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"My Friend the Sun"
[edit]The problem with this article is that none of the sources that you have added so far indicate its supposed reliability. Prog Archives and Only Solitaire are not reliable sources, they are group blogs and don't pass WP:RS. 45cat and Discogs are just directory listing sites that only indicated the song exists, but don't show how or why it is notable. Richard3120 (talk) 14:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- Added refs from Record World and Record Mirror. SethWhales talk 05:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I've seen that... thanks for doing that, I'm good with the article now. Richard3120 (talk) 15:47, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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Work of William Burges at Cardiff Castle
[edit]Hope you liked it. I wrote it when User:Hchc2009 and I were going to try to take Cardiff Castle to FAC. Unfortunately, H retired before we got round to it. The plan was to freshen up the GA he'd done for the castle, basically the History section, and splice in the WB stuff, as part of an expanded Architecture section. If you were interested, I'd be delighted to work with you on it. That said, I know FA isn't everyone's cup of tea. Anyways, let me know. The castle is so iconic for Cardiff, it really does deserve an FA. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 18:09, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I have tried for FA previously. The result of that was I decided only to create new articles or general editing of existing ones. So I really edit for the fun of it now, rather than the "torture" of reviews. So I don't bother with GAs, DYKs or FAs. Having said that, I am willing to do work to help you achieve FA (if I am able to). Nevertheless, I am still dead impressed by your FAs that you have achieved, congratulations.
- I do live in Cardiff, so if you need photos (when the lockdown is over - if ever) I can certainly help that way too. KR. SethWhales talk 20:58, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent - I shall dust down the sandbox in which H and I prepared the draft and we can have a look at what needs to be done. I actually don’t think it will be a huge task: H has given us a strong GA History foundation, which will just need refreshing to make sure we’re up to date on the current sources/happenings. I think it’s the architecture that really needs work. It’s mostly Burges, but there’s Roman/Medieval/Brown/Holland/20th century that will also need covering. But all doable. I’ll be in touch shortly. It is surprising, given the large number of images of the castle that Commons has, how few are rated as Quality/Good/Featured images. That might need rectifying, when we can emerge from our burrows! KJP1 (talk) 18:56, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
A Wales of a time
[edit]Howdy. If National Assembly for Wales is moved to Senedd Cymru or Senedd? Trust me, a battle royale will occur if anybody later tries to move it to Welsh Parliament, no matter what the sources show by then. Anyway, I hope Welsh Parliament will be mentioned in the intro or infobox, for us english only readers. :) GoodDay (talk) 10:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed, but sometime we do need to compromise, even if that is normally not in my vocabulary! In reality, people in south east Wales (where I live), find in impossible to pronounce areas of Cardiff, such as Pontprennau....they usually say Pont-pren-now, instead of Pont-prenn-eye, so the idea that they will use Senedd Cymru is a non-starter. It is interesting to do a Google Advanced Search right now on Welsh Parliament (About 85,700 results) and Senedd Cymru (About 210,000 results). Welsh Parliament MUST be in the first line of the lead. I will ensure that this happens. You may not know that I got the Senedd building to Good Article, so I am not anti-Welsh language at all, far from it. However it is the English Wikipedia, not https://cy.wikipedia.org/. Keep in touch. SethWhales talk 13:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
June 2020 at Women in Red
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The article Senedd on television has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
I am unaware of any similar articles for other legislatures, and this article doesn't seem to be particularly valuable and is also not very long. The content can be moved to the main article about the Senedd.
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Hi, I noticed that the reference you added (14 May 2020) pointing to the Theatres Trust website includes "publisher=BBC". I am a bit puzzled by this as I can find no connection between the Theatres Trust and the BBC. Am I misunderstanding or missing something here? FrankSier (talk) 21:07, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Nomination of Senedd on television for deletion
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Hi Seth
Re: the "non album A sides" thing you put in back in June on the Singles list. Please can you do something similar for the non album B-sides? I find it unsatifactory to have different systems for non album A sides and non album B sides, particularly as T.Rex singles were related to their natural parent album as often - or even more often, especially during the Tyrannosaurus Rex era - via their B side.
(This was not an entirely unusual situation for the 1960s/1970s - Pink Floyd's first Top 10 hit See Emily Play was a non-album A Side with an album track B side, The Scarecrow.)
My first reaction was to revert your edit but I reverted my revert as (1) it did something funny to the table, probably because of the added Australian chart placings (2) anyway I thought maybe I should be more constructive about this and work with you rather than just revert stuff.
