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July 2021

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Alternative medicine, you may be blocked from editing. The text you removed was perfectly well sourced. Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 16:06, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

That is not vandalism. You should learn what vandalism is, and what constitutes a supported statement. Show me where that statement is supported. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk)

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You've again mistaken Wikipedia for a democratic society where social freedom, personal expression and the liberty thereof are values placed above all other. In such a society McCarthyism is a malignant prejudice designed to silence opinions and constrain political thought. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. A book. An online repository. The people who are making it are doing a job. They're working and they are adhering to a basic set of management principles. If this were a company, like the marketing department of coco cola for example, it would be perfectly reasonable for the company to have principles, which say, "no - we don't want that". And to enforce them if employees persistently acted in contrary. For some reason, because a group of editors have objected to your contributions and you have found no support, you accuse the project of being Machiavellian, whereas the reality is that your content has been looked at (ad nauseam) and has been rejected. You are required to disclose COI here. Just like you are required to sign NDAs or exclusivity contracts if you work for coco cola. In fact the only real difference between this organization and a company is that we don't fire or sue people when they come into the office and spend all day bending the ear of everyone they meet, telling colleagues what a bunch of pigs we and the company are for not seeing eye to eye with them. In a nutshell - its OK for Wikipedia to have policies, its OK for Wikipedians to decide they don't like certain content and its OK to exclude that content from our pages. Edaham (talk) 04:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Quoted by tgeorgescu (talk) 18:31, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Let's just go our separate ways. You failed to refute my statement and gave up. I know where you stand. You know where I stand.

WP:GEVAL. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:40, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes. We are biased.

Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, once wrote:

"Wikipedia’s policies ... are exactly spot-on and correct. If you can get your work published in respectable scientific journals – that is to say, if you can produce evidence through replicable scientific experiments, then Wikipedia will cover it appropriately.

What we won’t do is pretend that the work of lunatic charlatans is the equivalent of 'true scientific discourse'. It isn’t.[21] [22] [23] [24]"

So yes, we are biased.

We are biased towards science and biased against pseudoscience.
We are biased towards astronomy, and biased against astrology.
We are biased towards chemistry, and biased against alchemy.
We are biased towards mathematics, and biased against numerology.
We are biased towards medicine, and biased against homeopathy.
We are biased towards venipuncture, and biased against acupuncture.
We are biased towards solar energy, and biased against esoteric energy.
We are biased towards actual conspiracies and biased against conspiracy theories.
We are biased towards cargo planes, and biased against cargo cults.
We are biased towards vaccination, and biased against vaccine hesitancy.
We are biased towards magnetic resonance imaging, and biased against magnetic therapy.
We are biased towards crops, and biased against crop circles.
We are biased towards laundry detergent, and biased against laundry balls.
We are biased towards augmentative and alternative communication, and biased against facilitated communication.
We are biased towards water treatment, and biased against magnetic water treatment.
We are biased towards mercury in saturated calomel electrodes, and biased against mercury in quack medicines.
We are biased towards blood transfusions, and biased against blood letting.
We are biased towards electromagnetic fields, and biased against microlepton fields.
We are biased towards evolution, and biased against young earth creationism.
We are biased towards holocaust studies, and biased against holocaust denial.
We are biased towards the sociology of race, and biased against scientific racism.
We are biased towards the scientific consensus on climate change, and biased against global warming conspiracy theories.
We are biased towards geology, and biased against flood geology.
We are biased towards medical treatments that have been proven to be effective in double-blind clinical trials, and biased against medical treatments that are based upon preying on the gullible.
We are biased towards astronauts and cosmonauts, and biased against ancient astronauts.
We are biased towards psychology, and biased against phrenology.
We are biased towards Mendelism, and biased against Lysenkoism.

And we are not going to change. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:40, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

References

I agree with all of that. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 18:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Hint: it includes bias against acupuncture. You have just defended acupuncture at WP:NORN. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:45, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

That's a solid point. I revise my statement to say I agree with 99% of that, but I am agnostic about accupuncture based on a consensus statement by the NIH. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 18:51, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

I solidly agree with this very vibrant statement. Very enlightening.✌️ PASTOR11 (talk) 15:24, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

But a certain part with all due respect and all protocol reserved. I believe that people can change. We can change on being biased towards for example vaccination or medicine. With peace ✌️ PASTOR11 (talk) 15:27, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Michael Clayton

Nice addition to the Fixer article. Fantastic film. I was contemplating adding it myself but didn't know if it would be excessive since there's so many examples. What do you think about Ray Donovan, and The Wolf from Pulp Fiction? Incerto501 (talk) 19:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I too was worried about overfilling the section, but I think fixers are arguably more prevalent in fiction than reality, from my experience, a big pop culture section doesn't seem redundant. I think Wolf would be a perfect addition, and I also think of Doug Stamper from House of Cards to be the quintessential fixer, and from a major modern TV series. Maybe the fixer archetype in fiction should even be its own article, at some point. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 21:52, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

You're probably right about the pop culture fixer needing it's own article. In the meantime I've added Winston Wolfe, Doug Stamper, and Ray Donovan. Cheers! Incerto501 (talk) 17:55, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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I came here to chew bubblegum and edit Wikipedia. And I'm all out of bubblegum.

I swear I've heard this phrase somewhere else before. Where did you find it? Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 20:04, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Looks like it's from an 80's movie called They Live. The original line was "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass…and I'm all out of bubblegum." I just swapped in "Wikipedia". I've heard variations in pop culture numerous times but never seen that movie. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 20:48, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

It's interesting that Wiki is anti-esoteric stuff and alchemic stuff. I wonder why. 1984. They Live. You seem like a cool person. Can you help me get an article started for a few notable figures?

Thanks. Some editors are just blind to inconsistencies in their logic. Even if an editor passionately hates "lunatic charlatans", Wikipedia should try to take a neutral tone. What are the articles you're hoping to create? Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:31, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021 GOCE blitz award

		The Modest Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Pyrrho the Skeptic for copy edits totaling over 2,000 words (including rollover words) during the GOCE August 2021 Copy Editing Blitz. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 01:21, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	For your well thought out contributions at WP:RS/N. ––FormalDude talk 09:36, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

@FormalDude: Thanks so much. This made my day. Thanks for your great contributions, too. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 14:39, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Women in Red

Hi there, Pyrrho the Skeptic, and welcome to Women in Red. I see you have already created one biography of a women and look forward to many more. If you haven't already done so, you might find it useful to look through our Primer for creating women's biographies. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 10:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome and I will certainly look through that material. I appreciate the support and look forward to working on this project. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 14:57, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

UFO Pentagon videos - Dispute resolution noticeboard

There is a dispute resolution open at the DR noticeboard in which you have been involved Here Deathlibrarian (talk) 10:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Teahouse - Betsy Rosenberg

Pyrrho the Skeptic, editors with a properly disclosed COI can contribute if they follow the proper guidelines. In this case, an undisclosed paid editor added unreferenced and highly promotional content to a biography of a living person at the behest of their boss. Every single thing about their edit was completely inappropriate. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:33, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying that, Cullen. If you could humor me a bit more, was the user warned first? Secondly, was there in fact a username violation as stated in the edit summary? Thirdly, why was the record of the edit removed from the archives? I wanted to see it myself so I could understand what the violation is. Not that I would do anything, just out of curiosity. Thanks Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:38, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

No, they were not warned first and warnings are not necessary for spam accounts or other overt violators. The username "BRassistant" is a username violation as a role account. Assistants come and go, and accounts are for one person only. The account is an undeclared paid account. They posted unreferenced highly promotional content, which as an administrator I could read. The content also was a copyright violation which had to be suppressed for legal reasons. I have blocked thousands of spam accounts on sight without a warning. It is standard operating procedure in the world of fighting spam. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:49, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Okay, that all makes sense. I appreciate the explanations Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:56, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Role accounts

(re BRassistant): Is it still a violation if the user disclosed their COI? I was under the impression that accounts could exist that are affiliated with an organazation or person, provided they disclose COI. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:25, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey, Pyrrho. So, the problem with this account name is not the COI per se. The problem is that it's a role account that implies shared use. Wikipedia accounts have to be owned by a signle person forever; "one person, one account" is the rule (with some exceptions, of course). They are not allowed to be owned by groups of people, or handed down from one person to another. The latter is the reason that "BRassistant" is a problem--it implies that this account is held, not by an individual, but by whoever happens to be Betsy Rosenberg's assistant at the time, and when the position changes hands, presumably so would the Wikipedia account, which is the problem. Usernames that declare a COI while still clearly identifying an individual do not break this rule: this is known as the "Mark at Alcoa" exception. But they have to identify a specific individual, not just a position.

