User talk:Thomas.W/Archive 6

DYK for Baggböle Manor

Materialscientist (talk) 01:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Precious

chasing vandals
Thank you, Thomas, proud for a good reason, for spending most of your "time on WP chasing vandals and socks", for fighting vandalism and misconceptions, for precision in language and linguistic, imagine polychoral praise: you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda Arendt. Such praise almost makes me blush, even at my age... Thomas.W ^talk 09:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with blushing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:27, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Good day. I have got your message on the details of posting and I am not spamming. But Interested in adding our travel information website to the world's best encyclopedia. I will be happy if you can help me out getting the things done. Thanks and wishing you a great time. Nbalakrishnan78 (talk) 04:47, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Telangana

You can have a glance at this page once.--Vin09 (talk) 18:03, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

@Vin09: It's a bit unencyclopaedic in tone, like something out of a tourist brochure, but it's not promotion by Wikipedia's standards. Juru sreenivas's editing is clearly disruptive, though, seen as the sum total of his contributions. Thomas.W ^talk 18:23, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

==Vijayawada== An assumptive news [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vijayawada&diff=625674929&oldid=625666687 here], is it correct to add.--Vin09 (talk) 15:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Armed Forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina

I apologize for my interference to your warnings. Actions by deleting the messages. However, I do not want records on my page, therefore I was eager to delete them. I will focus my attentions on now to change information with further proof.

One small request, deletion of your last post on my user page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KalyEV. (talk • contribs)

• @KalyEV.: You can remove it, it's all in the page history of your user talk page anyway, easy to find for whoever needs to know. Thomas.W ^talk 19:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Croatian Army

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatian_Army

WTF are you reverting my edits, read pdf files, or stop ruining articles, alternatively I can contact Wiki owners and have them explain it to you how reference works. revert back to my edits as they're properly referenced with new defence white paper. Man you have some serious issues. http://www.morh.hr/hr/vijesti-najave-i-priopcenja/priopcenja/112-zakoni-i-strategije/savjetovanja/10422-nacrt-prijedloga-dugorocnog-plana-razvoja-oruznih-snaga-rh-2015-2024.html & http://www.morh.hr/images/stories/morh_2014/pdf/savjetovanja/24092014/dpr_osrh_2015-2024_24092014.pdf

Really pisses me off when you go without any idea and mess things up, not sure who the main admin is here but unless you revert my corrections I am reporting you to Wikipedia. If you can't speak Croatian, don't touch articles let Anglo Croatian editors do the edits, and yes I am an Anglo Croat!

To repeat Croatian Army has only 72 active M84 tanks, not 72, defence white paper - read on. all referenced. i mean seriously man you have some serious issues. reporting you to Jimbo Wales, have his emial and sending your details now. you make another stupid edit you can be assured I'll do my best to have you reported and removed as an editor on wikiepdia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.44.209 (talk) 16:13, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a fanblog or personal website, meaning that everything added must be accompanied by proof of being correct. So read Wikipedia's rules about reliable sources, verifiability and burden of proof before trying to lecture anyone, or trying to add more material. And note that it's up to you to provide that reference, not me. Also note that other Wikipedia articles can not be used as references. According to the rules any material that isn't supported by a reliable verifiable in-line citation (reference) can be removed, which is exactly what I did, and will continue to do if you don't provide references. Oh, and by all means feel free to report me to "the main admin", whoever that would be, but don't bother trying to contact "Wikipedia's owners", because I most probably know the rules that apply here on the English language Wikipedia at least as well as they do. Thomas.W ^talk 16:40, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

And what do you call a links that I provided ?? that lead to Croatian MOD page and Croatian Parliamentary committee on Defence, with proposed white paper clearly indicating state of the armed forces and what Croatia intends to purchase, are you blind ????? Links are in my previous reply, and you need to use Google translate plz feel free, as to me being a fan boy, I have a degree in war studies from king's College London, so I can with some degree say I am confident in what I'm saying, are you ?

Also I am correcting mistakes that have been posted on this article, for a starter Croatian Army has only 72-M84A4 tanks, not 84, this is a fact, it is in that defence white paper and Croatian MOD plans to cut that number down to 48, with 16 of these tanks to be modernized to A5 standard or M-84D standard(M-84D isn't military classification, its manufacture's). Anyhow, feel free to read posted links and than revert my edit, I won't bother anymore, have better things to do with my life than talk to a teenager. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.151.44.209 (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

1) The pdf you linked to is not a reference supporting the edits you made, it's a proposal for future changes (a development plan for 2015-2024). I can add that I've checked every one of the 109 pages in that pdf, and there's nothing there that supports your edits (and the first URL you give above only points to the pdf, so the pdf is all you've got). If you claim there is, then tell me the numbers of the pages where you find them, and I'll check again.

2) You can not change the number of vehicles etc, and especially not increase them, without providing reliable sources for your changes. Every one of them. Period.

So follow the links I gave you above, and read what it says there, before making any more edits, or you'll get warned again, and risk getting blocked. Thomas.W ^talk 19:29, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

ThomasW is right about Wikipedia's rules and sourcing.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Armenian Army

Hi, I made some edits (Like the idiot I am) to the BMP-2 section on the Armenian army page. I edited the number, because the source that was provide, source 22, a PDF file, it can be clearly seen that either a purchase for 50 BMP-2 units once in 2012, and once in 2013, were made or there was a modernization/repair of 100 BMP-2s in the same time frame. Its a bit foggy, but I'm sure the number is over 55. I was just trying to clear that up. What were the exact reasons to keep it at 50?

I also wanted to make some clarifications with Armenian T72s, as I thought it would be important to inform readers that most of Armenia's T72 fleet is stationed in Nagorno Karabakh Republic, and that there is much more than 100 T72s in service with the Armenian Armed Forces. If you think its unnecessary, than it should be left alone.

If you can do some clarification and we can perhaps discuss some of the numbers that would be great. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melting Pot of Friendship (talk • contribs) 06:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

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Sonali Raut

Your reversion here removed reliable sources, including Hindustan Times and India Today, from an article that is up for deletion. Care to explain what you are doing here?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:57, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

• @Tomwsulcer: I'm reverting a block evading troll. The material that the troll re-added and I removed again was in part sourced to a gossip blog that isn't WP:RS, while the rest of it was fancruft (no-one but the most diehard fans would be interested in reading what every newspaper in India said about that person being evicted from Bigg Boss 8, and this is, after all, an encyclopaedia and not a fanblog...). And it doesn't matter how reliable the sources are, because fancruft is still just fancruft, no matter how well it is sourced. As for being an article at AfD, being evicted from Bigg Boss 8 hardly establishes any notability. Thomas.W ^talk 16:28, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Dra åt Hälsingland!

Re [1]: Perhaps Darwinbish should change her username to User:Hälsingland i en hink, what do you think? Nice ring to it. Bishonen | talk 13:31, 28 September 2014 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Or User:Helsingborg i en spann. I sometimes get the impression that some users here on WP love being in a fight so much that they deliberately start fights over nothing, just to have a fight to be in. Thomas.W ^talk 18:01, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Lamborghini Aventador

dear @Thomas.W don't undo my edits at aventador at veneno section. I was making a new article for veneno because it is an independent car and is not realated to aventador. please cooperate — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.231.218.77 (talk) 13:09, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

• Then create the new article first, and then use the edit summary to tell others what your intentions are. Don't just delete a large part of an article without explanation. Thomas.W ^talk 13:12, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

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Telugu people

Mr.Thomas I appreciate your efforts of being authentic on wiki pages. Talking about Telugu speakers, only in India there are approximately 90 million Telugu speakers. Well sorry for not posting references at that time. check this out: reference(1) FYI India's population is 1.252 billion. reference(2) How can people speaking official language be too less when compared to total population???, I request you to edit the section which was reverted and post authenticated figures. Thanks for your efforts on aunthenticity Alurujaya (talk) 18:28, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

@Alurujaya: Hello. What you're suggesting is called "original research" and "synthesis of published sources" and is not allowed. We have to go by published reliable sources when changing things, and for India the latest published figures are in the Indian census of 2011. Figures that from what I can see aren't currently in the article, so feel free to add what the 2011 census says, but you must go exactly by what the sources say. And you have to add an inline citation when doing so. Thomas.W ^talk 18:50, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

List of association football stadiums by capacity

Dear Mr. Thomas, I see your changes by the Azadi-Stadium and your message. The Azadi-Stadium is an all-seater football stadium with a current capacity of 95,225 - 100,000 (including buffer blocks). The capacity of 84,000 is not the correct number. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sa97 (talk • contribs) 09:50, 5 October 2014 (UTC) Although the Signal Iduna Park or Westfalenstadion of Borussia Dortmund has a capacity of 65,590 seats, the list shows us a capacity of 81,264 (including 25,000 standing).

