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WP:NASCAR Newsletter (April 2013)

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National Airlines Flight 102

Made by our friend, Ryan....William 22:28, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Quacking isn't quite loud enough for an instablock (yet), so sent to SPI... - The Bushranger One ping only 22:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Name pattern fits. Also the fact no link in the template. Ryan more often than not does not do that. Article has notability issues. Other than ASN, the press has nothing on it....William 22:38, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Yep, but the fact there's zero spelling/grammar issues is making me /just/ leery enough to hold off pending a confirmation. Keeping a sharp eye on him though. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:41, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
Actually, there is one: "Media reports claimed that the crew where heard on VHF..." :) - BilCat (talk) 23:15, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
I see that that was added by an IP, User:81.240.137.47. Still fishy though. - BilCat (talk) 23:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Just a question

...about this discussion and the related article move discussions. So the result will be that the categories use "program" but the corresponding "main articles" will all use "programme"? Good Ol’factory (talk) 06:11, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Actually, the 'main articles' are a mix of 'program' and 'programme', just as the category names were. Unfortunatly it seems the article names will remain a mix unless somebody else can convince people that having uniformity over the page titles within the subject is desirable vis-a-vis hewing to the "retain the first used when there are no strong national ties" letter of WP:ENGVAR. I beat my head against that brick wall once trying to make them standardised on one or the other and am not keen on going a second round. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:04, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
What I meant is that now we have Luna programme and Category:Luna program; Lunokhod programme and Category:Lunokhod program; Buran programme and Category:Buran program; Salyut programme and Category:Salyut program; Soyuz programme and Category:Soyuz program; Voskhod programme and Category:Voskhod program; Vostok programme and Category:Vostok program. None of these match in format with each other. The ones I can see that do match is Mars program and Category:Mars program; Category:Zond program and Zond program. I'm not blaming you as I know you've tried mightily to standardise these articles/categories one way or the other. I'm just saying—now I think I'm going to become one of those people who make fun of WP because it can't seem to use consistent spelling in categories as compared to its applicable articles. I suppose when there is minimal cooperation, it comes down to whether we have consistency across categories or consistency with individual categories and their individual articles. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:49, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, the WP:NABOBS win either way on this one. Looking it over I decided that it was best for what uniformity could be gotten; perhaps WP:CCC at some point in the future otherwise... - The Bushranger One ping only 06:00, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
I think maybe give it some time. As the categories sit there for awhile with consistent spelling, maybe eventually reason will prevail regarding the articles. I find it quite weird how tied up people get over WP:ENGVAR. It's all not really that big of a deal! Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:48, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully so. And completely agreed on that - it's all quite Silly! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:59, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Celeste Star

College Football Playoff move

BR, could you take a look at Talk:NCAA Division I FBS playoffs#Requested move, and see if there's a consensus to move yet, and move it if there is? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 23:32, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Looking at it, it seems it might be nearing consensus - but I'm not sure, personally, if the policy supports the proposed name. I think it'd be best if I let somebody else close it, honestly. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:09, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
How does policy support the current name? It's completely made up, and not a likely search target as such. Anyone reading about the new "College Football Playoff" in a newspaper or on the web who wants to know more about it from WP is likely to search for the full name first. What exactly am I missing here about the naming policy? Before last week, College Football Playoff was blank, and College football playoff redirected to College football playoff debate, which article will probably be merged to the new one anyway to flesh out the history. What exactly am I missing here about the naming policy? There is no common other name to take precedence over the official one, and we don't generally pre-disambiguate either. - BilCat (talk) 20:25, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
IMHO it's an ambiguous term - doesn't Division II (or whatever they're calling it this week) have a playoff? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:34, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
They all have other titles, and no one redirected the proposed title to any of them, as far as I can tell. The no-caps name is ambiguous, but the proper name isn't used by anyone else. But I can see why you don't want to get involved administratively. I do wish whoever named it had chosen a less ambiguous name, but they didn't, so we're stuck with it. - BilCat (talk) 20:52, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Alrighty (and thanks). Yeah, if things were "done right" the first time, it'd certainly help everything wouldn't it! - The Bushranger One ping only 00:00, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
To be clear, I was referring to whatever committee chose the name for the actual games, not the user who chose the article's current title, as the offical name hadn't been announced when the article was created. Now that the event has a name, I don't see why it can't be used, since the title is avalible for use on WP. Just as an analogy, both Stock Car Race and Stock car race are blank pages on WP. If someone decided to name/rename a NASCAR race simply the Stock Car Race, it would be ambiguous too. I think we need a guidleline that gives preference to an organization's or event's name actual name when the title isn't otherwise used on WP, and I this this would be inline with existing guidelines on not pre-disambuguationg article titles. In any case, I think this is a clear case of IAR to follow common sense. - BilCat (talk) 07:25, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Trouble with anonymous IP

I really need some assistance on the matter, I opened a ticket at ANI some time ago but no Administrator as of yet wants to take the case.

Allow me brief you on the current situation. A consensus was reached at the talk page of the Potential superpowers article and one of the results was to remove Brazil and Russia from the article due to a lack of academic citations. The reason we want several authoritative and reliable academic citations for each country in the article is because we want to bring the Potential superpowers article up to par with other Power (international relations) articles. For example, the Great power article (of which I am involved in maintaining too) has a consensus in place whereby numerous academic citations are used to cite each nation mentioned in the article. After all, if the network of articles dealing with Power in international relations is based on the academic of political science, it only makes sense to want to reference these articles using the publications of academics and Doctors of political science. Don't you agree?

Anyway as I said before, the consensus was reached at Potential superpowers and the resulting changes were made to the article (I.e removal of Brazil and Russia). Additionally, it was also agreed to make certain changes to the Superpower article because naturally the Superpower article and the Potential superpower article are very closely related in terms of topic and there is a slight overlap of information. The changes made to the Superpower article were to remove inconclusive and unsupported material mentioning Brazil and Russia (just like on the Potential superpowers article).

However, an anonymous IP (displaying a battleground mentality) is having none of this and continually reverts the consensus supported changes at the Superpower article. Obviously the agreed upon consensus conflicts with his own POV and he refuses to even acknowledge the validity of the consensus. I do regret that I did engage in edit-warring with the IP during an attempt to enforce the consensus and an administrator proceeded to protect the article, however he protected the article with the unsupported revision by the IP online as it was simply the 'current' revision at the time of protection. Note that the Admin (User:Amalthea) wants nothing to do with the situation.