Of course, this is largely moot, as the biggest problem with that account is the editing itself; the username is secondary to the copyvio/spam. That's why I hardblocked, rather than just softblocking. In any event, hope this helps, Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 18:26, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, @Writ Keeper: that's an enlightening explanation and makes perfect sense to me now. Much appreciated. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 18:37, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You forgot to add your signature to your response to a question on Teahouse. Don't worry, we all do it sometimes. 22:51, 15 September 2021 (UTC) Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry | Discord: Blaze Wolf#0001 (talk) 22:51, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

I just hope the poor trout's okay. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 23:09, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

The trout's fine. It's only slapped about 100 million people or so. It'll be fine! Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry | Discord: Blaze Wolf#0001 (talk) 01:24, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Question from Chefs-kiss (14:27, 16 September 2021)

Hi! I love this new function for mentors. I'm trying to get an article published however I would love to work with a japanese person to get sources. Is there any method for wikipedians to work across different nationalities to get articles published? --Chefs-kiss (talk) 14:27, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for reaching out. Glad to have you on Wikipedia and thanks for being a part of it! That's a great question. If you have not already, check out Project Japan, and you can add your name to the list of participants. From there, you should be able to communicate with other editors well-versed in the topic, as well as find articles and sources more easily. I will have a think and see if there might be other ways for you to get those sources and collaborate on those articles. Let me know if you have more questions, I'm always happy to help if I can. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:18, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Other accounts / WP:SCRUTINY

Have you edited Wikipedia using other accounts? Alexbrn (talk) 12:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

He has had a lot of accounts over the years, his most famous was his banned account called tumbleman. 82.132.229.72 (talk) 14:11, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

@Alexbrn: I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here because I see that some IP has tried to link me to sockpuppet accounts on the Naturopathy Talk Page. I can tell you that that is 100% false and I have no idea what they are referring to. @82.132.229.72: I literally have no idea what you are talking about, but I am prepared to take this to the admins if you continue. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:05, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Ignoring the IP, though: have you edited Wikipedia using other accounts? Alexbrn (talk) 15:19, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

No. This is the only account I use to edit. Why are you asking me this? Seems so out of left field. Again, I believe you mean well, but I'm very confused why you're coming to my Talk Page and asking me if I use other accounts without elaborating. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that response that clears things up. It's a fairly routine query to ensure there are no WP:SCRUTINY issues. As I am sure you're aware, socking is a major problem on Wikipedia, particularly in fringe areas. It also puts the IP's aspersions to bed. Alexbrn (talk) 15:27, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. I'm a bit concerned now about who this IP is and who they might be connected to. Very odd that a content dispute turns into an IP making very specific accusations about specific usernames. I'm a little unsettled by the whole thing. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

RSN discussion

Hi, it seems you accidentally put your signature after my post, which creates a wrong impression it was written by you. If it was not your intention, can you please remove it?--Paul Siebert (talk) 20:08, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

My mistake! Not sure how that happened. It's removed now. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 20:23, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Submitting drafts

Thanks for the advice. ZX2006XZ (talk) 17:47, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Of course. Collaboration and communication on Wikipedia can be fun and I highly recommend it. Hope you stick around and keep editing. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:49, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

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HELP

Hello kindly help me in creating pages Bobor001 (talk) 08:11, 21 October 2021 (UTC).

• Can You help me create a page Bobor001 (talk) 08:20, 21 October 2021 (UTC).

Hi @Bobor001:, what kind of help do you need? Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 16:04, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

* yeah, I created a Draft Article here @Draft:9jabased Wiki, which was recently decline stating that I should add more reliable source which I did now, so I strongly need you to help me move it to Article and protect it from vandalism. I will get more reliable source tommorow which I will add again thanks cheers.Bobor001 (talk) 18:09, 21 October 2021 (UTC).

• Thanks for explaining. That's great that you're creating your own Wiki encyclopedia. Please note that being in article space will not prevent it from being vandalized. However, right now, your sources do not meet the requirements of Wikipedia. Your website needs to show significant coverage from independent, third-party, reliable sources. Your sources are mostly self-published and primary. I hope that helps. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 18:22, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Lilwhya on Ricky Richard Anywar (08:09, 26 October 2021)

Hello, how can I add my photos --Lilwhya (talk) 08:09, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Lilwhya:, welcome to Wikipedia. Do you own the rights to use the photo? You can use this page, and submit a request to add a photo by clicking "Make a new request". Or, you can read through this guide. I hope that helps. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Signpost volunteering

Hi! I saw that you were interested in volunteering at the Signpost. The best way to help is to just jump in and go for it. You can start small, and check with Smallbones, our editor in chief, if you're unsure about something. I mention this now because the next issue is 5 days away, so the articles will need copyediting, and that's a great place to start. You can use Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom to coordinate what you do with everyone else, but every article will need a copyedit before publication, so there'll be plenty to do! Good luck and happy editing. Ganesha811 (talk) 14:55, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

@Ganesha811: thanks so much for your help. That clears up a lot of my confusion, and I appreciate the heads up about the new issue. I'll check it out and see what I can do. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Question from Javed hsb (05:37, 4 November 2021)

How to put profile picture? --Javed hsb (talk) 05:37, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Javed hsb: do you own the photograph and is this for your user page? Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:51, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from Carlsbadkickboxingclub (16:19, 17 November 2021)

How do I add this logo to a page i just created? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Carlsbad_kickboxing_club_PLAIN.jpg --Carlsbadkickboxingclub (talk) 16:19, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, @Carlsbadkickboxingclub: thanks for reaching out. Please note that you're currently violating user name and user page policies. You cannot use a user name or a user page to promote a particular business. If you want to create an article for the boxing club, you, or preferably someone that's not you, must first create a user name without the business name in it, disclose your or their conflict of interest on your or their user page, then an article draft can be created and submitted for review. The business must have reliable, significant, third-party coverage to be considered for an article. In that draft you can potentially add that logo, providing you have the right to use it. I hope that helps! Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 16:39, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Question from Tetchywaif (23:12, 19 November 2021)

Hiya! I wanted to know if theres some way o can draw the line so i don't overlink! --Tetchywaif (talk) 23:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for reaching out! Do you mean Wikilinks? That's a good question. Not everyone agrees on where to draw the line, but I think reading through this thoroughly will help. Also, reading through good articles to see how it's done there. I used to want to add Wikilinks as much as I could, but over time, I feel like I've become more stingy, simply because they serve a purpose, which is to help readers contextualize the content, and learn new things. If I don't think the link will do either of those, I won't add one. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 23:40, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

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Question from Jerryzanga (15:11, 25 November 2021)

How can I add a new article? --Jerryzanga (talk) 15:11, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@Jerryzanga:Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for the question. Please read Your First Article. Feel free to come back and ask further questions along the way. Happy editing. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 23:53, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

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Edit reversal

Hi Pyrrho the Skeptic. I think I came across some of your edits while going over Quetstar's abysmal COI request reviewing, which I believe you discussed with them so thank you for that. Concerning the sentence I removed from the Petco article, I believe my rationale was that given the request added the following: "In 2005, after pressure from PETA, Petco agreed to stop selling parrots and other large birds", the previous line remained a bit out of place. I will continue with the review in the coming days. Feel free to let me know your thoughts. Thanks, PK650 (talk) 20:25, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

@PK650:Thanks for reaching out and for your hard work in going over over those requests. Although I'm not adamant about it, it did feel a bit like corporate spin to remove the verb "criticized" in favor of what Petco did in response. I think it's fair and accurate to say that they were criticized for it. But if you disagree, I'm not going to fight it. Thanks again and happy editing! Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 20:38, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Reason for Adding Babel Context

The reason I said ‘currently’ is because the scholarly view always changes. Now I will admit it is a bit odd of me to do so but in the last few decades a ziggurat has been found in the Old Babylonian Kingdom, so I’m predicting that scholars are going to change there view soon. That’s why I put currently. If you want to discuss more I am more than willing. Teertrevo (talk) 21:03, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

@Teertrevo:Thanks for explaining. "The scholarly view always changes" is a statement by you that I've seen no evidence for anywhere. I'd say the fact that scholars think Genesis is myth and not fact is a consensus that needs no qualifier of "currently". Unless you can provide evidence that scholars are likely to change their mind frequently about this, which seems very unlikely. I encourage you to start a conversation on the Talk Page of the article, though. That way you can can get some additional opinions. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:20, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Restoring neutral POV to page

Thanks for your advice on restoring a neutral point of view to the Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation page.