Special Edition (Pagani Huayra)

ok I get it, I hav removed their instagram and twitter account but I am not promoting someone nor they told me. please don't remove my new edits. I have proof (reference) that the special edition car exsist. 37.231.218.77 (talk) 16:20, 6 October 2014 (UTC)Imran

Case

What steps should I take, as this is open since long while. Sock puppet.--Vin09 (talk) 09:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

@Vin09: They're both stale, not having edited for three weeks, so the report has low priority at SPI. Just let the SPI take whatever time it takes, unless they start adding links again. If they do, ping me. Thomas.W ^talk 09:59, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Is this genuine

See this. Some one asking email id?--Vin09 (talk) 10:02, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

@Vin09: Seems you're the only one they're asking, but if I were you I would not give them your email. What you can do is add an email address, and enable email, in your preferences. It will allow people to send you email, without telling them what your email address is. But be careful when replying, because if you reply to the email you get you will reveal your email address to them. Which is why most people who enable email here create a special email address, at Gmail, Outlook, Yahoo or whatever, that they use only for Wikipedia mail. Thomas.W ^talk 10:09, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

iPhone 6 page

Hi, I was just adding a reference link for the iPhone6 and 6 Plus launch in India. I was NOT spamming. So stop erasing my content from the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deep2701 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

@Deep2701: What you're doing is refspamming. So stop. Thomas.W ^talk 14:00, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Why delete an edit?

Why did you delete an edit to the List of Boeing CH-47 Chinook operators article? I added the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force to the list of operators. It's mentioned in the Helicopters section of the List of aircraft of the Iranian Air Force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_of_the_Iranian_Air_Force article. It's also mentioned as being in service with the IRIAF, on other websites. The Iran section of the Boeing CH-47 Chinook article also mentions that CH-47C Chinooks were supplied to the former Imperial Iranian Air Force, not just the army. Dreddmoto (talk) 11:57, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

@Dreddmoto: The source in the article clearly states that all CH-47s in Iran are now operated by the Army, not the Air Force, which is what matters, not who they were originally delivered to. And other articles on Wikipedia can not be used as references. Thomas.W ^talk 12:01, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. It is informative. Dreddmoto (talk) 12:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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FlipKart

Hi , all contents added to Flipkart is credible and from major news sources from India like NDTV and Firstpost. Please donot come to conclusion before discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mail2nith (talk • contribs)

Part of it wasn't sourced at all, and all of it was full of language errors, so there were many reasons for reverting it. Thomas.W ^talk 18:20, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

I have added references from authentic sources like Business Insider now. Please enhance the article if possible. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mail2nith (talk • contribs) 02:24, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

the same with me, what was wrong in my edit to flipkart? user:weedo_vivek

@Weedo vivek: Your edit ([2]) was reverted for being totally unsourced (see Wikipedia's rules regarding verifiability and reliable sources) and written in a promotional unencyclopaedic tone. Thomas.W ^talk 09:33, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

bro i am very ,much new to this wikipedia edit, if u r free can u walk through what i was wrong about? thanks in advance. user:Thomas.w

I've given Weedo some "worked examples" on my own talk page: Noyster (talk), 13:08, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Honda Civic page edits

Here, User: Thomas.W, go through the last several hundred edits and tell me they are not literate, constructive, and concise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.192.186.6.

The idea that any group is going to get categorically scrapped by some flippant revert is absurd. If the dissenting editor has a problem with any individual edit they may suggest a change and *they* can get consensus to revert. Otherwise it's pure Alice in Wonderland. Yours, 71.192.186.6 (talk) 20:55, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

I have taken a quick look at your edits, and see no problems with any of the edits that I have looked at. But I'm not the one you should discuss it with since I'm not the one who initially reverted you. Discuss it with Lukeno94 instead, and point him to your other contributions. And since you're a regular contributor, and from what I can see a net positive, you ought to create a named user account, so that people can recognise you, because even though most people here try not to judge people differently, the huge number of vandalism edits made by IPs occasionally make people click revert in cases where they perhaps shouldn't. Thomas.W ^talk 21:06, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for taking the time to review some of my edits and satisfy yourself they are legitimate contributions to Wikipedia and by no means vandalism. Nor do they deserve categoric reversion as in the case at the Honda Civic page. As I indicated, if user Lukeno94 were reasonable - and he has repeatedly demonstrated that he is not - he would have assessed the edits, determined which if any he had a difference of opinion over, and made constructive changes reflecting his preferences. Instead, all he did was a mass revert then stonewall behind a completely unsupportable but evidently Wikipedia accepted defense of "I don't like 'em (and since I reverted 'em you can't get 'em back without overcoming a preposterous hurdle (given the trifling issue at hand) of going to Talk and trying to lobby for a consensus among a magically appearing herd of cats, if and when they do ever appear)."

I have a life, and simply cannot devote that sort of time and effort to something so trivial, regardless that there is merit to the edits and everything about how their reversion was handled is wrong. Is it any wonder why good folks and thoughtful contributors - in the instance one with editorial experience spanning six decades - simply walk away. Who in their right mind would put up with the bullying? Yours, 71.192.186.6 (talk) 16:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

• Hang on, who are you really, if you're saying that I "repeatedly demonstrated" that I am not reasonable? I was staying out of the drama, and in case you didn't notice, there was only one revert from me; afterwards, I left it alone. Please read WP:NPA, I have no interest in getting into drama, and nor did I ever even remotely indicate anything that you said. I said that I did not believe that you had improved things generally, and, in fact, had made some objectively worse changes in my opinion. For example, the total removal of the information about it being the best selling car in California without discussion is something questionable; in my opinion, the change to from "After a period of developing idiosyncratic automobiles such as the Honda 1300 that met a lukewarm response in Japan" to "After a period of developing idiosyncratic automobiles such as the lukewarmly received domestic Honda 1300" is also objectively worse. I have nothing further to say on this matter, unless you make another unreasonable comment. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 20:45, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit on the page of "Slide Guitar"

Hello Thomas,

Hope you are doing well!

I would like to add the name of "Prakash Sontakke" as one of the renowned slide guitarists. He has given about 2000 concerts all over the world till date and his name features in the national dailies. I would like to take your help in this. I can provide the links of the dailies once you advise me on what I would need to do in order to add Prakash Sontakke's name to the page.

Thanks, Srinivasratnakar (talk) 17:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

@Srinivasratnakar: Hello. We do not add people unless they're notable by Wikipedia's standards, and we do not add links to external websites that promote an individual or a company. If you feel he is notable by our standards you can create an article about him, but make sure he really is notable by our standards first (see WP:MUSICBIO; and having given 2,000 concerts is no proof of notability, only of perseverance), or your attempted article will be deleted. Thomas.W ^talk 17:55, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

His name is already present in Wikipedia. Please check the following Wikipedia site:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_(band)

It has his name but there is no page. That is the reason why I am trying to add his name. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinivasratnakar (talk • contribs) 19:01, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Having occasionally played as an extra in a marginally notable band doesn't make anyone notable. Thomas.W ^talk 19:07, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad

Please see this diff [3]

Furthermore,

A) All my edits have clear and lucid edit summaries.

B) I am not in any kind of edit war with anybody (except mindless monkeys with automated WMFlab tools).

I also assume Good Faith on your part and am reverting you. If you feel it violates WP:3RR please take this anywhere you want to, as it may WP:BOOMERANG. 190.184.144.86 (talk) 12:31, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

FYI, Good Faith is often not enough but must be accompanied by COMPETENCE WP:CIR. Now because you have advised me about 3RR, I am asking you to self revert your re-insertion of a) Dead links b) Original research c) Self Published Sourcs, in the face of my earlier talk, or else I will haul your ass to a notice board. 190.184.144.86 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:50, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

One of the things I've learnt during my several years here on WP is that IPs who demand that others assume good faith, threaten to report other editors to administrators, and use shortcuts like WP:CIR and WP:BOOMERANG almost always have something to hide. So let's see what you're hiding, or at least part of it, because my gut feeling tells me there's a lot more.

Your claim is that the material you repeatedly (#1, #2, #3, #4) have removed is WP:OR, WP:SYNTH, sourced to a dead link and self-sourced, and therefore must be removed. But when I checked it, I found that the first part of the material is sourced to very reliable sources (indianexpress.com, business-standard.com and thehindubusinessline.com) and is neither OR nor synth, apart from the first part of the sentence, "It is consistently ranked" which ought to be changed to something like "In 2011-2012 it was ranked", but that little piece of puffery is most definitely not an excuse for removing the entire paragraph, with sources and all. As for the second part of the material that you have repeatedly removed the reference to beta-iima.com, which is now dead, should be removed, but it is still sourced to The Times of India, which is a very reliable source. It might need some rephrasing to make it less promotional, but as with the rest of the material, there's no valid reason for you to remove all of it without prior discussion on the talk page of the article.