The IP also removed the archive templates to the closed discussion which holds the consensus. This made it particularly difficult for a viewing editor to get a brief summary of the consensus as the results of the consensus is removed if the archive templates are removed. I have since closed the discussion again but do not know if the IP will 're-open' the discussion. BTW, is the IP allowed to open a closed discussion? Other editors involved during the consensus building are not too happy either, I quote: "I find it quite outrageous that the page has been protected with the version supported by a clearly trolling IP editor, rather than that supported by several long-standing editors." User:David (talk) 08:03, 1 May 2013 (UTC). I would also like to say that in addition to myself - User:Mrodowicz (involved in the consensus), User:Joaquin008 (passing by) and User:David (involved in the consensus) have also reverted edits restoring the unsupported content in favor of the revision supported by consensus.

A consensus is in place but cannot be enforced to its full extent because of a single IP - yes a single IP vs several established editors backed by consensus. Perhaps I should start editing as an IP, then I could single handed oppose consensus, re-open closed discussions and post illogical arguments (the IP refers to me as "Ip user Antiochus the Great").

I understand if you want to avoid this scenario! I truly do, but your assistance is needed.Antiochus the Great (talk) 00:21, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Could also be a case for sock-puppetry here, newly created user accounts whose only edit history is at potential superpowers and they are conveniently mirroring the IPs arguments.Antiochus the Great (talk) 00:30, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Those do smell of sock. I looked that over having seen it at AN/I and it's a rather messy situation - I will say that to my eyes the IP is clearly in the wrong. I am however in the process of heading off for the night, and would prefer not to "drive-by admin", as it were; if it's still active in the morning I'll ahve a look, but in the meantime you might want to ping User:The_ed17, who's good at this sort of thing. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:29, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
I do not have the time to engage with this right now, sorry! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:32, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

How obvious does sock puppetry have to be? David (talk) 17:42, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I've full-protected Potential superpowers for the same period as Superpower was already full-protected, so that the dispute can be resolved on the talk page. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:06, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Possible sock puppet of IronKnuckle

I think I may have found an IronKnuckle sockpuppet today posting in a mixed martial arts AfDs. NodachiFury did his first edit in early April and has too good an understanding of Wikipedia's rules and regulations to be a new user IMO. Also, many of this user's edits involved labeling the religions of many pro-gun control politicians as Jewish in their bio box here, here and here. As you probably recall, IronKnuckle was banned for making anti-jewish remarks and for bad faith edits and AfD nominations for gun control advocates. He also did a lot of voting in Mixed Martial Arts AfDs, of which NodachiFury has made many in the past two days. The similarities are too much, but I don't know the proper route to go with such an allegation. I figured you were the right admin to turn to. Luchuslu (talk) 18:38, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Looks like it's off to WP:SPI we go. Thanks for the catch. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:05, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
No problem. Luchuslu (talk) 05:27, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

American Electric Piranha

Hi there, this is described as a Stub on the article page but rated MilHist Start on the talk page. We should get it consistent and I'd be more inclined to call it Stub than Start myself, though I appreciate there may not be much to say on this plane... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 12:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Barring somebody getting their hands on a copy of that 1976 issue of Sport Aviation, it'll be pretty hard to expand. I put the stub tag on essentially because if I didn't somebody else would come along and do so (I've seen that done), but IMHO it is not a stub, as it has the stats section, infobox w/photo, etc. No worries if you think otherwise tho. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 April newsletter

We are a week into Round 3, but it is off to a flying start, with Republic of Rose Island Sven Manguard (submissions) claiming for the high-importance Portal:Sports and Portal:Geography (which are the first portals ever awarded bonus points in the WikiCup) and Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) claiming for a did you know of sea, the highest scoring individual did you know article ever submitted for the WikiCup. Round 2 saw very impressive scores at close; first place New South Wales Casliber (submissions) and second place Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) both scored over 1000 points; a feat not seen in Round 2 since 2010. This, in part, has been made possible by the change in the bonus points rules, but is also testament to the quality of the competition this year. Pool C and Pool G were most competitive, with three quarters of participants making it to Round 3, while Pool D was the least, with only the top two scorers making it through. The lowest qualifying score was 123, significantly higher than last year's 65, 2011's 41 or even 2010's 100.

The next issue of The Signpost is due to include a brief update on the current WikiCup, comparing it to previous years' competitions. This may be of interest to current WikiCup followers, and may help bring some more new faces into the community. We would also like to note that this round includes an extra competitor to the 32 advertised, who has been added to a random pool. This extra inclusion seems to have been the fairest way to deal with a small mistake made before the beginning of this round, but should not affect the competition in a large way. If you have any questions or concerns about this, please feel free to contact one of the judges.

A rules clarification: content promoted between rounds can be claimed in the round after the break, but not the round before. The case in point is content promoted on 29/30 April, which may be claimed in this round. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 15:43, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Re: Greg Bard rants

I hate to be the bad guy, but on 1 May you warned Greg on ANI with "one more rant like the one above, and you will be blocked until you realise this sort of conduct is utterly inappropritate for Wikipedia." Well, I believe he has graced us with half a dozen or so rants like that one since the original warning. Viriditas (talk) 07:35, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Yep. The trouble is I'm WP:INVOLVED after !voting, and otherwise I've pretty much washed my hands of the issue - it got to the point where I figured "heck with it". If somebody else goes all hammertime on him, though, they'll have my 220% support. - The Bushranger One ping only 13:26, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
No worries. I'm curious what's going to happen next. Viriditas (talk) 20:15, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Flowers

Hello there
I noticed you reverted the changes I made a while ago to the Flower class corvette template, (I added redirects instead of pipes) because “ they display properly in the infobox on the page in question” (here). I wasn’t sure what that meant; is it where the name appears in bold on the page in question (like here)?

Anyway, Is that something we do now? I had thought piping links to avoid redirects was not good practice, as it is confusing on the face of it (like when you mouse over the name) and because it messes up the What links here function. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:48, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Potential superpowers

Hello, me (Antiochus the Great) again. As you will remember we were having trouble with a dispute at the Potential superpowers article after a consensus had been reached. One of the primary problems was a very disruptive IP with a battleground mentality. You decided to protect the article so we could all talk it through and come to an agreement on the articles talk page - this was an excellent idea, however the IP has gone from bad to worse. He shows no real interest in reaching any agreement, he has followed me to other Wikipedia articles to insult me and be disruptive and he is insulting other editors at the Potential superpowers article.