So what would be the appropriate next step here to fix the page and resolve this dispute? I have written at length on the talk page previously and I know others not affiliated with the organization have also tried to fix the page's currently non-neutral POV, but everything has been consistently dismissed by the editor who made the changes in the first place.

Any help on how to go about restoring a neutral POV and accuracy to the page would be appreciated. DVillageP11 (talk) 22:06, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

I will make the edit to the lead now, and if it is reverted, I will call for a Third Opinion. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 22:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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Happy holidays

Everlasting Fireworks looped	Bring on the cheer!
	Hi Pyrrho the Skipper, May you have a bright and beautiful holiday season and a happy and healthy 2022! Netherzone (talk) 17:06, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Netherzone (talk) 17:06, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

@Netherzone: Thank you, kindly. And I wish the same to you and those important to you. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Question from SReader65 (03:33, 27 December 2021)

Hi there, I am a new account here. I will like to learn something new. I am new here, and I will like to contribute something based on my interests and something, and trying to keep Wikipedia a better place for all. Is there some rules or guidelines I have to obey? --SReader65 (talk) 03:33, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia! So glad you're here and want to contribute. You should start here: The Wikipedia Adventure. That might be helpful! If not, come back here and I will help you with more resources. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 04:42, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Question from SReader65 (03:44, 27 December 2021)

I also got a question but that was a bit bothering, but based on the reading of vandalism on one of my favorite articles (because I do not condone that and then there were this), may I know what is a sockpuppet? I just worry because that I am making a fresh new account to start something etc., and is it safe to log in on the affected ISP or something? --SReader65 (talk) 03:44, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

A sockpuppet is an account that is one of multiple accounts that one user has, to try to influence Wikipedia by looking like multiple individuals. Does that make sense? You should use just one account, the one you commented here with. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk)

Oh, so in the case, I have a shared network at home but because the IP address is temporarily blocked from anon or something, is it alright that I can log in on that IP address, just to prevent suspicion? Other than that, thanks. SReader65 (talk) 04:56, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Is the IP address blocked from editing Wikipedia? Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:37, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

No, but now it is lifted. So can I use on different devices using that different IP address, is that OK? SReader65 (talk) 04:34, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

As long as you edit Wikipedia with the account you're using, SReader65, I think you'll be okay. but you may want to ask at the Teahouse. I'm not an expert at the technical details. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 16:42, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

bare links

Hello I am new to wikipedia. Could you please reinstate the links, properly, as I do not know how to? Thank you. Knowledge1253 (talk) 13:43, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. What was the purpose of those links? Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:38, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

The purpose of the links was to cite existence of the parks. Knowledge1253 (talk) 08:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Yousif basim (17:28, 29 December 2021)

مرحبا اكيفية تهكير حسابات انستكرام --Yousif basim (talk) 17:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I don't speak Arabic, sorry. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:30, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Computers can translate for you, nowadays.

Knowledge1253 (talk) 06:42, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

external links

Hello. Why did you remove the government links for McGarry Township Forest Conservtion Reserve? Knowledge1253 (talk) 15:09, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

I reverted your edits because you are spamming the article with links. If you want to improve the article, stop adding links and add useful content with sources. Do not add any more external links. Thank you! Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Sorry you feel I am spamming with links. I am adding external links for citation and reference.

Knowledge1253 (talk) 08:42, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

inappropriate link

Please tell me what the inappropriate link was, and why it was inappropriate, so I do not do it again. Tks! Knowledge1253 (talk) 08:41, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Knowledge1253: Before you edit again, please go to the article Talk Page and suggest the edits you'd like to make. Then myself or another editor will review them and help you implement them correctly. Thanks! Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 19:19, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

I won't bother, thanks! Knowledge1253 (talk) 03:38, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

you are wrong

Period. Stop deleting content. Knowledge1253 (talk) 03:37, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Beaverhouse Land Claim

I demand you restore the paragraph on their land claim, with cited source from ontario.ca. Knowledge1253 (talk) 14:21, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Beaverhouse First Nation Community (Treaty 9)

Location: Northeast of Kirkland Lake Claim type: Reserve Land

Beaverhouse First Nation Community submitted a claim to Ontario on July 5, 2018, asserting the community is a distinct First Nation and did not sign Treaty 9, or any other treaty. On April 18, 2019, Ontario advised Beaverhouse First Nation Community that it will complete an assessment of the claim submission within three years.

Knowledge1253 (talk) 14:24, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

You should request this edit on the article's Talk Page, not here. However, I recommend apologizing to the other editors for your behavior and being polite in your requests. That's the best way to move forward. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

References

I demand you revert the deletion of the newly elected mayor of McGarry!!!!!¡! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:B100:34A:BC69:3E87:18EA:9862:D8E9 (talk) 11:42, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Behaviour

I guess I need to make an apology for my behaviour. Here it is, and one last thing, sorry you got offended. Knowledge1253 (talk) 06:48, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I hope you consider contributing to Wikipedia in a more collaborative way in the future. It's a very rewarding endeavor! Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 17:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Question from Madzunye on Help:Getting started (20:52, 8 January 2022)

how can i edit --Madzunye (talk) 20:52, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

@Madzunye: Welcome to Wikipedia! If you'd like, I can walk you through your first edit. What article would you like to work on? Or check out the Task Center, and pick a task! Otherwise, you should consider the fun Wikipedia Adventure. What do you think? Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 20:26, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Okay! Knowledge1253 (talk) 22:16, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Antarctica featured article review

I have nominated Antarctica for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:19, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Big Narrows

Yes. The Big Narrows were mentioned on the article. The Big Narrows is where Pearl Beach is. And where the "erratics" are. Knowledge1253 (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

The inline citation appeared to be sourcing the Tom Pearl thing, which I couldn't find in the source. There is no reason to insert that link in the middle of that sentence like that. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 22:41, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Question from SReader65 (10:31, 10 January 2022)

I ask one question; if I want to report a group of IP addresses for sockpuppet for an IP address in related, how would I do? And I also have someone who have been blocked for sockpuppet and how would I advise my someone to do appeal after it was unsuccessful? --SReader65 (talk) 10:31, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

@SReader65: Hi and welcome. There are different ways to open a sockpuppet investigation. To do it manually, you will need to know which is the oldest IP address of the group making edits. You will then need some evidence (in the form of diffs). Then go to Sockpuppet Investigations and scroll down to "How to open an investigation". There, you will enter the oldest IP address of the group. Let me know if you need help doing this. As for appealing blocks, I recommend reading about on this page. If you want an opinion on that particular case, feel free to share the details and perhaps I can help. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 16:53, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Skepticism and coordinated editing arbitration case opened

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing/Evidence. Please note: per Arbitration Policy, ArbCom is accepting private evidence by email. If in doubt, please email and ArbCom can advise you whether evidence should be public or private. Please add your evidence by January 31, 2022, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. You may unsubscribe from further updates by removing your name from the case notification list.