So no, I'm not going to self-revert. You are of course free to report me to whatever noticeboard you want, but don't forget to read WP:BOOMERANG first. Also read WP:NPA, because referring to editors who revert you as "mindless monkeys" is not kosher. Thomas.W ^talk 14:22, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Also pinging NQ, who might like to read this. 14:24, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Came across this just now. No ping whatsoever. Anyway, Sorry I messed up. By the time I took a second look at the article, you had already reverted the IP. Thanks for taking care of it.  NQ  talk 17:57, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

• @Primefac: It wasn't me who added the template but the editor below, who has already posted on the talk page of the user he wants to communicate with, i.e. me. But thanks for the info anyway. Thomas.W ^talk 20:29, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Tom, I am a student at the institute currently and have been meaning to change this Wikipedia page for many days to make sure it reflects the correct information on academics and events hosted by the school. Please help me with what I could do to make sure the information therein is correct and accurate. Right now it seems like a mishmash of content some relevant and some not so. I did read up your reference on conflict of interest and while I understand that this could be viewed as a conflict of interest - I honestly would like for the page to show the correct information as well so that the Wiki could be useful to other students such as me. Would adding more citations that are not from the school help? Please do let me know.

Iima.pgpx.mba (talk) 16:39, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Help!! @List of YouTube Personalities

Hello @Thomas.W i need help. I added about a youtube personality (Roman Atwood) and I have seem to mix two personalities column togther. Can u fix the issue please?!? Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_YouTube_personalities#R Immu 01 (talk) 13:22, 14 October 2014 (UTC)immu01

List of cities in Serbia

Great revert. I haven't revert IP edits two times (I'm not admin to do multiple at once), I've forgot. I see you've sorted out the problem later. Thanks.--AirWolf ^talk 14:01, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Ayurveda

Hi. As someone who has edited this article recently, I am bringing your attention to a proposed set of restrictions at Talk:Ayurveda#Going forward. I see this action as necessary to allow harmonious editing at the article, and to prevent more blocks going forward. Best regards, --John (talk) 20:42, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

User: Ahmedzaibaloch1121

This user keep vandalising the articles such as Madai and Medes with ip. Can you please look? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.216.129.46 (talk) 21:15, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Ok. He has stopped now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.216.129.46 (talk) 21:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

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Sniper kill

Didn't realize. Sorry for the trouble. Sf46 (talk) 00:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Template in Russian

Template:Welcomeen-ru. There are a whole set for different languages. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:58, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

@Yngvadottir: Thanks. I knew there was one, but not where it was, so you saved me from having to go looking for it. Thomas.W ^talk 20:01, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Childish Vial threats

I have removed your childish vial threats. Looking at your history and block log you are one of the last people that should be giving "advice", let alone your passive aggressive threats. Resaltador (talk) 14:32, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

• "Childish"? Sheesh. Thomas.W ^talk 14:43, 27 October 2014 (UTC) (Hmmmh, both the battle mentality and the fondness for taking part in deletion discussions looks familiar...)

Qizilbash

Qizilbash and Alevis have nearly the same beliefs and they are considered as heterodox Shia sects. Sultan Selim persecuted Alevis/Qizilbash in the military campaign leading to Battle of Chaldiran. After his defeat in battle of Chaldiran, Shah Ismail I of Iran switched from Qizilbash/Alevi beliefs to Shia Ithna Ashari sect. That is why Iran is Shia Muslim country. Delljvc (talk) 18:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

@Delljvc: You were reverted because your edit was unsourced. "Shia" and "Alevi" are not synonymous, so if the source says Shia you can't change it to Alevi without a new reliable source that explicitly supports your edit. And while I have your attention: stop making POV edits claiming that the Ahmadiyya aren't Muslims, as you've done several times now, and in more than article. This is Wikipedia, an international encyclopaedia, we report what multiple reliable sources say, not what some people in Pakistan say. Thomas.W ^talk 19:20, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

You have reverted Pakistani Canadian page without looking at all the edits. There are other referenced edits not related to Ahmadis. Ahmadis are mentioned in that page.Delljvc (talk) 19:36, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

@Delljvc: Oh I have looked at the entire edit, as I always do, as a lump sum of what you did. This is what I reverted, and as anyone can see there was a lot more than just the Ahmadiyya stuff to revert there, including just about everything from original research (how would English being an official language in Pakistan be of any help if only a very tiny minority in Pakistan actually know the language?) to unsourced inflation of numbers (increasing the number of Pakistani Canadians by ~50% without providing any form of source for it). Just to give a couple of examples. So stop what you're doing. Thomas.W ^talk 19:55, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh

Please make some clarification in the last section about new capital on Andhra Pradesh page.--Vin09 (talk) 16:11, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Notability

I undid your changes on notable alumni at Southeastern Oklahoma STate university based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Lists_of_people. I cannot find a requirement that one must have a wikipedia article to be notable, and the entry has links that seem, at least to my mind, to establish notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.45.132.36 (talk) 16:33, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

And I've reverted you again, with the reason given at Talk:Southeastern Oklahoma State University#Alumni. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not Linked In or whatever. If you want Chuck Easttom included in the list you'll have to wait until there's an article about him here on Wikipedia (which could be a long wait considering that an article by that name has been deleted a number of times, first through AfD and after that through speedy deletion). Thomas.W ^talk 16:42, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Armeena Khan

Tom, I seem to be on the receiving end of being schooled in wikipedia do's and dont's from yourself, Ponyo (who is being a right tw^* about the whole thing) and Cyphoidbomb ( who seems to have all sorts of explosive superwiki abilities on here to ban, banish and destroy). I am relatively inexperienced in wikipedia editing. Last time I used Harvard referencing was 15 years ago at Uni.

I chose something inane and non contentious (or so I thought) to start editing. I am not her publicist, manager or Agent or anything like that. Just a fan on her Facebook page. So now that I have gotten over myself about you guys S***w*ng around with my editing, I can see most of your points are valid (not all). What do you advise? Do I ditch the whole article and begin afresh? Or just start referencing from hereon in? However I don't want to do the work and then you all decide to delete the page on notability grounds. The last thing you found the time to undo was "Yalghaar". This is where I found out about her involvement in this film. Which one should I use?

http://www.dawn.com/news/1125718 http://galaxylollywood.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/yalgaar-to-bring-swat-operation-in-light/

Secondly you have deleted the bulk of info off of her main article that I was working on. Can I suggest you leave the stub alone and I will add to as I go along in between my day job.

Regards Merlinsage10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlinsage10 (talk • contribs) 11:35, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Opinion

You can have your opinion at Talk:Andhra_Pradesh#Capital_of_Andhra_Pradesh_.3F, as you are also involved in the discussion earlier, so you may have good idea on the topic. Thanks.--Vin09 (talk) 16:05, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Indian Railway Catering and Tourism Corporation Mobile Application

Hello I had just add more information in Indian Railway Catering and Tourism Corporation the purposes of adding this information is to increase knowledge about Indian Railway system. Being an Indian its my duty to add the information , if have problem with links I am ok with it You can remove the link. But please removing a relevant information is not justified — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashish2470 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

@Ashish2470: It's a spamlink (refspamming to be precise), with links to a site that you've also added to multiple other articles today, so yes it's spamming. And continuing the spamming could lead to both you being blocked and visualboom.net being blacklisted on all Wikimedia sites. Thomas.W ^talk 20:10, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

@Thomas.W: So can I edit the article after removal of links leaving information only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashish2470 (talk • contribs) 20:12, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Only if you have a reliable non-spammy source for it. Thomas.W ^talk 20:34, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Long-time disruptive editor User:Alexyflemming resorts to trolling. Thank you. 213.7.147.34 (talk) 01:39, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Regarding accusation of disruptive editing

Hello, Why do you think my edits are disruptive? The only official language of bengaluru and belagavi is Kannada. I had made edits regarding the same. Other people will tell you many things but the fact is the one I have stated above. Many languages are spoken in bengaluru, Kannada being the local language and there are quite a few no. of people speaking marathi and konkani apart from Kannada in belagavi. But the language used for official purposes by the municipal corporation of both the cities is Kannada only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somas123 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

@Somas123: There's a discussion going on at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#RFC_on_recent_renaming_of_11_Indian_cities..._use_old_or_new_names.3F. Wikipedia does not automatically change things just because there's been an official decision somewhere, so we'll wait for the outcome of that discussion. As for the languages spoken in Belgaum/Bangalore (the titles of those articles here on Wikipedia), you changed the infobox from "languages spoken" to "official language", thereby getting an excuse for removing other languages than Kannada, which IMHO is a POV edit, considering that Marathi AFAIK is the majority language in Belgaum, and English is very widely spoken in Bangalore, because of the multitude of different languages spoken there. No-one claimed that other languages than Kannada were official in those locations, only that other languages were widely spoken, a fact that you seem to want to hide. Thomas.W ^talk 16:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

I would like to clarify that marathi is not the majority language in Belagavi. And as far as english is concerned so is the case in other big cities in India. English is widely used for communication but very few people consider it their mother tongue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somas123 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Brightify EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 23:08, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a job?

Hi Tom, question in the subject is self explanatory. You clearly have way too much spare time on your hands - I would like to advise you to seek employment, or in the case that you do have a job - seek one that has a lot more meaning and worth to the one you do have. Regards, Barry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.71.47.131 (talk • contribs)

• I'm retired. What about you? Do you have a decent honest job or do you spam Wikipedia for a living? Thomas.W ^talk 08:27, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) I've blocked the IP for the attack above. Passive-aggressive sneers hurt the project ambience worse than four-letter words IMO. Bishonen | talk 00:58, 13 November 2014 (UTC).

