User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights/Archive 9

User:Maxi1992

The user continues to created unreferenced BLPs (eg. Miguel Angel Gamondi and Alain Michel, despite your warning [1]. Also, he tags every edit as minor, when almost all of his edits are not minor. User clearly still doesn't understand the basics of creating BLP's and referencing. Please do something about it, I'm getting fed up with cleaning up after him every single day. Thanks. TonyStarks (talk) 06:30, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, indeffing now. User needs to acknowledge all the problems that have been raised, and warnings don't seem to have helped. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 09:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

PC RfC result

*Tips cap* Can't have been an easy decision, but I commend you and your fellow closing admins for taking on the task of closing the RfC. Helps that I supported the option that was chosen in the end, too. ;) —Strange Passerby (t × c) 03:26, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and perfect timing; you got me about 2 minutes after I archived my talkpage. I'll say that it was quite an experience. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:28, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I've congratulated User:Fluffernutter already, so I should probably congratulate you and the other closers too. I'm glad you took as much time as needed to close it properly. It's more important that we get these kinds of things right than we hurry the process too much. Thanks for closing an RfC on an important issue that, well, it isn't exactly controversy-free. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:43, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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It appears that you have prevented me from contributing. Why? My talk page says "This account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia." It seems to say that you have blocked me.

I am new to wikipedia. I would like to contribute in my field. Perhaps I am just confused about how things work here.

Can you please help me?

Best Regards,

Dave (D.L.) Robertson (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: Your RfA nomination statement

I received your email and wanted to say go ahead. SwisterTwister talk 02:48, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Would you please transclude the nomination for me? I visited the "nominate" page but continued having troubles. SwisterTwister talk 21:36, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Nair ban

Your comment here doesn't seem to quite align with your log entry here. The former has the appearance that VS is banned fro Nair article + talk, while the latter appears to include cats, user talk etc. Or am I being dense? - Sitush (talk) 16:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

No, the density is with me. Let me rectify that. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

No worries. That's user's pedantic style is rubbing off on me! - Sitush (talk) 17:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Pending Changes Protection Requested

I don't know if you're able to add it yet but, could you PC-level 2 protect my bots run pages. I know it's not supposed to go live until December but I don't see any harm in doing so as they are not public pages.—cyberpower ^Chat_Absent 03:23, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Deleted article "Jihae" question

Hi Blade of the Northern Lights, I have a question about an article you marked for deletion several months back, "Jihae". I want to resubmit it with proper sourcing, but I can't find a copy of the article on my own computer. Is there any way to recover the content of the article so I can make edits where necessary, rather than just starting from scratch? I'm having trouble finding information in the documentation, so I'd really appreciate your advice. Thanks! - trafficattic trafficattic (talk) 12:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for moving it to my page. I've updated the Jihae article to include a print source. Would you mind taking a look at it? If it looks good, I'd like to re-publish it. Again, thanks for all your help. Trafficattic (talk) 20:45, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

WT:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2012

Anything I've said so far you'd like to push back against? Any preferences for things you do or don't want me to talk about in the near future? - Dank (push to talk) 00:59, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Nothing that I've seen so far, really. I'll take a closer look once my Yankees finish off the Indians, but I can't think of anything I've read yet that I don't agree with. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:09, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Blade, hope I'm not disturbing your thread here (and feel free to move it if it is), but my comment's related to the same topic.

I noticed you seemed rather pissed off in the reply you gave me to my comment after the close. Granted, I certainly didn't pull any punches in what I said, either, so I'm not getting after you for that, just hoping for something that'll help me get it. I don't really recognize DQ, but all the other names I saw on that close (you, Dank, and Fluffernutter) would be about as close to who I'd hand pick to close a tough discussion, because you're all very levelheaded and have excellent judgment. So I was rather astonished to see a close that seemed to be for a different discussion than the one it appeared above. I don't think that's just because I was against the result, either—I've seen discussions go against me before, but agreed that they indeed did. Dank's comment regarding fear of admins being a primary factor makes me even more curious. Taking the first 20 comments in each section as a sample, both option 1 and option 2 had 6 sysops (who presumably do not fear sysops) of 20 commenting, and I don't think the ratio's that different for the rest of the discussion. At a very casual look, I even saw a couple arbitrators commenting in option 1—not exactly people you'd expect to have that kind of fear. I saw that as a very minor point.

I was also rather disappointed in the structure of the RfC, where bulleting was encouraged and discussion was not. Something this big should've been primarily a discussion, and rather than having a default and a deadline, if we can't come to consensus on how to use this thing, we shouldn't use it. There wasn't, like normal RfCs, a chance to add new positions that better expressed one's unique views, but rather more a "ballot question." Risker's concerns that clear issues with PC were not brought up during the discussion were germane to this—essentially, "Too broken to use" (which would be best phrased as "Fix it before we'll use it") wasn't even permitted as an option. Whether or not the Foundation would do it, people should've been able to state that as their desired position. If people wanted it fixed before enabling, and the Foundation was unwilling to fix, that would mean that either A: Someone or someones would have to volunteer to do the fixes (it is open source, after all), or B: We won't use it. Instead, a determination seemed to have been made that the Foundation is the only possible maintainer of open-source software, and what was previously a very popular option ("Seriously flawed, fix before any possible use") was totally suppressed.

Anyway, like I said there, I'm not trying to get this overturned—never be consensus for such, so it'd be a waste of time. What I would like to be able to do is to learn from this experience, so that perhaps we can design the next big RfC so that people don't get out of it with the impression of being hit by a steamroller, and to that end we can perhaps have more discussion/less voting. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 06:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll respond to the rest tomorrow, but I'll say now my response was intended to be tension- breaking, not tension making; I have a sense of humor, and I was trying to be a bit facetious (though I actually did read that). Sorry that didn't come off right; I have no objection to anything you said there. Bluntness is somewhat refreshing at times, and nothing here on Wikipedia gets me too worked up. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい)

No troubles, such is communicating in text. And I won't argue on bluntness, either—I certainly don't mind if people are nice but honest, but I'd rather have someone straight off tell me to fuck myself than think so but not say so. I will be interested to read the rest of your response when you have the time to post it. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 06:55, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

We don't know for sure yet who the closers are ... by convention, people should be given a week to respond to anything ... so I'm going to wait til Saturday before I respond on the "admin culture" point. - Dank (push to talk) 11:46, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, the rest of my response. First, I'll start by agreeing with Dank above. Also, the structure of the RfC wasn't our work, it was the idea of Beeblebrox; we probably could have changed it, but we didn't. The "improve it first" option wasn't available because the devs said they weren't going to put more work into it until and unless the community here indicated they were going to use it. I don't know if anyone would be able/willing to work on the platform outside of the WMF, although in hindsight we could have asked. I also learned, somewhat the hard way if you remember, that pissing off the devs isn't a good idea, so we didn't want to do anything that might lead to that result (and that's also why we picked November 1 and December 1 as dates; the devs didn't want to be working on this over the holiday season). As to people stating their positions; I actually thought that worked out reasonably well, as it didn't seem like anyone felt so constrained that they felt their arguments were truncated. We also did have the discussion section, which again in hindsight I think we should have put above the actual voting; not the typical way of doing it, but it couldn't have hurt to try. And finally, the close (the part that most directly involved me). It was a pretty close call for all of us, though we independently seemed to reach the same conclusions. Now that I've stepped back from it for a few days, I do think the closing statement makes the consensus appear a little stronger than the RfC shows. Our thinking was that it'd be better to write something that looked more definitive; if it was too delicate, we were afraid that would lead to questions of whether we really meant what we wrote and/or people demanding a new RfC with a more definitive close (or something fairly similar). I hope that at least clarifies things a bit. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:00, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I've been trying to think of what we might do to keep things moving over the next 4 months, and increase the chances of a favorable reaction to our close, but with maximum guidance from the participants and minimum guidance from us. I'm going to react to what's going on from time to time; the clearer I can be, the fewer "Where did that come from?" comments I'm going to get after our final closing statement. Feel free to adopt a different style. I'm not going to push anything that you're not comfortable with, including in the final closing statement.

