getting them to preserve a falsehood. For your own personal information, if you have doubts about me, simply contact Bearmanor Media, and ask if Gary Burghoff knows Mark O'Neill, and tell them I said it's ok to answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartoonistguy47 (talk • contribs) 19:52, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

...I'm also confused as to why there doesn't seem to be any place to leave a "private" message, as I hadn't planned on this becoming a public battle. Once this is settled, I will be deleting these posts of mine, if possible. Originally, I had assumed leaving a message meant it went into a private message box. And I'm also completely out of the loop as to why four squigly dashes are required to sign a post. All of this may seem easy and obvious to those in the know, but to a casual visitor, it's quite complicated. Cartoonistguy47 (talk) 20:06, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Personal communications are not a reliable source for Wikipedia purposes, see WP:RS. If Mr Burghoff wants this corrected, he should use the process set out at WP:BIOSELF to contact Wikipedia.--ukexpat (talk) 20:08, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Finding a way to communicate with a specific person on this site is nearly impossible, unless you are a computer whiz, I assume. But, since interested parties seem to find my messages, wherever I inadvertantly leave them, I'll leave this final one, here. As a minor note, Gary does not want "R." put as his middle name, as he is very proud of the "Rich" family name. Secondly, I'm going to enlist the aide of someone who knows Wikipedia and all of it's means of communications, far more than I do, as this has become needlessly impossible, despite my understanding that anyone could say they know a celebrity. In my opinion, I backed up my relationship as friend with plenty of avenues with which to verify. Finally, if I were going to add some slanderous information, or make a completely absurd edit, I could see the fuss. But changing Richard to Rich, with several deatiled explanations as to why, and then at least one volunteer editor saw, with his or her own eyes that the maiden name in question was in fact "Rich" (which proves nothing but certainly adds weight to my argument), all seems so unworthy of this battle. Onward to other avenues. Just as an aside, let's assume I'm 100% valid in my points. Imagine how frustrating it is for a guy like Gary, who's hearing through me that, no, your middle name is not what you thought it was, it's now Richard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartoonistguy47 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

The best place to discuss your concern is at the biography of living persons noticeboard. There is an active section currently discussing the issue here. This was pointed out on your talk page. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:^simple/_complex 20:33, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

...I have contacted support at one of the links you posted, and asked how Gary can contact Wikipedia, directly. Certainly, I can see the need for verification, but this is maddening. I will not be re-editing, again, until and unless I have so-called reliable sources, even though I feel I've satisfied that requirement for such a small, simple edit. I also will be deleting any posts of mine that I can, except this one, as these were posted publicly, inadvertantly. My assumption was that "leaving a message" meant it went to a private inbox. Not so, unfortunately. Personally, I find this sort of frightening, that a massive site can have no "clear" means of private communication with a person actually in charge, to resolve an issue that, in short, can be summed up as an indifferent computer site and several unknown editors telling a man that what is actually true, is not. Frightening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cartoonistguy47 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Cartoonist, I totally understand everything you're saying here. A lot of people sort of don't give the benefit of the doubt to new editors. There are a lot of vandals that do drive-by defacing of these articles, inserting innocuous but wrong details, so I think some people get jaded by that. It's no excuse, but it's true, and I'm sorry this happened to you here. A note about messages: "private communication with a person actually in charge"—nobody is really in charge! We just hash things out in the appropriate venues and usually reason prevails. Usually. Don't worry about this particular issue; I'll make sure it gets sorted out. Regarding private messages; there is usually a link on people's pages saying "E-mail this user" (But United States Man has not opted in for this feature, so there is no way to privately message him.) Regarding private messages, if United States Man is agreeable I'm sure we can just erase these sections here from this talk page; is that ok? ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 21:21, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Actually, I think those of us involved in this issue have been more than helpful in trying to get it resolved and, at least as far as I am concerned, I resent the implication to the contrary.--ukexpat (talk) 21:27, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Beg pardon. I'm referring to a.) the confusing nature of this place: where to send messages, how to send private messages, etc and b.) the fact that the edit was twice reverted with no edit summary despite not being obvious vandalism. Frankly, initially at least, this new editor was treated like a vandal. I did not mean to imply that you were anything but super-helpful, ukexpat, and I'm sorry my comment made it sound that way. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 21:41, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Rollback

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He's at it again, removing maintenance tags on Madea (Tyler Perry), assuming ownership of the article. Cresix (talk) 22:46, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

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1974 tornado (Tanner #2, Super Outbreak)—F4 or F5?