Akrotiri and Dhekelia

Please can we discuss the issue of Cyprus' EEZ rather than you repeatedly removing my edits - Kind regards George Lees 17 November 18:00

@GeorgeLees1975: No, there's nothing to discuss, not for the time being at least. FYI a block is a block of the person doing the editing, not just a specific user account, so any new account that person creates can be blocked as soon as a connection has been established. Thomas.W ^talk 18:05, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Thomas. Thank you for your help and advice during the latest sock appearance. It is really appreciated. Take care. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 23:53, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

I'd just like to drop you a message and say thank you for reverting the vandalism to my user page by someone who stole one of my alaises and used it to vandalise Wikipedia. Please, if anyone else comes in under one of my aliases please let me know. Thanks again.--Jacoblikesmetal (talk) 13:06, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

t-80y http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:T-80#T-80U_armoring

see. there is a new (different) it should you will like. but he says a lot. although is no detected refutations. 89.105.158.243 (talk) 18:22, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Security News Desk

Discussion moved to User talk:NeilN#Security News Desk. Thomas.W ^talk 13:00, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Unnecessary addition of external image

Hello! I just want to raise the issue of unnecessary addition of an external image in Sophie Hunter's page. She's not a model whose appearance is pivotal to her profile nor is the external image notable in her body work. Other pages don't have photos in their infoboxes either and they still exist and work as a page even without an external image. The external image currently on the page is also not solely of Hunter's appearance as she is with somebody else in the photo, it's also not recent. This is not at all a very good representation or even rational to have an external image in the page. It's completely unnecessary. I hope you can amend this problem. Thank you! 199.85.237.120 (talk) 14:41, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

RfA nom

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Just for the record, I've transcluded your RfA per your request by email. Best of luck, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:36, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Harry. Thomas.W ^talk 15:54, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

iraqi armed forces

Dear Thomas The information you are using in the "iraq armed forces" page is wrong , you have used wrong data in the sources you have used. The iraqi armed forces budget isn't 59 billion dollars, but 6.055 billion, and as well the active forces in the iraqi armed forces is 271.500 and not 500.001. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babylons lion (talk • contribs)

@Babylons lion: I'll check the reference. You were reverted because you just changed the numbers, with no explanation for the changes in your edit summary. Thomas.W ^talk 13:35, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Miss Puerto Rico

Miss Mundo de Puerto Rico has license of miss grand puerto Rico

source http://nickverrreos.blogspot.com/2014/08/sashes-and-tiarasmiss-mundo-de-puerto.html

Do you hate Miss Grand International ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conanzahaha (talk • contribs)

@Conanzahaha: No, I just follow Wikipedia's rules. And this isn't just about Miss Puerto Rico, it's about your attempts to create notability for Miss Grand International here on en-WP, including splicing unsourced and/or improperly sourced material about Miss Grand International on to a considerable number of articles with no sourced connection to MGI, to make MGI seem like a bigger thing than it apparently is. While you posted this message here I posted a message on your talk page. Read it, and follow the links to the relevant Wikipedia rules and guidelines that are in my message, particularly WP:RS, where you can see that the link you added here, to a blog on Blogspot, cannot be used as a reference. Thomas.W ^talk 11:22, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

@Thomas.W: OK. I'll not create or edit page of Miss Grand International — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conanzahaha (talk • contribs)

UB40 page website change due to hacking

Hi Thomas. The source is referenced. It is a message coming the official UB40 facebook page. I also run the official website forum- the one that has been hacked. Can you please reverse your reversal? If not tell me what I need to show in reference to prove this is true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reggae reggae source (talk • contribs) 19:13, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Someone else has already reverted it, so I'll just leave it. Add the reference to the article, just after the link to the official web site, so that it's easily verifiable; for instructions see WP:Citing sources. Thomas.W ^talk 19:21, 4 June 2015 (UTC).

Typhoon RCS

Thomas, I have removed the ORish RCS calculation based on range from the edit notes but left the supporting sources so that people can review them for themselves, that way any OR is in the hands of the reader. I have also added a clarification on composite percentages saying that it isn't the only factor in RCS. Note, I only intend these sources as supporting information, not outright verification, which is why I've left the 'verification needed' tag. Please discuss on article talk page if you have any remaining issue with the edits.Z07x10 (talk) 12:02, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Jaguar XJS

Thomas, You recently requested a citation on my recent edits on the Jaguar XJS 4 Wheel drive concept vehicles. I cannot provide a independent citation other than the fact I was the engineer at Jaguar involved with the project. I was also the engineer who turned the V12 concept vehicle to front wheel drive.

Regards

Howard Marshall — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aitchmarsh (talk • contribs) 14:31, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

• @Aitchmarsh: I believe you, but that doesn't help since Wikipedia requires everything to be sourced to reliable verifiable secondary sources, own knowledge is classified as original research since it isn't verifiable. Sorry. Thomas.W ^talk 15:08, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

There is a discussion that you may (or may not!) be interested in joining

Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Eurofighter Typhoon 2 regards Mztourist (talk) 04:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

User talk:94.245.53.33

Any update on whether this is User:David Hedlund and what to do about it? Their most recent edits to entheogen seem a bit odd. Viriditas (talk) 08:30, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: It is David Hedlund, no doubt about it. Both the IP's interests here, their editing style and their geolocation is a 100% match. I filed an SPI on 1 May but it was closed a couple of weeks later, without even being looked at by an admin, because my views on what was needed to see/hear the quacking and the clerk's views on it differed. Which is why I haven't done anything about it since. But there's absolutely no doubt about it being David Hedlund. Thomas.W ^talk 09:44, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Women in Bangladesh Army

my article Women in Bangladesh Army has been deleted. i have a made a draft . you may see Draft: Women in Bangladesh Army .Yasmin542 (talk) 15:17, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it. Thomas.W ^talk 15:21, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Lewisn-y13

Hi User:Thomas.W, I notice that you picked up on my unproductive edit, and I wish now to profusely apologise. I assume that you will be familiar with Apple's Siri™, which can perform numerous actions, including one in particular which I am very fond of; it can list the main ingredients in a Caesar Salad, the information for which, it sources from Wikipedia. I wished to gauge whether editing the article would affect Siri's response, which, incidentally, it did not. I am very sorry and hope to ensure that it never, in the further foreseeable future, happens again. Thank You, User:lewisn-y13— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lewisn-y13 (talk • contribs)

I hope you don't do it again, because it was a very immature edit. Thomas.W ^talk 14:47, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

KhyberPakhtun khwa

hi, Mr. Thomas first see the languages of khyberpakhtunkhwa and then talk with me... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.83.86.138 (talk • contribs)

ANI

This isn't a content dispute. It's stonewalling via IDHT and deliberate misrepresentation of my statements. It's a behavioral issue. Captain JT Verity MBA (talk) 21:23, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

• @Captain JT Verity MBA: Everyone there seems to disagree with you. Editwarring on WP:ANI usually leads to a quick block, BTW... Thomas.W ^talk 21:55, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

WP:ANI

It is wise not to close a complaint at ANI in which you are a major participant (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#IP's six - month block for removing vandalism). It also looks like this case was closed prematurely because you kept adding new information to it after you had already archived it. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 14:51, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

@Liz: It was closed because the OP got blocked as a sock of the IP the complaint was about and the matter was totally misrepresented. The complaint was thus totally without merit, and having others enter the discussion would just be a waste of time and energy. If any admonishment of a fellow editor is needed, especially when it's an editor who has been around far longer than you, I suggest you leave that to the administrators who are active on WP:ANI, who so far obviously haven't found any fault with my close, not even after needing to move {{archivebottom}} down a couple of notches as new socks arrived. Thomas.W ^talk 15:04, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi there.

