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Tech News: 2019-11

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Pages can use geocoordinates from Wikidata with the mw.wikibase.entity:formatStatements Lua function or the #statements parser function. If they do, they will now be shown using a Kartographer <maplink> if the wiki can use Kartographer. You can report bugs or ask questions on Phabricator.
• There is now an EventStream to see when links are added or removed on Wikimedia wikis. You can read the discussions and plans.

Problems

• Some wikis will not be able to edit for a short period of time on 19 March (UTC). This will start at 15:00 UTC. It will last up to 15 minutes but probably shorter. You can see the list of affected wikis. This is because of network maintenance. You can still read the wikis.
• Editors who use Firefox to edit with the visual editor had a problem with copying text. When they tried to select text that included footnotes, templates or block images in the middle they would often only get part of the text. This has now been fixed. [1]
• Some maps didn't work for a while on 8 March. This has been fixed. [2][3]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 March. It will be on all wikis from 14 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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19:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

FYI

Seeing a lot of The Anomebot2's edits being reverted on my watchpage. Not sure if this is due to a problem, and if so, if you know about it. Cheers - wolf 00:05, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: Thanks for the report! I've browsed the article list a bit at random, and a lot of the removals of the tag seems to be the amazing Deor at work, replacing them with coordinates. I've also reverted a few others which were matching algorithm misfires, created when I loosened the bot's constraints a little bit too far. Can you give me examples of any others you have seen? -- The Anome (talk) 14:26, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

I've been undoing some of the bot's edits (as at America the Beautiful Silver Bullion Coins) that The Anome failed to catch. Many of them seem to have been the result of recently added categories that confused the bot. Deor (talk) 17:07, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes. I relaxed some of the bot's false-positive-filtering heuristics as an experiment, to try to get rid of some of the false negatives and get more coverage, but it generated many more false positives than I expected, so I quickly stopped it. I thought I'd reverted them all, but I was wrong. Thanks, Deor, for cleaning up after my error: I will be more careful in future. -- The Anome (talk) 17:13, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Just seeing coming o/l now. A couple examples would be 1 & 2, and it is Doer that reverted both. But it seems you've already got this covered, so I'll leave you to it. Cheers - wolf 21:48, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

By the way, Anome, thanks for "the amazing Deor" above. One doesn't need continual positive feedback, but the occasional bit of appreciation is certainly welcome. Deor (talk) 01:05, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Question

How do you archive pages? I have stuff on my talk page that dates back 11 years and its getting so cluttered I cannot read it since I can't read large blocks of text due to a visual spatial condition I have. Also, keep in mind, I cannot read HTML formatting either Saturn star (talk) 04:20, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@Saturn star: If you put the following at the top of your talk page using the "source edit" mode, this should sort it:

{{User:MiszaBot/config
| algo                = old(30d)
| archive             = {{SUBST:FULLPAGENAME}}/Archive %(counter)d
| counter             = 1
| maxarchivesize      = 150K
| archiveheader       = {{Automatic archive navigator}}
| minthreadstoarchive = 1
| minthreadsleft      = 4
}}
{{Archives|auto=long|search=yes}}

If the above is too confusing, you can ask me to do it for you here, and I will make the edit to your talk page for you. -- The Anome (talk) 11:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• When you use rollback you will be able to get a confirmation prompt on most wikis. It asks you if you wanted to do the rollback. This is to avoid misclicks. You will have to opt in to get it. On German Wikipedia it will be an opt-out feature from 28 March. [4][5]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 March. It will be on all wikis from 21 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Admins will be able to block someone from editing a page or a namespace. This already works on a few Wikimedia wikis. You can read more. If your wiki wants to be an early tester of this, you can tell the developers. [6]
• Toolforge will shut down the Ubuntu Trusty job grid. This will happen the week of 25 March. Tools that use this grid needs to be moved to the new Debian Stretch job grid. If they haven't, they will be taken offline. Maintainers can restart the tools later. Users may not be able to use them in the meanwhile. You can see a list of affected tools.

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19:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

One in a Million(TV series) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect One in a Million(TV series). Since you had some involvement with the One in a Million(TV series) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 22:25, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-13

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The new version of the content translation tool will be used for all new translations. The older version will still be used for translations that were started with it. Most users won’t see any change. More than 80% of the published translations are already using the new version. [7]

Problems

• There was a problem with editing with Safari on iOS. When you wrote an edit summary you couldn't save the edit. This has now been fixed. [8]
• The editing toolbar sometimes disappears when you scroll on iOS devices. This will be fixed soon. [9]
• Wikis can over-ride interface messages on-wiki. A problem meant that sometimes an old versions of any changed messages were shown instead. This included the sitenotice and other important parts of the interface. This was fixed at around 2019-03-22 16:00 (UTC). Logged-out users may still get the wrong message. Purging the page should fix it for them. [10]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:05, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of March to Leave for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article March to Leave is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/March to Leave until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. B dash (talk) 14:30, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for all your work expanding articles around the consequences of the Digital Economy Act 2017. Cheers! Polly Tunnel (talk) 10:54, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Polly Tunnel: Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 11:07, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• Notifications tell you about things that happen on the wiki. You can turn on notifications about new links to pages you created. For performance reasons you can no longer get e-mails about this. [11]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:29, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