The IPs latest comment: "Mediolanum, why does it take you 18 saved edits to write 4 sentences? Can you write and spell? Sure looks like you need help. Should I ask Kermit the frog if you know each other since you really don't make any sense here. You agree but you can't read, spell and write but you have an opinion to say the article looks good. Wow.. Are you related to Antiohus the the Great, a cousin, son, sister, brother or ?? Sounds like a conflict of interest. LOL on the article, I guess since it's readable and attracted to 3rd graders as it looks like it was written by 3rd graders."

This is blatant personal attack, he is being disruptive and there is a whole bunch of well-to-do editors which have simply had enough. The IP has also stated that when the page protection expires he will not agree with any changes other editors have agreed upon and revert them. The guy is impossible. Even you said it appears the IP is in the wrong.

No one would shed a tear if he were blocked. He has caused too much distress to too many editors and hist edit history shows no signs of constructive editing. Its fair to say he needs sorting out.

The above are all the IPs he has used. Edit history and behaviour speak for themself.Antiochus the Great (talk) 11:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I concur. I have not been subject to the harassment that Antiochus has been subject to, but I have seen it at Talk:Blue-water navy Talk:Superpower and Talk:Potential superpower. It is trolling, it is sock-puppetry, it is disruptive. Will action be taken? David (talk) 18:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
I have followed the link at the article because I too feel there is no pleasure when someone must try to do harm and hurt the other editors. Too far some people go to be insulting and they are not here to do good on the articles or Wikipedia. I even left a friendly comment first to urge editors to maybe give him a chance but he continues to afterward strongly offend. Why? I do not know, but he must be removed if peaceful and constructive exchange of comments is to continue. No body has forced his hand to do bad he decided it him self even after encouragement not to.Languid Scientist (talk) 18:41, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment Anyone can look on the talk page and see a great many PA being directed at the IP editor. All of these guys ought to be given a stern warning, not just the IP. Darkness Shines (talk) 18:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Darkness - you have to understand the full context of what's going on here. For WEEKS this has been going on - a single person, coming to Wikipedia as several anon. IP addresses and (earlier) new accounts, is being disruptive (re the articles I mentioned above in particular) and then started to harass/troll Antiochus. I can't see how the IP can be defended. Look at his history of comments and edits! Totally disruptive. A Vandal. David (talk) 18:49, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Darkness, I have yet to see an editor PA the IP. Claiming that his actions are "trolling" is factual not a PA. Also, taking my comment out of context is improper and poor show to prove a nonexistent point. The general thrust of my comment was that if editors cannot grasp the understanding of what a "Supepower" is as opposed to an "Agricultural superpower" then obviously this isn't the place for them to be leaving comments as they show an obvious lack of knowledge on the subject (thus I said inept level of capacity). However, i do apologise if you felt the comment was rather strong.Antiochus the Great (talk) 19:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, I have left a comment on his talkpage - perhaps you would reinforce my request at MilborneOnes talk page? It would be appreciated.Antiochus the Great (talk) 11:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Francesca Hogi

  • Hello there. My name is Eric AKA MouthlessBobcat. I recently created an article. It is properly sourced, gives good references and is suitable under WP:BIO. Yet it survived two deletion nominations. For some reason I think the subject being a television personality, the audience doesn't feel the subject is notable but that isn't the case.

They all decided to Merge the article, and that made me very upset as they did not even consider my opinion. I really need your help because I feel this article is suitable and I dont' want it hidden or brushed away. MouthlessBobcat (talk) 20:11, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Given the situation, I'd suggest that you open a discussion at the dispute resolution noticeboard - it's a bit too much for one admin to come in and overturn at this point, either way. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:51, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion: Jazzy Jordan Article

Good afternoon... I'm writing you in regards to the Jazzy Jordan article that you've deleted in November 2012... He has accomplished many great things in the music industry such as Clive Davis, Jay Z, P. Diddy, and LA Reid, yet his article has been deleted. Just recently he was also recognized at the US House of Representatives as and American Icon and when we google his name under James "Jazzy" Jordan, a link reading speedy deletion article appears as advertisement makes all his accomplishments appear to be in vain... my request is how do I remove that link from the web since it was an article that I wrote and can his article be reinstated since his works are recognized in Congress by US Reps (http://vimeo.com/65601484 ). That's extraordinary, not just anybody has that type of recognition. Lastly, can you help me write to where it's acceptable for Wikipedia? Hansomd 21:47, 10 May 2013 (UTC)hansomd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hansomd (talk • contribs)

Unfortunatly, I don't have time to aid in writing these days. However, if you can cite the article using reliable sources to establish notability, then you can recreate the article. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:05, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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Sky Commando

This cheesy film turns out to be the last feature made by talented but fragile Frances Gifford. Although a B actioneer, laden with stock aviation combat footage, there is a hint of plot. "Touch Connors", later known as Mike Connors of Mannix TV fame and Dan Duryea in one of his few sympathetic roles, also have starring roles.FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:39, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Looks quite nifty indeed! - The Bushranger One ping only 21:49, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Coast Guard (1939 film)

For your consideration, Coast Guard (1939 film), another B feature that, nonetheless, has a Douglas Dolphin as one of the stars, alongside a trio of rising movie idols, Randolph Scott, Ralph Bellamy and Frances Dee. Coast Guard was a typical period B film actioner, combining exciting coast guard rescues with a romantic sub-plot: "friends in love with girl, girl picks cad, romance in trouble, all is right in the end". Relatively pleasant but forgettable fare, Coast Guard appeared to be similar to other B features of the time. Leonard Maltin, in a later review, commented, "Routine but action-filled hokum with similarities to Capra's Dirigible." FWiW Bzuk (talk) 17:13, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Sounds like a lot of these B-movies follow a Clive Cusslerish plot formula: same-y after you've read/seen enough of them, yet always good for an afternoon's escape of the mind! - The Bushranger One ping only 19:57, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Merging G 120A with G 120TP

Hi Bushranger. By merging the G 120A with the G 120TP you missed some information referring to aircraft specifications and technical data of the G 120TP. Because of the fact, that the G 120TP isn't a variant of the G 120A (different fuselage, wing, engine) it was on purpose that I created a seperate article. From my point of view it will make more sense to return to seperate articles. Best regards, MaxSpeed, 14:19, 15 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaxSpeed (talk • contribs)

Ah, I see that now. It looks like it might indeed be a valid spinout article as a derived type - feel free to recreate the article (Grob G 120TP appears to be the proper title), be sure to include reliable sources for how it differes from the base G120A. ). - The Bushranger One ping only 14:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer. Do I have to create a new article or is it possible to undo the merging? MaxSpeed (talk) 08:03, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I've restored the article at Grob G 120TP. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:08, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank's! - MaxSpeed (talk) 08:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

socking at AfD?