I just realized that you have since emailed the National Weather Service about the discrepancy and that the official response is that the tornado is ranked F4. That seems strange, because the official Storm Prediction Center Storm Data databases (both here and here) list the second Tanner tornado on April 3, 1974, as being F5 in intensity. The second link in particular comes straight from the SPC and is current as of March 23, 2012, and there have not been any changes to the historical database in some years. Here is what the second link says:

The 1974 outbreak still holds the record for the most F5 tornadoes with seven, as opposed to four in the 2011 event.

The seventh F5 tornado would be the second Tanner event. Interestingly, regarding the 24-hour total of tornadoes in the Super Outbreak, the second link also states:

This supplanted the "Super Outbreak" of 147 [not the widely-quoted 148!] known U. S. tornadoes on 3-4 April, 1974.

Finally, the latest CSV version of the official NOAA tornado database, available here, not only lists the second Tanner tornado as being F5 in intensity, but also gives a 24-hour total of 147 tornadoes for the Super Outbreak. The Severe Plot database, which relies upon the same official data, also assigns both the second Tanner F5 rating and the 147-tornado total between each 12 UTC on 03–04 April 1974, a period of 24 hours. According to SPC, second link:

SPC typically uses the 24-hour "convective day" starting and ending at 12 UTC (7 a.m. CDT).

All these sources are current as of 2012 and all concur with the F5 rating for the second Tanner tornado as well as 147, not 148, tornadoes in the Super Outbreak. All the sources which do not rate the second Tanner tornado as being F5 either seem to be out-of-date or representative of independent, unofficial opinion, like that of Thomas P. Grazulis in his Significant Tornadoes histories, which rank the second Tanner tornado at F4 status (which may be what the Birmingham office used to assign the F4 rather than F5 rating, especially if some local meteorologists independently disputed the official F5 rating).

Nevertheless, for the sake of credibility, would it not be most prudent to go with the F5 rating for the second Tanner tornado, as the views of some NWS offices still do not represent the official word? CapeVerdeWave (talk) 21:01, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi United States Man, there's a request for comment that you might not have noticed here. I interpreted the inline comment you left in this edit to mean that the alternative names would be acceptable to you if they included references. So I have taken the liberty of going ahead and restoring it, with the references you requested. If I am in error, could you please drop by and make your actual intentions known at the request for comment? Thank you, Sławomir Biały (talk) 14:02, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

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Re: Hattiesburg tornado

It looks pretty good. One thing that might be worth considering is a bit of mention on the other tornadoes in the outbreak. I will see about getting the radar picture up and maybe later get some of the damage in. TornadoLGS (talk) 07:59, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Here are some pictures I am considering for the article from the damage survey. I will only use one or two of them. What do you think?

[1], [2] [3], [4], [5] TornadoLGS (talk) 21:32, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

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Mistake

Sorry for the mess...I forgot the tornado only goes on a new day if it was after 12z, not 00z. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:30, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Reports

Where do you get your tornado report totals from? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 16:33, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I just go through all the reports for each day in February and add them all together since that page tends to be behind sometimes. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 17:28, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Tornado map

Hello United States Man,

I guess you are the one who created the page of tornado data, I sure do appreciate it.

Seeing the GPS coordinates I decided to try to find a way to map them, since some find that useful, I know I do.

You can see the map at http://batchgeo.com/map/7e2d231eb714661c93a17bf3aa77a930

Did you look at the map before deleting the link to it? Didn't like it? May I ask what you found objectionable?