For the Arbitration Committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Pyrrho! With regard to the evidence you submitted here: I don't believe that one editor breaking the canvassing rules once is relevant enough to consider in an arbitration case, which will base remedies only on long-term patterns of disruption. Moreover, the editor in question was warned for the behavior, so unless the behavior has been repeated since it seems an inappropriate case of non bis in idem to report it like this. Such evidence serves only as a distraction to the arbitrators, and as such will not help any case you may want to make. I would like to ask you to consider retracting the evidence. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 19:19, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate that and I understand. I acted in error (and apologize to the parties mentioned). I will remove. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:22, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

• Well, Apaugasma you did no better, posting in your evidence diffs of mine which purport to show I was "ignoring the POV of academic expert" (by which you mean the esteemed E. Ernst) - when they show no such thing, my points were orthogonal to his views. I suggest you retract this dishonesty. If not I will have to submit my own evidence showing your falsity for what it is. Alexbrn (talk) 20:46, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

  @Alexbrn: I do believe that Ernst's POV was ignored. In the work (Ernst 2013, also linked in the evidence) that we were discussing at the time, Ernst argues that qi has no place in science because it is not empirically verifiable, explicitly comparing it with God. His view is that, like the existence of God, the existence of qi can neither be proven nor disproven. The idea that anything that is not empirically verifiable does not exist or is merely imaginary is a specific philosophical position associated with positivism and scientific skepticism. That is why a skeptic like Harriet Hall will tend to speak of it as nonexistent or imaginary rather than unverifiable. Ernst, on the other hand, does not speak of it like that, because he realizes that positively affirming that Qi does not exist belongs to the realm of opinion just as much as affirming that God does not exist. Though his personal (positivist/skeptic and atheist) opinion clearly shines through, as a scholar he treats the subject in a disinterested way. We should follow this academic, scholarly treatment of the subject, not the positivist/skeptic treatment as published on a blog (Science-Based Medicine).

  You and others (I do not at all wish to single you out, just to point to the wider phenomenon) were arguing on that talk page that SBM would somehow not be WP:PARTISAN and that we should follow the POV represented there, meanwhile ignoring the repeated pointers to Ernst 2013. It's a clear-cut case of breaching NPOV to promote the skeptic (in this case more specifically, positivist) POV on Wikipedia. In the end that part came out okay (the article currently says that neither qi nor meridians exist as observable phenomena, citing and quoting Ernst 2013, which is perfect), but the amount of non-policy based resistance to this really was problematic. You may of course submit your own evidence if you wish. Do mind though that it should relate to what was happening with regard to policy in the discussion at the time. We should not discuss the content itself on the ArbCom page. Regards, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 22:18, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

  I have no wish to revisit your (wrong) argument: that was settled by good consensus. I am simply pointing out your diffs are dishonest as they do not demonstrate what you say they do. Alexbrn (talk) 22:26, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

• Apaugasma I see another editor has picked-up your problem evidence. It is really not a good idea to submit evidence to arbcom which is transparently false. Alexbrn (talk) 06:58, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
  • Objection to the evidence does not make it "problem evidence" or "transparently false". The diffs are provided and arbcom can make those judgments. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:31, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
    • It is not the "objection" which makes it false; it is false because it's false. Alexbrn (talk) 16:45, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
      • Not even the objecting editor called any of that "false". I'm not sure what you think is false about pointing out obvious incivility. But you're welcome to share an example. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:50, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
        • What? I'm not objecting to anything to do with "incivility". Alexbrn (talk) 16:57, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
          • I see you're referring to Ernst thing only. In that case, it looks like there was a lengthy discussion on that and no firm consensus, nor did the objecting editor call it "false", but encouraged more nuance and context. That's a big leap to go from that to "transparently false". Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:10, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
      • Re it is false because it's false: see proof by assertion. Please don't do that. I explained my reasoning, so either engage with that in good faith, or just agree to disagree –which would be more than fine by me! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 17:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
        • Editors are meant to be presenting evidence not the result of flawed "reasoning" (Any "analysis" you might want to attempt, must be done on the /Workshop page). Anyway, your assertions have been called out by another editor so too late to withdraw (but amendment is possible). Alexbrn (talk) 17:48, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
          • Just because you assert that my reasoning is flawed does not make it so. I just asked you not to do that. Since this ventures into WP:PA territory, I will ask you clearly: please don't make any more unsubstantiated comments about the quality of my reasoning. I would certainly be willing to withdraw my evidence (I could strike it) if you would demonstrate that it is false. You have not even attempted to do that. Repeatedly calling it "wrong", "dishonest", "transparantly false" does not make it so. If you're not willing to make an argument, that's fine, really! Perhaps the Arbs will see that it's wrong without anyone making any argument. I very much respect you as an editor, so please let's just keep this constructive. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 18:19, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
            • Your so-called "reasoning" is wrong, and pointing that out is not a PA. Asserting that I "ignored" a source is false, because I know it to be false from my own recollection. It is also provably false: you claim your diff is evidence that I was "again ignoring Ernst's POV". But the diff shows nothing of the sort, and indeed I was discussing that very source, and Ernst's very POV, in the discussion above; not "ignoring" it. You're twisting things, and I find that deplorable. Alexbrn (talk) 18:30, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
              • The first diff shows me making an argument literally quoting Ernst's POV multiple times, and you replying to that without one word about Ernst's POV. The second diff shows you saying "so long as we also have something like "qi/meridians do not exist" we'll be good", as if you didn't read the Ernst source nor my repeated quotes (like the existence of qi can neither be proven nor disproven) from it. Now you may believe that Ernst really somehow means to say that qi does not exist, but you did not try to argue that either. You did not engage with my interpretation of Ernst, you did not argue against it, you just ignored Ernst. As far as I can see, the closest you come to discussing Ernst's POV is here, where you seem to have inferred from Ernst's saying that concepts such as qi are myths which enjoy the same status as religious faiths that we should state in wiki-voice that qi does not exist, despite what Ernst says just a few sentences later about its nonexistence being unprovable, and despite the fact that we would never state such things in wiki-voice about religious or mythical concepts. Of course, I go on to point out all these things in my later comment, but from there on (the diffs above) you just start to ignore anything said about Ernst.

              So I have explained myself once more. I suspect that you object to my claiming you 'ignored' Ernst's POV because you disagree with me about what Ernst's POV really is. It's the kind of thing that makes content issues so intractable, and the reason why admins as well as Arbs tend to not assign much weight to them. I cited it in my evidence as part of a larger phenomenon of misidentifying the skeptic POV as by definition equal to the POV of reliable sources. Of course you disagree, that's to be expected. But I do see an issue, and I reported it. I think that's fair. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 20:14, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

              • More slime. By selectively quoting me to omit the "Wikipedia can say other things ..." and ignoring the fact that I was taking issue with plagiarism of Ernst's exact words (which shows I must have read it), you yet again twist things. You have shown your colours. Alexbrn (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Help with editing more clarity

Hi, I need more people to help me editing as I have too much to do myself. I see that you responded to me on the teahouse page. Could you please make infoboxes for these articles Betty Lalam and Duan Weihong. Davidgoodheart (talk) 04:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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January 2022 GOCE drive awards

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Pyrrho the Skipper for copy edits totaling over 12,000 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE January 2022 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 01:53, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Long Articles, 4th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Pyrrho the Skipper for copyediting 1 long article during the GOCE January 2022 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Dhtwiki (talk) 01:53, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

@Dhtwiki: Thank you! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:36, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Skepticism and coordinated editing proposed decision posted

The proposed decision in the Skepticism and coordinated editing has been posted. Please review the proposed decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:00, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Reply from me

Hello there, sorry for the late reply, but circumstances are beyond my control.

From the reply in the past, I like to ask for some help on helping to unblock some users from block as they have clearly prove innocent but then the administrators refuse to lift them concerning safety. Apparently, there has been some evidence but then they could not be proofed. I not only need some assistance, but to other as well as we can support the case, and fearing that I will be accused of using sockpuppet account from other previously blocked accounts, there is something that there needs to be done, and particularly, a user in conflict needs to be settled. I will not go into detail until the time is right, but right now, I asking some questions first.

I am new to Wikipedia but I do not know where to begin, but to learn the rules and not to commit the mistake again from other friends or accounts, learning has been an experience.

Thank you. SReader65 (talk) 08:25, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

@SReader65: I'm open to discussing this in more detail, but if this dispute involves other editors, you might consider simply moving on. Since you are a new editor, as you say, then getting involved in disputes where editors are being blocked might not be the most fruitful use of your time. If you truly want to help the encyclopedia, there are many, many articles that need your help. Let me know if you'd like me to point you to those. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

​ I was intending on helping that someone a senior to clear their name from the dispute and want to tell that the user that is against it was at wrong and wishes to be served justice, the user was not a sockpuppet and in fact there was another user who was manipulating it and that the system checked that it was sockpuppet but the user wasn't framed for.

