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thank you! :) i am not web developing savvy and all of these codes are very new for me, but i am improving as i go and i am glad because i am learning something new :) but, for example, right now i don't even know where to write my response to your reply, i wrote on my talk page and then came here and i'm not even sure it's the right place, haha. thanks again! oh, and i think i messed up your talk page! sorry :/ Ketty Mora (talk) 19:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

A reference in Turkish

Hi, I see that you have added references to articles about three Ottoman grand viziers. Thanks for the contributions. Danişmend's book is a reliable source, but it is in Turkish. Excuse me for my curiosity. Do you know Turkish ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Fishy

I don't see the problem with this. It's stubby. Some of the fish pages I've seen are one line, an infobox, & a stub tag. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 18:18, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I can only say I screwed something up somewhere.... I'm not sure how. :( TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 23:31, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Science lovers wanted!

Science lovers wanted!

Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Wikipedia about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! SarahStierch (talk) 03:56, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Image problem

You recently uploaded File:PhosphoriaFm.jpg but forgot to add a source and copyright tag. I assume you are familiar with doing this but if not consult WP:IUP, just ask me or the media copyright questions page. ww2censor (talk) 04:43, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Wheeling Park High School

The local media outlets called it a 'race war' at one time and that is what it is known as around the school and around the area, but unfortunately those articles were never posted on the internet. Also if you looked at my revised edit after reading your complaint, I did NOT put in the staff and there were also many problems with the article. It said the J.B. chambers performing arts center had four floors. The catwalk is not a floor. Also they had the wrong enrollment (2,000) when the West Virginia Department of Education says otherwise. I was trying to make the article as fair as possible as it says on the top of the article it is written as an advertisement. I tried to make it as neutral as possible and that includes those incidents. sportsfan123456789

User pages and signatures

teach me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcgamelover4life (talk • contribs) 17:06, 15 December 2012 (UTC) USERPAGES AND SIGNATURES. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pcgamelover4life (talk • contribs) 15:21, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

In response to your feedback

do you mean this Dj hollygrove? if so, the reasons for all those old deletions shouldn't matter anymore. If you need any help editing, let us know

Ryan shell (talk) 02:57, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

 

DJ Hollygrove was deleted once again and I saw that someone else was also making a fuss about it! Macbookbro1 (talk) 00:01, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of POLARIS (seismology)

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A kitten for you!

you are cool

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Hi Ryan. This should help you write a solid first article. If you have any specific questions, I'd suggest you direct them to the Teahouse. Thanks. Go Phightins! 15:46, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

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Thank you for your concern

Well its true rules are there to protect against biting other new or non-admin users,but this is just the half of the truth only, because the same rules are there to scare you off and the same rules are used by more experience users and admins to enforce what they think its correct,those users who are very good at making many threatens to new comers about you are breaking rules, you are gonna be banned etc.. adding for being accused from being disruptive,hinting about you are not honest,and finally listening to expressions as idiocy about your opinion,how in this world someone thins your opinion is an idiocy gonna take the discussion seriously?so yea the rules say we should discuss it so go to discussion for sake of following it not to make a real discussions about differences and solve it ,All what you are going to face at talk pages what I told you above,and since they had been long time wiki users,they seem work as groups working together so their is no way to really gain consensus (if you were lucky enough to push them into one ) or what would probably happen you say whatever you want but no one is really listening to you. like how in this world some admin can classified something as trivia while its classified on official website as a record?!I know its the club who owns the record official website classified and showing it as records but after all its an official website isn't it?! how come his own opinion is more valued than an official referenced website??how he has the power to ask another friend to impose a ban over editing this page for two weeks from further editing and ask you to discuss it while in over two weeks they didn't bother to answer you at all? all these questions lead you to the answers I told you about above,I sent my concerns before to some admin but he never really answered me,

anyway it doesn't matter anymore so don't get me wrong i don't care anymore about any of these pages because basically I'm not going to edit anymore its just time consuming to go into all these every time and listening to unnecessary insults. when i started editing i felt its easy way to pay back for wikipedia but now i know enough to be aware of how its works(maybe just in sport sections i worked with)and how its not as nice as it looks from outside .

Thank you for taking time to read all this .and happy new year .

Adnan_n2 Talk 12:03, 3rd Jan 2013 (UTC) .

