User talk:Titodutta/Archive 97
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MOS:DOC
Hello, I just used MOS:DOC while removing related honorifics from Desamangalam Ramakrishnan and then found that it is actually MOS:DOCTOR. I think that the former is fine to serve as a redirect for latter. What's your idea? - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 00:31, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- AaqibAnjum, if you want to redirect the shortcut to the section, I don't see any problem at all. --Titodutta (talk) 08:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I've started this. Please take it under your wing and expand on it and invite people to join. The Indian cinema challenge can still function separately and the entries tipped in or can merge if there is consensus. Basically we want to see articles improved on every subject covering every state and lots of destubs, not just new stubs! Best of luck with it, do Indian proud!!† Encyclopædius 21:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Somebody is complaining that 10,000 is too much, but I think it's exactly what India needs given the scope and number of articles. What we need is some sort of contest to get it off to a good start!† Encyclopædius 09:09, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks for your welcome message. I am still trying to understand the interface...so far so good. I need to know what happens next? Do you approve the page after which it goes live? How much time does that approximately take? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sameervbelvalkar (talk • contribs) 06:51, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- You need some experience before you can create pages. You may read WP:YFA to know how to create your first article. The page has a lot of usefull links to get started. You may also try WP:TWA. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 14:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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DYK for Kalavati Devi
On 11 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kalavati Devi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Kalavati Devi (pictured) has built 4,000 toilets so that people in Kanpur would not be subjected to a "living hell"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kalavati Devi. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Kalavati Devi), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 00:01, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
WikiProject India 10,000 Challenge
Request to Undo Page Move - Gurjar Kshatriya Kadia from Kadia Gurjar
Dear Tito Dutta,
similarly user Pawan Gupta moved page Gurjar Kshatriya Kadia to Kadia Gurjar, arbitarily without citing any reasons or citiation of names, I found it today only. Just checked he has already been blocked definately for his vandalism over many pages.
I request you to please undo the page move as Admin power you have, so that page creator and history are protected and page title of Gurjar Kshatriya Kadia is protected
Thanks Jethwarp (talk) 04:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Jethwarp, done, regards. --Titodutta (talk) 04:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- thanks again :-) Jethwarp (talk) 04:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- User:Jethwarp, possible to give an opinion here? If you can make sure to give your own thoughts freely. It is quite sometime I am looking for some opinion. Noticeboard was notified also. --05:23, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- thanks again :-) Jethwarp (talk) 04:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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Namàste, dearest Tito, how are you? Me and my family are going well, after the trouble about the virus!
I opened this short page and I ask, please, some minutes of your time to correct my mistakes.
Thanks a lot for your important help, see you soon.
Rei Momo (talk) 21:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Ciao Rei Momo, I have made some changes, I have renamed the article to Io sono Mia. In case there is more than one film we generally name it Film (2020 film) or so. I have also made a few minor changes. I have added a citation needed tag also. Please have a look. --Titodutta (talk) 04:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Grazie mille for your visit. I added a reference to your "citation needed". Thanks again!!! See you soon. Rei Momo (talk) 05:47, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thanks again for your recent DYK nomination - it went well we had 15,000 views. I continue to do these Nari Shakti Puraskar awardees including Sonia Jabbar who is an elephant friendly tea plantation owner. Obviously I'm not really sure whether the award is significant as others are saying "no". Could you cast an eye over that article and check its as good as it should be. All the best - Roger aka Victuallers (talk) 13:41, 16 May 2020 (UTC) |
- It is an interesting question. The highest women civilian award in a large country like India is a significant one, in my opinion. I am surprised to see the AfD. In future, if you create such biography, try to create those articles first who have got more awards, and have more notable activities in their career. This will make the notability thing clearer. You might post this at WT:INB (posting on an noticeboard in neutral-wording should be fine) and ask for expert opinion on the award and notability. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 01:42, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi
Can you take a look at varna section of kayastha page. Your help will be much appreciated. Bangali Babu Is Back (talk) 06:54, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- What do you want me to look at? --Titodutta (talk) 07:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Just keep an eye. It is a request. Bangali Babu Is Back (talk) 11:00, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi, now can you visit kayastha page and see its edit history as well as talk page. There is some funny business going on there. Do look into it. Bangali Babu Is Back (talk) 17:44, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
- I saw it right after your first message, anyway I have revisited the page. A required cleanup has been done, and discussed on the talk page. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 02:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi, look now, that cuckoo has turned the page into a personal hate blog. Even removing content that passes WP:V and WP:DUE. Can you arbitrate? Bangali Babu Is Back (talk) 12:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Further, can you tell me the names of some active Bengali administrators who can look into it? Bangali Babu Is Back (talk) 12:37, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Tito, if you are curious about what's happening with my actions against this account, email me. Of course, that's independent of you looking over the article as editor/admin, which would be most welcome. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 13:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Noted, I didn't have any query here (I thought I replied to this though). Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 06:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
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- MediaWiki message delivery, that is pretty interesting. --Titodutta (talk) 15:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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thank you for your support to encourage, thank you so much — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apbook (talk • contribs) 08:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Apbook, you are welcome. --Titodutta (talk) 15:16, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Help needed in improving and arranging a re-review of an AfC that has been rejected.