Hi, could you please have a look at this one? WP:Articles for deletion/Brenda Lowe. I think there may be some socking and would welcome your opinion. See this edit [1] for details. Thanks. Logical Cowboy (talk) 00:35, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Hmm. Those do look somewhat odd, don't they? There isn't enough for any sort of WP:DUCK block, but I do think there's enough that a WP:SPI might not be inappropriate. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:55, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your response, I have posted this to WP:Sockpuppet_investigations/Beachsand2004. Logical Cowboy (talk) 20:21, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi, what's your advice on the AfD given the results at WP:Sockpuppet_investigations/Beachsand2004? The original AfD WP:Articles for deletion/Brenda Lowe is really a mess now. Logical Cowboy (talk) 14:26, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
...woah. That's one heck of a dryerful of socks. I've struck the !votes at the AfD that came from the now-blocked accounts. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:13, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

A couple of winners??

Mission Over Korea , B film showing some good Stinson L-5 Sentinel footage and Sky Commando, another B actioneer churned out by shlockmaster Fred Sears. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:09, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Time to kick back with some BLTs and popcorn for throwing at the screen, I think! - The Bushranger One ping only 17:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much

Thank you for your help and assistance with the AFD closure of BLT cocktail as Keep, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 17:18, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

No worries. I notice the closing script now has a prompt for a date entry, when was that added? - The Bushranger One ping only 17:20, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Huh, no idea, I haven't closed one in a while now. — Cirt (talk) 00:38, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance please

You are from Australia, correct? Can I ask your help with how to cite some Australian references? In User:Geo Swan/Zaky Mallah I couldn't figure out the name Australians use when citing articles from www.news.com.au.

  • Candace Sutton (2013-05-17). "Australian ex terrorist accused's top tips for joining jihad". Australian News. Retrieved 2013-05-18. Jihad is not just about taking up arms and fighting, it can also be undertaken without breaking laws," he said. "There are several methods of being involved in the struggle. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  • Amy Dale (2011-05-30). "Former terror suspect Zaky Mallah sacked for YouTube videos of restricted areas". Australian News. Retrieved 2013-05-18. Mr Mallah told The Daily Telegraph last night he believed he was sacked after his employer found he had once been accused of terrorism, a claim yesterday denied by ANZ Stadium. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

Feel free to offer other comments on the draft. Geo Swan (talk) 04:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm not from Australia - I'm from the US. I just use the "bushranger" name because it started as a NASCAR pun (Busch Series). So unfortunatly I can't be of much help. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:55, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Ryan is playing around

His IP did this[2]. All the edits are his....William 17:02, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Facepalm Facepalm - The Bushranger One ping only 17:41, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

re: Templates

Show me where this consensus is please. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:37, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

It's here. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

CFD in need of being closed.

It's this one[3]. Only editors who responded to my nomination agreed that it should be merged....William 18:05, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Consider it done. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:30, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

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Happy Memorial Day!


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Thanks. *renders a salute to those who serve* - The Bushranger One ping only 16:48, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Happy Memorial Day!


ZappaOMati is wishing you a Happy Memorial Day! On this day, we recognize our fellow countrymen who have fought our nation's battles for the past several hundred years, protecting our freedom and safety. We remember those who paid the ultimate price and we support those who continue to willingly sacrifice their safety for the sake of their country. Happy Memorial Day!

Share this message by adding {{subst:Memorial Day}} to a fellow American's talk page.

Thanks. *renders a salute to those who serve* - The Bushranger One ping only 16:48, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Overcategorized?

A athlete is from the town of Smith in Jones County. Smith has its own category as does Jones. An editor comes along and creates 'Sportspeople from Jones County'. Is it overcategorization if the athlete is in both 'People from Smith' and 'Sportspeople from Jones County' since they're both subcategories of 'People from Jones County'?...William 10:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes it is. If they're in the 'Sportspeople from Fooville' category, they should not also be in 'People from Foo'. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:39, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
The person in question is Marc Warren (golfer). See my comments at Talk:Marc Warren (golfer), this is not a case of being in cat and sub-cat, but two distinct sub-sub-cats. Tewapack (talk) 13:32, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Happy Memorial Day!


ZappaOMati is wishing you a Happy Memorial Day! On this day, we recognize our fellow countrymen who have fought our nation's battles for the past several hundred years, protecting our freedom and safety. We remember those who paid the ultimate price and we support those who continue to willingly sacrifice their safety for the sake of their country. Happy Memorial Day!

Share this message by adding {{subst:Memorial Day}} to a fellow American's talk page.

Thanks. *renders a salute to those who serve* - The Bushranger One ping only 16:48, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

A sock or not a sock

A administrator CSD Pakistan International Airlines Flight 709 after another editor tagged it for speedy deletion because it was created by a sock of Ryan K. I'm not convinced this editor[4] is one of Ryan's socks. Yes his interests are similar(disasters) but more diversified. Maybe you want to open an SPI.

The AFD would have been a snowy delete if not for the CSD....William 15:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, I'm looking it over and I'm not sure...if you think it should go to SPI I won't object but I don't see enough to go for from my end. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

A sock or not a sock

A administrator CSD Pakistan International Airlines Flight 709 after another editor tagged it for speedy deletion because it was created by a sock of Ryan K. I'm not convinced this editor[5] is one of Ryan's socks. Yes his interests are similar(disasters) but more diversified. Maybe you want to open an SPI.

The AFD would have been a snowy delete if not for the CSD....William 15:40, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, I'm looking it over and I'm not sure...if you think it should go to SPI I won't object but I don't see enough to go for from my end. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:05, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Igor Sikorsky

BR, could you look at the Igor Sikorsky article? It has a steady stream of editors, mostly IPs, trying to change Sikorsky's nationality against the talk page consesnus. Would a long-term semi-P or PC1 be warranted here? None of these users appear interested in discussing the issue on the talk page, just promoting their own nationalism. Thanks for looking into this. - BilCat (talk) 17:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

31 IP edits since the start of the year...30 of them vandalism. Facepalm Facepalm Protected for three months. Why is it that articles like this and George de Bothezat bring out the nationalistic torch-and-pitchfork bearers? - The Bushranger One ping only 19:49, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! I don't know about George de Bothezat, but Sikorsky self-identified as Russian, was a memeber of the Russian Orthodox church, and associated with Russian immigrants. But the Ukranian nationalists still want to claim him at the exclusion of his self-chosen Russian identity. Strange! - BilCat (talk) 20:27, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
In de Bothezat's case, despite all reliable sources stating he was Russian (and the fact he was born in St. Petersburg!) his article keeps repeatedly being edited to claim that he was Romanian! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:06, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
What's next? Editors from Ireland changing JFK's and Ronald Reagan's nationalities to Irish???? - BilCat (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