User Melbourneofficerpolice

Hi The Anome! I hope you're having a great day and that life is going well for you. :-) I'm leaving you a message to let you know that I modified the block you placed on this account to be indefinite per WP:NOTHERE. It's obvious given the username and the edits that were made (including the edit that's now suppressed) that this user is not here to contribute to this project. If you have questions, input, objections, or concerns - please let me know (ping me in your response) and I'll be happy to discuss it with you. I doubt that you'll have any issues with the change, but I wanted to let you know nonetheless just in case. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:22, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Thank you, and I hope life is treating you similarly. ;-) Yes, I think you made the right call in this case. Thanks for your help. -- The Anome (talk) 09:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

You bet; always happy to lend a hand. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• More wikis are now testing visual editor section editing for mobile users. You can read more.
• Admins on French and Polish Wikipedia can block someone from editing a page or a namespace. If your wiki wants to get these blocks before they are available to all wikis, you can tell the developers. [12][13]

Problems

• You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis. [14]
• A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back. [15]
• Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed. [16]

Changes later this week

• When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site. [17]
• The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more. [18]
• The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return "" (empty string). When you read a page it will return "-" (dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces. [19]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia. [20][21]
• The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.

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18:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikidata will get a new constraint status called suggestion. This will change how the WikibaseQualityConstraints constraint checking API works. [22][23]
• You can test the depicts property for structured data on Commons.

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23:00, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Led By Donkeys for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Led By Donkeys is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Led By Donkeys until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. RaviC (talk) 00:00, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook. [24][25][26]
• The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version. [27]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikipedia articles will have the sameAs meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test. [28][29]

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19:08, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Category:Professional magicians has been nominated for discussion

Category:Professional magicians, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rathfelder (talk) 19:31, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Wikipedia app for Android now invites users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. [30][31]

Problems

• Tech News was late last week because of a MassMessage bug. Other newsletters had the same problem. [32]

Changes later this week

• You will see when you last refreshed the recent changes page. This is so you can see how recent the changes are. [33]
• When you write a comment in Structured Discussions but have not posted it yet your web browser will save it in local storage instead of session storage. This means you do not lose them even if you close your web browser. Structured Discussions used to be called Flow. [34]
• You will be able to turn off milestone notifications. Milestone notifications congratulate you when you have made certain numbers of edits. [35]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 1 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikidata wb_terms table will be dropped. This will affect some Wikidata tools. They need to be updated. The table has become too big which is causing problems. This will happen on 29 May. You can read more. You can ask for help if you need it.
• Wikimedia wikis will soon use a token when you log out. This changes how the API works. Some tools might need to be updated. [36]

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22:27, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular

Administrators must secure their accounts The Arbitration Committee may require a new RfA if your account is compromised. Use strong, unique passwords for your Wikipedia account and associated email Change your password now if your Wikipedia account password or email password is reused on another website, exposed, or weak Enable two-factor authentication now for improved security

View additional information

Why have I received this message? All administrators are receiving it. What prompted you to send this message? Recently, several Wikipedia admin accounts were compromised. The admin accounts were desysopped on an emergency basis. In the past, the Committee often resysopped admin accounts as a matter of course once the admin was back in control of their account. The committee has updated its guidelines. Admins may now be required to undergo a fresh Request for Adminship (RfA) after losing control of their account. What do I need to do? Only to follow the instructions in this message. Check that your password is unique (not reused across sites). Check that your password is strong (not simple or guessable). Enable Two-factor authentication (2FA), if you can, to create a second hurdle for attackers. How can I find out more about two-factor authentication (2FA)? You can find out more about 2FA at m:2FA.

This message was sent to all administrators following a recent motion. Thank you for your attention. For the Arbitration Committee, Cameron11598 02:46, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)

ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:04, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. The developers are working on solving the problem. [37]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 8 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:27, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 15 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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00:48, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The report for phase 1 of the talk pages consultation 2019 has been published. Communities are invited to start phase 2 of the consultation on their wikis.

Problems

• File descriptions for files from Commons were not shown properly on other Wikimedia wikis for a few days. For example the image descriptions and license information were missing. This has now been fixed. [38][39]
• Some diffs show an error message when you try to see them. The developers are working on fixing it. It could be because of some edit comments. [40][41]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 May. It will be on all wikis from 23 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 22 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The content translation tool on Wikipedia can use machine translations. There is a system to stop translations where the editors do not fix machine translation mistakes. This warns or stops them if they seem to just copy what the machine translation gives them. If this system is too strict or not strict enough you can tell the language team. [42]
• The Wikidata wbeditentity API endpoint will remove all aliases if the request includes an empty alias. This is how it supposed to work. It has not been working this way because of a bug. This will start on 12 June. [43]

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13:04, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Account with inappropriate username at List of universities of Singapore

Hello. I have edited List of universities in Singapore recently and noticed that right after I made a change to remove links as Wikipedia is not a place for advertisements, a new account was made, this time with the name User:Officer8 which looks like my name. I suspect it is a sockpuppet of User:SingaporeUniversity because he was just blocked and went straight to undoing my revert on the latter user. Lodged a report at sockpuppet investigations at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SingaporeUniversity for having a username too similar to mine. Messaging you in case this needs discussion.--Officer781 (talk) 16:36, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Officer781: This has now been dealt with by User:TheSandDoctor. -- The Anome (talk) 10:41, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks!--Officer781 (talk) 05:44, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Inserting partner listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Inserting partner. Since you had some involvement with the Inserting partner redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Plantdrew (talk) 06:12, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Receiving partner listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Receiving partner. Since you had some involvement with the Receiving partner redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Plantdrew (talk) 06:13, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-22

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• Big changes to the replica database will happen on 3 June. Some tools on Cloud Services will stop working if the maintainers do not update them to use the new schema. This probably affects tools that query for revisions or log entries made by a user. [44][45]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 29 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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15:33, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Leo Burnett Tailor Made