Your revision of my edits of Mir Mughal and Islam in Kashmir do not help in making these articles better. My edits on Mir Mughal are in accordance to the reference and infact i had included better information on the topic. Also the information included in Islam in Kashmir "Shias live in the district of Badgam , with a majority population, and has been peaceful and has resisted separatism..." has nothing to do with spread of islam in Kashmir or the divisions of muslims in Kashmir. This kind of Information belongs to the page Kashmir Conflict. Just by giving references to some material and including it in a page does not automatically mean it is constructive. Akcent12 (talk) 13:23, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

In what way does "Shias live in the district of Badgam, with a majority population" belong in Kashmir Conflict? What I see is an edit in line with many other edits by a number of IPs and throw-away accounts attempting to remove all mention of Shias in our articles about Kashmir, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Gilgit-Baltistan and other areas/regions in that part of the world, all of them doing similar things. As for Mir Mughal you removed lots of information, with no edit summary or other explanation at all. Thomas.W ^talk 13:57, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

you quoted half of it, what about "...and has been peaceful and has resisted separatism"? The same user has also put this information in the page Jammu & Kashmir. I have no problem with mention of shias in any of the articles and i have never edited anything related to Khyer Pakhtunkhwa or gilgit-baltitan. But this piece has been included only for making a political statement. I could bring in several counter claims to this and post them in this article. What then? This statement shows one of the parties of Kashmir Conflict and their stand on it, and if at all this has to be included then it belongs to the page Kashmir Conflict. Infact the information provided in the page Islam in Kashmir is not even related to the topic. This page deals with demographics that have already been provided in Kashmir page.Akcent12 (talk) 16:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

You accusation

I say twice now why I delete,[4][5] why give warning? 82.11.33.86 (talk) 14:54, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Because your reason for removing it isn't valid. The lede is just a summary of material further down in the article, so having a short mention in the lede and more material further down is not duplication, it's supposed to be that way. When removing the material you also removed all sources for it, which makes your repeated removal even more wrong. Thomas.W ^talk 14:56, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Balochistan, Pakistan

All I do is add info on human rights atrocities, thee is consensus for this. I also add info on poverty, all keeps being deleted. So what can I do? I am not being nationalist, I am just adding the info? Please advice on how to edit please. The last Watch (talk) 16:49, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

There is no doubt much nationalist feeling and POV being deplayed at Balochistan, but I must protest being called part of that as I am one of those feedback request service editors (see here. I confess to never having set foot in the province) and was hoping my edit here and here would serve as a compromise - keeping mention of the insurgency concise and properly sourced. --BoogaLouie (talk) 23:03, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

My initial suggestion was here (see compromise) ---BoogaLouie (talk) 23:15, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Demographics of Pakistan

I appreciate your reverts but i have a question in my mind that is, delhi sultanate was exclusively turkic in origin as you can check each and every delhi sultanate sultan. Also there was no Afghanistan but khorasan. Thankyou if you think my edits are fine you can revert it back else you are a senior member. Thankyou — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saladin1987 (talk • contribs)

Other Wikipedia articles can not be used as references. Thomas.W ^talk 09:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Last Watch Man socks

Here is your friends original ip address before he made his proper account [6] now he comes along with his sock ip [7] edits the same article with no other edits from the same place same country. You need to block him if your an admin or file a sock investigation as I dont know how to do it. 86.164.38.93 (talk) 10:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Let's put an SPI-report on hold for a day or two. I have already seen the edit but I'm not as quick to point fingers at anyone as you are, instead I have asked a checkuser to take a look at both that edit and a previous edit by another IP, to rule out any chances of it being a "joe job", that is an attempt by his opponents in the discussion to frame him/set him up. In the meantime I have reverted the edit the IP made today. Thomas.W ^talk 10:29, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I with virgin, that IP with Bt. Also 86.164.38.93 is sock, he blocked for attacks.[8] The last Watch (talk) 11:33, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I know, it's all being looked at. But since people here live in different parts of the world, and in different time zones, it usually takes a bit of time before a thorough check can be made. Thomas.W ^talk 11:35, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

That ip 31... is obviously your new ip sock your pov will never be tolerated whether your new supporter Thomas trys to push your pov or not or trys to defend you. 86.164.38.93 (talk) 11:38, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I'm totally impartial, and would even defend you if I suspected that someone was trying to frame you... Thomas.W ^talk 11:45, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Get over yourself nobody is framing the nationalist hes obviously got someone to either edit on behalf of him or knows how to hop around ips its very easy to do your new friend is not an angel as you are so desperately trying to portray my views do not matter anyway there are plenty of editors who will swiftly remove any Indian vandalism from that article you dont need to worry about me the big boys will get around to dealing with this pov trash eventually blocking me wont affect the outcome. 86.164.38.93 (talk) 11:49, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I still on same IP [9] The last Watch (talk) 11:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

• Cool down a bit, both of you. Thomas.W ^talk 11:45, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The 31 ip was me, and I did that edit in calne so dunno why it says Swindon, btw the 86 ip is Nangparbat, who is community banned 82.132.216.222 (talk) 12:15, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

• Calne is a small town, too small to have a network operation center, while Swindon is more than ten times as large and only ~15 miles away, so it's logical if the NOC for Calne is in Swindon. As for the 86.* IPs being Nangparbat I'll leave to others to check that, but the IP range used seem to me to be reason enough to make a thorough check. Thomas.W ^talk 13:15, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

100% convinced this is a sock not sure of who now a bit confused maybe Darknesshines who was blocked again recently ? this is probably his attempt to sound all Indian etc or maybe its Occultzone but my strongest suspicion is Last Watch Man or Darknesshines. 86.164.38.93 (talk) 12:42, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Last Sock man

See I told you he was a pov pushing sock can you atleast apologize for appeasing a sock vandal? and blaming me? 86.164.38.93 (talk) 20:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

From what I can see you're a POV-pushing sock too, a block evader, so there's nothing to apologize for. Thomas.W ^talk 20:15, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Why not just avoid socks then Tommy? why choose Darknessshines I feel hurt furthermore I AM NOT A SOCK! 86.164.38.93 (talk) 20:20, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm not Tommy to you, or anyone else for that matter, and you are, per WP:DUCK, a sock of the editor who was blocked for a week as IP 86.164.37.238 yesterday. Thomas.W ^talk 20:32, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Tommy are you missing your duck/sock friend that much? I apologize I got carried away please accept my apology I will keep away from you and that article have a good day. 86.164.38.93 (talk) 21:29, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

• Feel free to host sock comments on your user page but it is clear that this sock was hounding TripWire and is still going on with the accusations. Any editor can revert a sock's comment. Your revert had no standing in WP:TPG. If human wants the comments for record keeping, he can revert himself. --lTopGunl (talk) 12:39, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

• @TopGun: Point me to where in the rules it says that any editor is free to remove comments from suspected socks anywhere, including on the talk pages of other editors. That IP has not been confirmed as a sock of anyone, and you suspecting that they are, because you disagree with their edits, isn't enough. Thomas.W ^talk 13:42, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

The IP is a WP:DUCK sock of DS and any edit by a sock is removable. For SPI, it is only a matter of time and Wikipedia:NOTBUREAUCRACY, neither are the comments of any benefit to the project. I'll leave it at that. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:47, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Until confirmed at SPI or blocked by an administrator per WP:DUCK that IP is only a suspected sock, and the only edits you can remove are edits that are clear vandalism or clear violations of other rules, not other edits. Thomas.W ^talk 14:01, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Balochistan province kerfluffle

Hello Thomas,
Any advice on the correct/proper/best way to proceed on adding information to the article? Cyphoidbomb has notified some wikiprojects. Should we Wait for the RfC to close? Request formal mediation? Thanks in advance for any suggestions --BoogaLouie (talk) 16:54, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Sock puppet investigation

If you are a true nuetral admin then I request you to also initiate sock puppet investigation user Human3015 and Rsrikanth see here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kashmir_conflict&action=history they edit togather to avoid three edit rule. they have done two times on kashmir confict and i am sure they must have done at other pages too. Similarly see offwiki collaboration, unintentional or otherwise keeping in view https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Human3015#Those_users ; after reading that plus all indo pak & kashmir relevant Wiki articles edit history; Apparently Kautilya3 Human3015 and CosmicEmperor are doing so and are providing each other back up to avoid 3 revert rule of edit warring. I want justice for all including me. 39.47.184.157 (talk) 18:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

• In other words collaborating in the exact same way as pro-Pakistani editors do. But I'm not going to start an SPI for you, ask one of your friends here to do that for you. And I want to point out that I'm not an admin, "only" a very experienced editor who has been fighting POV-pushing for years on articles relating to Pakistan, India and other countries in that region. Without taking sides, that is fighting POV-pushing no matter what it is for or against. And I intend to stay neutral. Thomas.W ^talk 18:16, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

If you are neutral my respected fellow then as you reported me for three revert rule you should also report them for sock puppet investigation as referred above. You are a senior so play that role. 39.47.184.157 (talk) 18:29, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Dear 39.47.184.157 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), it is not called as sock, that page is on watchlist of more than 200 users, means if any change made in article it will be visible to more than 200 users and later they will look for change, if they think that change is not suitable for Wikipedia then they revert it. Same page is on watchlist of alleged "pro-pakistani" users but they didn't gave you "back up", because even they know that your edits are not worth.--Human3015 Call me maybe!! • 18:35, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I can add that I have more than 9,000 pages on my watchlist, of which several thousand are articles relating to India, Pakistan and that part of the world. Which is why I often pop up out of nowhere when something happens on those articles. Thomas.W ^talk 18:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

So these were not very strange incidences where with in few minutes two editors revert in a sequence to avoid three revert rule. Human3015 Who are you fooling with ? Thomas.w your neutrality under question mate. 39.47.184.157 (talk) 05:46, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

All POV-pushers always question the neutrality of everyone who reverts them. Thomas.W ^talk 10:14, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

WP:GNL

Can you read the WP:GNL essay carefully?? Do you think it needs to be changed a little?? Georgia guy (talk) 16:45, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