I don't think we've done this before on Wikipedia, but then, I don't think we've ever done a good job of un-fubar'ing totally fubar'ed processes, so it's time to experiment. I'm thinking of encouraging people to create a page in either the form WP:PC/(your username) (with a commitment to at least participate in the main threads that arise there), or in the form User:(Username)/PC (with a commitment to moderate discussions that arise there in a responsible and effective way). These pages, not the main talk page, are the ones that I'd prefer to look at when trying to decide which positions seem to have enough momentum to warrant a mini-vote. That puts the burden on the participants, if they want to be heard, to take the initiative in arguing their positions and in offering reasonable compromises on the main talk page designed to attract more discussion to their personal page. Thoughts? - Dank (push to talk) 18:50, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I think the subpage idea is great, because that will help make it clear exactly who's saying what. It'll make our lives that much easier, and I think other people will generally appreciate it. Your suggestion about closing and how to respond is also a good idea, in the interest of both transparency and clarity. Hopefully that will lead to less general gnashing of teeth; no guarantee it will, but it's worth trying; better to try and have it fail once than never to try at all. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:04, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Level one user warnings

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Level one user warnings. (This invitation sent because you signed up as a member of WP:UWTEST) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC) Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 18:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Kunbi

Please could you advise an appropriate remedy for the tendentious anon contributions at Kunbi. The contributor(s) is using the 117.269.* range but with 117.269.67,*, 117.269.68.* and 117.269.69.* all in the mix it is my uninformed guess that the range is too big to block. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 09:58, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

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Do I hear crickets?

There's been little activity so far over at the PC talk page other than criticizing what went on the past ... It's Canada Day today and July 4 in, well, 3 days :) ... so I'm not worried, but if we don't get much activity for a week or so, then I have to consider becoming more pro-active. At some level of activity, then either I should back off and let you close, or we could both become more active, try to push things forward, and then turn the process over to other closers to run an RFC after inviting the larger community to approve or disapprove of ... whatever we've got ... before Nov 1. I'm easy. - Dank (push to talk) 17:20, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, we've got a little more activity. Adjwilley was fielding a question about what the devs would allow; my understanding is that you guys and Beeble were in contact with the devs at various points, and that the devs will be making whatever changes we need ... as long as we only ask once. Is that your understanding? - Dank (push to talk) 21:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. They'll make enhancements to fit with the policy we put in place, and what those should be will be the subject of the discussions over the next several months; when the community has hashed those out, we go and make our requests of them. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

One more quick thing since I see you're talking over there ... check out my last comment at Getting started. Does that look okay? - Dank (push to talk) 16:19, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks fine to me, yeah. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

GLAM Night Out at Wikimania

On the night of Thursday 12 July in DC at the Newseum near the Wikimania conference, Consumer Reports and the GLAM-Wiki US Consortium are hosting a social event and a panel on health information and Wikipedia. I would like to invite you to attend. Please RSVP here if you want to attend either or both the social event or the panel. I am sorry you could not attend the NYC Wikimedia election and I hope that I can meet you at the DC conference. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:19, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.

Thanks for the extra help.

I appreciate it!

Dave (D.L.) Robertson (talk) 03:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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Six months is completely absurd.

The guy who said this is my first real warning was right. Before, with the incident involving Cooper, the issue was repeaded editing. And what we were editing over had NOTHING TO DO WITH AA. This time it was about expressing opinion in edit summarys. No one ever really told me I shouldn't do that, they just linked a page to rules without explaining which one I was breaking. Six months is unfairly wrong and I'd like it to be much shorter or none at all, which would make sense because three days is plenty for a first offense. Am I still able to edit the talk pages of AA articles? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 20:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

The only problem I see was I voiced my opinion in the summary. Besides that, there was nothing wrong with my edit. It was actually an older edit, but after some time azeris began to put speculation (or more acctuaratly, denial) that the chess player said anything racist. They imply he was wrongly quoted but there's no proof to that anywhere. Grandmaster even told me in a previous debate that we have to go with the reference even if have have reason to believe it's wrong. So no, I don't see any problem. This was the first offense I have had on a AA page and to ban me for six months over it is completely zealous. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate all of your comments. Zagalejo^^^ 06:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Appeal

I don't see where I'm supposed to do that. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 18:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

"please copy the text below to the appropriate forum"

Where is that? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 18:41, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I know, I was already on that page, that's how I quoted it. I thought it wanted me to copy the template nd put it somewhere else. Do I just have to fill it out on that page and that's it? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 18:49, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm bolding this so you can see it better. Below is what I have so far. It appears something is wrong with the Sanction being appealed part. I don't know what to put. Do you? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 02:43, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

RfArb

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Pending Changes RfC close and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Requests for Arbitration;
• Wikipedia:Arbitration guide.

Thanks,

TheShadowCrow's arbitration enforcement action appeal

For your information and to complete his submission, I am notifying you of the appeal which is now located at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by TheShadowCrow. CT Cooper · talk 11:55, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

AE

You have some familiarity with the involved parties. Comments appreciated. Ankh.Morpork 16:25, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your recent active involvement at AE; it is very much appreciated. If you have time could you clarify why you are of the view that JJG should be topic banned as the comments in this AE baffle me. Ankh.Morpork 23:21, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

EDIT BAN

I'm sorry but I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, to suggest an edit ban when I haven't violated any revert rules or anything of the sort? Am I missing something? Ottomanist (talk) 01:31, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Incase you missed it:

• I said: "Regarding the actual criticism: I requested arbitration for the Albania page before, right here, following procedures. I also tried to contact the user in a friendly manner my self to try and resolve the issues. As for the Serbia page, we had a good discussion which didn't go Athenean's way. I am not on here to perpetuate nationalist myths, and if this means debunking nationalist claims, then so be it."