Well, since there are many articles that needs help, I go for random ones first or those with interest. Thanks for the advice. SReader65 (talk) 04:56, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

March editathons

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing closed

An arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

• Rp2006 (talk · contribs) is warned against a battleground mentality and further incivility.
• Rp2006 is indefinitely topic banned from edits related to living people associated with or of interest to scientific skepticism, broadly construed. This topic ban may be appealed after six months have elapsed and every six months thereafter.
• A. C. Santacruz (talk · contribs) is reminded to remain collegial in editing and interacting with others.
• Roxy the dog (talk · contribs) is warned to remain collegial in editing and interacting with others.
• GSoW is advised that a presence on English Wikipedia, perhaps as its own WikiProject or as a task force of WikiProject Skepticism, will create more transparency and lessen some of the kinds of suspicion and conflict that preceded this case. It could also provide a place for the GSoW to get community feedback about its training which would increase its effectiveness.
• Editors are reminded that discretionary sanctions for biographies of living people have been authorized since 2014. Editors named in this decision shall be considered aware of these discretionary sanctions under awareness criterion 1.

For the Arbitration Committee, –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 05:04, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Skepticism and coordinated editing closed

FYI

I grew up in a family of vegetarians and was a vegan for many years. We used "home remedies" and had various alternative medical beliefs. We used homeopathy and dietary supplements, juicing, wheat grass, etc. My mother, who was a nurse, got breast cancer and tried to treat herself rather than going to a doctor. I remember when we drove her to Mexico to a cancer quack clinic (we didn't think of it that way at the time). She received a dietary regimen, dietary supplements, enemas, and electrical treatments, likely some type of Rife device. She died a horrible death and left an impoverished family. My wife's family suffered a very similar fate when her mother-in-law (father's second marriage) got breast cancer and followed a similar route. He later died poor.

I have two mainstream medical educations and my wife has three, but our Physician Assistant education bears special mention. My wife and I both took a Physician Assistant course (the profession was in its infancy at the time) at a health care center operated by a small team of physicians. The doctors at this place were vegetarians and believed in lots of alternative medicine ideas, including limiting the use of normal medications as much as possible. We treated the patients with diet, exercise, meditation, herbs, hydrotherapy, enemas and high colonics, fever therapy, electrical zapper devices, etc. When all else failed, we "trusted in God." For some people, this was actually an improvement on their normal (typical American diet and lifestyle, which is horrible) lives, and it helped them. For others, it was the thing that literally killed them and deprived them of the chance to get some of the radical help they really needed. Many cancers, when caught early enough, are often curable, but we blocked that route by offering them false hope. The people who worked there were well-meaning, but ignorant, true believers.

The center was an IM place, long before AM and IM were terms in common use. Some of our patients needed lifestyle changes, and we did help many of them, but most of our patients had exhausted the mainstream options and were desperate for hope. This place offered them that hope, and took the rest of the money their families had. One could say I've "been there and done that." I have seen all this from the inside and have a very different perspective now that I have had more scientific and medical education. I was ignorant of the issues at the time, and now know the science-based side of the question. -- Valjean (talk) 18:58, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Fascinating! Thanks for sharing that. Clearly, you are well-equipped to understand the full scope of these debates. That's what's needed, I think. An understanding of how all these things fit together. It's horribly sad to see people needlessly suffer and/or die because they refuse modern medicine. I also find it sad to see people needlessly suffer from anxiety because they refuse to try some kind of simple mindfulness meditation type of thing that might help them. Ultimately, I've never encountered more thoughtful, curious, and level-headed community of people than I have on Wikipedia. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:25, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from SReader65 (14:29, 21 March 2022)

Hello, I like to answer some questions that pertain to Sockpuppet and want to help that someone who previously blocked from edit to reinstate the rights as the user wants to clear their name from it, and that instead want to block that another user because of the kind of abuse and selfishness. However, to avoid possible conflicts, the names or anything will have to be given privately, if that is possible. I also need the help of some other people as well. --SReader65 (talk) 14:29, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes, you've asked me this before. I don't understand what kind of help you need. Could you just say "I need someone to do X for me"? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, but because I can't find the question since it was previously archived, I had to redo the question. I need someone to do report one particular user and at the same time, unblock another user for me. I also need assistance from some Singaporean editors since the affected user was also a Singaporean (from what I heard). SReader65 (talk) 16:10, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Okay a few follow-up questions/comments:

What did the user you want to report do wrong?

I am not an admin so I cannot unblock anyone

What difference does it make if the users helping are Singaporean? You could visit Project Singapore.

Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Understand, I was just asking this question because I do not know. Understand the question from here, the user that was blocked want to report the user who did wrong by reverting most of, if not all, the edits as it claimed to be less relevant by the user views, and the user also was into dispute so easily. I do not want to interfere, but asking for advice.

I also had asked Project Singapore, but I try again. Thank you. SReader65 (talk) 10:24, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

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Question from ReeseMatthews (02:34, 30 March 2022)

Hello Mentor, I'm Reese. This might sound like a silly question to ask since I just begun today, but are Americans allowed to make anime? If you don't know how to answer this question it's no problem at all. I was just wondering because I have big dreams for the future. I hope you have a wonderful night!!!

Your's truly, Reese Matthews --ReeseMatthews (talk) 02:34, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. I just looked it up right here and apparently, Americans can make "anime-influenced animation," but to be called "anime" it must be made in Japan. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 14:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Failed ping fix

Hello Pyrrho the Skipper. I noticed your attempt to fix a ping in this edit. Unfortunately, that method does not work. The notifications system only informs a user when you link their username in the same saved edit as you successfully sign your post. A ping cannot be fixed in a later edit by adding your signature or fixing a botched username. Instead, reference the user by adding [[User:Example]] to an edit summary, or use one of the other methods at Help:Fixing failed pings. 💜  melecie  talk - 00:15, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Oh I see! Thanks for being a helpful Wikipedian. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 14:44, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Question from Shenu 99 on Talk:Anonymous (hacker group) (19:35, 2 April 2022)

Please help us country . Sri lanka --Shenu 99 (talk) 19:35, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from SReader65 (04:16, 4 April 2022)

Hi Pyrro, it's me again. I currently was handling an article that have poorly edited quality in Wikipedia but the user made some more edits that had a poor quality edit (and even reported to ANI). I really do not want to cause any trouble because all I did was a good faith. Is there something you can advise on? Thank you. --SReader65 (talk) 04:16, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi SReader65, I'm sorry to hear you're encountering this. Remember that Wikipedia is a collaboration. Editors will not always agree on what is good and bad editing, and we must always assume good faith from other editors, too. If someone is being disruptive or vandalizing, you can use warnings on their Talk Page and report them to admins. If they're merely editing in a way you disagree with, follow the bold, revert, discuss cycle. If you can tell me what article you are experiencing this on, I may be able to offer more specific help. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 14:23, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Pardon for the late reply, but I was busy. Anyway, the article that I came across the issue is Star Awards 2022 which has poorly-editing quality (I seek help with the WikiProject Singapore since it was a Singaporean article, but they handled it well). I really wished the article follow the manual style or template compared to other awards-related articles such as the Academy Awards. SReader65 (talk) 17:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Could you please point to something specific that you think is "poor quality"? It's difficult to discuss quality of edits without examples of edits. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

For example, titles or name of series are not properly italicized, typing one as 1, or with excessive trivial topics. Apparently the user did not study Manual of style.SReader65 (talk) 17:12, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Okay, that's better. However, I've searched the page and can't find what you're talking about. Are you looking at the English version? Could you paste the sentences where these style errors are occurring? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:25, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I referred to the English version, but the backlog can tell more about it (this one was before I came to the article). SReader65 (talk) 14:43, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

So the article is better now? If so, then mission accomplished. Now you can move on to other tasks on Wikipedia or continue trying to improve that article. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from KimodoMsafi (17:05, 21 April 2022)

How to be famous --KimodoMsafi (talk) 17:05, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi @KimodoMsafi:. Are you asking about how to be notable enough for a Wikipedia article? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:06, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