Can you tell me where your data came from please?

Would be great to hear from you.

Gary Direct: gary hawk a t g mail dott etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.61.150 (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:74.61.61.150&redirect=no

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I created the table to the right. →→→→→ [hide]Map of all coordinates from BatchGeo

I used your table and I will put it back on the page in a proper page. I have one question though. Did you create the map or was it someone else? If it was you, could you please continue doing that. I will keep you informed on how to split the months it you will agree. United States Man (talk) 01:14, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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I created it, using your data. Please consider taking the first spreadsheet: http://sellerline.com/bin/tornados_of_2013.xls ...and make it available to whomever might be willing to keep it updated. They would simply input latest new data into the spreadsheet, select all, paste over the data in the field at the top of http://batchgeo.com/ which will create the map and provide the new URL, then you can just use that URL on your page. :) (Sorry my mind is scrambled eggs over this Wikipedia system, and busy, so it would be better if someone more dedicated take the reins of the map). Thanks.

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Would like an opinion

I think I might put the article from my sandbox up, but am wondering about one thing. Grazulis lists a killer F3 tornado in Louisiana on March 19, the day before the major violent tornado activity started. The general description for the outbreak, though, is with the first significant tornado of March 20. It isn't the only time Grazulis described an outbreak on the nentry for a tornado that wasn't the first of its outbreak. Some am I safe in including it in the outbreak article? TornadoLGS (talk) 01:01, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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Too specific? That summary was no more specific than the others. Important details such as when the tornadoes reached peak intensity and what occurred there were left for no reason. It was a confusing passage. You left big gaps in what EF intensity was in certain parts, or the towns they were near or impacted. That is perfectly relevant information directly from the official NWS survey, that deserves a place on wikipedia. Read they surveys please! There is no "flow" being disturbed here. I admit, I thought the fire hydrant thing was in the source posted but it wasn't. Other than that it is all there. Check them yourself please. If you want it to say pavement that is fine though, that is pretty trivial. Other than that, as long the info is relevant to the topic and sourced from a reliable official page, there is no reason to revert it. Sharkguy05 (talk) 04:38, 7 April 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharkguy05 (talk • contribs)

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You still haven't provided sources for the examples that I gave above. The article now says that 2 tornadoes passed through Nashville, but the cited source clearly says 3.[6] And where is the source for the duration of the storm? Kaldari (talk) 05:11, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

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List of United States tornadoes from January to February 2012

I've reverted the List of United States tornadoes from January to February 2012 back to the format that TheAustinMan. The format he provided it with made it a more useful article than the current bare-bones format every other list supplies. It gives an overall summary of the time period the list covers and provides some meteorological info. It's a far better way to represent the info than the way the others are. All the other lists seem to be is a place to dump tornado info that isn't included on the main "Tornadoes of ####" article. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:34, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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The event that happened from the 24th to the 29th was much larger than it looked. There were many tornado warnings on April 27 heading into the evening, and tornado and wind damage in Fayette County, TN was much more than anyone would think. I saw a picture on the Weather Channel, and whole houses were knocked down as well as many power poles and trees. If you read this message, please consider letting me keep that section in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManhattanSandyFurystorm (talk • contribs) 14:17, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

First of all, there were only two systems, not three. Second of all, over 85% of the damage in Fayette County was from the tornado, and about 15% from the wind, even if the wind did do a lot of damage. Two tornado warnings had been posted for the tornado. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManhattanSandyFurystorm (talk • contribs) 14:34, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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List of United States tornadoes from January to February 2012‎

I'm not sure what is so hard to understand. There is no strong consensus for either TAM's proposal or yours regarding whether there should be a lede or a season summary section. Therefore, the article is to remain the way it was prior to either proposal. You don't get to choose yours just because. And by the way, it's not vandalism, and I'm well aware of the 3RR rule. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:46, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Have you even checked my revisions before reverting them. I made it clear in my edit summary that I reverted PRIOR to your revision OR TAM's revision. Meaning there is no summary section and the lede is still one sentence. Not sure what the problem is here. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:05, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