-Ottomanist (talk) 01:38, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Moreover, the Albania page is also in the process of being arbitrated. The Serbia page also ended with a long discussion. The main points of contention seem to be my edits on the Greeks page, which, again, is properly sourced. I personally think you've been very rash with your judgment without even reviewing what I said or having a look properly at the case made against me. All you saw was many diffs without the actual content and many hours spent discussing with many users about many different subjects. - Ottomanist (talk) 01:47, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

All I'm saying is that I would like a fair chance to remain a committed user in this wonderful wikipedia project without having my name tarnished. - Ottomanist (talk) 01:57, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

You don't sound like the cavalier kind of guy, though unfortunately you've prejudiced my chances quite a bit with what I consider a rash comment preceded by three rather unfavourable (!) users' comments. You also sound smart enough to understand the ramifications of that. I genuinly hope that perhaps you will be able to somehow remedy this. Good day - Ottomanist (talk) 02:08, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

After reviewing the ARBCOM page concerning the Balkans, it seems as though your suggestion is so extreme when considering the things I am accused of (which, if followed through by clicking on the links provided by the said user who opened the case, will reveal nothing of the magnitude suggestive in the opening remarks). Again, I urge you to consider your statements in light of both my comments on the case page and to you personally. Suggesting a three-to-six-month-ban is looking like an extreme overreaction. - Ottomanist (talk) 02:23, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Such a suggestion is, to say the least, very intimidating. - Ottomanist (talk) 02:27, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

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Flyer22 (talk) 22:19, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Interaction ban

You said you were not sure something else shouldn't be done as well in the interaction ban discussion. Do you mean that I should be topic banned or what?--RJR3333 (talk) 02:48, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

If I knew, I'd say it, but I'm not sure yet. When I finish examining things, I'll see what, if anything, I think is warranted. I do a lot of this sort of thing, so I tend to be able to come up with the least draconian, most effective solution to a problem. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:23, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Flyer22 says that virtually all of my edits to the age of consent/age of majority articles have been bad. However, I think it is only my edits to the Chris Hansen article and the To Catch a Predator article that were bad. I think most of my edits in the age of consent and age of majority articles were good. And in the marriageable age article I added a lot of citations for previously unsourced statements. So perhaps an article ban from the Chris Hansen article and the To Catch a Predator article would be more appropriate than completely banning me from the age of consent articles. --RJR3333 (talk) 05:07, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I did not state that virtually all of your edits to the age of consent/age of majority articles have been bad; I've barely interacted with you on those articles. How many times do you have to be told to stop speaking about me? And to especially stop speaking about me if you are not going to report things accurately? Stop it already. Flyer22 (talk) 08:58, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I understand that you don't want me speaking of you, but at the same time you are the primary editor, other than Malke, who hasn't really been here since May, who has criticized my work. I'm trying to point out that someone has a problem with my edits, I don't want to cause offense to you, but how else am I supposed to communicate about the issue. And you have said before that MOST of my edits to the age of consent/age of majority articles were bad, you told Legitimus "I don't know what to do about RJR3333's edits at the age of consent articles, they are erratic, sloppy, careless, and unsourced" and I believe you did not qualify any of those statements with "sometimes" or "usually" and you said you were considering a topic ban for me, you didn't only say an article ban for those two articles, something which incidentally I have already basically agreed to. --RJR3333 (talk) 09:05, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

The point is that I did not state "virtually all of your edits to the age of consent/age of majority articles have been bad." When stating "People eat pizza," does that need to be qualified with "some"? That is a no. Except for those whose competency ability is significantly diminished, no one is going to think that all people eat pizza.

There is no need for us to interact until there is a need. You have been trying to get me to interact with you because I stated that I was considering to propose a topic ban on you, and, before that, barred you from my talk page. You acted like I had already proposed a topic ban or that my belief that you should be topic banned should be debated between us or taken to the Wikipedia community. If I had proposed one at the appropriate venue -- Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents -- it would have been even more inappropriate for you to go around asking others about this. That type of WP:CANVASSING is a no-no, even with you not asking anyone to take your side. And as you were told at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard, it is my right to believe what I want. I didn't have to debate this with you. And there was no issue of a topic ban because I had not proposed one. But, no, in the days before that, you just had to go berserk, pushing and pushing, and finally forcing my hand to discuss something that I quite obviously did not want to discuss at this time. If ever. And don't state that "I didn't have to comment." Yes, I did! Because it concerns me and our interactions. Instead of a topic ban, you took the matter to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents after an interaction ban was suggested on my talk page by an editor. Not to mention, you proposed article bans on yourself at another noticeboard, even though the issue is still going on at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents...which is why the latter instance was shut down. If it's not already apparent to you, I don't like discussing anything with you. And you have no one but yourself to blame for that. My tolerance level for you has dropped exponentially because of your actions this past week. You just don't know when to stop, no matter how many times I or others point out your WP:DEADHORSE antics. Here you are again, having brought me up on yet another editor's talk page and are using that editor's talk page to debate me yet again. You couldn't just leave it at what The Blade of the Northern Lights stated. You just had to take this time to comment on our disputes at another talk page. The only reason you haven't been blocked several times over is because the To Catch a Predator and age of consent articles are not highly-watched articles. I don't want to read your "I don't want to cause offense to you" contention. Because, quite frankly, it's bull crap. Either that, or it's more of your WP:COMPETENCE issues showing. Flyer22 (talk) 11:40, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I came here from something I saw elsewhere concerning RJR3333, and with due respect to Blade and his talk page, I'm going to add my two cents here. The first thing in all the dialogues and actions between you two, and the comments about you both, is the undeniable lack of maturity that you both display. My advice to either and/or both of you, is to really take a Wikibreak until you have grown up and can come back and behave like the kind of mature adults who engage in serious activities such as building an encyclopedia. Threats to retire will almost invariably be met with 'Go on then, what are you waiting for?' So please leave the schoolyard mentality off this project, and if either or both of you already happen to have reached the age of majority, then shame on you both, we need editors who can lead by example - good example. Let's please not hear ANYMORE of it, here or anywhere else and before blocs and bans, or talk of them start flying about - there are more important things to be done. Thanks. Kudpung (talk) 12:10, 7 July 2012

Kudpung, I can understand your dismay at the above. But I don't believe that I have been immature on this matter or that I need some extensive Wikibreak, as has been made clear (and is still being made clear) by other editors regarding RJR3333's behavior during our interactions. I have no doubt that most editors in my position would have responded to him in the same manner after having been, and still being, subjected to what he has subjected me to this past week. There is a time for civility and there is a time to tell an editor to stop the bull crap, which is what I did above. And if by threats of retiring, you mean my "considering to retire" tag on my user page and talk page, that is not a threat. I have not made any "threat" to leave. There is no WP:DIVA on my part in the least. The only person out of the two of us who has repeatedly claimed "I'm going to leave" has been RJR3333, and he did leave for a few months. But, as you can see, he is back. And according to most others, he has been back in a most disruptive manner (especially regarding his interaction with me). I am not the one who needs a lecture on how to act appropriately/work with others on Wikipedia. Flyer22 (talk) 19:38, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I crafted the text of the above message to address both of you on an "if the cap fits' basis. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:54, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

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RFA

Hello, I read the listing that you are one of about 20 people who are willing to nominate others for RFA. I also notice that you take particular exception to those who are New Page Patrollers. I create articles here and there, but other than that, my edits are all from the NPP Keystoneridin (speak) 02:51, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

NPP vs User retention

FYI, and the thread that immediately follows it. I may bring this up in DC. Any advice? --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:34, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Powder Hound 3000

What's the connection between the accounts? That unblock request has been sitting there for several days. I'm inclined to decline it but I can't see the connection between it and the alleged sockmaster (Feel free to use email if you want to keep that confidential). Daniel Case (talk) 15:16, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

My attention was first drawn to Powder Hound 3000 during this AE request against ZScarpia. Basically, both accounts pushed the same POV, and both of them tried to use AE as a bludgeon against their opponents. After looking into Nableezy's comment, I found some remarkable similarities and decided the two were almost certainly connected. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:23, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

The connection goes a bit deeper than that. Here goes:

You can see his continuing obsession with Ceedjee, as seen in the SPIs opened as Foo Bar Buzz Netz, (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Noisetier/Archive), his discussions with FT2 as HupHollandHup (here) which FT2 later referenced. This latest sock has taken to tagging Ceedjee's user page and a newly registered account by that user (here and here) as well as follow the new account around to revert him (here and here) Another connection is the coordinated reverting with other NoCal socks:

Two for the show: [2]

Powder Hound 3000: [3]

Two for the show: [4]

Also compare Powder Hound and Rym torch. Let me know if you need anything beyond that. nableezy - 16:28, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Marketing person

Re your comment at Talk:Auslogics Duplicate File Finder. If you look at the author's contributions (TaraSwimms (talk · contribs)), it consists mostly of writing articles that promote Auslogics, which seems to be a non-notable small 5-person firm according to LinkedIn. There are several of these articles in the A7 speedy delete category right now, although A7 doesn't really work if the topics aren't web content. I am very close to indef blocking this account, as it seems to have the sole purpose of writing ads masquerading as articles, but what holds me back is the fact that the articles are decent and squeak by WP:CORP. ~Amatulić (talk) 18:47, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Hrmm... I'd probably support an indef at this point, for the reasons you gave above. As to the articles, I think they unfortunately don't qualify for A7, but at least some of them should probably be sent to AfD; I'll sort through them and nominate on a case-by-case basis. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 18:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Let's wait and see. I asked the editor about the apparent COI. He or she is capable of writing decent articles, so it would be nice if that talent could be harnessed for other topics. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:17, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Fine with me. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:20, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Death of Azaria Chamberlain

The discussion of the hatnote ought not to have been "closed as keep" when there was a sensitive issue surrounding it. The discussion had been moved to another page. Ther appears to be a consensus that the Hatnote is offensive to the living and needs deletion. Biographies of living persons noticeboard. 01:56, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I closed the RfD; if you don't like my close, you know what to do. I'm not convinced of any BLP issues, and in the discussion at BLPN I saw no consensus to that effect. I pretty much entirely agreed with the keep votes at the RfD, so that'll suffice for my rationale. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:06, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Even though the arguments in favour of the Keep were as stupid as "There is no absolute proof that the family would be offended"?

All we need is a little human decency. If the "Biographies of living persons" policy isn't to protect people like the Chamberlains, then who is it for? The fact that the offensive matter is in a hatnote, rather than the txt of the article, ought not make any difference.

The person who has made the most ridiculous justifications in favour of keeping the hatnote (see above) is the person who added it in the first place.

It is almost beyond my comprehension that people can be warned that what they have done is giving offence, and then be so absolutely determined to maintain it when there is so little to be gained by it.

Try weighing the value of the hatnote against the potential to give offence to the family. The value of the hatnote is so slight, given that the two words "baby and dingo" in the Wikipedia search engine will bring up this article, that it is pointless to keep it. There are plenty of argument or keeping it. But not a single good argument.

Amandajm (talk) 02:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Look, as I said there I really don't care that much about this. I only thought I should bring it up somewhere because I closed an RfD, and it seemed the consensus was that there were no BLP concerns; that was the next logical step to me. My views on BLP are obviously very different from yours, as I think a hatnote on a Wikipedia article is about the least of the Chamberlain's concerns, but we're allowed to disagree. Arguments appealing to ethos are the weakest types, because they vary so much from person to person; my views on Wikipedia ethics are more consistent with Robber Zhi (whose article desperately needs to be written, and I may do just that fairly soon) than Kongzi, and that's something we won't see eye to eye on. That's why I started a discussion on the talkpage, so I could get other opinions before doing anything. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:05, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you

		The Holy Lance
		For a block worthy of a saint. Ian.thomson (talk) 04:58, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! It's been a while since my last crucifixion, and I thought tonight would be as good a time as any. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 05:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

message

Hi

I have placed in charge of writing a new article for Medicina Mexico. I will make sure that the article conforms to Wilkipedia standards. I will also make sure that their exists no spam or unauthorized linkage.

Can you please move the old article to my sandbox so I can work on it.

Thank you for your anticipated help. Also, can I call upon you for assistance when I need help?

Samuel Samuelmeza (talk) 08:48, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

WT:PC2012

Check out the section YRC started at WT:PC2012/Dank#Closer?. I would prefer to avoid even a hint of procedural problems. How would you feel about the two of us closing a series of votes on narrow, targeted questions, and then letting me back away completely at the end of September so that I don't participate in a final RfC in October that approves, disapproves or modifies any of the results that have come before? Inserting a "final approval" stage might possibly lower the volume during the mini-votes, and would deal with the objection that a closer was too involved in the discussions. If you like this plan, I'll run it by WP:AN. - Dank (push to talk) 14:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

If you think it'd be helpful, I'm all for it. Given the direction that thread might go, that seems like as good a way to head things off as any, really. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:33, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Upendra

Hi Blade, I've requested full protection as the content war content continues to be added (after a revert from User:Drmies). Hope this won't be a problem? Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 16:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

It seems to have calmed down; if it starts up again, I'll take care of it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 21:31, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Callanecc (talk • contribs) talkback (etc) template appreciated. 04:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

RfD July 1

When you closed an RfD discussion for July 1 you put the template round the whole day (Several discussions) rather than just 1 discussion. I don't want to second guess which discussion(s) you meant to close so have lefit it for now. 82.132.235.175 (talk) 16:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

ANI Decision

While I certainly appreciate your response to my ANI complaint about Ihardlythinkso, I don't think it will settle the matter. I don't know how much of my links you read, but Ihardlythinkso's MO is to behave normally for a spell, and then lash out when something upsets him. This was my first ANI complaint, and it was an annoying process that I would like to avoid. If Ihardlythinkso engages in more of the "asshattery" that you mentioned, does that mean I have to start yet another ANI complaint? Also, will I be told yet again, regardless of my actual responses in the links, that we're "both acting like a 10 year-olds", and have the complaint essentially ignored? All while the disruptive behavior continues in the WikiChess project? Keep in mind that Ihardlythinkso has been more than just warned before; he was even blocked indefinitely. It hasn't caused him to change his behavior one bit. Thanks in advance for your attention and reply.ChessPlayerLev (talk) 03:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Re your coupling

Blade, I really resent you putting me in the same teacup as User:ChessPlayerLev, first with "both reasonable editors" and second "10 year olds". I have nothing in common with this editor. I've oppose his aggressiveness and defined why I oppose his aggressiveness, more than say, other editors he has crossed (e.g., User:GFHandel and User:BashBrannigan). However, BNL, I'm quite aware you hang with admin User:Toddst1, therefore, I really don't expect any fairness from you. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 13:42, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Blade, question for you: I've read time and time again, ANI is a last resort option. Do you really think, ANI was appropriate venue for User:ChessPlayerLev in this case? (Because I don't; it was his voluntary decision to go there, and IMO it was done for one purpose only – a swipe at me by rolling the dice to see if he could get an administrator to block me based on prejudice-generating complaints. He was half-right too, since he got your attention, and as mentioned, you are WP-friend of User:Toddst1, my undesired nemesis.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 13:49, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Blade, it appears that Ihardlythinkso has discovered our secret alliance. I hope s/he doesn't find out about the others! Toddst1 (talk) 14:31, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to keep them low-profile; how much fun is it to be in a backroom cabal if everyone knows about it? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:37, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