The article Leo Burnett Tailor Made has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

there are a lack of reliable sources and the subject is of questionable notabilty

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Battleofalma (talk) 13:58, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Leo Burnett Tailor Made for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Leo Burnett Tailor Made is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leo Burnett Tailor Made until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. - Sdkb (talk) 16:16, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now write all special letters in all African Wikipedia languages. This works in the desktop version. [46]
• There is now a field called depicts on Commons. This is a way to show what is in a picture with the help of Wikidata. It is still in development. [47]
• Some tools on Toolforge may break on or after 3 June because of database changes. Maintainers should update their tools to use the new schema. [48][49]

Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem. [50]

Changes later this week

• Some wikis have one tab for the visual editor and one tab for a wikitext editor. Others wikis just have one tab. If your wiki has two tabs, clicking a link to create a new page has always opened a wikitext editor. It will now open the editor you used the last time you edited. [51]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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15:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

The Anomebot2

As you've probably noticed, I monitor your bot's edits to find new(ish) articles that need coordinates, so that I can add them wherever possible. Although you've been running the bot every month or so for quite a long time, it's been almost three months since the last run, and I'm just wondering, Is there some problem with the bot or perhaps some other reason for the delay? Deor (talk) 22:21, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

The machine on which I run the bot died, and I've only just recently restored its data to a new machine. I'll run it again in the next few days. Thanks for giving me a prod on this. -- The Anome (talk) 10:07, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

800service

This is just FYI. I blocked the account for a username violation (soft) and then noted on their talk page that you had appeared to do the same earlier. Wondering why the block didn’t show up before I did my actions I checked the block log, but it seems your block didn’t go through. Anyhow, again FYI, N.J.A. | talk 11:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Ah. This was probably finger trouble on my part; putting the notice up, but forgetting to block. -- The Anome (talk) 11:48, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society

Dear The Anome/Archive 10,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Fifteen Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for fifteen years or more. ​

Best regards, Urhixidur (talk) 19:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• When you create a PDF from a page on the wiki this is now done by Proton. Before this we used Electron. It should look the same but work better. Both use Chromium. This is a different system from when you collect several articles into a book and make a PDF from them. [52][53]
• The Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standard OOUI icons. There will be additional minor fixes for positioning in the next deployment. [54]
• Bots and other scripts that do not set an identifiable User-Agent may find their requests strictly rate-limited until they identify themselves properly. [55]

Problems

• Please check if the Flagged Revisions configuration on your wiki is as you expect (or as it was a few weeks ago). If not, please report it. [56]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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17:06, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Advertising agencies of Brazil

A tag has been placed on Category:Advertising agencies of Brazil requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:41, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

incessant sock runs riot

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/FIMESTPI history partial at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=900851978#sock_who_trolls_its_own_checkuser_page_and_is_way_ahead_of_anyone_interested - does not speak english and runs riot for over two years...I noticed you are on, not a pleasant experience watching the mess created... JarrahTree 09:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem. [57]

Changes later this week

• MIDI files can soon be played without the Score extension. You can then add them with [[File:Filename.midi]]. Later override_midi and override_audio will stop working. Instead you will need to add the MIDI file below the music score. [58]
• A new video player will soon replace the old one. You will be able to enable it as a beta feature in your preferences. It will later be enabled for everyone if there are no big problems. [59]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Some gadgets and user scripts still use the old wgEnableAPI and wgEnableWriteAPI values. These values are always true. They will soon be removed. This might break the gadgets and scripts. You should fix your gadgets to not use these values. [60]

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20:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Marketing companies of Brazil

A tag has been placed on Category:Marketing companies of Brazil requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:13, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• The new version of MediaWiki for last week was not fully released due to issues. It was removed from most wikis on Tuesday and from test wikis on Thursday. [61]
• Most wikis were slow and then briefly read-only last week due to one of the database servers having a problem. It is now replaced. [62]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar).

Meetings

• You can watch or join the next Wikimedia Language showcase. It will be about the usage of Machine Translation in Wikimedia projects. The showcase will be on 26 June at 13:00 (UTC). A recording will be kept for later viewing
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 26 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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17:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Rhotacism

Hi, I saw you amended "r" to "R" in the definition of Rhotacism (speech impediment), while the source has r. Please can you explain the change? I added the reference but am not an expert in linguistics.TSventon (talk) 19:30, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

I have reverted the change as it was not in line with the reference, but would still be interested in any reasons that R is preferable to r in the definition.TSventon (talk) 12:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Block setting

Please change the block of Oxygensolutions from soft block to hard block as its an obvious vandalism-only account created by one of the persistent vandal IPs in the series—IP1, IP2, IP3, IP4, who does repeated targeted vandalism at popular Mohanlal films by deliberately reducing the financial data disregarding sources. All IPs geolocate to same place and ISP. That account was created while editing Narasimham (film) as a follow-up to the IP's edits. Thank you. 137.97.13.61 (talk) 07:10, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The development of Wikidata Bridge has started. The goal is to allow Wikidata edits from Wikipedia. [63]

Problems

• Sometimes pages load slowly for users routed to the Amsterdam data center. Investigation is in progress. [64]
• Wikidata query service was overloaded between 11:50 UTC until 13:15 UTC on June 24. It has been fixed. [65]