No problem, everybody makes mistakes. Just glad it's solved. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:09, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

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I merged the content of the article into the main 2013 article since it creates an unnecessary content fork. The information easily fits within the main article and causes no issues. As a stand-alone, it's essentially a useless stub that's further away from the average reader's eye - people are less inclined to keep following links to get info. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 22:52, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Tornadoes of 2013

I don't want to start up an edit war so I'm avoiding reverting again. If you're going to refer back to older tornado year articles please pay note to the quality of them. The further back you go, the worse they get. Formats change over the years as better ways of representing the information are put together. The addition of so many unnecessary headings makes the article more difficult to navigate for the average reader. It ends up creating excessive whitespace when the information can easily be put into a single paragraph at the start summarizing the information. There's no need for one sentence sections, and it's best to avoid those. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:30, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

It's all good. That's what discussions are meant for. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 23:55, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

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Tornadoes of 2013

Why exactly has nobody updated the beginning of Tornadoes of 2013 since Saturday? Do you know anything why? Leave it on my talk page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ManhattanSandyFurystorm (talk • contribs) 23:59, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit reversion

Hello. I made an edit on the May 18–20, 2013 tornado outbreak article page, but I saw that you reverted it. I thought that moving the link to the front of the row would be better in terms of formatting and information access, but I'd like to hear your opinion as to why you reverted my edit. In the future, please make an effort to explain your reverts, as they're quite helpful as feedback. Thanks. Prayerfortheworld (talk) 00:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Away

To let you know ahead of time, I will not be available for editing this week if you need pictures from the latest outbreak. TornadoLGS (talk) 05:55, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Removing references

When removing references with the name parameter inside of <ref> filled, please make sure that you replace the reference information further down in the article, otherwise it breaks references, like in this edit. Thanks! Inks.LWC (talk) 00:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Please source content

Since I know where you got the information and you're not one to add unverifiable material, I've left it be for now but please be sure to properly source information when you add it. This edit to the 2013 Moore tornado is entirely unsourced as it is not backed up by the Public Information Statement from NWS Norman. Since this is such a high-trafficked article at the moment, we need to be extra careful with unsourced information that could lead to misconceptions and possibly cause loss of credibility in the article. Best regards, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:30, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

It's a matter of having properly sourced material in the article. All information on the site needs to be verified, which I could not do for that edit. I know you had good intentions with that edit but you have to source your additions. If you cannot source it at the time, just wait until the surveys are done, the article isn't going anywhere :) Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Basically what I'm trying to get at is please add in some references when you add material. That's all I'm asking for here. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 16:53, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

May 17th TX tornadoes

I'm currently working on revamping the entire meteorological synopsis of the May 18-21 outbreak and going through its entire history. While working on May 17, I found that the system was at least partly the cause of the storms in Texas. It's responsible for the northerly flow of moisture that collided with a dry line in the region, though the system itself was just moving out of the Rockies. How do you think we should treat those tornadoes? Since there were only two, it's technically not an outbreak so we couldn't call the 17th part of the overall outbreak event, but it was related. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Alright, that sounds good. I'll just have them mentioned in the synopsis section then. I just finished up details for the 16th and 17th and most of the 18th so that'll be up soon. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:16, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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Please explain to me how properly using in-line citations to source information and using local time zones (which is already used by the article to begin with) "does not work". Not everything has to work by your preconceived conception of a "standard" for these articles. I'm trying to portray the information in the most appropriate manner and provide the proper means for people to easily find where that information was taken from. I get that the way you want to have it makes it easiest for you to update the tables, but that does not necessarily mean it's the most effective way of relaying information. Sometimes you have to take a little extra time (it's what, maybe 20 extra seconds to convert a few a few things and fill out a proper citation) to make the tables better. In the case of the May 18–21, 2013 tornado outbreak, CDT is a more appropriate time zone to use as it is the time zone where the vast majority of tornadoes took place and allows the reader to more easily understand the time of day it took place over UTC. CDT is already used as a medium within the meteorological synopsis so there is no reason for it not to be used within the tables. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:35, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