User talk:MartinVillafuerte85

BR, in December, you blocked User:MartinVillafuerte85 for patterns of disruptive editing. Yesterday, a new editor, User:MartinVillafuerte (no "85"), appeared, and made this edit on the 767 page. It could be a coincidence, but I doubt it. Do we need him to make some more edits, or is this enough for block evasion? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops! I thought I had checked the new user's contributions, but I hadn't. Guess what I found? :) Compare these edits on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner page: here and there. Does this need an SPI, or is the QUACK loud enough? :) - BilCat (talk) 12:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I found a user on Spanish WP with the same name here. It's possible that with the Foundation's move to use unique unified log-ins across all WMF wikis, that this gave him access to English WP that way. - BilCat (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Likely so...and the Duck is strong in this one. Blocked as obvious. - The Bushranger One ping only 15:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

User talk:MartinVillafuerte85

BR, in December, you blocked User:MartinVillafuerte85 for patterns of disruptive editing. Yesterday, a new editor, User:MartinVillafuerte (no "85"), appeared, and made this edit on the 767 page. It could be a coincidence, but I doubt it. Do we need him to make some more edits, or is this enough for block evasion? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops! I thought I had checked the new user's contributions, but I hadn't. Guess what I found? :) Compare these edits on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner page: here and there. Does this need an SPI, or is the QUACK loud enough? :) - BilCat (talk) 12:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I found a user on Spanish WP with the same name here. It's possible that with the Foundation's move to use unique unified log-ins across all WMF wikis, that this gave him access to English WP that way. - BilCat (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Likely so...and the Duck is strong in this one. Blocked as obvious. - The Bushranger One ping only 15:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance please

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Ould Abdel Aziz. He was repatriated yesterday, and I would appreciate userification of the full history and talk page please. Geo Swan (talk) 06:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Here you go. I didn't restore the talk page as it had no content other than WikiProject banners. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt response. Geo Swan (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

User talk:MartinVillafuerte85

BR, in December, you blocked User:MartinVillafuerte85 for patterns of disruptive editing. Yesterday, a new editor, User:MartinVillafuerte (no "85"), appeared, and made this edit on the 767 page. It could be a coincidence, but I doubt it. Do we need him to make some more edits, or is this enough for block evasion? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops! I thought I had checked the new user's contributions, but I hadn't. Guess what I found? :) Compare these edits on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner page: here and there. Does this need an SPI, or is the QUACK loud enough? :) - BilCat (talk) 12:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I found a user on Spanish WP with the same name here. It's possible that with the Foundation's move to use unique unified log-ins across all WMF wikis, that this gave him access to English WP that way. - BilCat (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Likely so...and the Duck is strong in this one. Blocked as obvious. - The Bushranger One ping only 15:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance please

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Ould Abdel Aziz. He was repatriated yesterday, and I would appreciate userification of the full history and talk page please. Geo Swan (talk) 06:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Here you go. I didn't restore the talk page as it had no content other than WikiProject banners. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt response. Geo Swan (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

User talk:MartinVillafuerte85

BR, in December, you blocked User:MartinVillafuerte85 for patterns of disruptive editing. Yesterday, a new editor, User:MartinVillafuerte (no "85"), appeared, and made this edit on the 767 page. It could be a coincidence, but I doubt it. Do we need him to make some more edits, or is this enough for block evasion? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops! I thought I had checked the new user's contributions, but I hadn't. Guess what I found? :) Compare these edits on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner page: here and there. Does this need an SPI, or is the QUACK loud enough? :) - BilCat (talk) 12:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I found a user on Spanish WP with the same name here. It's possible that with the Foundation's move to use unique unified log-ins across all WMF wikis, that this gave him access to English WP that way. - BilCat (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Likely so...and the Duck is strong in this one. Blocked as obvious. - The Bushranger One ping only 15:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Help?

That IP editor needs to take a chill pill; I've dinged him for failing to AGF. I don't think you were harsh, although I will note you can't "demand" apologies - a request is fine, though. However, I'm curious as to how Werke, who suddenly reappears after six years without editing, relates to this IP editor... - The Bushranger One ping only 17:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance please

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Ould Abdel Aziz. He was repatriated yesterday, and I would appreciate userification of the full history and talk page please. Geo Swan (talk) 06:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Here you go. I didn't restore the talk page as it had no content other than WikiProject banners. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt response. Geo Swan (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to a Wicnic in Gainesville on Saturday, June 22nd

Greetings!

Seeing that you're a member of WikiProject Florida, on the off chance you're in our neck of the woods, I'm inviting you to the North Central Florida 2013 Great American Wiknic that will be on Saturday June 22, 2013, commencing at 1:00 pm, ten blocks north of UF campus in Gainesville.

If you're able and inclined to come, please RSVP at at this URL.

Type to you later, Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 13:10, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but unfortunatly I won't be able to attend. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:07, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Persistent rubbish claims

Hmm. Well, a bunch of those claims are indeed from unreliable sources, however this, this and this are reliable sources, I believe: see The Philippine Star and ABS-CBN. Of course, WP:SYNTH is still possible...I'll protect it for 48 hours so that any good data from those can be placed into the article without the forums et.al. being worked in. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

User talk:MartinVillafuerte85

BR, in December, you blocked User:MartinVillafuerte85 for patterns of disruptive editing. Yesterday, a new editor, User:MartinVillafuerte (no "85"), appeared, and made this edit on the 767 page. It could be a coincidence, but I doubt it. Do we need him to make some more edits, or is this enough for block evasion? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 12:06, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Oops! I thought I had checked the new user's contributions, but I hadn't. Guess what I found? :) Compare these edits on the Boeing 787 Dreamliner page: here and there. Does this need an SPI, or is the QUACK loud enough? :) - BilCat (talk) 12:32, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I found a user on Spanish WP with the same name here. It's possible that with the Foundation's move to use unique unified log-ins across all WMF wikis, that this gave him access to English WP that way. - BilCat (talk) 13:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Likely so...and the Duck is strong in this one. Blocked as obvious. - The Bushranger One ping only 15:33, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Your assistance please

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmed Ould Abdel Aziz. He was repatriated yesterday, and I would appreciate userification of the full history and talk page please. Geo Swan (talk) 06:48, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Here you go. I didn't restore the talk page as it had no content other than WikiProject banners. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:44, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt response. Geo Swan (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to a Wicnic in Gainesville on Saturday, June 22nd

Greetings!