@Georgia guy: WP:GNL is an essay expressing the personal opinion of one or more editors. It is not a policy or even a guideline, and thus carries no more weight than my personal opinion, the personal opinion of the random IP you have been reverting or the personal opinion of anyone else. Changing "man-made" to "made by people (as opposed to being natural)" in Swimming pool (and possibly other articles, though I haven't checked) is bad English, and outright silly. And edit-warring to keep it in the article is even more silly, so stop. I have absolutely no problem with gender-neutral language, and try to be as gender-neutral as I can be, but "attacking" established terms that by definition already are gender-neutral, just because they include the letters M, A and N, in that order, is going too far. What's next on your agenda? Changing every instance of "human" in articles to "huperson"?. Thomas.W ^talk 16:57, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Is GNL not-so-important compared with PNL?? (PNL stands for politically-neutral language, as distinct from "politically correct" or "politically incorrect"?? Georgia guy (talk) 17:03, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Que? Where have I mentioned PNL, and what has PNL got to do with this discussion, your repeated edit on Swimming pool or even Wikipedia? Thomas.W ^talk 17:15, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Do you notice exactly what I'm saying PNL means?? Georgia guy (talk) 17:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

@Georgia guy: This discussion is about your "crusade" against the term "man-made", nothing else. And I did NOT appreciate the blatant lie about me that you posted on Wikipedia talk:Gender-neutral language. Don't do it again or I'll drag you to whatever noticeboard that is needed for it. Thomas.W ^talk 17:26, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Your bias

It seems you have a special dislike for Pakistani editors furthermore take that notice and send it to the Indian pov single purpose accounts which pop up every other week instead of bullying Pakistani users. Zadon19 (talk) 14:00, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

By the looks of it you also seem to defend Indian sock users for this reason I cannot take you seriously you have extreme conflicts of interest. Zadon19 (talk) 14:02, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

No, I don't have a special dislike for Pakistani editors, and I don't defend people because they're Indian, I would even defend you if I felt you were unfairly accused of something or unfairly treated. As I have said before. Thomas.W ^talk 14:08, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Well I guess I can add Pakistani sources to your Indian army page ;) Zadon19 (talk) 14:17, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

It's not my Indian Army page, and yes you can add Pakistani sources there, provided that a) they are reliable and say what you claim they say, and b) you don't edit war over them. But I'm sure you already know the rules, and know what happens to editors who ignore them. Thomas.W ^talk 14:34, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

In a flood of Pro-Indian and Pro-Pakistani socks here Zadon19 could be the another one. He directly entered in controversial arena from his first edit. Read his second comment above "By the looks of it you also seem to defend Indian sock users", same wording that some socks always use on my talk page. He said "you also", means he already knows someone else also "supports" Indian socks, means he is not new user, he is just another account of recently blocked socks. --Human3015 knock knock • 14:42, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

I know what he wrote, and I think I know who it is, but as long as he doesn't break the rules I have no reason to do more about it than I already have. Thomas.W ^talk 15:29, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hello Thomas.W, and thank you for your recent work at stopping vandalism, which I have been watching. I think you have done a very good job at it. But I would like to ask why, when warning new editors about vandalism, you straight away go for the second level warning template (like you did here)? I thought a second level template was used when the user has vandalised something more than once (which the user linked hadn't done when warned)? I may be wrong (I seem to have a habit of not knowing things on Wikipedia). Anyway, thank you for your good work, you're doing a better job at that than me.  Seagull123  Φ  21:57, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

What level they get as their first warning depends on what they've done, clear deliberate cases of vandalism, POV-pushing or anything else highly undesirable get a level two, others get a level one, or a welcome message pointing out that whatever they've done is something they shouldn't have done (and there are several such templates available). The IP in your example had done this, which can't be seen as a good faith but unhelpful edit. It's a borderline case between a level one and a level two, though, but level two has proven to be more effective than a level one for that kind of edits, with fever repeat offenders among those who get a level two than among those who get a level one. Some cases of deliberate vandalism or POV-pushing might even get a level three as their first warning, even though there are few of those, and for the worst cases there are "level 4-IM" templates, that is immediate level four warnings. Which are rare and are usually only used for IP-hopping repeat offenders posting gross personal attacks, and similar. I hoped that answer helped. Thomas.W ^talk 22:20, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello.

I was previously editing on Indo-Pakistani War of 1947 without Logging in, so I Created My first wiki account.

Two users User:Zadon19 and User:MCIWS were blocked by Administrators Yesterday for continuously WP:WAR see - this, Now User:Zadon19 has come up with his sock 101.50.118.182 (talk) and continued to make unconstructive edits on Indo Pak articles see Edit History of Indo-Pakistani War of 1947 , WP:POV , WP:WAR, he's been reverted more than 9Times by Editors including twice by an Administrator in less then anone Hour. An Indefinite Block to Both these socks will be necessary to prevent wiki articles from Vandalism. Also He continued to remove sourced content even after getting warning twice by the Administrators on his talk page, so his this edit should be reverted, since he removed sourced contents F-INSAS (talk) 11:16, 7 July 2015 (UTC) F-INSAS (talk) 11:16, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

The IP has been blocked and I keep tab of what Zadon19 and MCIWS (and the people behind them) do, including new socks. Thomas.W ^talk 11:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

You do realise that the above user is a sock of WCIWS he made it while his account was blocked for 36 hours and then made the exact same edits on those pages WCIWS did calling for help etc communicating with you etc furthermore his message of "An Indefinite Block to Both these socks will be necessary to prevent wiki articles from Vandalism" was also used by WCIWS...pretty obvious. Freebuzzle1 (talk) 15:40, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

[10] thats his ip sock with identical edits. Easy link between the two. Freebuzzle1 (talk) 15:43, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

ANI

fwiw, I suggest you stop posting at the ANI about the close. The argument is not relevant to, and more importantly, it is a distraction from, the main issue. You've made your point and you are not going to convince the editors with whom you are arguing. Jytdog (talk) 15:00, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Jytdog Whether there should be a separate article for each species or not is totally irrelevant to the discussion about Atsme, but the posts desperately defending her in the thread are very interesting, since they show that a certain group of editors are prepared to support Atsme no matter what she does, even when doing so involves getting into territory they clearly know nothing about. Editors that support her for different reasons, one because they apparently share the same opinion in a certain subject area, and the other because they see it as a chance to hurt Bishonen. So I say let them continue to expose themselves. Thomas.W ^talk 15:15, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

it is completely irrelevant to the discussion of whether the block was good. ANI is about behavior not content; you are arguing about content. The more you respond, the less clueful you appear, and the more petty clutter you create, and the harder you make it for admins to focus on the issues. Clutter like that, is exactly what led to the earlier thread being hatted with no action. I will not respond here further - you can take my advice or leave it. Jytdog (talk) 15:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

AN/I

I have posted at WP:AIN#Astme redux on matters which concern you. Thanks, Alexbrn (talk) 12:47, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Laura Branigan

8/29/15: Your warning today that my latest edits "disrupt Wikipedia" are based on what specifics? All I did was link-in a file I found in Wiki Commons. If there's a problem with that file it's not my problem. On the contrary, it's you who have been repeatedly disruptive, as evidenced by your own comment listed below about "reverted 9 edits", all of which were totally correct in the first place and were all restored. "Against what all reliable sources say" turned out to be rank incompetence on your part, as you later admitted because an AP wire story is never considered reliable in itself, so what's your justification this time? I've never seen you add one constructive edit to this article, just sabotage my numerous constructive edits and cause me to have to undo your reversions. I already challenged you to an official conflict resolution, maybe I should officially request your editing privileges to be revoked? At least you reverted the arrogant sabotage of Other Half Entertainment, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt as to your fairness, but according to Wiki's official guidelines on disruptive editing, it's you not I who are doing it with this article when it comes to me, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing I quote: "When discussion fails to resolve the problem and when AN IMPARTIAL CONSENSUS OF EDITORS FROM OUTSIDE A DISPUTED PAGE (through requests for comment or similar means), further disruption is grounds for blocking, and may lead to more serious disciplinary action through the dispute resolution process". But you threatened to block me ON YOUR OWN without going through this process. So I'm warning you to stop your threats or I will report you. As to OHE, if they're really Branigan's official management company then when will they supply a link to a copy of her official birth certificate from the New York State records office that says 1957 instead of 1952? She was told by Atlantic Records to take 5 years off her age for publicity purposes and went along with it, but now that she's dead the record should be straightened out for all no matter how much they want to continue the charade. It seems that OHE has a PERSONAL CONNECTION to this article and should be the party banned from editing it, not fans like Stig Persson, or historians like moi, don't you agree? As to "original research", if this means scanning the Internet for information on Branigan then putting it in the article with appropriate links, that's something else entirely, good encyclopedia writing. As to the reversion of the Talk page, it was an accident on my part and I was in the process of trying to undo it when you beat me to it within seconds and threatened me yet again. I only wanted to delete a free plug to my site that Stig placed there, but since you seem to insist on it, thank you :) - 71.218.57.249 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.218.57.249 (talk) 04:59, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Re: "Reverted 9 edits by 71.218.57.249: Rv unsourced and undiscussed edits (changing the year of birth, sourced to IMDB, against what all reliable sources say, makes me doubt the other edits too..."