It's hard to "discover" something, as obvious as a bloody nose. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 14:35, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

For the record, I have no nemeses, nor secret alliances on Wikipedia. Allegations thereof are completely delusional and indicative of other issues. Toddst1 (talk) 15:44, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

(Excited voice) Oooh! Oooh! Can I be your nemeses?? Pretty please with sugar on top? --Guy Macon (talk) 04:36, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I think you're more the "secret alliance" type. Do you have an Inspector Clouseau-style raincoat? If not, I could loan you one of mine. BTW, does your dog bite? Toddst1 (talk) 07:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

While you're here; is there a good reason I shouldn't just block now? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:47, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:NPA doesn't apply to talking about Admins. Yes, I agree there's TE going on - which is what I indeffed IHTS for a few months ago. So you have the backtround, IHTS appealed that block to Arbcom and after consulting with me, Arbcomm accepted his/her appeal with my blessing. Toddst1 (talk) 15:55, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll reopen the ANI thread and see if someone else will intervene. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Toddst1, apparently in your book, defending oneself against false accuses is "tendentious editing", whereas making the false accusations in the first place, is not! Ihardlythinkso (talk) 16:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Funny that you should mention false accusations... --Guy Macon (talk) 00:20, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

I've long been thinking about writing a warning to the humor-impaired at the top of my talkpage (because I don't have enough up there already). The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:25, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Lost section at WP:ANI

Could you take a look at the thread here? It seems to have gotten lost in the higher than usual drama level and has received no attention at all for ~36 hours as of this writing. Thanks. JanetteDoe (talk) 21:59, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Poor Man's Talk Back

Just letting you know I have replied to your post at ANI. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 00:56, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Not well done

Your edits with regards to IHTS were not well done. I thought your summation of the initial ANI discussion was good (which is why I wrapped it up with a close), However once you say if I see any continued asshattery I'll start with the blocks you've drawn a line in the sand you're stuck with. When IHTS refused the drop the issue your halfway decent options ranged from (best) pretty much ignoring it to (sketchy) going ahead with a block. Responding without following through with your statement undercuts yourself. Engaging in a snarky interchange with Toddst1 about cabals shows a lack of seriousness in performing your admin role (Not social network!) and just extends the drama, and extending the ANI thread is just going to cause more drama. You generally do good work as an admin but every once in a while you run into a situation where the best possible thing you can is just step back and let the other editor have the last word. Experienced editors know how to read situations and no one is going to accept what an editor says about you just because they said it, so don't feel compelled to defend yourself against unreasonable criticism. See also Wikipedia:Other Duck Nobody Ent 11:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

The line between definitive and harsh can be a bit hard to walk, and sometimes like anyone I end up on the wrong side of that line. I also have a self-admittedly odd sense of humor (something not entirely within my control), and I occasionally forget it's a little out there and not everyone's going to get it. It happens, and nothing major came as a result of it; what doesn't kill me makes me stronger, so I'll go forward keeping it in mind. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:33, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

IP "troll"

Howdy doody,

While 173.30.242.216 (talk · contribs · count) can hardly be called the most missed wikipedian, I do think that their contribution to ANI made a point, and in the implausible case that that is all they are responsible for then it ought to be put back and they ought to be unblocked. But I'm not aware of what the history to this IP is - and I suspect there is some as very few newbies start on ANI - hence my taking it to yer talk. Or to put it another way - what's the history? Cheers, Egg Centric 00:00, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

The article on the Beatles has a couple of sockmasters who use various IPs to create disruption; I strongly suspect it's one of them. It seemed more than a little suspicious that a random IP would pop up to make an inflammatory remark about something Beatles-related. In the future, I'll see to it that I mark those a little more explicitly. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:08, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Gotcha, thank you! Egg Centric 00:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:23, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

BLP unreferenced

Hello The Blade of the Northern Lights. Once again, Musical groups are considered a WP:BLP; see WP:URBLP. You may want to contact The-Pope (talk). He has confirmed the usage of the BLP template. I posted a comment to your talk page here on 25 February 2012 and received no reply. I undid your edit to Figgy Duff 16:45, 13 July 2012 here. Please respond. Argolin (talk) 02:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Must have forgotten something; good news to me, as I've always thought they should be. Excuse me for forgetting a talkpage message from 4 months ago. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:30, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem! I haven't been active on wiki for about four months anyway. There are a few other editors out there that want to replace the tag instead of adding references. Anyhoo, thanks for the relpy. Argolin (talk) 02:39, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

BLP--self published stuff

Hi. I remember you commented on the Craig Bartholomew BLP discussion. From what I can gather, he has been published, but most--of not all--of his work is from self-published means. I do see him an a professor with a specific concentration and contribution to his field, but not anything that has distinguished himself (e.g. none of his publications have won awards nor been covered by his peers). Seems to fail the Professor Test. Your thoughts appreciated on the AfD that is playing out as you read this. Jimsteele9999 (talk) 18:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, indeed another AfD you may be interested in is Aaron Gwyn. Anyway, thanks for the info.Jimsteele9999 (talk) 17:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Gregory Goble violating cold fusion topic ban

You placed this editor under a 90-day topic ban from cold fusion on May 23. He returned to editing the article and its talk page yesterday with some rather odd posts. Thought you should know. Thanks for your efforts at AE. Skinwalker (talk) 13:24, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I've blocked for 48 hours; normally I'd go for 24 for a first violation, but those posts really were bizarre. I'll keep an eye on it, as this resets his topic ban to 90 days. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate your quick response. You may wish to log the topic ban and block at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Cold_fusion#Enforcement_by_block. Cheers, Skinwalker (talk) 14:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Ah, yes. Thanks for reminding me. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Oop, sorry, looks like the correct place is here. Rather confusing, that. Skinwalker (talk) 15:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Hey thanks

I noticed, and appreciate the large triage efforts you're making on BLPs. Thanks! Have a great week! --j⚛e decker^talk 22:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help. I though 800 looked way too big, so I've been just trying to fix what I can. It's a nice break from the usual rumblings in the places I normally frequent, and I've learned a lot too. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Question

See here. Silverseren^C 05:53, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

CSD during AfD -- AOK?

Please see [5] followed by [6] (includind their edit summaries). Your opinions, please:

(1) Does listing at AfD somehow suspend the possibility of CSD? (I'm pretty sure I the answer is No.)

(2) Assuming the answer above is indeed No, is it inappropriate, if it's clear that the person removing the CSD tag was doing so on the belief that (1) is Yes, for me to restore the AfD tag?

EEng (talk) 00:04, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes there are occasions when it is appropriate to CSD an article despite it being at AFD. But they are almost by definition uncontentious deletions.