Seeing that you're a member of WikiProject Florida, on the off chance you're in our neck of the woods, I'm inviting you to the North Central Florida 2013 Great American Wiknic that will be on Saturday June 22, 2013, commencing at 1:00 pm, ten blocks north of UF campus in Gainesville.

If you're able and inclined to come, please RSVP at at this URL.

Type to you later, Vincent J. Lipsio (talk) 13:10, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but unfortunatly I won't be able to attend. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:07, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Persistent rubbish claims

Hmm. Well, a bunch of those claims are indeed from unreliable sources, however this, this and this are reliable sources, I believe: see The Philippine Star and ABS-CBN. Of course, WP:SYNTH is still possible...I'll protect it for 48 hours so that any good data from those can be placed into the article without the forums et.al. being worked in. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Monika Steiner

Hi. I wanted to create a page for Monika Steiner and see that you deleted a previous page featuring her. It seems to me she has plenty of notability and I wonder if it was because of lack of appropriate citations? Thanks. The Librarian at Terminus (talk) 04:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. It was deleted as a result of this AfD; the citations that were available were determined to be self-published and/or non-reliable. If there are reliable, third-party sources that demonstrate notability, feel free to go ahead and recreate. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:02, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Help?

That IP editor needs to take a chill pill; I've dinged him for failing to AGF. I don't think you were harsh, although I will note you can't "demand" apologies - a request is fine, though. However, I'm curious as to how Werke, who suddenly reappears after six years without editing, relates to this IP editor... - The Bushranger One ping only 17:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Oviedo, Florida

Could you please page protect this article? An IP editor keeps listing someone that me and another editor don't consider notable....William 13:33, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

If only people would read the notability standards, eh? Protected for a week. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Oviedo, Florida

Could you please page protect this article? An IP editor keeps listing someone that me and another editor don't consider notable....William 13:33, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

If only people would read the notability standards, eh? Protected for a week. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:31, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

SPI

Hi, I just wanted to let you know about this SPI, since you were involved the previous time. Thanks. WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Beachsand2004. Logical Cowboy (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

This edit[6] looked like a cut and paste from Roth's website[7]. Is copying the bio section of somebody's website a copyright violation? If I was wrong to revert, I apologize. I did it in good faith....William 22:26, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Article name of the day?

Piblic Toilet? If he had kept the U and dropped the l we might have the award winner for 2013. Though Untited Tour would have provided stern competition....William 18:30, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, you know how those pibs are! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Article name of the day?

Piblic Toilet? If he had kept the U and dropped the l we might have the award winner for 2013. Though Untited Tour would have provided stern competition....William 18:30, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, you know how those pibs are! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: Emptying categories

Hi,
I understand why you reverted my edits, and I respect your decision. The goal was to actually bring a full category with no subcategories, but I guess it's better like it was before my edits. I still might add a direct link to the List of novels based on video games in each subcategory.
See you next time!
--Golden Specter (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You know, that might be a very good idea indeed. Thanks for the note and keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Newbies problem again

RE: Emptying categories

Hi,
I understand why you reverted my edits, and I respect your decision. The goal was to actually bring a full category with no subcategories, but I guess it's better like it was before my edits. I still might add a direct link to the List of novels based on video games in each subcategory.
See you next time!
--Golden Specter (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You know, that might be a very good idea indeed. Thanks for the note and keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: Emptying categories

Hi,
I understand why you reverted my edits, and I respect your decision. The goal was to actually bring a full category with no subcategories, but I guess it's better like it was before my edits. I still might add a direct link to the List of novels based on video games in each subcategory.
See you next time!
--Golden Specter (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You know, that might be a very good idea indeed. Thanks for the note and keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I was looking through your "No Spin Zone" Userboxes, and I found I agree with about 3/4ths of them, and the other 1/4th are completely opposite to my views. I was sitting there going "yep, yeah, yep... Wait, what?? Howicus (talk) 00:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Being predictable gets you eaten by ninjas! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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RE: Emptying categories

Hi,
I understand why you reverted my edits, and I respect your decision. The goal was to actually bring a full category with no subcategories, but I guess it's better like it was before my edits. I still might add a direct link to the List of novels based on video games in each subcategory.
See you next time!
--Golden Specter (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You know, that might be a very good idea indeed. Thanks for the note and keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I was looking through your "No Spin Zone" Userboxes, and I found I agree with about 3/4ths of them, and the other 1/4th are completely opposite to my views. I was sitting there going "yep, yeah, yep... Wait, what?? Howicus (talk) 00:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Being predictable gets you eaten by ninjas! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre

Hello! Now, some of you might have already received a similar message a little while ago regarding the Recruitment Centre, so if you have, there is no need to read the rest of this. This message is directed to users who have reviewed over 15 Good article nominations and are not part of WikiProject Good articles (the first message I sent out went to only WikiProject members).

So for those who haven't heard about the Recruitment Centre yet, you may be wondering why there is a Good article icon with a bunch of stars around it (to the right). The answer? WikiProject Good articles will be launching a Recruitment Centre very soon! The centre will allow all users to be taught how to review Good article nominations by experts just like you! However, in order for the Recruitment Centre to open in the first place, we need some volunteers:

  • Recruiters: The main task of a recruiter is to teach users that have never reviewed a Good article nomination how to review one. To become a recruiter, all you have to do is meet this criteria. If we don't get at least 5-10 recruiters to start off with (at the time this message was sent out, 2 recruiters have volunteered), the Recruitment Centre will not open. If interested, make sure you meet the criteria, read the process and add your name to the list of recruiters. (One of the great things about being a recruiter is that there is no set requirement of what must be taught and when. Instead, all the content found in the process section is a guideline of the main points that should be addressed during a recruitment session...you can also take an entire different approach if you wish!) If you think you will not have the time to recruit any users at this time but are still interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still add your name to the list of recruiters but just fill in the "Status" parameter with "Not Available".
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  • Nominators, please read this: If you are not interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still help. In some cases a nominator may have an issue with an "inexperienced" editor (the recruitee) reviewing one of their nominations. To minimize the chances of this happening, if you are fine with a recruitee reviewing one of your nominations under the supervision of the recruiter, please add your name to the list at the bottom of this page. By adding your name to this list, chances are that your nomination will be reviewed more quickly as the recruitee will be asked to choose a nomination from the list of nominators that are OK with them reviewing the article.

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Could you have a word with an editor?