List of United States tornadoes in June 2011

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Re: New Formatting

Yup! I should be done with the May 18-21 outbreak within an hour (just gotta format all the references properly and gather details on dissipation/width. Those with NCDC details should be relatively easy to update in comparison to the more recent ones. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:18, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

There's still a lot of testing with this going on so I'm open to tweaking it :P I'll removing the "abbr" from the path width but as for the length and time, I think it helps having the same time (for consistency) and noting the track length as "brief" (especially if that's what's stated by the NWS). I only add brief if there's only a single point given on a track (like from NWS Wichita) or the report states brief (NWS Dodge City), otherwise I leave it as "unknown." Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:40, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Scratch the no abbr thing, it's causing awkward stretching in that column when there are larger comment sections. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 20:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

Reference URLs

Just as a friendly reminder, if you're updating a reference that uses a link from webcitation.org, please replace it with an updated version from that site. I use those to prevent dead linking from taking place before the NCDC storm summaries come out a few months from now. Many reports from the NWS over overwritten as new events take place (though major events such as Oklahoma are there permanently). It's just another way of ensuring that we can keep the information verifiable. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 05:39, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

Just remember to use those links in the references then :) I saw some were put back to the unstable NWS ones (St. Louis namely) a little bit ago Cyclonebiskit (talk) 05:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

The one I noticed right away was the Mount Olive survey. I had it at an archived URL earlier in the day and it's been changed to the unstable "first survey" URL of NWS St. Louis http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lsx/?n=survey1 Cyclonebiskit (talk) 05:53, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

It's not uncommon for the NWS to let info slip on the web. One example that comes to mind is from the April 9-11, 2011 outbreak. NWS Des Moines had a similar page up for the tornadoes in their area, with multiple survey maps, radar imagery, and text products. That page has ceased to exist. The concern is that it's a very generic URL, one that is frequently overwritten. I would not be surprised if the next time St. Louis has a survey that page is overwritten. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 06:00, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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Moore

Briarwood fatality was later confirmed by a sheriff. YOU are the one who needs to research. Initial report of no fatalities there was false. The Orr farm entry needed fixing as someone had it listed in the completely wrong area, even though it is clearly (google is your friend) right across the field from Briarwood in Moore. And no, Briarwood was not the first to experience the large swath of EF4, Orr was. Once again, look at the NWS survey map contours. I can't possibly begin to fathom how you feel that is incorrect since it is a verifiable fact. All of my additional statements can be backed up by the crisis map put together by NWS Norman. Stop acting like you run this website. I have discussed this with others and I am not the only one who feels this way. Cut it out, for all of the users of this website. Sharkguy05 (talk) 00:07, 27 May 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05

I've re-added the mention of the Briarwood fatality. It is explicitly stated in the reference that Sharkguy provided that "One child was killed at Briarwood Elementary School, elsewhere in Moore, said police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis." Short of a reliable source suggesting otherwise, there's no reason to question its reliability. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:18, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Aaand I've removed it again, after finding a source that reads, "A teacher at Briarwood Elementary told News 9's Karl Torp that students and staff took shelter before the storm struck in hallways and under their decks. There were some minor injuries but all students were accounted for." Since it's so unclear, it's probably wise to leave it out. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:25, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

OK I agree leaving it for now would be best, at least until there is further clarification. I would like to point out though that the source you used is outdated, as it was published before total death toll had even been figured out yet (article lists it at 37). The Briarwood fatality(?) was discovered after the death toll had been lowered. There are multiple more recently published sources that state that a fatality did indeed occur there. Sharkguy05 (talk) 00:32, 27 May 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05

Can you provide these sources? So far the NBC source is the only one indicating a fatality at Briarwood; many others clearly state that everyone survived. That said, it's true that some of them are a bit old and could be outdated. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:40, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