IE draft

Hi Pyrrho, nice to meet you. I was hoping to continue this discussion[25] with you but it was archived before I had a chance to respond. You wrote that the draft seems notable, and then another editor expressed some concerns. Do you agree? I will note that the example mentioned at the WP:Teahouse wasn't one of the sources which I thought might indicate notability- I had focused instead on the coverage at Wired, Inc.com, Bloomberg and Fast Company as WP:SIGCOV. I'd love to get your feedback on this, and if you think the draft is in fact ready to be included, for you to move it to mainspace. Thanks for looking into this, AJ at Innovation Endeavors (talk) 16:00, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@AJ at Innovation Endeavors: In my personal opinion I think it's mostly in good enough shape to at least be submitted, though you may want to consider finding a better source than calcalistech for those statements, if possible. Another editor disagreed, though, and their opinion should be equally considered. I do not have new article review rights or admin rights so there this is little I can do other than perhaps add my two cents somewhere on the draft submission. But I think you should go ahead and submit it and see what happens. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:24, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Pyrrho, thanks for getting back to me about this! I'd love for you to add your two cents- maybe as an AfC comment if that's appropriate here? Thanks again for your help! AJ at Innovation Endeavors (talk) 18:09, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

@AJ at Innovation Endeavors:I added a comment on the Talk Page, as I believe that without new page reviewer rights, I am prohibited from making an "official" comment on the draft. I could be wrong, and you're welcome to ask someone about that, but I added the Talk Page comment nevertheless. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:00, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Theories of scientists (21:02, 25 April 2022)

I cant create user page please help --Theories of scientists (talk) 21:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Theories of scientists: You have a user page! Just click on your name. If you want to add stuff there, than simply edit that page and add what you'd like. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

McGarry, Ontario

@Hwy43:, @Meters: The McGarry, Ontario saga continues. I have requested page protection. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 23:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I see what you mean. Multiple pointless talk page threads. Article is now protected. Meters (talk) 03:53, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Why would you request page protection, then turn around and revert info that was updated to reflect current circumstances? The township voted in a new Mayor, easily fact checked, why did you retain outdated info on whom the mayor is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:B100:34A:BC69:3E87:18EA:9862:D8E9 (talk) 11:45, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

The saga continues. After having the same mayor for over 25 years, since 2019 there have been three. Got another new mayor last month, and the mayor from before the mayor of last year is on council. So basically, council member became mayor, mayor became council mayor. A switch of roles for roll call, lol!! 2605:B100:D21:5A51:F55D:5692:7CF6:263F (talk) 23:06, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Self-declared sock of user:Knowledge1253 [26] Meters (talk) 06:48, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

@Meters Thank you, that article remains on my watchlist. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 07:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I've set up autoarchiving on the talk page to reduce the number of old threads the LTA can go back to. Meters (talk) 07:42, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Jessicaaylen (05:02, 28 April 2022)

Hello Pyrrho, Is there any promotion if I made over 10+ contributions..? --Jessicaaylen (talk) 05:03, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to Wikipedia. Yes, accounts four days old that have made 10 edits or more are autoconfirmed. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 05:09, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Question from Jessicaaylen (12:22, 28 April 2022)

Can you help me in creating an article for a person? --Jessicaaylen (talk) 12:22, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

@Jessicaaylen: I'd be happy to. I highly suggest you read this page first. Your subject may or may not be notable enough, or notable enough yet, for Wikipedia, so it's good to determine that first so you don't waste your time! I'm happy to help as needed. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 05:13, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

May 2022 at Women in Red

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Question from Retrodesignco (09:20, 10 May 2022)

Hi Pyrrho the Skipper! I believe you are my awesome new mentor. I am an artist and would love to create a Wikipedia page about myself. Is that something you could help me with?

I don't want to break any Wikipedia rules so I know I am going to need some guidance to make sure I do it correctly. I have recently worked with clients such as Samuel L Jackson and think it is time I start showing a better online presence for my work.

Thanks in advance and I look forward to working with you! Matt

P.S. Here are a few links that will help you know a bit more about me and my work

https://www.retrodesignco.co.uk/

https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/people/samuel-l-jackson-and-keanu-reeves-give-thumbs-up-to-south-yorkshire-artist-3604150

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/my-journey-design-matthew-heald/

https://blog.designbyhumans.com/blog/a-fireside-chat-with-retro-review-pro-tips-for-designers

https://blog.designbyhumans.com/blog/guest-blog-retro-review-the-all-over-christmas-sweaters --Retrodesignco (talk) 09:20, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

@Retrodesignco: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for reaching out! I will be glad to help (as much as I can) more thoroughly when I have a moment, but I would suggest adding these two sources to your list of media covering you and your company:

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/tv/barnsley-man-starts-making-shirts-23349427

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/arts-and-culture/film-and-tv/samuel-l-jackson-and-keanu-reeves-wearing-yorkshire-artists-t-shirts-3607126

The LinkedIn Pulse and DesignByHumans sources may be applicable for some information, but probably not for general notabililty, where you want the independence of traditional news coverage. So the more of those types of coverage, the better. Also, it's often best when a subject does not write their own article, for obvious reasons, but sometimes it's unavoidable. I may be able to help, there, though, if it turns out you meet the general notability requirements. I think you have a pretty good case for an article about yourself or your company. Other editors may disagree, though. Happy to help as soon as I have a moment. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 05:27, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from TarzanIQ on User:TarzanIQ/Sample page (13:15, 16 May 2022)

Please, i'm trying to begin editing but i don't really understand the instructions --TarzanIQ (talk) 13:15, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm happy to help as much as I can. I recommend you start with something simple, like fixing typos or adding Wikilinks. Would you like to try? I'm happy to provide an article that needs minor edits. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:23, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Tacotime431 (11:46, 22 May 2022)

Hello, how do I create a Wikipedia page? --Tacotime431 (talk) 11:46, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Tacotime, I recommend reading this page. Creating an article should only be done if you know your subject will pass the general notability guidelines. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:32, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

Hi Pyrrho the Skipper. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group. Please check back at WP:PERM in case your user right is time limited or probationary. This user group allows you to review new pages through the Curation system and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or nominate them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is vital to maintaining the integrity of the encyclopedia. If you have not already done so, you must read the tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the deletion policy. If you need any help or want to discuss the process, you are welcome to use the new page reviewer talk page. In addition, please remember:

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Question from Rubal Rajput on Talk:India and the Non-Aligned Movement (17:07, 26 May 2022)

Hii --Rubal Rajput (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

June events from Women in Red

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Question from Ian Tin (14:34, 31 May 2022)

Hello mentor, may you please help me in publishing my draft?

I spent my lot of time and hard work, and it is not valid to publish.

Please help. Thank you. --Ian Tin (talk) 14:34, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft link: [27] Ian Tin (talk) 14:36, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@Ian Tin: Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia and nice work gathering sources for your article. Your article is not likely to be published anytime soon, for reasons laid out in WP:EVENTCRITERIA and Let the Dust Settle. Because the event happened so recently, it is too soon to determine if the event is notable enough for inclusion. I recommend you wait a year and see if this event is still being discussed by the media. I highly encourage you to stick around though, and try editing some exisitng articles, as volunteering here can be very fun and fulfilling. Let me know if you have further questions. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:56, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Question from Jessicaaylen (14:55, 3 June 2022)

Hello Pyro, Can you help me in creating an article related to the black holes? --Jessicaaylen (talk) 14:55, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Jessicaaylen: I may be able to help. If this is your first article, have you read the "Your First Article" page yet? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I've read that... Jessicaaylen (talk) 15:51, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

:@Jessicaaylen: Excellent. So what do you need help with? Have you gathered the sources you need, and are ready to create a draft? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:52, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I'd created an article about the theory related blackholes but when I submit it's getting rejected and I don't know how to resolve the issue. I've linked 8-10 reference list about the news articles which I found on web. Can you help me with this..? Jessicaaylen (talk) 18:11, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

It appears the sources you provided do not establish notability. Newsanddc.com is not a WP:RELIABLE source. Do you have additional sources from reliable, independent, third-parties that establish notability? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 18:26, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Wilson Manishimwe (13:01, 6 June 2022)

How can I add a profile picture on my Wikipedia account? --Wilson Manishimwe (talk) 13:01, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Would you like to add one of yourself, or something else? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 18:33, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Edits to Waste Management Inc.