An AFD tag you could restore, but this time the AFD tag was left and the CSD removed. This CSD tag was declined by someone other than the article creator, so it would not be appropriate to restore it - if it wasn't at AFD already your option would be to take it to AFD. There are a few occasions where we need to speedy delete things and can't wait for AFD, for example unsourced attack pages. There is nothing so egregious here that means we can't give it due consideration. ϢereSpielChequers 11:42, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Stepping down

I've just stepped down as a closer, as you probably noticed ... I apologize for the abruptness, but I felt with the things I had already said (and wanted to say), it would be better to do it before anyone else suggested it. If we can't get anyone else to volunteer, I'm sure you'll do fine and I'll be happy to back you up. Also, I learned so much at Wikimania that I really think I'd be doing a disservice to the conversation not to share some of what I learned, which I couldn't do as a closer. I hope I haven't put you in a difficult position. - Dank (push to talk) 00:32, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

No worries, it'll work out one way or another. If it comes down to me closing it myself, I'm ready for it, and if I can get someone else that's great too. I look forward to your input on this. Incidentally, did anyone express concerns about my work? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Rivertorch wasn't happy with the previous close (and thus the closers); YRC thought I was saying too much to be a closer, and today, I agree. Both of them took pains to say how much they respected us, and everyone else has been happy as clams. - Dank (push to talk) 01:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

IP Vandalism

Where can I report vandalism by an IP address? Can I do this in AE? It's not some random IP address that made just a few vandalisms and that's it, he edits Wikipedia and has a history of being here, essentially making his IP like a username. I didn't want to file it in AE and then find out it doesn't belong there and get sanctioned.

Thanks. --Activism1234 01:50, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: I found the appropriate forum for this (edit warring). Another user has already filed a complaint against the IP. Is "comments" section for admins only, or can someone like I comment in it with more info? Thanks --Activism1234 01:57, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: Found out anyone can comment. So sorry to disrupt you!! --Activism1234 02:01, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem; if you ever have any other question, feel free to ask me. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:10, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Notification: proposed deletion of Helmut Kirchmeyer. (TW)

Hi,

I never "talked" so I am not sure how to reply to your proposal for deletion, I hope you see this. I edited some links to the books, but did not have the time to link all of them. You will see that all cited works are listed with details about publishing houses, date, title. In the 60's, there are ISBN Numbers, I will try to add them over time, so far I only added the first from 1967. I also linked to Google Books. Please let me know if this is sufficient to show the reliability of the source. I am Helmut Kirchmeyer's daughter and can vow for the correctness of the table of works and so forth, but I understand that for keeping the information correct, you have to check for formalities. Just let me know if you will remove the tag or whether you think more references are needed right away. Thanks, Angelika — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandini (talk • contribs) 15:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

copyvio & prod

Blade, you prodded Richard H. Lineback for having no references--but as the ed. of the major index & his field and an impt. academic it was very easy to document from the RS for Worldcat. However, you missed that it was an entire copyvio from his institutions's web site, http://philinfo.org/about/ and I have deleted it as G12.

Please remember that if the person has a web site , or his institution does, it's always worth checking: it turns up copyvio a remarkable percentage of the time. I'm dealing with the other articles from the same COI editor. OM already blocked. DGG ( talk ) 04:44, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, I'll keep that in mind. Makes sense to me. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:52, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Hello Blade, whats up? We did not meet so don't forget me. This cupcake is awarded to you from me so that you can cherish your old days at Wikipedia, even before I joined, don't forget them! BTW would you like to participate in my WikiProject, currently active and running with 15+ members? Dipankan (Have a chat?) 15:29, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Aleksandar Aleksic

There was a references but someone deleted it, and i don't know why. I added new now, can you remove proposal for deleteing? thank you --Backij (talk) 08:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Kapu (caste) anon problems

Is it worth setting up long term protection for Kapu (caste)? There is a substantial history of unconstructive anon edits. - Sitush (talk) 10:44, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I think so, yes, so I'll do just that. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:57, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Aleksandar Aleksic againd ;)

Ok, I will :D but how is possible that someone delete you a reference? :O --Backij (talk) 17:51, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Helpful Hannah

Hi, just thought I'd mention the word "deep-seated" is what you meant for "deep-seeded" on the AN/I page. Have to say the image of "deep-seeded" is compelling. You could say "deep-rooted." Regards, Yopienso (talk) 08:23, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Agh, my autocorrect got me again... thanks. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:57, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Dominique Hourani

You userfied this for Walidelmusrati (talk · contribs) and he then recreated it, but if you look at [7] and [8]. He is still adding unsourced promotional material to this page (I just reverted him). Any suggestions as to the best thing to do about this? Clear COI here. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 14:49, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Forgot to add he's never responded to warnings about sourcing BLPs or copyvio. Dougweller (talk) 14:52, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, well that's not very good. I'd be fine with leaving an only warning about this; I have to run right now, so if you haven't done it by the time I get back in a few hours I'll handle it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 15:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 13:50, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

ANI

Even if I will not get any official warning I agree with you that what I did was not so smart to say the least and I will take you warning to heart.BTW I am not really sure that those topics belong to ARBPIA. Because Christians involved too what I think some motion should be brought to ARBCOM to apply DS for "Human rights in Islam".--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 05:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Maksut Narikbaev

I added the source, expanded and then dePRODed the article. If you have further objections, pls let me know.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:06, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

you are wrong about me

i accepted to abide by the 1-rr restriction. i also accepted to use appropriate administrative venues rather than continue to fight. see my unblock conditions here [9]. i brought the issue of ankhmorpork gaming my 1-rr restriction to ani, just like i promised i would. edit warring is not the issue here (where have i edit warred after i accepted my restrictions?). to block me for using the ani, like i was advised to by other admins, would be completely unfair. besides, i am not the one who "pile multiple tangentially related topics into one thread."-- altetendekrabbe  19:48, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Similar cases?

Hi

You asked for more diffs. Unfortunately, real life obligations prevents me from spending the time necessary to compile them. But I would like to contribute some thoughts:

Would you care to comment on whether you see these two cases as having significant similar elements? [10] [11]
Also, please read Future Perfect's assessment here: [12]

Best regards, benjamil ^talk/_edits 06:45, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Dispute Resolution IRC office hours.

Hello there. As you expressed interest in hearing updates to my research in the dispute resolution survey that was done a few months ago, I just wanted to let you know that I am hosting an IRC office hours session this coming Saturday, 28th July at 19:00 UTC (approximately 12 hours from now). This will be located in the #wikimedia-office ^connect IRC channel - if you have not participated in an IRC discussion before you can connect to IRC here.

Regards, User:Szhang (WMF) (talk) 07:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Randall Wolf

FYI: I removed the BLPprod you placed Randall Wolf after this source was added to the article. J04n(talk page) 19:51, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, thanks for letting me know. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 20:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Request for Comment on Proposal

Please consider giving feedback on my recent proposal calling for a new category of usurp called Redirect-only Usurpation. Thanks.  Guðsþegn —— Thane_{_me}  17:26, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Problem user in Indian articles

While this isn't really a caste issue, I figure you can handle this faster than 3RRNB or ANI can. User: Sastan nadar 7726 has been repeatedly removing sourced information from Sambandar, replacing it with unsourced info (well, he's adding numbers in brackets, but i have no idea what he thinks those correspond to; alternatively, its info copied from an old version of the article or somewhere else on the internet). I've asked him to stop, but so far he hasn't responded (and may, for all I know, not even be aware of the existence of his talk page). If you have time, take a look at the article's history, and you'll see the problem, then proceed as you feel appropriate. Qwyrxian (talk) 08:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I see your final warning. Apparently, that indicated to Sastan that the correct action was to open a new account, User:Ravi pillai2236, and make exactly the same edits to Sambandar. In some ways, I like it when disruptive editors are so obvious, because they make it pretty clear what we have to do. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Both indeffed; normally I'd block the master for a week, but given the fact that he hasn't done anything useful I don't see what value there is in letting him edit. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 13:51, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Tsvetan Sokolov article

Hello, and thanks for your note! It's my first article and I'll try to improve it, if not plz delete and I'll add when ready. Ximhua (talk) 15:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Condescending tone. Not tendentious to insist on fairness.