Changes later this week

• You will be able to read but not to edit all wikis for a short amount of time, on 3 July at 06:00 (UTC). This is to move a database. [66]
• There is no deployment of a new version of MediaWiki on the wikis this week (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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21:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The No Spam Barnstar
	Thank you for blocking spam and keeping Wikipedia spam free! DukeOfGrammar (talk) 21:06, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-28

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• For event organizers, if you request a temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation, this will now also raise the edit rate limit for those new accounts at the event, which will prevent another bottleneck. [67]
• Administrators at all Wiktionary, Wikivoyage, and Wikisource wikis are now able to use the new partial blocks feature. [68]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 July. It will be on all wikis from 11 July (calendar).
• The design of MediaWiki's software windows will change for desktop users. Layout will be simpler, buttons will be bolder and clearer, and close buttons will be just icons. This is like the mobile design. This will affect ContentTranslation, VisualEditor, TemplateWizard, and other tools. [69]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch. [70]
• There will be a change in the name format of new Wikidata RDF dumps starting on 15 July. [71]

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20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

WP:G12 speedy deletion tag added to West Berlin Women's Center

Hi The Anome. That speedy deletion tag was added here. I note that in your edit summary here you wrote "creating from a somewhat baffling subsection of Radical feminism article...". Your thoughts about this? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:26, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of List of towns and cities with 100,000 or more inhabitants for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of towns and cities with 100,000 or more inhabitants is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of towns and cities with 100,000 or more inhabitants until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 20:50, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The mobile web will get more advanced editing tools. Seven more Wikipedias can use them now. This works for Arabic, Indonesian, Italian, Persian, Japanese, Spanish and Thai Wikipedia. You can try the tools on the mobile web and give feedback. [72]

Changes later this week

• The abuse filter system user will soon do maintenance edits on broken abuse filters. This user is called Edit filter and has administrator rights. This is meant to fix technical problems. It will not do any other changes. You can read more.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 July. It will be on all wikis from 18 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add image captions to images on Commons. It will only invite users who have added a number of edits in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback. [73]

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15:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #1—July 2019

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Did you know?

Did you know that you can use the visual editor on a mobile device?

Every article has a pencil icon at the top. Tap on the pencil icon to start editing.

Edit Cards

This is what the new Edit Cards for editing links in the mobile visual editor look like. You can try the prototype here: 📲 Try Edit Cards.

Welcome back to the Editing newsletter.

Since the last newsletter, the team has released two new features for the mobile visual editor and has started developing three more. All of this work is part of the team's goal to make editing on mobile web simpler.

Before talking about the team's recent releases, we have a question for you:

Are you willing to try a new way to add and change links?

If you are interested, we would value your input! You can try this new link tool in the mobile visual editor on a separate wiki.

Follow these instructions and share your experience:

📲 Try Edit Cards.

Recent releases

The mobile visual editor is a simpler editing tool, for smartphones and tablets using the mobile site. The Editing team has recently launched two new features to improve the mobile visual editor:

1. Section editing
   • The purpose is to help contributors focus on their edits.
   • The team studied this with an A/B test. This test showed that contributors who could use section editing were 1% more likely to publish the edits they started than people with only full-page editing.
2. Loading overlay
   • The purpose is to smooth the transition between reading and editing.

Section editing and the new loading overlay are now available to everyone using the mobile visual editor.

New and active projects

This is a list of our most active projects. Watch these pages to learn about project updates and to share your input on new designs, prototypes and research findings.

• Edit cards: This is a clearer way to add and edit links, citations, images, templates, etc. in articles. You can try this feature now. Go here to see how: 📲Try Edit Cards.
• Mobile toolbar refresh: This project will learn if contributors are more successful when the editing tools are easier to recognize.
• Mobile visual editor availability: This A/B test asks: Are newer contributors more successful if they use the mobile visual editor? We are collaborating with 20 Wikipedias to answer this question.
• Usability improvements: This project will make the mobile visual editor easier to use.  The goal is to let contributors stay focused on editing and to feel more confident in the editing tools.

Looking ahead

• Wikimania: Several members of the Editing Team will be attending Wikimania in August 2019. They will lead a session about mobile editing in the Community Growth space. Talk to them about how editing can be improved.
• Talk Pages: In the coming months, the Editing Team will begin improving talk pages and communication on the wikis.

Learning more

The VisualEditor on mobile is a good place to learn more about the projects we are working on. The team wants to talk with you about anything related to editing. If you have something to say or ask, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

PPelberg (WMF) (talk) and Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Why'd you unblock the 1488 code guy?

I am just curious why you reversed your decision on the ValentinesDay88 block - the username is pretty clearly a 1488 code username, and white supremacist codes aren't appropriate usernames. Simonm223 (talk) 17:27, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

The user's focus on editing Antifa (United States) is of related concern, and see their talk page for a bit more. This should be an easy block. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:33, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

I am that person and I am not a guy I was born on Valentine's day and if that is offensive I will change it — Preceding unsigned comment added by ValentinesDay88 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Am I in trouble?

I got a message that I am blocked and I'm scared that I did something wrong. I know that I messed up on an article but I was trying to be helpful. I won't edit anymore on those webpages if that is a problem. Will I be allowed to post again? I am not good at this and I want to do better. ValentinesDay88 (talk) 18:39, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

@Simonm223, Ivanvector, and ValentinesDay88: I looked briefly at the editor's contributions, and I don't think there's a watertight case for the name being a "1488" reference instead of just an unfotunate coincidence. However, if the combination of the username and their editing pattern tips things over the threshold for believing it to be a 1488 reference, then I agree, it's an easy block. Can you give me some examples of concerning/suspect edits I should have taken into account here? -- The Anome (talk) 21:47, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Sure, here's some diffs of concern.