Dear Pyrrho and others that might read this - I've never used the talk page before and never written anything that was contested before so hope this actually communicates with you. If so, could you give me a little feedback on what you think is wrong with my latest suggested addition? I've tried to keep it factual, neutral in tone, well referenced, short, and significant.

FYI, I am not representing the company and I doubt its current management would be interested in what its previous management did on the environment. I was involved in the work at that time, and I think it is important corporate environmental history.

Please let know your thoughts. I've love to have a concensus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pelucidity (talk • contribs) 12:03, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Pelucidity: Thank you for coming here to ask. I'll try to help. Since you say you were "involved with the work" you technically have a conflict of interest, so it's hard for us to assume neutrality in your edits. Nevertheless, the reason your latest edits continue to get reverted are because you were circumventing the bold, revert, discuss cycle by not taking your edit to the Talk Page after it was reverted. The content itself is a different story, but myself and others felt that the additions you wanted to make were simply a company talking about what it wants to do (which is just PR), rather than its actual record, which was the point of the section. If you do not know how to start a new conversation on the Talk Page, I am happy to do that and tag you so you can see and respond. All editors are welcome but Wikipedia is a collaboration, so we all need to work together. I hope that helps. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:19, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Pyrrho - I'm happy to talk although I'm not clear how to do it and hope this works. Could you please begin by telling me what your concerns are about my latest proposed addition? I am not representing the company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pelucidity (talk • contribs) 15:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I just started a new section on the Talk Page for Waste Management and tagged you. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:19, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes, please start a new conversation on the Talk Page and tag. Perhaps some more context from me will be helpful. Pelucidity (talk) 21:24, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

@Pelucidity: I already have. It's at the bottom on this page. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 22:34, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Question from Senthil Kumar ponmudi (00:53, 22 June 2022)

I want to add my details in it --Senthil Kumar ponmudi (talk) 00:53, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Could you tell me what you're talking about? Thanks! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 03:02, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Pyrrho the Skipper,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 11887 articles, as of 04:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

Reminders

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New page reviewer granted

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• If you are not sure what to do with a page, don't review it – just leave it for another reviewer.
• Accuracy is more important than speed. Take your time to patrol each page. Use the message feature to communicate with article creators and offer advice as much as possible.

The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. – Joe (talk) 14:07, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red in July 2022

Women in Red July 2022, Vol 8, Issue 7, Nos 214, 217, 234, 235 Online events: New: Alphabet Run: A to B | Baltic States Continuing: Climate (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman See also: Women in Green's Good Article Editathon: July 2022 – Women and the Environment Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

--Lajmmoore (talk) 15:49, 27 June 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging

thanks for assuming good faith

i know the advice is plastered all over the WP: pages, but you might be the first user i've seen that actually does it (at least for an ip editor).

yeah, i may be going overboard, but it's been interesting how many bureaucratic hoops i've had to jump through to make a single small edit on a single page.

makes me wonder how wikipedia has content at all haha 50.45.170.185 (talk) 19:26, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

I try. Many of us have dealt with some serious resistance to seriously uncontroversial edits in the fringe space in the past, and what I find most helpful is simply to start an RfC about a minor point, phrased neutrally, and let outside opinions help establish a consensus. It's a pain, but I think it's the only way. Sometimes it doesn't go the way we hoped, and then, at the very least, it might be a learning experience. Anyway, we all need space to learn and grow and I hope you create an account, and stick around. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:37, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I've definitely learned a ton. Honestly I'm not sure how I've been on the internet this long without knowing the inner-workings of possibly the largest open, collaborative site in existence. I was hesitant to use RfC at first because the WP: page said it was a very time consuming so idk it sounded very serious, but I will take that advice in the future if I ever edit again (tbh after this ordeal I may never, I'm not sure the site deserves improving).

As for making an account, I might not be allowed to (see my talk page).

Thanks again 50.45.170.185 (talk) 19:51, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

		The Mediator Barnstar
		For treating everyone like a human even during tough debates involving the biggest and smallest. 50.45.170.185 (talk) 19:45, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Hey, that's a kind gesture. Made my day better. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:50, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Actually, I think I changed my mind. I stepped outside of the zefr-sphere for a bit and saw some good things. Other decent editors. Things I can improve for tens of thousands of readers, and without being ridiculed, reverted and blocked. Things worth improving. And they need it badly.

As for medical articles... It's a lost cause. I hope people don't seriously use WP as a source of medical information, and even more so after this. Talk to your doctor instead. They're smarter than doctors that spend all day doing janitorial copy-editing and arguing online. 50.45.170.185 (talk) 23:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, there is always plenty to do here. And you're a good editor. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

New Page Patrol | July 2022 Backlog Drive
On 1 July, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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Question from Himanshujain99 (12:24, 21 July 2022)

Let me know how can i add more information in health niche articles, i am a beginner at wekipedia, plz let me know --Himanshujain99 (talk) 12:24, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

@Himanshujain99: Do you know how to edit an article in general? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 14:44, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2022

Women in Red August 2022, Vol 8, Issue 8, Nos 214, 217, 236, 237, 238, 239 Online events: New: Alphabet run: C and D | Indigenous women | Refugees | Comedians, Comics and other Performers Continuing: Climate (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman See also: Interwiki Women Collaboration focus on UEFA Women's Euro 2022, August 8–21 Other ways to participate: Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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NPP drive award

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	This award is given to Pyrrho the Skipper for 17 reviews in the July NPP backlog reduction drive. Your contributions played a part in the 9895 reviews that took place during the drive. Thank you for your contributions. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 09:15, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

@Zippybonzo: Thank you. Happy to help, and glad to see so much participation from editors. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:45, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Vijaysingh05 on Kaun Banega Crorepati (13:39, 3 August 2022)

Public ki life kya h --Vijaysingh05 (talk) 13:39, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Question from Candelex5 (07:52, 4 August 2022)

Hello Rusty4321. I'm having problems with a user that keeps deleting my work on a page and knowingly putting false information on it. The user has nominated the page for deletion several times, and when it was voted "keep" then she deleted most of the information to leave the page as bare bones as possible. It's like some personal vendetta against the subject or something racially motivated because she seems obsessed about changing the subject's nationality.

I added and cited new info, and corrected some critical mistakes on the page, but she keeps saying the sources are not reliable... but they are major media outlets like The Economist and NBC News.

Here you can see the history of the page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jorge_Thielen_Armand&action=history

If you can let me know if I'm doing something wrong, or what I can do about it, that would be greatly appreciated !

Thanks --Candelex5 (talk) 07:52, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Candelex5: I'm not sure if you meant this for @Rusty4321: or me, but I have restored the page to the version before the editor removed content. Please remember to assume good faith, however. I will watch the article, and jump into discussion if need be because I think the article was fine before the editor removed content. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:23, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello Pyrrho the Skipper,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination

MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.

Open letter to the WMF

The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.

TIP - Reviewing by subject

Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.

New reviewers

The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.

Reminders

• Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
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Question from Elia1973 (16:37, 13 August 2022)

How can I apply for section 8? --Elia1973 (talk) 16:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@Elia1973: What's a section 8? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP message

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Question from Larry432 (12:43, 22 August 2022)

I would like to know the best way to make a Wikipedia article on a person who is not known well in the public eye. --Larry432 (talk) 12:43, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Larry432 That's not possible. If you want to write about someone not in the public eye, use social media. 331dot (talk) 12:47, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

I have information on the person im researching but it is newspapers that other people who do not have the newspapers. Larry432 (talk) 12:52, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Newspapers do not need to be online, they need only to be publicly available. A printed copy in a library is fine. 331dot (talk) 12:56, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red in September 2022

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Question from SHARATHSHA07 (08:08, 5 September 2022)

Hello Pyrrho, Happy to be mentored by you. Looking forward. Thanks. --SHARATHSHA07 (talk) 08:08, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

What are you hoping to work on? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:52, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from Bobajiroro on Zulfat Suara (21:00, 8 September 2022)

Hello. How are you? Thanks for being my mentor. How can I delete an image? I added an image to the page last night, however, it is not in the right place. I tried to delete it but could not, so I added the same image again. Now there are two images (portraits). I have minimized the second portrait and you can hardly see it. It is below the election stat. How do I permanently delete it (its like a small dot now)