>You don't seem to be listening, so I will give you an exhortation to reread JamesBWatson's
>comments below. I will further add that your editing has been extremely tendentious and
>I see no signs in your latest request that said tendentiousness will abate.
>And finally, as a general point, you'll probably find more willing admins if you're concise.
>Brevity, not verbosity, is the soul of wit, and many other things as well.

It is not good for moderators to write editors in such a condescending tone. It is not "tendentious" to insist that basic logic, fairness, and rules be followed on Wikipedia. It was not "tendentious" for Dr. Martin Luther King to insist on equal rights. JamesBWatson made an logical fallacy that similarity between two posts automatically means sock puppetry. Two people can have similar views and still be two individuals. He never gave a valid reason for his unwarranted assumption. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inetcafebooth6 (talk • contribs) 05:17, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

The Blade of the Northern Lights is certainly NOT condescending. The edits you presented nor any other edits made by TBOTNL are "condescending". Looking at your history, it seems that you have some problems when you post rants like this one. I would advise you to cool down and stay off the talk pages from now on. Robby The Penguin (talk) (contribs) 00:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

User Jason532012

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I'll be around probably under several different names and IP addresses. Jason532012 (talk) 00:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.58.105.143 (talk)

Michał Milowicz

Hi. I will add sources. Of course it's very big problem, to do it yourself. It's better to propose article for deletion, of course, easier way.

Thanks a lot.

ArkadiuszEurope (talk) 21:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Clarification needed

Hi clarification is needed about your wording in this diff [13], in this discussion: [14], cheers. IRWolfie- (talk) 13:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi again, you may wish to weigh in here: User_talk:POVbrigand#Warning. IRWolfie- (talk) 10:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Dispute at 16:10

Several weeks ago you protected 16:10 following a 3RR report. The dispute has since been through WP:3O, WP:DRN and WP:3O again. Now, User:Urklistre (the other editor involved in the dispute, who the 3RR report was filed against) has again started reverting and rewriting my changes without any reasonable explanation or edit summaries, and seems either unwilling or unable to participate in constructive discussion on the article's talk page (he didn't participate in any of the attempted dispute resolution processes either). Could you take a look at the recent edits to the article (starting with this one of mine) and the discussion on the talk page (Talk:16:10#3O and Talk:16:10#Aftermath), and advise on the best course of action to take in order to finally resolve the dispute? Thanks! Indrek (talk) 23:34, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Update: While User:Urklistre hasn't reverted anything else (probably because I haven't made any changes in the article that he could revert), he has apparently taken it upon himself to declare the dispute over, proclaim that my proposed version "isnt accepted now and it will not be accepted in the future" and "can't be in the article" (his words), without any legitimate reasons as to why, and has pushed his preferred version into the article, all despite the fact that the dispute is still clearly ongoing and no consensus has been reached. I'm currently trying to get a third opinion again (just filed a request at WP:3O), but I can't help but wonder, at which point is it reasonable to conclude that Urklistre's goal is no longer the improvement of the article, but rather the sabotaging thereof? He has completely ignored the tentative support for my proposed version from the previous attempt at 3O, which leaves me with doubts as to whether any non-binding dispute resolution process would have any effect, especially if he again simply decides not to participate.

Your advice would be much appreciated. Indrek (talk) 14:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I did

I'm not too familiar with the username guidelines, but I really should have noticed that one. Mark Arsten (talk) 17:21, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries; I've done that before. Happens to all of us. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:23, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Troubles AE

Hi there. I was impressed (from my position as March the guilty bastard in, Sergeant-Major defendant) with your comments on the 1RR complaint brought against me by User:One_Night_In_Hackney. He has now raised yet another Troubles-related 1RR, albeit on an article about islamist terrorism in London, and I think that with your existing knowledge of the situation you would be a valuable contributor to this case. Thanks. --FergusM1970^{Wikipedia policies and procedures should be interpreted with common sense to achieve the purpose of the policy, or help dispute resolution.} 04:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

User:Iloveandrea

... is back as User:Skirtsy. Spotted 'em on Albert Speer ;) Br'er Rabbit (talk) 18:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah its him I sent evidence to Salvio but he probably is not available right now--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 19:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Looks pretty obvious to me too. Blocked. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 21:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

User:Crystalfile

Given the user was blocked for violating the 1RR, could you also inform the user of the discretionary sanctions and log that notice to the case page? nableezy - 21:35, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

POVbrigand

Hi, I have mentioned you by name in an arbitration enforcement request concerning POVbrigand. The request is at: Arbitration/Requests#POVbrigand. Cardamon (talk) 23:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Why did you delete the Earth Stewardship page that we were creating?

We created a page for 'Earth Stewardship' and you deleted it with a (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement). We wrote every word on the page and the one reference we added was linked to the original article about Indigenous people. We are not experienced Wiki people but we know we did not commit infringement with that page. Can you help us to create a proper page for the subject? We do not know what we did wrong.

Thank you Dandarius — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dandarius (talk • contribs) 04:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

msg

Hi there The Blade of the Northern Lights, thanks for the prompt to add citations and references to the page we created for David Prever. The work was only half finished when the page was saved, but the first few references have now been included, with more to follow.

Hope this meets with approval, and apologies for this - we're new to the wiki world.

Many thanks (Openbookdigital (talk) 05:29, 8 August 2012 (UTC))

Why did you delete the 'Ram L. Lakhina' page?

Dear The Blade of the Northern Lights, could you please explain why you deleted the page "Ram L. Lakhina"? I do not see anu just reason why it needed to be deleted, as it was clearly on a public figure in the Netherlands, with proper references mentioned at the bottom of the page. All texts were taken from various public books and documents (rights received). All photographs were taken by family members giving permission to use them om Wikipedia. All later updates, such as receiving awards from the Dutch Queen, are completely inline with wikipedia text contirbution regulations. I therefore do not understand why you would take such a drastic step to remove a complete page, where I and others have spent endless hours in contributing to. Please respond to my message or undelete the page. Thanks. Lavesh777 (talk) 07:37, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Napier

Hi, I dont know why my name is NAPIER ... I like the user Napier without uppcase. Please helpme. --Fazu88 (talk) 02:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

NPF

FYI. The Foundation has created a truly excellent tool, but I still can't but help feel that the developers themselves either have little experience with patrolling, or are missing out on some of the feedeback over the past 2 years. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:39, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Eurovision Invitation!

	You are cordially invited to join WikiProject Eurovision!
	You appear to be someone that may be interested in joining WikiProject Eurovision. Please accept this formal invitation from a current member of the project. We offer a place for you to connect with users who also like Eurovision and facilitate team work in the development of Eurovision articles.
	If you decide to join the project, please add your name to this list, and add the project talk page to your watchlist.
	I hope you accept! - Wesley Mouse 11:47, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

BLPPROD on Olympians

I'm curious why you're tagging unsourced Olympian articles for BLPPROD (Meng Fanlong and Wang Xuanxuan are recent ones). These almost always can be sourced to the standard of WP:BLPPROD by a simple google news search, which I do when I see them in the cat. I'd be surprised (and disappointed) if any were actually deleted. Would it not be simpler just to source them in the first place rather than tagging them? Regards, Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 11:52, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Outside of baseball, I don't know what constitutes decent references for athletics, and I don't want to really screw something up; if there are suggestions for RS for these types of athletes, I'll gladly have a look and educate myself. In the absence of that, I generally like to leave sourcing for topics I'm unfamiliar with to people who are. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 12:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, that's a reasonable point. Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 14:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Any chance you know of someplace (on or off-wiki) where they'd have a list of good sources? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 14:36, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Well I had a look at WikiProjects Olympics and Boxing, and I don't see any list of reliable sources there. I just rely on newspapers that are generally reliable. Some of the profiles on london2012.com include references to reliable sources, but I don't know if they are always reliable by Wikipedia standards (see Wang Xuanxuan, for example). Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 15:00, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Question about my article!