You continue to list her birth year as 1957 instead of 1952 and cite an unsigned newspaper article as your only source. The 1952 birth year comes from Internet Movie Database, a recognized authority in its field, yet you insist it's less reliable than a newspaper, in clear violation of Wiki guidelines, which consider all newspapers as suspicious when it comes to facts, the more so when the article is unsigned or signed by a non-recognized authority. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Identifying_reliable_sources The 1952 birth year jives with all of her biographical information, especially her own high school Web site which lists her year of graduation as 1970 at the usual age of 18, and the Web site of fellow Meadow band member Chris Van Cleave, who talks about meeting her in 1972 at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, which only admits high school graduates. http://www.aada.edu/admissions/requirements.html http://www.vancleavemusic.com/feature/home.html

You are therefore not improving Wiki with your stubbornness, so why continue reverting my valuable edits backed by good links that have turned a botched article into a fine one? Do you insist on an official dispute resolution? -- 71.218.57.249 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.218.57.249 (talk) 14:04, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

• What are you talking about? I reverted you once, then gave you a chance to fix it after your message on your talk page. Later reverts have been made by other editors, not by me. Thomas.W ^talk 16:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Thomas, I represent Laura Branigan's management company, Other Half Entertainment. Please refer to my talk on user/editor Jim1138 's page regarding reverts I made to Branigan's Wiki page last night, and re-did just now. There is very much to say about what this article should demonstrate, and there are so-called "fans" who have an unhealthy fixation with "correcting" what they perceive as "errors". In the past, the article was rather well-written, but since these people have appeared to hijack her page in July, the article has much uncited content, little NPOV, and sounds more like a promotional piece for everyone else but Branigan. I am in the midst of preparing for this weekend's "Spirit of Love" Memorial Gathering and we are on Long Island for that purpose, and particularly, today is the anniversary of Branigan's death. I am asking everyone to understand and respect the time. Once the event is over, I will endeavor to revert this article to what it was before it was hijacked by these so-called "fans".

The Laura Branigan Management and Production Company, the Official Voice of the Laura Branigan legacy 12:30, 26 August 2015 (UTC) Vince Golik, Other Half Entertainment — Preceding unsigned comment added by Other Half Entertainment (talk • contribs)

@Other Half Entertainment: Representing that company does not give you the right to control the article on Wikipedia, and the exact same rules apply to you as to anyone else who edits here, including all rules regarding blanking/vandalism and edit-warring. According to Wikipedia's rules all content should be properly sourced (see Wikipedia's rules regarding reliable sources and Wikipedia's rules regarding verifiability), but we do not censor content, nor do we remove content just because a production company doesn't like it. Instead of removing the material you should discuss it on the talk page of the article, and explain why you want it removed, adhering to Wikipedia's policies when doing so, and attempt to get the support of other editors for it, before removing it. Thomas.W ^talk 12:52, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Thomas: I was just finishing editing the Branigan article talk page when your comment on that page knocked my comment off. Since you appear to have control over the editing process here, and out of respect for the anniversary of Branigan's death, I would request that Wikipedia TAKE DOWN the Laura Branigan article IN ITS ENTIRETY for a period of time, rather than have known vandals continue hijacking its content with incorrect and unverifiable data.

The Laura Branigan Management and Production Company, the Official Voice of the Laura Branigan legacy 13:29, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Other Half Entertainment: I don't control the editing process here, and we don't take down articles because a production company asks us to. One of the contentious details seems to be her date of birth, which to me seems properly sourced and explained (see thread on talk page, with a number of external links), but you have repeatedly removed a lot more content than that, so explain what you want removed, and why you want it removed, but do it on the talk page of the article, where other editors can also see it, not here. Thomas.W ^talk 13:36, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Thomas: I DID attempt to do that on the Talk page for the article, and when you posted to the same page (note above), it removed my longer post. Briefly, we are NOT simply a production company, we are her business/legacy management, and we have a responsibility to ensure that public data, including on Wikipedia, is as valid and correct as it possibly can be. I will lay it out, though I don't want to have to do this TODAY (the anniversary of Laura's death); there are three people specifically, one in Sweden, one in Argentina, and one in the western US, who have consistently vandalized Laura's own Facebook page with argumentative assertions about the birth year issue. We at OHE are following the specific and exact direction given to us by Atlantic Records, and Branigan herself, and that is that the birth year was publicized as 1957, and that all reliable sources (newspaper articles, official biographies, record company publications, and even Rovi Corp, which is FAR more reliable as an impartial source than the "Internet Movie Database") have the SAME information. These three vandals have taken it upon themselves to "correct" what they perceive as an "error", and I will tell you that they are doing this out of spite (specifically the one in Sweden, I retained an email from this person describing what he was going to do, which included vandalizing Wiki) because we banned him and his Washington-state friend from Branigan's Facebook page for repeated violations of Facebook policy; their violations have been documented, this issue was discussed between us, Facebook, and our legal counsel, and we were advised to ban them permanently. I know that Facebook may have little to do with Wikipedia, but the same people who have caused mayhem recently on Branigan's Facebook page are the same ones doing it here. I would HOPE that Wiki editors would understand that there is much more going on here with respect to this article, and much more than I can explain here. We as her management do have to keep a certain level of decorum regarding what we can and cannot say publicly, but we, like many other celebrity management companies, have been fighting battles like this for years; this is simply the latest version of the fight by people who call themselves fans but are in reality, trolls.

64.134.98.112 (talk) 14:02, 26 August 2015 (UTC) Vince Golik (awaiting username change - wasn't aware the username policy had changed)

Why does it matter so much to you if the article says 1952 or 1957? The only source for 1957 seems to be her obituary in New York Times, while the thread about her birth date on the talk page of the article contains a lot of information supporting 1952 as her year of birth, compiled by the "fans", as you describe them. I have no personal opinion about which year is correct or isn't, but the information compiled by the "fans" (supported by many external links) seems to outweigh the claim in New York Times. Thomas.W ^talk 14:11, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

For the benefit of my talk page stalkers I should add that you've been removing information supporting 1952 as her year of birth for the past seven years, even from the talk page of the article, so this is nothing new. But why, why does it matter so much to you? Thomas.W ^talk 14:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Maharana Pratap

ThomasW I move matter from one section to another and still moving. In the middle of editing. Please cooperate Da. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajamundhry reddy (talk • contribs) 21:48, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

• That's not what your edit summary said, so I'm going to keep an eye on what you're doing on the article. Thomas.W ^talk 22:04, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Why did you remove matter which was sourced properly? Look at this first line which you removed is proper aint it? It is recorded in historical annals that as he lay dying, Pratap made his son and successor, Amar Singh, swear to maintain eternal conflict against the Mughals.

Or you point a fault with this source. How can you remove it?

why did you remove poetry by Tagore? He is a nobel laureate from India and people know him all over the world? Do you not know him?

are you trying to harass me ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajamundhry reddy (talk • contribs)

• Harass you? Did you really believe that adding {{cn}}-tags to the material you added would excuse you from the requirement that all material that is added must be sourced? Did you expect other editors to find the sources for you, or did you hope that no-one would notice? You also removed sourced material, twice, claiming here after first being reverted that you were moving it to another section, but then not adding it anywhere. The text you added is also unencyclopaedic POV, the articles here on Wikipedia don't exist to glorify people, places or things, but to reflect what reliable sources say about people, places and things. And it's up to the person who adds the material to provide the sources for it, when adding the material. So read Wikipedia's rules about citing sources, verifiability and neutral point of view. Thomas.W ^talk 22:39, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

You have still not said what is the mistake in Romesh Chandra book reference which you deleted without rhyme or reason? I am asking you for the second time.

Secondly I have the references for the "cn" tags that I had put put. If you notice carefully for one of the "cn" tags the original poster had provided a citation but it was "red" and i removed it thinking of supplying a better reference which I do have now.

Since you have removed the matter I cannot add the citations.