A few others:

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Oklahoma-Tornado-Death-Toll-Revised-208233181.html

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/national/midwest/10010691590156/search-of-oklahoma-tornado-debris-nears-end/

http://www.middletownjournal.com/feed/news/weird-news/moore-police-we-dont-believe-there-is-anyone-left/fNSTQ/

http://test.responsive.tulsaworld.com/site/printerfriendlystory.aspx?articleid=20130521_298_0_PeietB113028&PrintComments=1

Sharkguy05 (talk) 00:57, 27 May 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05

The WHDH source cites the Sergeant from the NBC article, so I don't think I'd count that as another source. The TulsaWorld source makes no mention of a death at Briarwood. The other two are legitimate, though. USM, what are your thoughts on a "some sources say X, others say Y" approach? – GorillaWarfare (talk) 01:04, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Tulsaworld had a quote, but since I posted it, it has been removed and replaced with a quote regarding supposed basement drowning. Makes me think it might be false then... Sharkguy05 (talk) 01:14, 27 May 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05

Tornadoes of 2013

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I just want to explain my reasoning behind adding the site as an external link. I do agree that fan sites are unreliable, but treating all fan sites the same integrity wise is unsettling. I have examined the site more times than a couple and use the site regularly to keep up-to-date on the airing of new Spongebob episodes. It has been shown to backup their claims with evidence from other noteworthy sites and has done good in becoming an informative site. I do not know if you have used the site personally, but I believe if you took the time to reexamine the information presented from the site, you would realize that it is more than people talking about what they love about Spongebob. So, in conclusion, I would ask that you reevaluate the site, backup your claim with presentable evidence against the site, and show that it is not a trustworthy source in gaining material.

Here is the link that was removed: http://www.sbmania.net/episodes.php

Here is the homepage: http://www.sbmania.net/index.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monoxide219 (talk • contribs) 03:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

MOS:NUMERAL and 2013 El Reno tornado

I've wasted too much time arguing the MOS lately, and I've always found you to be a reasonable editor on the various articles I've seen you on...so bringing this up here rather than just reverting the edit. :)

"Nine fatalities and up to 115 injuries" needs to either be "9 ... and 115", or "nine ... and one-hundred fifteen" (the latter of which is obviously silly.) See MOS:NUMERAL, the second rule about comparable quantities (the "cats and dogs" example.) Fatalities and injuries are comparable quantities, thus we need to use numbers for both in this instance. – 2001:db8:: (rfc | diff) 01:58, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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I have really had it with what has been going on here. This "control freak" attitude has got to stop, and trust me, I am not the only one that thinks that here. You seem to think you run the place, and have not given any reasoning to most of your revisions (and trying to do it under the table under the generic edit summary of "fixes"). My point being, you seems that you are incapable of realizing that you CANNOT revert sourced material just because YOU don't like the way it looks. This is a website for everyone to pitch in, not for one user to dictate. As long as my posts are sourced and relevant, you can't delete them okay? Please, don't immediately fire back with a fiery reply on my talk page, just try to think about what am trying to say here and give it some thought. Sharkguy05 (talk) 03:56, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05

Hateful? No, I don't feel any personal resentment toward you. Frustrated? Yes, very much so. I realize you aren't the only one at fault. Yeah, sometimes i'm a little lazy with the sourcing I admit, but you deleting "what you deem unnecessary" is the problem. My additions to the Edgar tornado and others like it are 100% relevant. Wikipedia tornado pages are some of the most informative you can fine, and im my opinion, the best detailed summaries you can find on tornado events besides Grazulis. A lot of specific, detailed information about certain tornadoes has been lost to time, and I don't want that happening here with current events. For example, even though they occurred in 1974, there is basically no available detailed information on the Guin and Tanner tornadoes. I really had to dig deep to get a basic picture of what happened there specifically. I don't want that kind of thing happening on these pages, so please, realize there is nothing wrong with detail. I will compromise and source more carefully. Sharkguy05 (talk) 04:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05