If you could create a similar script thing for the non album B-sides, that would be appreciated, even if they have to be created manually. Romomusicfan (talk) 18:11, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- Done Is this what you were looking for?.....I like your comments on your user page. My favourite was Les Kellett and his bouts with Brian Glover (known in wrestling as Leon Arras) were legendary (have a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_zPH3u65H8 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmQVNxKF940 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMh--WcGhiU).....SethWhales talk 23:18, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Yes, I tried to do it the way you did it but for some reason it wouldn't work for me, so I concluded that the "non album A side" cell must be some generically proided auto-format set up on Wikipedia. Reverting was idea number two, but as you can see that didn't work. Idea number three I had was to try and recreate the formatting of the "non album A side" cells manually, but I didn't know how to code the correct shade of shading, so idea number four was to be a good boy about it and work with you. In the end you somehow did what I was attempting to do originally. Thanks anyway.
- I grew up with British Wrestling as my home territory (as I usually say to American fans online). My teens coincided nicely with All Star Wrestling's golden era of the late 1980s/early 1990s with Kendo Nagasaki in his second prime as All Star's lead heel (still a big fan of his to this day.) I think in adult life I've become very much a "purist" fan and get the most satisfaction from serious "clean" bouts between two blue-eyes I particularly like Johnny Saint and the generation of younger lighter wrestlers that came along in the mid 1980s such as Danny Boy Collins, "Nipper" Eddie Riley and Mark "Kid McCoy" Boothman. I only wish we had better access to Granada TV's archive of b/w kinescope prints of 1960s wrestling so we could properly see George Kidd in his prime or the legends of Riley's Gym such as pre-North America Billy Robinson. Billy Joyce, Tommy "Jack Dempsey" Moore, Ernie Riley etc etc. I'm glad to report that the art of the Great British Old School Clean Match is alive and well in the C21st (or certainly was pre-pandemic) in the hands of James Mason, Dean Allmark, Tony Spitfire and others.Romomusicfan (talk) 02:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- You are very welcome......I've just been looking around the wrestling Wikipedia articles. I just can't believe that Mark Rocco has just recently died. Kendo Nagasaki was up there with the likes Mick McManus, Jackie Pallo, Mike Marino, Goldbelt Maxine, and Adrian Street IMHO. I can't believe that Bobby Barnes (Adrian Street's tag team partner) isn't on Wikipedia....maybe my next article??? Who knows. Best wishes. SethWhales talk 13:19, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- If you're into Adrian Street, here's a recommendation - a 1972 heel vs heel match against Jim Breaks which ends up going to a 1-1 draw, with the referee effectively as the blue-eye for actually keeping control (he only has to dish out one public warning in the final few seconds) and managing to get a good scientific match out of these two notorious villains.Romomusicfan (talk) 19:30, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
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November edith-a-thons from Women in Red
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December with Women in Red
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New Page Patrol December Newsletter
[edit]Hello Seth Whales,
- Year in review
It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
| Rank | Username | Num reviews | Log |
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| 1 | DannyS712 bot III (talk) | 67,552 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 2 | Rosguill (talk) | 63,821 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 3 | John B123 (talk) | 21,697 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 4 | Onel5969 (talk) | 19,879 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 5 | JTtheOG (talk) | 12,901 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 6 | Mcampany (talk) | 9,103 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 7 | DragonflySixtyseven (talk) | 6,401 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 8 | Mccapra (talk) | 4,918 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 9 | Hughesdarren (talk) | 4,520 | Patrol Page Curation |
| 10 | Utopes (talk) | 3,958 | Patrol Page Curation |
- Reviewer of the Year
John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.
- NPP Technical Achievement Award
As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.
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A New Year With Women in Red!
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Fletcher Moss Rangers F.C.
[edit]Maybe create the article in draft and we can take a view? GiantSnowman 19:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Forget it...after 13 years of editing, I don't do "drafts" for anyone. Not one single article that I've created has ever been deleted. SethWhales talk 20:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
April editathons from Women in Red
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Wiki Loves Earth (Wales)
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Bore da!
For the first time, Wales will be taking part in the international photo competition Wiki Loves Earth this year. It really is a fantastic competition! All the images need to be upload in June, by the photographer.
Please take a look at our WLE (Wales) landing page for further information:
Having taken photos for Wiki Loves Monuments in the past, I though, maybe, you would like to join us - and keep fit at the same time!
Pob hwyl
Robin, Wikimedia UK, (aka - Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC))
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July 2021 at Women in Red
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August Editathons with Women in Red
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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
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Hello Seth Whales,
Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.
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At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.
There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.
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ITN recognition for Richard Rogers
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