I'm talking about Johnsmith2116. He does incomplete edits to golfer win boxes. Every weekend. Here[8], here[9], here[10], here[11], here[12], here[13], here[14], to name a few. They get in the way of editors who want to do the boxes correctly and in this case, the incomplete edit[15] was wrong and I had to go fix[16] the article's formatting. I've brought up the subject on his talk page[17], but he has ignored it....William 22:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I've dropped him a line. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: Emptying categories

Hi,
I understand why you reverted my edits, and I respect your decision. The goal was to actually bring a full category with no subcategories, but I guess it's better like it was before my edits. I still might add a direct link to the List of novels based on video games in each subcategory.
See you next time!
--Golden Specter (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You know, that might be a very good idea indeed. Thanks for the note and keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I was looking through your "No Spin Zone" Userboxes, and I found I agree with about 3/4ths of them, and the other 1/4th are completely opposite to my views. I was sitting there going "yep, yeah, yep... Wait, what?? Howicus (talk) 00:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Being predictable gets you eaten by ninjas! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre

Hello! Now, some of you might have already received a similar message a little while ago regarding the Recruitment Centre, so if you have, there is no need to read the rest of this. This message is directed to users who have reviewed over 15 Good article nominations and are not part of WikiProject Good articles (the first message I sent out went to only WikiProject members).

So for those who haven't heard about the Recruitment Centre yet, you may be wondering why there is a Good article icon with a bunch of stars around it (to the right). The answer? WikiProject Good articles will be launching a Recruitment Centre very soon! The centre will allow all users to be taught how to review Good article nominations by experts just like you! However, in order for the Recruitment Centre to open in the first place, we need some volunteers:

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Could you have a word with an editor?

I'm talking about Johnsmith2116. He does incomplete edits to golfer win boxes. Every weekend. Here[18], here[19], here[20], here[21], here[22], here[23], here[24], to name a few. They get in the way of editors who want to do the boxes correctly and in this case, the incomplete edit[25] was wrong and I had to go fix[26] the article's formatting. I've brought up the subject on his talk page[27], but he has ignored it....William 22:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I've dropped him a line. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: Emptying categories

Hi,
I understand why you reverted my edits, and I respect your decision. The goal was to actually bring a full category with no subcategories, but I guess it's better like it was before my edits. I still might add a direct link to the List of novels based on video games in each subcategory.
See you next time!
--Golden Specter (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You know, that might be a very good idea indeed. Thanks for the note and keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I was looking through your "No Spin Zone" Userboxes, and I found I agree with about 3/4ths of them, and the other 1/4th are completely opposite to my views. I was sitting there going "yep, yeah, yep... Wait, what?? Howicus (talk) 00:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Being predictable gets you eaten by ninjas! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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Could you have a word with an editor?

I'm talking about Johnsmith2116. He does incomplete edits to golfer win boxes. Every weekend. Here[28], here[29], here[30], here[31], here[32], here[33], here[34], to name a few. They get in the way of editors who want to do the boxes correctly and in this case, the incomplete edit[35] was wrong and I had to go fix[36] the article's formatting. I've brought up the subject on his talk page[37], but he has ignored it....William 22:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I've dropped him a line. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: Emptying categories

Hi,
I understand why you reverted my edits, and I respect your decision. The goal was to actually bring a full category with no subcategories, but I guess it's better like it was before my edits. I still might add a direct link to the List of novels based on video games in each subcategory.
See you next time!
--Golden Specter (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You know, that might be a very good idea indeed. Thanks for the note and keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
I was looking through your "No Spin Zone" Userboxes, and I found I agree with about 3/4ths of them, and the other 1/4th are completely opposite to my views. I was sitting there going "yep, yeah, yep... Wait, what?? Howicus (talk) 00:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Being predictable gets you eaten by ninjas! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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So for those who haven't heard about the Recruitment Centre yet, you may be wondering why there is a Good article icon with a bunch of stars around it (to the right). The answer? WikiProject Good articles will be launching a Recruitment Centre very soon! The centre will allow all users to be taught how to review Good article nominations by experts just like you! However, in order for the Recruitment Centre to open in the first place, we need some volunteers:

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Could you have a word with an editor?

I'm talking about Johnsmith2116. He does incomplete edits to golfer win boxes. Every weekend. Here[38], here[39], here[40], here[41], here[42], here[43], here[44], to name a few. They get in the way of editors who want to do the boxes correctly and in this case, the incomplete edit[45] was wrong and I had to go fix[46] the article's formatting. I've brought up the subject on his talk page[47], but he has ignored it....William 22:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I've dropped him a line. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: Emptying categories

Hi,
I understand why you reverted my edits, and I respect your decision. The goal was to actually bring a full category with no subcategories, but I guess it's better like it was before my edits. I still might add a direct link to the List of novels based on video games in each subcategory.
See you next time!
--Golden Specter (talk) 09:56, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

You know, that might be a very good idea indeed. Thanks for the note and keep up the good work! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Newbies problem again

Yeah, User:HonerableHerb definitely smells like a sock, and was certainly trolling. A likely old stalker, in any event. - BilCat (talk) 10:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
  • He's allowed to remove those comments without comment (in fact, I need to caution you not to add them back unless you want to get dinged for WP:3RR). If he resumes when the block expires, it'll be indef time, but for now, there's nothing to do here. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:41, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Yes, an editor blanking or removing comments from their own talk page is admitting they've read them. Btw, BR, Disonerable herbie is trying to stir up trouble here. Time for a sockhunt yet? The name is a bit reminiscent of Chaka the not so great. - BilCat (talk) 03:47, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
It probably isn't him, but any excuse to run a check-user. :) -BilCat (talk) 04:09, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Of course! - BilCat (talk) 06:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Good news: Herbie has been dishonorably discharged from WP. - BilCat (talk) 14:22, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

I think I may found the sockmaster for Geeciii: User:Gcguevarra - get it? Geeciii = Gc! There are some pages both have edited on, though not a lot. Is this enough for a Checkuser/SPI? - BilCat (talk) 14:32, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I gotta concur with Bill, Gcguevarra stinks to high heaven with the smell of his dirty hands, and socks now. Time to interrogate his smelly footsleeves? Or should we just proceed with SPI, given that the former was blocked around 9 May and the latter started to show up on our radar a few days after, on 13 May... the chances are high that both are the same. TBR, your thoughts? --Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 15:17, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
  •  Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me. After looking through the contribution histories I agree 100% that Geecii = Gcguevarra. The editing interests overlap nearly entirely and there are spelling/grammar telltales in the edit summaries that are red flags...and both Geecii and Gcguevarra suddenly this very afternoon posted "I want to delete my account on Wikipedia" messages on their pages. I've gone deaf. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:20, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

End of the story: Part Deux?