1. [74] Added Acid throwing to the see also on Milkshaking.
2. [75] Reverted it back in after it was removed.
3. [76] Added this rather contrary to WP:NPOV statement to Antifa (United States).
4. [77] Reverted it back in again after it was removed.
5. [78] Made a similar revision to Redneck Revolt. Note that this individual was not a member of Redneck Revolt though he was a former member of its prececessor organization John Brown Gun Club. However far-right publications like Daily Caller have made efforts to conflate the group with him regardless of this distinction.
6. [79] Reverts the edit back in after it is removed.

So here's the situation. We have a new user who pops up and makes 24 gnomish edits over four days before changing over to almost exclusively editing articles about antifascists in the United States. IE: Just enough time to get autoconfirmed status. Despite the user being brand-new to Wikipedia, they seem to be aware of WP:1RR level sanctions that often apply to DS affected political subjects. Their username is a coded reference to the Fourteen Words - though they (of course) deny it. The user's userpage space honestly seems like something a channer would dream up as cover. This pattern of behaviour is pretty blatant, and honestly I'm suspicious based on their edit history that they're a sock, though I wouldn't hazard a guess as to whose they are. Now a new user born on February 14 1988 just happening to stumble upon a combination that accidentally alludes to one of the most infamous white supremacist slogans is unlikely, but not impossible. A new user born on February 14 1988 creating that username and then immediately making POV slanting edits to articles about antifascism upon achieving autoconfirmed status pushes the bounds of credulity too far. Simonm223 (talk) 23:50, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

@Simonm223, Ivanvector, and ValentinesDay88: I'm sending this one to WP:AN/I. -- The Anome (talk) 21:29, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Anome. I suggested offline to Simonm223 to take it to WP:RFC/U if you were busy (which it turns out is WP:RFC/NAME, I got my shortcuts mixed up), and I haven't been over to ANI yet (been trying to avoid it lately), but I see the user has been blocked by a checkuser. Seems to be all wrapped up then. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 23:57, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Yes, thank you for your assistance on this. Simonm223 (talk) 11:51, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Proposing a merge of Kazakhstan man-in-the-middle attack into Internet in Kazakhstan#Surveillance_and_filtering

Hi, thanks for your work on Kazakhstan man-in-the-middle attack. But I think a much better place for that content is over at Internet in Kazakhstan#Surveillance_and_filtering, which is a more naturally-named existing article with plenty of historical context in it. If you don't object I'm happy to perform the merge.

Thanks! ␄ –Nucleosynth (t c) 02:14, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-30

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Communities interested by easing newcomers' first steps can now benefit from the Growth team experiments on their wikis. Check the conditions and the request process.
• The Coolest Tool Award 2019 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools by July 29. The awarded tools will be presented at Wikimania. [80]

Problems

• The release of the last version of MediaWiki (1.34.0-wmf.14) has been blocked for groups 1 and 2. [81]

Changes later this week

• Phabricator database will be moved to a different server. Writes will be blocked on Thursday 25 July, between 05:30 and 06:00 AM UTC. Reads will remain unaffected. [82]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 July. It will be on all wikis from 25 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Some items in the visual editor will change later this week. This will make it easier to edit links, citations, and templates on both desktop and mobile. [83][84]
• With advanced search turned on you will be able to choose the sorting order of the search results when you do a search. [85][86]
• Users who edit from IP addresses whitelisted on a request for temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation will bypass CAPTCHAs. This will happen in August. If you think this should not happen for some reason, please let us know.
• The variable user_wpzero will be removed from AbuseFilter. A list of filters needing a fix is provided.

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13:07, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch. [87]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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21:42, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

COINTELPRO - Italian translation project

COINTELPRO is not known in Italy and the wikipedia edition page is proof of this. I had translated the page from English to Italian, but it was censored, I think for fear of consequences. It is important that you translate COINTELPRO also into Italian. In fact, a film about Jean Seberg will be released in theaters. Jean Seberg was a victim of COINTELPRO. You can use this draft to get started, I will suggest the changes to be made to it in this discussion (if you want). https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=COINTELPRO&oldid=106874991 this is the link of my request to administrators of wikipedia, it was censored too. https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Admin-Bot&oldid=106892492

Gent. Amministratore, mi rivolgo a te per dei problemi che sto avendo nella rettifica di una pagina di Wikipedia a causa dell’ostracismo di alcuni utenti, pagina che non corrisponde ai requisiti di Wikipedia in quanto la voce è più scarna di quella di un dizionario ed in quanto mero copiato di qualche riga della versione inglese, decontestualizzate tra l’altro : la pagina da rettificare è : https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=COINTELPRO la mia modifica è : https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=COINTELPRO&oldid=106874991 la discussione è: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussioni_utente:212.171.112.244

Tenendo presente che tu puoi non prendere in considerazione la mia modifica, ti chiedo quanto meno di occupartene o delegare la sua rettifica a degli utenti esperti (anche in ambito giuridico). La pagina originale è nell’edizione inglese. Come potrai anche tu constatare gli argomenti sono delicati sia per i contenuti che per gli attori coinvolti. Inoltre essendoci state delle vittime delle precisazioni sono dovute. In sintesi cointelpro era una operazione dell’FBI con la collaborazione di altri dipartimenti USA ufficialmente chiusa in quanto ritenuta illegale per i suoi metodi, ma probabilmente tali metodi sono imitati ed eseguiti in altre operazioni. L’argomento deve essere trattato onde evitare che tali episodi si verifichino nuovamente, specialmente in un periodo già abbastanza turbato dalle rivelazioni di Snowden sui metodi di sorveglianza illegale. Sarà peraltro affrontato nel nuovo film su Jean Seberg, vittima COINTELPRO, con Kristen Stewart nel ruolo di protagonista. Wikipedia in questo caso informa semplicemente l’utente dell’esistenza di tale operazione e di tali metodi (per quanto possano essere ritenuti assurdi ed ideati da deviati). Inoltre come potrai constatare la pagina in inglese è stata approvata e documentata con ben 119 note.