Hi Mate, Hope you are in good health,

I created an article title named "AdEngage', this article was deleted, I want to make this article page on Wikipedia, this is so useful! I can see other articles related to same field here & they are stick, so why not mine article?

Looking forward to hear from you soonest! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark211 (talk • contribs) 22:59, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

RE ArbCom

Hi. Thank you for your inputs regarding the discretionary talks regarding my breach of 0RR. I am just a little unclear, which action are going to implement: topic ban or block (because other two editors suggested one or another) ? Moreover, can you please note NW's objection to the restriction to appeal for 6 months [15], and my subsequent responce (marking my good faith and willingness to cooperate with the committee). Would a 6 month topic ban be a fair bridge between two proposals ? [16] Slovenski Volk (talk) 07:02, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Whilst Ive had a look at ARBMAC, would you mind clarifying specificaly which article I can and cannot edit ? And what abut discussing on the talp pages ? Slovenski Volk (talk) 03:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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thanks for reply. Lastly does that 'exclude general, not directly related topics like, say, the Neolithic , or Roman Balkans ? Slovenski Volk (talk)

Concur

I had come to the same conclusion on the SPI for Ejwcun (talk · contribs). I am not a regular at SPI and was acquainting myself with the procedure there when you acted. It is my belief that the report was accurate. Thanks for your quick action. Tiderolls 21:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem; glad to help. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 02:59, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

AE - source

This is the source - will c if I can upload it. Paragraph I used said "Reporter Amira Hass, for example, has recently been ordered by the Jerusalem Magistrate's Court to pay NIS 250,000 in damages to the Jewish community of Beit Hadassah in Hebron for her false report that Jewish residents there had abused the corpse of an Arab shot dead by the Border Police during a hot pursuit. The allegations were disproved by multiple televised accounts of the event." Crystalfile (talk) 17:32, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

User:Irvi Hyka

Recently, User:Bwilkins imposed ARBMAC sanctions on this user, but the edit warring has continued with 1RR violations on International recognition of Kosovo, Libyan civil war, Ernesto Sabato and Rona Nishliu in the last couple of days. I can't comment on the other disputes, but at International recognition of Kosovo the user's addition of non-notable text to the article has been reverted by multiple editors but they keep trying to restore it without any consensus on the talk page. I requested that the user self-revert and join the discussion on the talk page, but the response I got was that they "don't see something that should be discussed". Bwilkins informed me that he wasn't currently using his admin tools, but that I should contact someone who regularly deals with AE blocks to take care of it. I don't suppose you can look into this? TDL (talk) 20:36, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

ARBPIA topic ban clarification

Is this edit a violation of User:talknic's topic ban? If yes could you please tell him to knock it off before he gets in trouble, and if no, why not? It deals specifically with a UN resolution that addresses the Arab-Israeli conflict. Thanks. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 23:55, 12 August 2012 (UTC) Look here also Crystalfile (talk) 00:00, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Even if the topic ban is Arab-Israeli conflict only, Ahmadinejad's comments which he was editing a section about were related to I-P (call to eliminate "regime" that is "occupying Palestine"), so I feel that either way it was probably a breach of topic ban (although you may find differently). I believe that it also constitutes WP:OR (2 editors, not here, said similar comments that it does), as he draws his own comparison, something he should know better. I've also told him on the talk page of that article that WP editors can't draw their own comparisons and put that in an article, as I, for example, don't even see any comparison, but he hasn't been listening, instead responding twice with "proof" of how they're similar. Thanks. --Activism1234 00:08, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Looks like a breach of his topic ban to me; it's a bit too far after the fact to be blocking over at this point, but I'll leave talknic a message. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Maybe it's getting late and I need to go to bed, but the breach was today.[17] A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

No, it's not you; I misread the timestamp (for some reason I thought it was 12 UTC, not 16). I'll sort out what to do in a moment. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:47, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

You should explain to him why he was blocked otherwise this will happen again. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 04:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

article: Habonim Dror Camp Moshava

Please reverse the deletion of the preliminary article: Habonim Dror Camp Moshava. Following its denial for full article status, more edits were being done and its deletion is uncalled for and without due process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Habonimdrorcampmoshava (talk • contribs) 01:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

With all due respect, as Blade of the Northern Lights noticed when he made the decision, your username and the page you created do indicate promotion of content, and I can't see it as being any other way. As far as I'm aware, that was the main reason for its removal. Besides, Habonim Dror already exists. More info, if relevant, can always be added there. That's my opinion of it anyway. [Note to Blade of the Northern Lights - I saw this when looking back at the previous section. If you don't want me commenting on your talk page in issues I'm not involved in, I'll refrain from such in the future. Sorry if this is the case.] --Activism1234 01:46, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

No worries, some help from talk page stalkers is always appreciated. My response is very similar to yours, but to be safe I'll review things tomorrow morning to make sure I didn't miss something. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:10, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Problems with a fan club

I am having some difficulties with a fan club at Kumar Vishwas. Do you have time to take a look at it? You'll note that there have been past comments on the talk page about the dubious insertions of information. - Sitush (talk) 16:41, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

WP:RFPP

Hi Blade, if you have some time, there is quite a large backlog at WP:RFPP. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:54, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I've got a few minutes; might as well take care of a couple. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 03:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

WT:User pages#User page redirects to article space and WT:User pages#Recent change

Thank you for closing Wikipedia talk:User pages#User page redirects to article space. Would you consider closing the related discussion at Wikipedia talk:User pages#Recent change? At the close request at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure, I recommended making the latter discussion a subsection of the first and assessing the consensus of both discussions. Would you consider doing that, or perhaps do a separate close of the "Recent change" section? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 23:03, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll have a look a little later tonight; no problem. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:32, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Historylover4

It appears you wanted to make the block indefinite, but you left it at 6 months.--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:06, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Dammit, you're right! I went to fix the rationale first so I wouldn't forget that, and I ended up forgetting the other part. Thanks. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:07, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Nkrbar

Not OR, copy/paste see warning on Nkrbar talk. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 07:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, the last one was anyways. Not sure what to make of the previous three screeds. Good catch. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 07:10, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Too long, too well written. I often google it. Keep up the good work! Jim1138 (talk) 07:14, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Where do I lodge an appeal?

I intend to appeal the indefinite block. Please advise, where or what is the "appropriate forum"? talknic (talk) 07:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Bagumba

Don't believe everything I read. You should've put something to say "Oppose, not Really" so that other users won't put the same thing that I did. TruPepitoM (talk) 07:30, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I realized that; I appended a note to the end of it directing people to the answer if they don't get it. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 07:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Request for comment

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)