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Thank you! Runabout5921 (talk) 16:19, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Sincerely, Novo Tape (She/Her)^{My Talk Page} 17:18, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: 1923 Aeromarine 75 Columbus incident has been accepted

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Other accounts

Please list the other accounts you are using or have used.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:52, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you've continued to edit articles without responding to my request. I'd appreciate a response before you continue editing. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:20, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why do I need to specify the other accounts? There is nothing in the page on having multiple usernames that says that. Runabout5921 (talk) 20:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, undeclared alternative accounts are rarely acceptable. See WP:ILLEGIT and WP:SOCKLEGIT ("Individuals operating undisclosed alternative accounts do so at their own risk and against the recommended operating processes of this project.") Your statement on your userpage ("This isn't my first account, and I still use my older accounts but they are rather disorganized so I will not be linking them here. Also I plan on transitioning over to using this account more than those others but I will still keep the others around.") is troublesome. Not declaring alternative accounts because they are "rather disorganized", whatever that means, strikes me as a poor reason for non-disclosure. Finally, your disclosure and explanation might avoid my filing a report at WP:SPI, if it satisfies me that you are not violating policy.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:25, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23 I will stop using the other accounts then, thank you for letting me know. Runabout5921 (talk) 20:31, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that's not good enough. Perhaps it's best for me to file at SPI.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23 I am not violating policy nor am I trying to sockpuppet in any way. The other accounts are just old ones that I am going to phase out of in favor of this one. Runabout5921 (talk) 20:39, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked as a sockpuppet

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Girth Summit _(blether) 10:32, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

I will identify the other accounts if this is desired.

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Runabout5921 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I am not using any accounts in an abusive way, will name them if this is desired, and understand why there is currently a block against me (I was apparently confused about the multiple accounts thing).

Accept reason:

Unblock accepted per the conditions below. Spicy (talk) 17:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Using multiple undeclared accounts to edit the same articles is considered abusive, because it makes it more difficult for others to scrutinize your edits. That said, I don't think that you are editing in bad faith, and I'm willing to unblock you provided that:

You list every account that you have used on Wikipedia.
You agree to a one-account restriction. Any further use of multiple accounts will result in a reinstatement of the block.

Let me know if you are willing to comply with these conditions. Spicy (talk) 14:19, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spicy - CU indicates that they haven't attempted to evade the block since it was imposed; feel free to lift it without further input from me if you're satisfied by their response to your comments. Girth Summit _(blether) 14:33, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the other accounts are ViewingHabit and Ted Shackelford. Would you like me to post them on my user page?

I think that would be a good idea, yes. I will unblock your account in a moment - thanks for your cooperation. Spicy (talk) 17:33, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Runabout5921 (talk) 20:01, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Editing issue

I am trying to edit my sandbox again but it is blocking me even though I was unblocked, why is this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runabout5921 (talk • contribs)

Girth Summit, I assume this is because autoblock is enabled on the other accounts. Would you be able to change the block settings? (I'd just do it myself, but it's a CU block...) Thanks, Spicy (talk) 22:05, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If Runabout5921 simply stops using the other accounts, the autoblock will clear within 24 hours. --Yamla (talk) 10:13, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It has been 3 days and it is still blocking me, so I think this isn't going to automatically fix itself. Runabout5921 (talk) 14:02, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's been less than one day since you were using another account. --Yamla (talk) 14:28, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The block was lifted on the 7th and it is now the 10th, how is that "less than one day"? Runabout5921 (talk) 14:54, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have

Confirmed that you last used one of the other accounts within the past day. --Yamla (talk) 15:07, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Which one? If they were being used on Wikipedia I am not aware of it. I only use the Ted account to upload files to Wikimedia Commons. Runabout5921 (talk) 17:55, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ted Shackelford was active (that is, logged in; I'm not implying that account made any edits) less than 24 hours ago. --Yamla (talk) 17:58, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That was an automatic login done by my computer. I switched back when I noticed it was displaying the wrong name. Runabout5921 (talk) 18:03, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeap. --Yamla (talk) 18:06, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's working again, thank you! Runabout5921 (talk) 22:39, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My computer keeps logging in the other account even though I deleted it from my saved passwords. Will the block status be changed to prevent this? Runabout5921 (talk) 16:30, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No. --Yamla (talk) 16:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Yamla I am not trying to use the old account, it's just saved on my computer in a way that it automatically logs in sometimes without me doing anything. Runabout5921 (talk) 17:23, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I suggest you fix that. We won't be changing the block on this side. --Yamla (talk) 18:09, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, just wondering. Runabout5921 (talk) 19:31, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Osteoarthritis image

On my talk page, you said: I noticed you reverted my edit on osteoarthritis because of WP:NOTGALLERY and said it was "unconstructive". I respect your decision and do not want to start an editing war but why did you consider the image I inserted to be unconstructive? Just wondering.

The image is a 120+ year old drawing of a rare case of extreme arthritis. The image is neither informative for any purpose in the article nor is it a pleasant image to view. It impressed me as an image just dropped unconstructively into the article, and was unnecessary to educate the general reader - NOTGALLERY refers to adding images not necessary for the educational content of the article. Zefr (talk) 14:40, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I see now. Thank you for letting me know why it was removed. Runabout5921 (talk) 15:56, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Concern regarding some articles

Dear Runabout5921, I see your now-disclosed account ViewingHabit made a few articles related to head/face/skull shape, including sloping forehead, list of conditions with craniosynostosis and craniorhiny. And some drafts including Draft:High forehead and Draft:Midface retrusion. These all seem like dictionary definitions and the grouping appears arbitrary for me, as I was not able to find sources confirming your inclusion criteria in line with WP:NLIST. Per the policy, one accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list. The entirety of the list does not need to be documented in sources for notability, only that the grouping or set in general has been. This seems like the relevant notability criteria for articles but I don't think they meet the criteria. They are also bordering very close to phrenology, which Wikipedia recognises as psuedoscience and there are special policies that apply to fringe theories. I was considering taking these articles to WP:AfD but I thought to ask first if there is a more reasonable explanation for these articles. Thanks Darcyisverycute (talk) 17:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand your concern, if they are not of relevant nature they can be removed. I don't know how they would border on phrenology but I can see why they might look that way. Thank you for letting me know. Runabout5921 (talk) 20:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Darcyisverycute (talk) 15:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it is not notable enough for continued inclusion then I will not object to the deletion of it. Runabout5921 (talk) 17:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ok, thank you for letting me know. Runabout5921 (talk) 18:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Username

Hello, I have a second Wikimedia Commons account similar to the name of my OpenStreetMap account. Knowing that Wikimedia Commons logins can double as Wikipedia logins, would it be allowed for me edit under that username if I identify this as my alt on that name's userpage before editing? Just wondering since I would prefer to do so. Thank you Runabout5921 (talk) 21:20, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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