Fatto: La pagina era stata da me precedentemente modificata e rettificata, nel pieno rispetto delle linee guida di Wikipedia e della licenza GNU, in quanto fuorviante, priva di immagini, contenuti e di documenti a supporto ed ottenuta da una errata e scarna traduzione automatica dell’omonima pagina dell’edizione inglese (come se il COINTELPRO fosse solo un’operazioncina sotto copertura dell’FBI e non ci fossero state delle vittime). Successivamente la mia modifica è stata censurata da un utente e ripristinata nel suo stato originale ovvero con le qualità sopra descritte per improprio senso del dovere od appartenenza ad ideologie in contrasto con i contenuti da me pubblicati e documentati. Ho quindi provveduto ad una nuova modifica e rettifica sempre nel pieno rispetto delle linee guida di Wikipedia e della licenza GNU attraverso l'ausilio della mera traduzione (non automatica) dell'omonima pagina dell'edizione inglese di Wikipedia di venerdì 26 luglio 2019. Preciso che gli iperlink spesso indirizzano l'utente verso l'edizione inglese di Wikipedia in quanto le voci nell'edizione italiana sono inesistenti o semplici abbozzi. Di conseguenza è possibile correggere o modificare, secondo le linee guida di Wikipedia e della licenza GNU, i suddetti iperlink in un secondo momento ovvero quando tale disguido sarà risolto, senza inficiare la qualità della pagina stessa, né tanto meno censurarla parzialmente o integralmente rimuovendone i contenuti, ribadisco, per improprio senso del dovere od appartenenza ad ideologie in contrasto con i contenuti ivi pubblicati. Difatti, preciso nuovamente, gli argomenti trattati non solo sono complessi e delicati per la loro natura in sé, ma in quanto espressi anche attraverso definizioni legali ed amministrative tipiche del Common Law per cui il riferimento alle voci dell'edizione inglese di Wikipedia diviene necessario per una comprensione esaustiva dell'utente.

Le linee guida di Wikipedia e la licenza GNU: I contenuti da me pubblicati sono sotto piena licenza GNU. Wikipedia non consente l’uso di iperlink che reindirizzano l’utente l’edizione inglese, ma in questo caso ciò è dovuto a mio parere in quanto le voci nell'edizione italiana sono inesistenti o semplici abbozzi e gli argomenti trattati non solo sono complessi e delicati per la loro natura in sé, ma in quanto espressi anche attraverso definizioni legali ed amministrative tipiche del Common Law. D'altro canto la versione precedente non rispetta ugualmente le linee guida di Wikipedia per due ragioni: 1) in quanto mero copiato di qualche riga della versione inglese, decontestualizzate ovvero COINTELPRO è stata ridimensionata ad un’operazioncina sotto copertura dell’FBI senza vittime 2) la voce in questione è più scarna di quella di un dizionario.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.247.98.48 (talk • contribs)

The Italian Wikipedia article already has an article at it:COINTELPRO. I'm afraid I can't help you further. -- The Anome (talk) 20:52, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

I know that there is an article on COINTELPRO in the Italian wikipedia, but I wanted to modify it because it is a misleading copy of a few lines of the English edition. I'm sorry you can't do anything, but I thank you for listening to me.

Tech News: 2019-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 August. It will be on all wikis from 8 August (calendar).

Problems

• A change in RelatedArticles extension accidentally enabled it for everyone, not just for mobile users. This has been fixed. [88][89]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Today everyone can see IP addresses if someone edits without an account. In the future this could be more hidden. This is to protect unregistered editors so fewer can see their IP address. This would only happen after we make sure the tools for vandal fighting can still be effective. You can read more and comment.

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13:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

"coord missing"

Anomebot2 recently added { { coord missing | France } } to the Berliet article. Why? What is the intention? Jan olieslagers (talk) 17:16, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

This was an error. {{coord missing}} is a marker that an article is probably eligible for geocoding. In this case, it was because the article was marked with Category:Buildings and structures in the Metropolis of Lyon, which was sufficient to convince the Anomebot that it had a specific location. This is clearly wrong in this case, so I've reverted the edit. -- The Anome (talk) 17:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for quick reply and action. Still I am left a bit baffled: what is geocoding (in the Wikipedia context) and what is the good of it? Excuse me for stupidity... Jan olieslagers (talk) 17:22, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

If you look at an article like London, New York, or most other individual populated places (and also many structures and landmarks) you will notice that the article has latitude/longitude coordinates visible. If you click on those, it will take you to a map showing the location. The geocodes also have numerous other uses, for example in cross-referencing Wikipedia articles with entities in other databases and to provide geographic browsing of Wikipedia. You can find out more at the project page Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. -- The Anome (talk) 17:27, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

I am well aware of the coordinates given, actually I am a regular user of the facility. But I had no idea there was some kind of automaton to add them; nor does it seem a very good idea to me to try and have one. But who would I be to meddle? Thanks again! Jan olieslagers (talk) 17:35, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