Hello there, I am trying to get a particular article(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Honey_Bafna) created under the Category:Living people Category:Male actors from Kolkata. I do understand the notability criteria, and therefore I have included newspaper articles both in Bengali as well as English about the said actor. Since I am new to writing a brand new article on Wikipedia, I also have tried to look at the format being used for articles existing about other actors in the same category. However, I am unable to grasp the difference between the reference material on those articles which have been sufficient for them versus mine. For example: I have took reference point of articles like Debadrita Basu, Jeetu Kamal etc. The last comment states that the article looks to have a COI with Zee Bangla, which I do not.Please advise how to improve and re-route the article for a re-review. Thanks much for your time.
Sohinimoitra84 (talk) 08:26, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- About the article: first have a look at this section WP:NACTOR, and read carefully,. This will help you to understand what is notability guideline. Second, add more reliable sources (such as newspapers) in English/Bengali as reference, those should discuss the actor's work in details.
Coming to the CoI, if you are employed/interned by someone (here the channel) or if you have any other form of conflict of interest, that should be disclosed. For example, if I am employed by a person, and and I write about him/her that is not really a good idea, and falls under CoI. Now I have noted in your message you mentioned you do not have a CoI with Zee Bangla/Zee. Looking at your contribution I see your contribution are mostly related to Zee Bangla programs. Note: that does not prove that you have a CoI, it is just a possibility. I personally like to watch Discovery and NatGeo programs a lot, but other than just a viewer, I have no other connection. But if there is something, I must disclose. Pinging User:1292simon, if they wants to add something here. With regards, --Titodutta (talk) 15:27, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Regarding the wikipedia article for actor Shashi Ranjan (actor)
Hi Administrator,
This is in reference to the jpg picture of actor Shashi Ranjan that has been removed from the wikipedia page. That image is a personal property of the subject concerned & I had obtained it from the actor/subject himself with an email corroborating the fact. I would like to request you kindly to restore the same as I reckon there's nothing wrong with the image. Kindly write to me for any clarification or if anything has be done by me as uploaded it at the first place & I would be glad to make the rectifications if required any.