Why are you not allowing breathing room to people? Are you at a war here or a few minutes or hours so difficult to grant? I am indeed feeling harassed and not comfortable with your attitude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajamundhry reddy (talk • contribs) 01:03, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, I'll tell you why I'm not going to give you a few hours of "breathing room". A) The source you give for some of your edits is not verifiable, a book by that name was published in 1943, but the name of the author is not the name that you give in your "reference", a "reference" that, in the exact same form as you write it, down to the page number, can been found on various forums and more or less nationalistic Wikis on the 'Net, which is where I believe you found it. And since the name of the author is wrong and no mention of it can be found in other places it looks very much like a fake reference. B) Most of your edits aren't sourced at all, you even added "citation needed"-tags to the material yourself, probably to make it look as if it had been there for a while. C) Moving text from one section to another doesn't take hours, not even minutes, so the time I gave you was more than enough for making such a move, but no move was made, what you did was deleting sourced material without adding it back anywhere. Thomas.W ^talk 12:21, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

References

bergspider.net

please help me to remove my website Dirk Beetstra put my domain from the blacklist yourself GawenBerg (talk) 18:31, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

• No, I'm not going to help you remove bergspider.net from the spam blacklist since it was repeatedly spammed here by very persistent Romanian and Pakistani IPs. And even if it was removed from the spam blacklist it wouldn't be allowed as a reference here, since it clearly isn't a reliable source by Wikipedia's standards, it also wouldn't be allowed as an external link since it doesn't fulfill any of the criteria for that (see WP:ELNO), so I see no use for it here. The only one who would benefit from a whitelisting, and having links on Wikipedia, is you, since it would improve your rating at Google, but Wikipedia doesn't exist to help site owners get more traffic. Thomas.W ^talk 19:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

GawenBerg

@Thomas.W Kindly remove my website from blacklist: bergspider.net. Someone has been posting my website on Wikipedia which is very embarassing for me. My website adds value to its visitors by giving them relevant and up-to-date information on the latest technologies. I share the same vision as is of Wikipedia to make information accessible to more and more people. As we share the common goals so it would be kind action on your part remove my website from blacklist: bergspider.net.. Thanking You, — Preceding unsigned comment added by GawenBerg (talk • contribs)

• @GawenBerg: Again, no. Your site was repeatedly spammed here, is not a reliable source and does not add anything worthwhile as an exterior link. As you have been repeatedly told. Your attempt to remove your site from the blacklist yourself and your falsification of a request in my name to remove your site on MediaWiki Spam Blacklist doesn't improve your case either. So I'm not going to help you remove it, not now, not ever. Thomas.W ^talk 07:48, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

beqa

heorgians have 21 mi -24

 see this page   http://defense-update.com/20131229_georgian_helicopters.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.43.226.251 (talk) 16:13, 1 July 2015 (UTC) 

Nope. That's a reference from 2013 saying that Georgia once "had 21 Mi-24" and that they were being retired. Which is not the same as Georgia now having 21 Mi-24, as you changed it to. What Georgia have now is 9 Mi-24, just as "World Air Forces 2015" says. Thomas.W ^talk 16:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

GOT IT!

...... where you belong i.e. Sure you decide what's to be on "your talk". I was asking something and you could have answered on "my Talk". I clearly asked if you could do so on "my this ip's talk" and not yours. I don't care whether you retain my message on your Talk or not, provided you read, ingested, digested, assimilated, contemplated, and then replied. Fun monitoring "South Asian" crap isn't it??? My message wasn't so much fun however even if South Asian and you went ooouch I can see! NOW, I PROMISE you on the very life of your british creed, I will approach whoever I need to, till I get this WIKI petition/movement started, and shall proliferate it in the months to come. Ciao. 117.194.252.10 (talk) 10:42, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Maybe you did, but you most probably got it wrong. I'm neutral on Wikipedia in all matters that relate to India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and that part of the world, and intend to stay neutral. Thomas.W ^talk 10:48, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Gratified that you replied and that's the sole reason I came back one final time. In fact, I wouldn't have, but your answer seems to imply I accused you of taking sides in South Asian matters. I think my English was plain enough for anybody to see IN THE FIRST PLACE, that your stance on South Asian politics was not even an issue, as evidenced by my earlier message, which you removed and ignored COMPLETELY, TWICE over. I have zero doubts about your neutrality on India/Pakistan/Afghanistan issues - and that is as you say so - not that your being otherwise would bother me in the least really. And you can be on whichever side you wish to be if you were to not stay neutral. I still couldn't care less. I speak as an Indian and every other "South-Asian" non-Indian. And I speak as a Hindu/Sikh/Buddhist/Jain/Muslim/Christian/Jew/Parsi/Bahai/etc. Maintain your neutrality on South Asian matters as you please. Myself, I am also quite neutral and righteous, on whether the shameless brits should keep their loot or not. And shall not rest till I get WIKI users' signatures on my petition. Good day to you. 117.194.252.10 (talk) 11:13, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

I noticed that you only posted your petition on my talk page, why me and noone else? Thomas.W ^talk 11:22, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Well I will try not to get sucked in a loop with this. Hopefully my last reply. But of course you have the knack to give those little tweaks to things. All of what I entail were already there in my first post. a) I have been seeing your special interest in South Asian (political) pages; b) this has been the case for a year; c) you are not Asian; and most importantly d) therefore I thought I could take the liberty of asking you how' to start such a petition. how. I NEVER started one. I cannot if I don't know how to obviously. So asking you (or anybody) to sign on a non-existent thing would be BS. Being a non-Asian, a longtime editor and who takes interest in the present-day South-Asian political scenario (maybe 80% of which is a direct fallout of colonialism), I thought you might want to help with the same. But I now find myself though on another trajectory altogether. 117.194.252.10 (talk) 11:36, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Post a question on Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South Asia and ask there, but start with a shorter question, not with a wall of text. Those talk pages are your best chance, both for getting help with starting it and for getting support for it. And I'm sorry if I was a bit too much on my guard. Thomas.W ^talk 12:17, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Well that's spoken like a true genteel and thanks for the same. And I too apologize if in my earliest message I seemed like directing my vituperative towards you as I was not. Of course that language would come seeing the mess that the region is in. I will do as you have suggested and shall obviously cut out the flab. Hopefully WIKI will give a positive response on that and it will be a known thing over the months to come. Regards. 117.194.254.196 (talk) 13:06, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Faisalabad

Hello Mr Thomas. W,

I wish to make Faisalabad a good article. Can you guide Mr Potto so we can clean the article but not remove alot of the data that was worked on. History section has all been removed, pictures, and geology section too. This is causing problems on the page. --Ellanorani (talk) 12:34, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

As you can see on his talk page I've already noted that he might not really know what he's doing, so I'll take a closer look at the article later today. Thomas.W ^talk 12:44, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. The Early History section has been fully deleted. A number of pictures have also been remained and/or removed. You might want to look back over the course of the month to see the changed. Some changes like wording is good but entire sections should not be deleted altogether. --Ellanorani (talk) 13:29, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Megacity

Thank you for your help and the useful information you provided me with. I have never added information to Wikipedia before and was still working on what I was adding so I will review what I need to post and re-post under the proper guidelines, with proper sources, and under a proper username. UOIT EnergyEng (talk) 19:10, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

formation of andhra state is different from formation of Andhra pradesh

Hi There I have Removed Fomration of Andhra state details from Telangana page as it has nothing to do with state of Telangana Formation of Andhra pradesh can be in the History of Telangana because Andhra state and 10 districts of Hyderabad state formed Andhra Pradesh . Formation of Andhra state in 1953 Cannot be part of Telangana History but should be in the history of Andhra Pradesh and Andhra State. After the Death of Potti sri ramulu in 1953 after Andhra state was existing as independent state for 3 yrs there was a state Reorgination Act which resulted in Andhra Pradesh state.

Hence history of Andhra state is irrelevant in Telangana page. History of Hyderabad state would be more relevant. Facts should not be distorted by added unnecessary information on a Page — Preceding unsigned comment added by K.n.narin (talk • contribs) 21:57, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

That's an acceptable reason for removing it from Telangana. If you had explained it when you removed it the first time I wouldn't have reverted you. The text could be of interest in an article about the history of erstwhile Madras State too, though, since the areas were carved out of that state. Thomas.W ^talk 22:12, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

true thank you, and yes it makes more sensible if we add that in Madras state . — Preceding unsigned comment added by K.n.narin (talk • contribs) 22:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Differential (mechanical device)

Hi Thomas. Perhaps you might like to reconsider deleting the Chocholek reference in the above article. If you read the referenced page you will see that it was written by an employee of the company that developed it (Gleason Corporation), and appears to have been originally published by the IMechE. I would suggest therefore that the article is both notable and reliable. Its appearance on the "Z car club" page may be odd, but it seems that the club has sourced a number of good articles from elsewhere. The key fact being that Gleason Corporation, Chocholek and the IMechE are a citable authority, not the Z club who merely provide a site on which the page is reproduced. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:35, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

The links weren't deleted because the website looked odd but because it's just a bunch of information with no mention of where that information comes from, which means it isn't verifiable. I noticed the page when a very persistent new user account tried to add a bunch of trivia with a link to zhome.com on Z, and decided to check if others had spammed it too. I'll look at the page you mentioned, but the best solution would be to try to find the same information on a reliable site somewhere, or the book or whatever Z-Club got it from, instead of going by way of their club page. Thomas.W ^talk 21:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

I am in two minds

If you look at the talk page of Acorn Mobility I have flagged the individual connected contributors as being connected. I have never decided whether the COI banner in addition is overkill or not when the {{Connected contributor}} template is used on the talk page. I suspect my thinking is that it matters to those to whom it matters. Fiddle Faddle 08:18, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

The {{COI}} tag shows that some of the information on the page should be taken with a grain of salt, and that the article might need a rewrite. The other IP, 99.232.13.165, is probably also connected to Acorn, BTW, since it geolocates to Toronto, where Acorn's office in Canada is (in Missisauga, a suburb of Toronto). As for Acorn being notable enough to have an article or not I don't have an opinion strong enough to !vote in the AfD. I'd say it's a borderline case, a case where most editors would probably !vote keep. Thomas.W ^talk 08:30, 9 July 2015 (UTC)