You're welcome: I'm glad you find them useful. There's actually a whole loosely-coupled ecosystem of bot operators, database maintainers, and human editors all working away at putting these coordinates in and checking them: we are up to a million articles now, and we're still going as Wikipedia grows ever larger. -- The Anome (talk) 18:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Range Block

Would you consider shortening your range block of 216.56.0.0/16 to somewhere near the end of August, to coincide with the start of the fall semester? Virtually every primary, secondary and tertiary school in Wisconsin uses WiscNet, this range's ISP. Thanks for your thoughts! -- Dolotta (talk) 03:35, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@Dolotta: I've changed the block end date to 29 August. I hope this helps. -- The Anome (talk) 07:54, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

• Well appreciated. Thanks a million! -- Dolotta (talk) 13:32, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools. Feedback on the discussion page is appreciated. [90]
• Due to the absence of volunteer maintenance of Cologne Blue skin, the link to activate it will be hidden. The skin will still work, but editors using it are encouraged to switch to another skin. [91]

Changes later this week

• Due to Wikimania, there is no deployment this week. [92]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The "Wikidata item" link will be moved from "Tools" to "In other projects" section on all Wikimedia projects, starting on August 21. Full announcement, Phabricator task.

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18:19, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

"One last big job" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect One last big job. Since you had some involvement with the One last big job redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  01:08, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

I need help

Anyone can edit the same topics because of their interests but a IP address thinks that Ilm RainbowSilver dispite being different person. SpinnerLaserz (talk) 03:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

• There will be no Tech News issue next week. The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 2 September 2019.

Problems

• Some abuse filters stopped working because of a code change. Only variables for the current action will work. Variables defined inside a branch may not work outside of that branch. You can read more to see how to fix the filters.
• Only six accounts can be created from one IP address per day. Between 12 August and August 15 this was two accounts per day. This was because of a security issue. It is now six accounts per day again. [93]

Changes later this week

• Only a limited number of accounts can be created from one IP address. An IP address can be whitelisted so that it can create as many accounts as needed. This is useful at events where many new persons learn to edit. IP addresses that are whitelisted for this reason will also not show CAPTCHAs when you create accounts. This will happen on Wednesday. [94]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 August. It will be on all wikis from 22 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• There is an RFC about creating a new global user group with the right to edit abuse filters. This will be used to fix broken filters and make sure all filters will still work when software changes happen. You can read more and comment.
• Special:Contributions/newbies will no longer be working. This is because of performance reasons. It showed edits by new accounts. You can see this in the recent changes feed instead. [95]

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15:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

"Wikipedia:Why aren't these pages copy-edited" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Why aren't these pages copy-edited. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Why aren't these pages copy-edited redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. -- Tavix ^(talk) 00:14, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

"Waterloo Station" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Waterloo Station. Since you had some involvement with the Waterloo Station redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Z5split (talk) 18:24, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

BLP Article tagged by Anomiebot

Hi, I have reverted Anomebot's edit Special:Diff/899259130/909464472 to Michael Holman (priest) as it is a BLP article. Do you know why the article was selected for coord tagging? By the way, I am impressed by Anomebot's productivity. TSventon (talk) 09:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

@TSventon: Wow! Thanks for spotting this. That should not have happened; the presence of Category:living people is supposed to block all coordinate edits. I will investigate further. -- The Anome (talk) 12:36, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Were you able to investigate this and did you find any explanation? TSventon (talk) 14:34, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

Hello, I'm Me-123567-Me. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Template:GPC have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the help desk. Thanks. Me-123567-Me (talk) 19:26, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

@Me-123567-Me: Hi there! I'm surprised you made that revert. I've made clear my justifcation for the edit on Template talk:GPC. I'd also note that decorating templates like this is a slippery slope that ends up with every infobox being decorated in bright party colours. -- The Anome (talk) 21:23, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can use the new termbox interface if you edit Wikidata on a mobile device. This is to edit labels, descriptions and aliases easier on the mobile pages. [96]
• The new version of MediaWiki has been deployed during the last week.
• The previously announced change of positions of the "Wikidata item" link on all wikis has been rollbacked due to unexpected cache issues. [97]
• The limit for rollbacks has been increased from 10 to 100 rollbacks per minute. [98]
• The advanced version of the edit review pages (Recent Changes, Watchlist, and Related Changes) now include two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces. However the "All discussions" filter does not include pseudo talk pages, like discussions that are in the Project: or Wikipedia: namespaces. But it will include changes happening on Project talk: or the Wikipedia talk:. [99]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 September. It will be on all wikis from 5 September (calendar).
• When you log in, the software checks your password to see if it follows the Password policy. From this week, it will also complain if your password is one of the most common passwords in the world. If your password is not strong enough, please consider to change your password for a stronger password. [100]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikidata for up to 30 minutes on September 10 at 05:00 (UTC). [101]
• You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes September 17 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [102]
• You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes September 24 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [103]
• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for up to 30 minutes on September 26 at 05:00 (UTC). [104]

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09:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Nazism template

If you think the template should be changed, you should discuss that on the talk page. However, ramming your head against the wall probably won't make your line of argument more convincing but is instead likely to be considered vandalism.--Hildeoc (talk) 18:53, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I was in the process of doing so when you re-reverted. Our edits crossed one another. -- The Anome (talk) 18:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Six years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:28, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Last week's Tech News had delivery problems. Some did not get the newsletter. Some got it more than one time. The problem where some pages got it three times should now be fixed. [105]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 October. It will be on all wikis from 3 October (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 2 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working on a watchlist expiry feature. This means you can put things on your watchlist for a period of time instead of forever. They are looking for feedback on the questions they have.
• Special:Contributions will get the standard OOUI look. This makes it easier to use on mobile and makes it look like other Special: pages. There is a script you can use to make the form smaller if you want to. [106]