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	Wow you are really smart!! thanks for explaining that really well!! Gshaddix (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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	You like to give advice i like that in somebody. Gshaddix (talk) 19:56, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Follow up

First of all I did not personally "attack" anyone here/. this website is based on user reviews and relying on it's users. I feel insulted by what you people did. Now I'm attacking you RYAN SHELL. I feel personally insulted now by you and your colleague. Ban me if you want, but you sir have no scruples.

Zamor's Url discussions

Mr. Ryan shell: I invite you to read the compilation of the discussions in my talk page here to receive your advise. Thanks —Preceding undated comment added 17:34, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Grand Prince Royal Jinan

Dear, Wiki administrators.

I was quite angry because you guys blocked my legitimate article on Grand Prince Jinan. After all, this is quite personal because he is my (figuratively speaking) grandfather and Sejong the great is our ancestor’s baby brother. So, I was angry cause you were challenging me.

My article is posted and legitimately posted. My other agents are stop working for your sake. Unblock my website. It is pretty legitimate website that you shouldn’t tinker with, or you can come to South Korea to deal with me.

Lee, Jyong Chul.
Founder and CEO
The Korean Monarchy and the Korean Royal Armed Forces Korea Reunification Party
(22nd in line House of Grand Prince Royal Jinan)

Kulaksiz Court Cases - North Cyprus

Ryan,

Thank you for your recent comments advising me to try and address the reviewers comments as to why my submissions are rejected.

When a reviewer simply puts (not supported by reliable sources) it really isn't helpful.

Here is my submission again. I have gone 'literally one sentence/claim at a time' in order to justify each sentence, and I have literally quoted newspaper articles, and re-worded (albeit closely) claims and comments by journalists.

More specific feedback would be far more helpful, but I can't get it.

I now run into month 4 of work on this. 4 months, to get one article published. Once i got a comment from an editor that said "well doesn't that tell you something?". Actually, in my view, it isn't up to 4 wiki editors whether or not the world gets access to or is entitled to read about the events in North Cyprus. It should be published, and the interest in the article should speak for itself.

Please help, once again. As for your other suggestion, just publish it and hope for the best, I have no idea how to do that. Please help again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kulaksiz_5_Court_Cases

ThanksToZero (talk) 09:18, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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	Thank you Ryan, you are the first to be really positive and really helpful. ToZero (talk) 21:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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Who r u?--PercytheGreenEngine (talk) 17:20, 10 January 2013 (UTC)PercytheGreenEngine

Reply to feedback

Hi Ryan,

Many thanks for your response to my feedback, I have spoken to Mean as Custard and he said that the reason my edits were removed was because "They seemed designed to promote a particular company's products", however given that they are in keeping with the lists they were added to, do you think it would be ok for me to undo his changes? He has not responded to my latest comment.

Many thanks SCBerry (talk) 10:04, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

feedback

Thanks for your response. My idea was to have a guided tutorial, which users would have to do before editing anything. Well, not a huge deal anyway.--Dravidianhero (talk) 22:08, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

A little help

Hi Ryan! I'm a beginner and I have a problem that may be stupid, so I prefer to discuss it with you :-)  : I made a page for a best friend, Carmine Zoccali, an important colleague. Firstly I made the back bone of the page (and I was notified for deleting it because the lack of references), after some day I completed the page and the warning disappeared. The problem: when I open the page in a PC I see only the backbone of the page (the old version!) with the deleting warning. If immediately I make the login I can see the complete version (without the warning!). I'm confused! Why this happens? Where may I have some help? Thank you! Mauro561 Mauro561 (talk) 06:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Elisabeth Couperus-Baud

Dear Ryan, please could you have a look at the draft version here? Best wishes, Menke66 (talk) 11:48, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Dear Ryan, how do I change my sandbox (Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Elisabeth Couperus-Baud back to the original sandbox? Best wishes, Menke66 (talk) 11:04, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Editing Format

Has Wikipedia ever considered using a more simple and user-friendly approach to editing, as seen on Wikia? I'm Richer! (talk) 02:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Coastrange sculpin

I've identified a few small issues with the citations; could you please fix them? Once those are done (and they should be easy), it will be ready to go. Please notify me when you're done, lest I forget to come back soon. Nyttend (talk) 17:14, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