Not sure about this one. It's a shame that the Phil articles are getting to be like the Indian ones used to be with Chanyaka, everyone new suspected because of so much socking. :( - The Bushranger One ping only 21:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Mopping up operation

I was looking through your "No Spin Zone" Userboxes, and I found I agree with about 3/4ths of them, and the other 1/4th are completely opposite to my views. I was sitting there going "yep, yeah, yep... Wait, what?? Howicus (talk) 00:19, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Being predictable gets you eaten by ninjas! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:14, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Recruitment Centre

Hello! Now, some of you might have already received a similar message a little while ago regarding the Recruitment Centre, so if you have, there is no need to read the rest of this. This message is directed to users who have reviewed over 15 Good article nominations and are not part of WikiProject Good articles (the first message I sent out went to only WikiProject members).

So for those who haven't heard about the Recruitment Centre yet, you may be wondering why there is a Good article icon with a bunch of stars around it (to the right). The answer? WikiProject Good articles will be launching a Recruitment Centre very soon! The centre will allow all users to be taught how to review Good article nominations by experts just like you! However, in order for the Recruitment Centre to open in the first place, we need some volunteers:

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  • Co-Director: The current Director for the centre is me (Dom497). Another user that would be willing to help with some of the tasks would be helpful. Tasks include making sure recruiters are doing what they should be (teaching!), making sure all recruitments are archived correctly, updating pages as needed, answering any questions, and distributing the feedback form. If interested, please contact me (Dom497).
  • Nominators, please read this: If you are not interested in becoming a recruiter, you can still help. In some cases a nominator may have an issue with an "inexperienced" editor (the recruitee) reviewing one of their nominations. To minimize the chances of this happening, if you are fine with a recruitee reviewing one of your nominations under the supervision of the recruiter, please add your name to the list at the bottom of this page. By adding your name to this list, chances are that your nomination will be reviewed more quickly as the recruitee will be asked to choose a nomination from the list of nominators that are OK with them reviewing the article.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. I look forward to seeing this program bring new reviewers to the Good article community and all the positive things it will bring along.

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This message was sent out by --EdwardsBot (talk) 14:43, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Could you have a word with an editor?

I'm talking about Johnsmith2116. He does incomplete edits to golfer win boxes. Every weekend. Here[48], here[49], here[50], here[51], here[52], here[53], here[54], to name a few. They get in the way of editors who want to do the boxes correctly and in this case, the incomplete edit[55] was wrong and I had to go fix[56] the article's formatting. I've brought up the subject on his talk page[57], but he has ignored it....William 22:21, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I've dropped him a line. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Moldova

I noticed that you contributed to the discussion of Category:1857 establishments in Pakistan. An if anything worse case has developed with the discussion of Category:1939 establishments in Moldova. The people advocating for this category are ignoring that there was a Category:1939 establishments in the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, that this category under discussion was previously renamed to that, and that that category became empty because the one thing in that category was not established in the Moldavian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic but in Romania. They are essentially attacking me for insisting that we should not put in a Soviet Union category something established in Romania. They seem intent on ignoring what I have actually said, and acting like there was no entity in 1939 called Moldova, when it is fairly clear that in 1939 the term would have been understood to refer to the MASSR, and that to categorize things not in the MASSR is to ignore reality. Maybe I should just sit back and wait, but neither of the commenters exhibit any attempt to have read what I wrote, and their attacking me for emptying something from a category where it clearly did not belong is really frustrating.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:35, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunatly things like this tend to be...shall we say, highly passionate in certain quarters. What I'd suggest in future situations like this is to WP:BOLDly move the contents of a recreated, clearly duplictious category to the correct one, and then make the "wrongly named" category a category redirect to the correct one. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:00, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
As long as he realizes that such an approach will probably result in a bold reversion. </passion>. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:40, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry User:Gcguevarra and User:Geeciii

You might want to take a look at IP 66.87.83.174 too, or keep an eye on it, because it interacted intimately with User:Geeciii and User:HonerableHerb on 8-9 June, but hasn't been seen after that. Or before that, for that matter. Thomas.W (talk) 18:40, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. That looks to be a dynamic IP... - The Bushranger One ping only 18:41, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Islamicdaayee

Hi, I hope its ok to ask for your help here. I wonder if you could check out this user it seems like he has made this his personal resume page. (Or possibly advertising for speaking engagements) He even has his phone number on it. Capitalismojo (talk) 19:25, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

The same content has been speedy deleted off his userpage multiple times. I've tagged his talk page for speedy deletion as well now, although blanking and then indef blocking might be better. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
Actually, he's already indef'd. Reset with talk page access revoked. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:53, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Request to userfy University of Houston Creative Writing Program

Hi Bushranger!

My name is Angelica and I'm writing to ask for your help. I saw that the article for University of Houston Creative Writing Program was deleted, and I am aware of the issues with the article. I believe though the article can be improved, and I think several points weren't brought up at the deletion discussion because no one with any knowledge about the program bothered to look for sources. I have found books about the program:

https://www.google.com/search?q=university+of+houston+Creative+Writing+Program+&rlz=1C1TSNF_enUS454US454&oq=university+of+houston+Creative+Writing+Program+&aqs=chrome.0.59l2j60j62l3.3682j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=university+of+houston+Creative+Writing+Program&rlz=1C1TSNF_enUS454US454&source=lnms&tbm=bks&sa=X&ei=6vS8UfaqGo-hiAfuloGwBA&ved=0CA4Q_AUoAg&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47883778,d.aGc&fp=93eed9ed8287e27e&biw=1241&bih=551

as well as web sources

http://www.pw.org/files/topfifty_secured.pdf http://www.pw.org/files/doctoral_secured_0.pdf

and news sources in the Houston Chronicle, HoustonPress, Huffington Post, Associated Press etc.

In short, I think if I worked on it a little bit with some help on formatting, we could show this is notable in a wikipedia sense.

Also, I talked to another editor, JohnCD and he mentioned issues with its long lists. I am willing to help reformat that information in an article format so that it isn't just an indiscriminate list of information, but a pared down article about relevant people.

I am wondering if you would be willing to userfy it on a sub-page on my user space. I would be really interested in working with you to make sure it meets WP's standard of notability, at which point you could re-instate the article.

Thanks in advance! Angelica G. Onthedeck (talk) 23:21, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I've restored the page to your userspace here. One thing you might wish to consider though is whether any of the content might be better included in the main article on the university, instead of in a seperate article. Either way, good luck! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:56, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
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