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16:51, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The abuse filter function now has a faster parser. This is to shorten the waiting time when you save an edit. [107]

Problems

• There is a problem in the visual editor when you copy or delete text with footnotes. It will be fixed soon. [108]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 October. It will be on all wikis from 10 October (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 9 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Community Wishlist Survey has a new format. It will focus on wikis that typically get less support. It will probably go back to the normal format next year. It is not decided exactly how it will work this year. You can leave feedback.
• The URL of the Wikimedia wiki main pages could be changed. This is because the current URLs cause several problems. For example https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page would be https://www.wikidata.org/ instead. You can tell the developers if this would cause problems for your wiki.
• There is a new technical community newsletter. You can read more about the work of Wikimedia's technical community. Subscribe to get the information in the future.
• Outreachy is an internship program for groups who are underrepresented in free and open-source software. There are seven Wikimedia projects about coding, documentation and quality assurance in the next round. Persons who fit the criteria can apply. The last day to apply is 5 November.

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15:36, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of SHRED

The article SHRED has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No RIS since 2007. Not notable

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Mccapra (talk) 09:50, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now use more advanced editing tools on the mobile web. You can turn them on and off in your preferences in the mobile version. [109]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 October. It will be on all wikis from 17 October (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 16 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Internet Explorer 6 and 7 are no longer supported. This means the browsers might start looking a bit weird. They will not get security support. You can't read Wikimedia wikis in Internet Explorer on Windows XP or Windows versions that are older than Windows XP. This is because almost no one uses the browsers anymore. Supporting them made the wikis less secure for everyone else. [110]
• In the future section headings might have a share link. This is to make it easier to link to the section. You can read more and discuss.

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23:55, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Genital insert

The article Genital insert has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

We don't even have an article on anatomical models. I can't find any indication that this feature of some models is so notable that it requires its own article.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:07, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Delete away. We should have an article on anatomical models, though. -- The Anome (talk) 22:24, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

But the Preece reference has now placed this inside my head, and I can't get it out. — Ched (talk) 14:09, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages – October 2019

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Inside this newsletter, the Editing team talks about their work on the mobile visual editor, on the new talk pages project, and at Wikimania 2019.

Help

What talk page interactions do you remember? Is it a story about how someone helped you to learn something new? Is it a story about how someone helped you get involved in a group? Something else? Whatever your story is, we want to hear it!

Please tell us a story about how you used a talk page. Please share a link to a memorable discussion, or describe it on the talk page for this project. The team would value your examples. These examples will help everyone develop a shared understanding of what this project should support and encourage.

Talk Pages

The Talk Pages Consultation was a global consultation to define better tools for wiki communication. From February through June 2019, more than 500 volunteers on 20 wikis, across 15 languages and multiple projects, came together with members of the Foundation to create a product direction for a set of discussion tools. The Phase 2 Report of the Talk Page Consultation was published in August. It summarizes the product direction the team has started to work on, which you can read more about here: Talk Page Project project page.

The team needs and wants your help at this early stage. They are starting to develop the first idea. Please add your name to the "Getting involved" section of the project page, if you would like to hear about opportunities to participate.

Mobile visual editor

The Editing team is trying to make it simpler to edit on mobile devices. The team is changing the visual editor on mobile. If you have something to say about editing on a mobile device, please leave a message at Talk:VisualEditor on mobile.

Edit Cards

What happens when you click on a link. The new Edit Card is bigger and has more options for editing links.

• On 3 September, the Editing team released version 3 of Edit Cards. Anyone could use the new version in the mobile visual editor.
• There is an updated design on the Edit Card for adding and modifying links. There is also a new, combined workflow for editing a link's display text and target.
• Feedback: You can try the new Edit Cards by opening the mobile visual editor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Edit cards talk page.

Toolbar

The editing toolbar is changing in the mobile visual editor. The old system had two different toolbars. Now, all the buttons are together. Tell the team what you think about the new toolbar.

• In September, the Editing team updated the mobile visual editor's editing toolbar. Anyone could see these changes in the mobile visual editor.
  • One toolbar: All of the editing tools are located in one toolbar. Previously, the toolbar changed when you clicked on different things.
  • New navigation: The buttons for moving forward and backward in the edit flow have changed.
  • Seamless switching: an improved workflow for switching between the visual and wikitext modes.
• Feedback: You can try the refreshed toolbar by opening the mobile VisualEditor on a smartphone. Please post your feedback on the Toolbar feedback talk page.

Wikimania

The Editing Team attended Wikimania 2019 in Sweden. They led a session on the mobile visual editor and a session on the new talk pages project. They tested two new features in the mobile visual editor with contributors. You can read more about what the team did and learned in the team's report on Wikimania 2019.

Looking ahead

• Talk Pages Project: The team is thinking about the first set of proposed changes. The team will be working with a few communities to pilot those changes. The best way to stay informed is by adding your username to the list on the project page: Getting involved.
• Testing the mobile visual editor as the default: The Editing team plans to post results before the end of the calendar year. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: VisualEditor as mobile default project page.
• Measuring the impact of Edit Cards: The Editing team hopes to share results in November. This study asks whether the project helped editors add links and citations. The best way to stay informed is by adding the project page to your watchlist: Edit Cards project page.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)