See here. Nyttend (talk) 18:48, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hi and thank you again for the "little help" (above). another problem: recently in the same page (Carmine Zoccali) the photo was removed. I'm unable to understand why and how I can add again a photo without violating wikipedia rules. Can you help me? Thank you again! Mauro561 (talk) 19:51, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Coastrange sculpin

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Hey Ryan shell; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Dinosaur-bearing rock formations

I think making it a directory would work. I'm not sure why the formations listed are still in the original old article. Maybe I didn't disperse them to the child articles? Hmm... they seem to be listed in their proper child articles. I'll make a sandbox in my userspace in case we need it for something and convert the article to a directory. Thanks for calling my attention to this. Abyssal (talk) 16:23, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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meteorwrongs

I am looking for help to publish this article properly. Can you help me ?

                                     METEORWRONGS ?

Scientific considerations about the classification of meteorites.

THE MANTRA "OUT OF DATA" Zackaryas (talk) 01:07, 21 August 2014 (UTC)Most people think that advances in science, allows us to find quick answers to any question; without considering that this is precisely what leads to mistakes.

All researchers in any field of science recognize the need for parameters, as a way to develop various research works. With this intention they have come in to develop what is called a Field Work.

In most sciences is used this methodology and in the meteorites study, scientists proceeds in the same way.

But, the true researcher knows that all the data found are "relative" to the number of samples studied and therefore, these are not absolute values.

This is so done for the need of "to have parameters" but the good researcher is aware that at any time could appear new samples with ratios different.

But some bush league of science, who have no idea how it work or how it is carried out scientific research work. consider these parameters as fixed and immovable. They believe that when we referring to scientific rigor, is referring to the parameters found, instead of the method used.(They confuse scientific rigor with rigor mortis.) LOL

In this order of ideas we should consider that in all research work there are some general data equals for all species or issues being studied and a particular data for the different types that were found.

Logically in a supposed meteorite,the first thing that expects to see a expert is the "fusion crust" and then, in the case of an iron meteorite,view contents of Ni.

This is the easy way... but when no fusion crust and the iron content is below the known ratios, then the issue is complicates and is further complicates when you find there are other evidences of extraterrestrial origin as, Carbon spherules (nano-diamond) and threads of metallic iron (100% pure).

Meteorite Identifications. As a general data (also relative) we found in meteorites: 1) They have Fusion Crust ... but it may be gone. 2) They are attracted by a magnet...weakly or strongly. 3) The most common or iron meteorites, present Newman lines or Widmanstatten pattern. 4) They have a different density than terrestrial rocks, etc.. All this information allows us to identify the sample as a meteorite.

Meteorite Classifications. As particular data, have us different ratios in the chemical composition found in the samples being studied and this allow us to establish a classification of different types of meteorites, and here is where there is a greater variation among the data collected.

Now. Since the Chemical Composition in meteorites is not homogeneous, the ratios only are useful as an aid for a Chemical Classification and Structural Classification but not to prove authenticity.

Without doubt the data are a valuable aid, but to say that a sample is not a meteorite because it has or does not have such proportion of elements in its chemical composition , is a worthless review. Seek additional information.

Let's look at this as an example. -

In irons meteorite the chemical composition is dominated by the elements Fe, Ni and Co, which make up more than 95%. Ni is always present; the concentration is nearly always higher than 5% and may be as high as about 25%.[8] A significant percentage of nickel can be used in the field to distinguish meteorite irons from man-made iron products, which usually contain lower amounts of Ni, but it is not enough to prove meteorite origin. (Wikipedia)

Widmanstatten pattern or Neumann lines. Most Iron meteorites show the Widmanstatten pattern or Neumann lines; these marks have been studied enough and certainly demonstrate the extraterrestrial origin of a sample. In very doubtful cases, for identification of a sample, we can make an isotopic study.

Now let's look in Iron meteorites.. Among meteorites low in Ni we found the Hexahedrite. Hexahedrite after etching, do not display a Widmanstatten pattern, but they may present Neumann lines. Now, among meteorites high in Ni, we found: The Tetrataenite (51.24 % Ni) This meteorites have a little more than twice the proportion of Ni averaged. (More even: Ataxites have very high nickel and no Widmanstätten pattern.) - Wikipedia - This allows us to consider that it is very easy for an expert, committing a mistake, when trying to determine whether or not a sample is a meteorite, based on the contents of NI.