Thanks & Regards Kuldeep Sarma (Userr: George Sharma)
- The image was deleted as it did not have proper license information. Please see Help:File description page. See also WP:OTRS if you have been given clear permission to use any photo under free license. You need to follow OTRS then. --Titodutta (talk) 21:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
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I want to send you a document on Upanishads to you for your perusal and views. My e mail id is <nvv_char@yahoo.com> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.123.107.170 (talk) 11:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Review Submission
नमस्ते महोदय जी,
Draft:Amit Bhadana (Youtuber) ड्राफ्ट जो कई दिनों से रिव्यू नहीं किया गया है। में चाहता हूं कि आप उसका स्वीकार करें। मैंने लेख में सारे जरूरतमंद सन्दर्भ इस्तेमाल किए हैं, जिनमें दो सन्दर्भ हिंदी समाचार साइट के हैं। में आपको लेख की समीक्षा करने के लिए इसलिए कह रहा हूं, क्योंकि आप अंग्रेजी विकिपीडिया के प्रबंधक हैं और आपको हिंदी का अच्छा ज्ञान हैं और मैंने इसमें दो हिंदी सन्दर्भ इस्तेमाल किया है, जो आप अच्छे से समझ सकते हैं। मैंने लेख को विकिपीडिया पर खरा उतारने की पूरी कोशिश की है कृपया समीक्षा करें। मुझे पता है कि यह आपका काम नहीं है फिर भी में आपसे अनुरोध करता हूं कि समीक्षा करें। अगर लेख में आपको कुछ गलत लगे तो उसमें सुधार दें। आपका आभार। मेरा विकिपीडिया पर नया खाता है। मैंने लेख को बिना खाते के तैयार किया है। Hindu Viki (talk) 14:02, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
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Review Submission Amit Bhadana
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Draft:Amit Bhadana (Youtuber) Draft which has not been reviewed for several days. I want you to accept it. I have used all the needy references in the article, including two references to Hindi news site. I am asking you to review the article, because you are the Administrator of English Wikipedia and you have a good knowledge of Hindi and I have used two Hindi references in it, which you can understand very well. I have tried my best to support the article on Wikipedia, please review. I know this is not your job, yet I request you to review. If you find something wrong in the article, correct it. Thank you I have a new account on Wikipedia. I have prepared the article without taking account. Hindu Viki (talk) 02:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar. Unfair activities going on here. Starting including info box (occupation section)- middle- end. প্রসেনজিৎ পাল (talk) 19:08, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- I am not going to go back to the article, and I won't have time either. You should read WP:RS, and understand about Wikipedia:Primary sources and relevant guidelines. --Titodutta (talk) 19:12, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
At least, do something for the Occupation section. Thanks. প্রসেনজিৎ পাল (talk) 19:15, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- I won't get time to revisit the article. You may continue discussing on the article talk page. --Titodutta (talk) 19:20, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
After a long discussions and many proofs, now it's become easy to add 3 more categories: philosopher, composer and author. You can see the discussions there. And the sources are: 1.https://m.telegraphindia.com/states/jharkhand/homage-to-spiritual-guru/cid/718271 2. https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UR:155649 3. https://asiaportal.info/the-path-of-bliss (see the ninth para in the "Totalism part"). It's my humble request Just see them once and add 3 more Categories: "philosopher"," composer" and "author". Thanks. প্রসেনজিৎ পাল (talk) 16:03, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
No 2 source is working there (categories philosopher and composer for future explanations) Trying again no.2
https://espace.library.uq.edu.au/view/UR:155649 প্রসেনজিৎ পাল (talk) 16:09, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I have just seen your name on wikiproject bangladesh
Can you understand bangla Majun e Baqi (talk) 10:29, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Majun e Baqi, yes. --Titodutta (talk) 10:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
আমহী draft:Laal Kothi Paak Darbaar Sharif উপরের আর্টিকেল বানায়টাসি আপনি কি আমার সাহায্য করবেন Majun e Baqi (talk) 10:39, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I do not understand this. --Titodutta (talk) 19:13, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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Bengali novelist draft
Hi, Titodutta as per information at WP:AFC/RBS, I would like to draw your attention to Draft:Tamal Bandyopadhyay (novelist) which you might be interested to review. Thank you. ~ Amkgp ✉ 07:55, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- I have reviewed the draft. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 10:21, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
- Titodutta, Thanks. I came across another Bangladeshi novelist Draft:Siam Mehraf. You can have a look if interested. Thank you. ~ Amkgp ✉ 12:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Just want to let you know, that the draft has been reviewed. Thank you ~ Amkgp ✉ 15:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
- Titodutta, Thanks. I came across another Bangladeshi novelist Draft:Siam Mehraf. You can have a look if interested. Thank you. ~ Amkgp ✉ 12:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Help on copyright violation issue
Hello, Tito Da, I have found 93% Violation Suspected issue on Sanatana Goswami Wikipage using Earwig's Copyvio Detector. See this. The first edit on this page seems like copy-paste edit and confidently Copyright violation. I think this page should to be Considered for the speedy deletion as per the Unambiguous copyright infringement criteria. What do you think about that? I have also found almost the same issue[1] on Rupa Goswami Wikipage. Both the pages was created by the same user Swamivishnu. If you find something wrong, which I mentioned please inform me. Thank you. বাক্যবাগীশ (talk) 11:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed, you have correctly reverted the edits. It is also too much unsourced content and the tone makes the article more a hagiography than an encyclopedic article Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 03:37, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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