Exactly, so compromise needs to be an option here. Regarding NCDC, they sometimes leave out major details, such as the extreme damage that occurred in Smithville, MS. Sharkguy05 (talk) 04:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05

WP:3RR

Please do not continue your constant reverting. You've already violated WP:3RR and continued action will be considered intentionally disruptive. Talk it out with the other editor before continuing to edit the January 29–30, 2013 tornado outbreak. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 04:46, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Re: New tornado table

From my viewpoint, it would allow them to be sorted by state (something a lot of people may look for) so having the state column would be useful. I'm still waiting on TheRamblingMan's comments on the revised table so it's not final yet. Cyclonebiskit (talk) 00:37, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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Tornado summaries

I always appreciate your work with the tornado summaries (honestly I get lazy while updating and only include the major points). However, I think you went a bit overboard with the recent one in Kentucky :P That tornado alone accounts for about 2.4 kb of text, an extreme amount relative to the notability of that tornado. I know all the information available allows for such detailed summaries, but could you try and keep them within reason? If you could trim it down to maybe the same size as the June 2 Anderson, SC tornado that would be perfect. Thanks again! Cyclonebiskit (talk) 12:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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Article entitled "Margaret Mutu"

Warm Greetings from New Zealand,

Can I please ask why you have undone the corrections made to the article on Professor Margaret Mutu currently showing on Wikipedia?

Please forgive me if this is a presumptuous question - I am new to Wikipedia. I have tried to adhere to the Wikipedia policy regarding Biographies of Living Persons. I ask only because Professor Mutu is a living person and she has authorised me to correct the article that has been written about her.

I would greatly appreciate your response.

Ngati Kahu (talk) 01:52, 17 June 2013 (UTC)Ngati Kahu

Thanks you for your message about adding references. Are you able to please add in the following references about Professor Mutu's academic background and qualifications as I am no longer able to access the editing capability. http://artsfaculty.auckland.ac.nz/staff/?UPI=mmut003&Name=Margaret%20Mutu

Can I also perhaps ask whether you consider the article to be neutral as required by the Biographies of Living Persons policy. In this part of the world, New Zealand, such an article would read as a direct attack on the person named. I understand that Wikipedia policy is not to allow such articles.

Can you also please advise whether Professor Mutu, as the subject of the article, is able to have the article about her removed?

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Hello, my edits were constructive. The Daytime Emmys added about 50 minutes ago and therefore would be checked off. Thanks!

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Hello, I'm A.amitkumar. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Ministry of Education (Singapore) because it did not appear constructive. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Amit (talk) 03:48, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

re: Article entitled "Margaret Mutu"

Greetings once again,

Thank you for commencing inquiries and an RfC on this.

Unfortunately I cannot access a talk page for user name Charmlet that allows me to respond to her request to identify "direct attack on person named" so that she can fix it.

I hope you don't mind if I list some of them here and maybe you can pass them on to Charmlet:

Professor Mutu is not an "activist". In New Zealand, that is a derogatory term. Others label her as that (and the reference given is to those attacking her). She is a Māori leader and an academic. Professor Mutu is not from Auckland, New Zealand. She is from Karikari, Far North, New Zealand. She works at the University of Auckland in Auckland, New Zealand. Professor Mutu is not "chairperson of the Ngāti Kahu runanga executive". There is no such body. She is the chairperson of Te Rūnanga-ā-Iwi o Ngāti Kahu, the traditional council of representatives of the Ngāti Kahu iwi or nation. The fourth paragraph of the article quotes the opinions of a number of individuals who have misquoted and attacked Professor Mutu through the media for speaking on behalf of her iwi. In New Zealand, Māori who speak out in defence of their people are usually attacked. However academics such as Professor Mutu are protected statutorily from such attacks - hence the use of Wikipedia to air their attacks. The misquotes led to complaints to the Race Relations Commissioner but the article does not say that those complaints were all dismissed. The fifth paragraph results from the attacks in paragraph 4.