Structural classification. (From Wikipedia) The older structural classification is based on the presence or absence of the Widmanstätten pattern, which can be assessed from the appearance of polished cross-sections that have been etched with acid. This is connected with the relative abundance of nickel to iron. The categories are:

Hexahedrites (H): low nickel, no Widmanstätten pattern, may present Neumann lines; Octahedrites (O): average to high nickel, Widmanstätten patterns, most common class. They can be further divided up on the basis of the width of the kamacite lamellae from coarsest to finest.[11] Coarsest (Ogg): lamellae width > 3.3 mm Coarse (Og): lamellae width 1.3-3.3 mm Medium (Om): lamellae width 0.5-1.3 mm Fine (Of): lamellae width 0.2-0.5 mm Finest (Off): lamellae width < 0.2 mm Plessitic (Opl): a transitional structure between octahedrites and ataxites Ataxites (D): very high nickel, no Widmanstätten pattern, rare.

A little more about this. Excerpt from "Systematics and Evaluation of Meteorite Classification." Michael K. Weisberg,Kingsborough Community College of the City University of New York and American Museum of Natural History. Timothy J. McCoy,Smithsonian Institution Alexander N. Krot,University of Hawai‘i at Manoa

8.2. The Future of Classification The evolution of meteorite classification necessitates a continuing influx of new samples and continuing efforts to determine their petrologic characteristics and bulk chemical and O-isotopic compositions. While classification schemes will continue to evolve, in both the groups of meteorites and the techniques used to classify them, one of the ultimate goals of classification is to put meteorites into geologic context. In many respects, most classification is simply an effort to deduce the kind of information that the terrestrial field geologist knows when they collect their samples (where the samples came from and what their spatial relationship was to the rocks around it). In the next few decades, it is quite possible that missions to asteroids, Mars, the Moon, and comets will allow us to place meteorites in geologic context and, ultimately, the goal should be to say this meteorite came from this asteroid/type or asteroid/family of asteroids. http://haroldconnolly.com/EES%20716%20Fall%2009%20Reading/Lecture%201/Background%20reading/Weisberg_etal_MESSII.pdf

And as information.- About Field research or fieldwork http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_research Field research involves a range of well-defined, although variable, methods: informal interviews, direct observation, participation in the life of the group, collective discussions, analysis of personal documents produced within the group, self-analysis, results from activities undertaken off- or on-line, and life-histories. Although the method generally is characterized as qualitative research, it may (and often does) include quantitative dimensions.

==Ryan, thanks for your advice. I'll take a recess.==Zackaryas (talk) 05:30, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

First distribution of Apollo 11 lunar rocks.