My humblest apologies if sending you this is inappropriate.

Professor Mutu has indicated that if this is all too hard then she will go through the process provided to have the article about her (which she had no part in writing) removed from Wikipedia. I presume that she commences that by contacting the administrators - is that correct?

Thank you for your patience.

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Hi. I am an employee of Critical Path and Mirapoint. I am trying to constructively update the info on our company on Wikipedia (the info has not been updated in years). However, I keep getting an error messages. Might you be able to help with any guidance in making the updates stick? Any help you could provide would be much appreciated. Thanks.

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Untitled

hey, can you help me recreate Earl Buxton Elementary School. 0alx0 (talk) 22:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

0alx0 (talk) 22:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

here is an article of another school in the same area.

[wikipedia.org/wiki/Westbrook_School]  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0alx0 (talk • contribs) 22:09, 17 June 2013 (UTC) 

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Well, I undid your removal. Everything is actual, factual and referenced extensively, by Reuters, etc. This is relevant info of the company Purchase of SAAB, bankruptcy of SAAB, huge claim etc. Habermat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Habermat (talk • contribs) 07:54, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

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"Freyja" in Freamunde, Portugal

From "http://www.cm-pacosdeferreira.pt/VSD/PacosFerreira/vPT/Publica/OConcelho/AsFreguesias/Freguesia8/Hist%C3%B3ria+da+Freguesia/", the municipal authority's site.: "Freamunde é um nome milenário. Genetivo de “Fredemundus”, é de origem Germânica. Raiz para a paz (Frea) e associação para protecção (Monde). Paz e protecção tal qual uma marca de origem, sueva por certo, a propor emblemático destino a uma população que terá começado ali para os lados de S. Martinho, em Freamunde de Cima."

From: "http://www.jf-freamunde.pt/pages/display/aorigemsuevica", the parish's official website: "Uma nova vaga de invasores suceder-se-ia e neles convém destacar os suevos, por serem os fundadores de Freamunde, “Uma povoação suévica da chã de Ferreira”, como consignava o Coronel Baptista Barreiros, na sua comunicação em Junho de 1957, no Colóquio Bracarense de Estudos Suévico-Brizantinos. Era um povo bárbaro que se estendeu por toda a região de Entre–Douro–e–Minho, estabelecendo em Braga, a capital do seu reino. Convertidos ao catolicismo no tempo do rei Recaredo, (em Fevereiro de 587) filho de Leovigildo, por influência de S. Martinho de Dume, fixaram um bispado em Meinedo (Lousada). O Apóstolo dumiense teria por cá passado e influenciado a adopção de S. Martinho de Tours, por quem tinha uma enorme devoção, para patrono ou orago de Freamunde."

I had already made reference to one of this sites. I am new in Wiki and must ask you or another user more used to all this to please insert these. I could translate it, but I am actually out of time right now.

Have a great weekend! And thank you! Ulrico Vulfe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.98.153 (talk) 03:37, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

A kitten picture for you

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

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User:Ivander12

Just fyi, it appears that User:Ivander12 has removed the PROD from many of his pages that you tagged. Any thoughts on how to proceed?

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PROD vs. AFD

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Revert on Enhanced_Fujita_scale

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Spelt

Spelt is fine outside the US for the past tense of spell. He's just a non-American vandal. Bevo74 (talk) 05:27, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Heh, yea, it is easy to get hooked into an argument. I agree that Chinese people should work on the Chinese WP, but I did not wanna suggest that. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 04:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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High Temperatures Republic Washington

OK, you're definetely right about 140 degrees- that said "Suspect" for quality control, but believe it or not, I saw 133 degrees at OK, thereby making the June record 133. Thanks, ManhattanSandyFurystorm (talk) 20:00, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

I'll only put it back if the Spokane office releases a record event report late. ManhattanSandyFurystorm (talk) 20:23, 30 June 2013 (UTC)