Hello. For my lack of experience on working on Wikipedia, I'm being hindered by the user Bubba73 in my attempt to inform the public the truth about what happened with the first lunar rocks brought by the Apollo 11 mission. This information is in from NASA News Release P69-10177 / Sep 12 1969 / Distributed Moon Surface Samples https://mira.hq.nasa.gov/history/ws/hdmshrc/all/main/DDD/42158.pdf This information is important because it shows the opposite to the NASA's affirmation, when stated "moon rocks to VIP never were give away". Below is the text that I want to add to the page, Stolen and missing Moon rocks. If you agree with the argument of Mr, Bubba 73, who says that this information is not constructive, I ask you explain why , as Mr. Bubba 73 gives no explanation. Never know exactly but according to the following document leaked by mistake from NASA could be about 10.22 kilograms. https://mira.hq.nasa.gov/history/ws/hdmshrc/all/main/DDD/42158.pdf [NEWSN EW S NATIONAL AER~~OWNAAUSTHIICNSG TAONNDD .SCP.A C2E0 5A DMINISTREASTI ON ((22002) ) 99663e.-46195255FOR RELEASE: IMMEDIATE September 12, 1969 RELEASE NO: 69-130 USS4] MOON SURFACE SAMPLES DISTRIBUTED Distribution of about 18 pounds of Moon rocks and dust to scientific investigators around the world begins today at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Manned Spacecraft Center near Houston, Texas. Lunar samples collected by the Apollo 11 astronauts will go to 106 principal investigators in the United States and 36 in eight other countries for analyses in university, l industrial, and government laboratories. The 4.2 kilograms of fine materials and chips and slices of about 30 rocks totaling 4 kilograms are being distributed for first-generation experiments. This makes up about onethird of the lunar materials returned from man's first lunar landing. Another 15 per cent will be kept as examples of the types of material returned from Tranquility Base, where the Apollo 11 Lunar Module landed July 20. The rest will be held for later scientific experiments, from which a small amount may be available on temporary loan for public display. Since its return in sealed containers on July 25, all the material has been under quarantine in the Lunar Receiving Laboratory at the Manned Spacecraft Center where tests on animal and plant life have shown no bad effects. Release of the samples was approved by the Interagency Committee on Back Contamination, set up to review NASA safeguards against the possibility of contamination of the Earth by alien organisimns brought back from the Moon. Preliminary examinations in the Lunar Receiving Laboratory have disclosed that there are two basic rock types: 1) compacted lunar soil and 2) igneous rocks. The preliminary examination has shown that the rocks have been lying on the lunar surface from 10 -150 million years. The igneous rocks crystallized from 3 - 4 billion years ago. Each of the principal investigators or hi, representative mus't personally accept his sample at the Lunar Receiving Laboratory, and his plans for safeguarding the material must have been approved by Manned Spacecraft Center administrative, scientific, and security offici.als. Of the 8.2 kilograms of samples being distributed, approximately 3 kilograms will be destroyed in the course of the planned experiments; the residues and the remaining 5.1 kilograms will be returned to NASA. Investigators plan to report results of their analyses early next year. The types of investigation carried on by the principal investigators include almost every type of ,measurement that has been made on terrestrial igneous rocks or meteorites. The principal types of measurement are: 1. Measurements of physical properties of r(. Ics and soil. These data will help in understanding optical observations of the Moon from Earth as well as future seismic experiments. Studies of miscroscopic fission tracts and cosmic ray induced tracks will help us understand the radiation history of the Moon. 2. Mineralogy and petrology which include the study of the mineral content of the rocks and compositions of these when the rocks crystallized or were formed on the lunar surface. minerals. These studies will show how much water was present The study will also show how surfaces were eroded by particles. 3. Studies of the chemical composition of the rocks and fines. These studies will determine the concentration of virtually every one of the 92 elements that occur on Earth and in meteorites. Determinations of isotopic compositions of strontium lead, and the rare gas elements (Ne, Ar, Kr, and Xe) will determine the times of crystallization of the igneous rocks and the times that rocks have laid on the lunar surface. Studies of the rare gases in the soil will also furnish the first data on isotopic compositions of solar materials. 4. Biologists and organic chemists will determine the structures and relative abundances of compounds of carbon indigenous in, and deposited on, the lunar surface; determine the origin of the indigenous carbon compounds; catalog microstructures in terms of organized elements and microfossils; and define the presence or absence of viable lunar organisms. (...more) "But then, where are this 11,22 kilograms that are missing, because the Apollo 11 brought 21,7 kilograms of samples. (7,23 approx 1/3 were distributed. 3,25 " 15% were kept 11,22 ... paperweights for the desk of VIPs (are missing ? ) 21,70 Total returned. Seems that NASA forgot this document in his book: "Where No Man Has Gone Before" A History of Apollo Lunar Exploration Missions. By W. David Compton. Published as NASA Special Publication - 4214 in the NASA History Series, 1989 Moreover,the statements of these two officials of the State Department is very clear: "NASA turned over he samples to the State Department to distribute," said Jennifer Ross-Nazal, a NASA historian, in a e-mailed response to question. "We don't have any records about when and to whom the rocks were given." "The office of the Historian does not keep records what become of the moon rocks, and to my knowledge, there is no one entity that does so." (e-mailed Tiffany Hamelin, the State Department Historian.) See: http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/2861027/Apollo-moon-rocks-missing. Even more,NASA has never said from where the Good-will Apollo 11 moon rock displays came from. (Wikipedia) Jump up ^ https://mira.hq.nasa.gov/history/ws/hdmshrc/all/main/DDD/42158.pdf Jump up ^ http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/2861027/Apollo-moon-rocks-missing. Jump up ^ "Where No Man Has Gone Before" A History of Apollo Lunar Exploration Missions. By W. David Compton. Published as NASA Special Publication - 4214 in the NASA History Series, 1989

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