Thanks

How do I --Bobajiroro (talk) 21:00, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I removed it. You just have to delete the line that has "File:" in it. It should be good now. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:40, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Bobajiroro (talk) 22:13, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from DennisTlawrence (21:28, 8 September 2022)

I can’t edit my contribution --DennisTlawrence (talk) 21:28, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

The only contributions I see from you are on you Talk Page. Is that what you mean? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Question from EssexRegionConservation (20:00, 12 September 2022)

Hi There! I have noted some errors on the John R. Park Homestead Conservation Area page, incorrectly identifying it as a stop on the Underground Railroad. I've made the correction (as the citation actually relates to the Park House in Amherstburg, but would like to actually remove the subheading from the listing entirely to eliminate confusion. Thanks for any guidance you can provide. --EssexRegionConservation (talk) 20:00, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello, @EssexRegionConservation:. You can simply go into "Edit Source" and delete the following:

==Underground Railroad==

[[File:Levi Veney, ex-slave who lived in Amherstburg, Ontario (I0024830) (cropped).tiff|thumb|Levi Veney, ex-slave who lived in Amherstburg, Ontario. Taken at J. D. Burkes’ general store, [ca. 1898]]] :After crossing the border between the United States and Canada, the Park House in Amherstburg offered protection and shelter upon entering Upper Canada, now Ontario.<ref name="BH">{{Cite web |title=Black History-From Slavery to Settlement |url=http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/en/explore/online/alvin_mccurdy/settlement.aspx |access-date=2021-06-06 |website=www.archives.gov.on.ca}}</ref> One of the [[freedom seekers]] who came through the Park House in Amherstburg was a former enslaved man, Levi Veney.<ref name="BH" />

Let me know if you need more help. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:09, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Third opinion

Hi pls intervene on third opinion, pls check talk pages of User_talk:Ab207 and Cinema of India. Fostera12 (talk) 13:15, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Jayanthkumar123 and Fostera12

Hey Pyrrho the Skipper, as you gave your input regarding the issue of the article Cinema of India, can you also give your inputs or opinion on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Jayanthkumar123 and Fostera12. This user Fostera12 is blaming and making personal attacks against me saying that I have added promotional stuff. Also, the user always exaggerate the things. I have clearly stated everything and pinged three users, out of which two of them seemed to be non-administrators. Hoping for resolving the issue soon, as I have already decided to pause my edits on Wikipedia. Thank you. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 17:36, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

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Question from DennisTlawrence on Wikipedia:IRC help disclaimer (02:21, 4 October 2022)

Hi I was wondering if you could review my draft --DennisTlawrence (talk) 02:21, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

@DennisTlawrence Thanks for reaching out. It's a pretty good draft, though you will need to rewrite a bit for style/tone, move the image to the right side of the page, and add more sources as references for notability. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:30, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

What is all considered as sources? DennisTlawrence (talk) 18:11, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

@DennisTlawrence You will need more sources similar to the one you have already added. News coverage or other coverage in the media from independent, third party outlets. You can read all about sourcing here. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 18:13, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive is on!

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Thanks for the reminder! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:26, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Pyrrho the Skipper,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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Women in Red November 2022

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NPP Backlog Drive Award

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	This award is given to Pyrrho the Skipper for collecting more than 10 points doing reviews and re-reviews, in the October NPP backlog reduction drive. Thank you for your contributions. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 08:48, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

A successful drive. Thanks! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:05, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Pinging

Note that this ping won't have worked, because the ping & the signature need to be made in the same edit, see WP:PING. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:51, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Oh right, I feel like I was told that before and promptly forgot. Thanks! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:52, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

3O on St Mungo's High School

How does a topic that has been on the article's talk page for a mere 14 [incorrectly entered as 4] hours possibly qualify as "thoroughly discussed on the article talk page"? How about actually leaving the topic long enough for other editors to see it and respond before accepting a 3O? Meters (talk) 00:19, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

@Meters I would take that up with the user who posted the 3O, not me. But the discussion seemed like a stalemate to me, and I doubt that Talk Page is going to see much activity. Either way, I agreed with you, so why are you mad? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 00:23, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm not mad. I just think that it was premature to take it to 3O, and that you should not have accepted it as having been thoroughly discussed. Meters (talk) 00:52, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Meh. I don't really see the difference between me (some random editor) commenting from a 3O and some random editor seeing it on the Talk Page organically, and providing an opinion. It's just a 3O. It's not rule of law. Further discussion can still happen. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 00:57, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Wawrinaaa (13:48, 14 November 2022)

Hi! I've just recently joined wiki and tried my best in editing and I've got a question. I tired adding a reaction scheme to a page. I made it myself and it was similar to the other ones, but not the same as the other ones didn't look into stereochemistry which mine did. As i tried uploading this is said that "Wikipedia commons doies not accept it" and later after adding some tags to it, is said that it "looks like something similar is already there". Did I do something wrong? --Wawrinaaa (talk) 13:48, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

@Wawrinaaa Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm sorry to hear that you've been having challenges. What you're attempting to do seems like something that should be discussed on either the article Talk Page, or at Project Chemistry Talk Page. The latter may be best, since it seems pretty active. If you don't get an answer in a few days, feel free to come back here. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:00, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Ahmedayusuf (00:16, 15 November 2022)

How can I create an article about myself? --Ahmedayusuf (talk) 00:16, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Subjects are strongly encouraged to not write articles about themselves, as it's nearly impossible to write about oneself from a neutral point of view. The article must also contain multiple, independent, reliable sources to justify notability. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 00:56, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from JimmyTrivedi (15:25, 19 November 2022)

Hi, I wanted to create a Wikipedia page about one temple, which is already verified by Google business. --JimmyTrivedi (talk) 15:25, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

Okay, what do you need help with? Note that being "verified" by Google business does not imply notability for an article. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 04:28, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

So what should I do? Should I create it or not? JimmyTrivedi (talk) 15:29, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

@JimmyTrivedi First, make sure that your temple is not already covered in an article here, and then ask yourself if it meets the notability requirements of having more than a passing mention in multiple independent, reliable sources. Then, I suggest you read this page. If you have questions a long the way, feel free to reach out! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:19, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

@Pyrrho the SkipperI believe that this is popular, can you tell me from where to start? JimmyTrivedi (talk) 05:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

@JimmyTrivedi If you've read the pages I shared with you, and you believe the subject is notable, I suggest starting here. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 14:48, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red in December 2022

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Question from Oscar lnn (14:56, 28 November 2022)

actor policia alguna peliculas --Oscar lnn (talk) 14:56, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

En que lo puedo ayudar? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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thank you ...

November songs

... for a constructive comment in the Laurence Olivier RfC, to which I referred in my arbcand questions. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:43, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Glad that RfC turned out the way it did. That was a weird one. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:28, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Singularitywiki (03:54, 17 December 2022)

Hi mentor, what do you think about this, I would add more if this is approved. I just want to make sure you think it fits WP:ACADEMIC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_P._Wilkinson_(chemical_engineer_scientist_)

Thanks!

Thanks! --Singularitywiki (talk) 03:54, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

@Singularitywiki It's a decent article, but it reads a bit promotional. I might go through and copyedit a bit. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:11, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Singularitywiki (talk) 21:57, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Question from QDJ22 (20:01, 20 December 2022)

Hello, You have been assigned to me as a mentor. looking forward to learn from you, Best Regards --QDJ22 (talk) 20:01, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@QDJ22 What kind of things are you hoping to do on Wikipedia? I'm happy to help. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Looking forward to learn about wikipedia and be an editor QDJ22 (talk) 12:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Question from DennisTlawrence (18:55, 24 December 2022)

About How many references exactly do I need? --DennisTlawrence (talk) 18:55, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

@DennisTlawrence There's no right number, but I would say at least three. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:12, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

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	Hi Pyrrho the Skipper, Thank you for all your contributions during the year. May your 2023 be filled with creativity and good health. Image: Egrets in Snow, Ohara Koson, 1927 Netherzone (talk) 02:21, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

@Netherzone Thanks! Back at ya. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Women in Red January 2023

Happy New Year from Women in Red | January 2023, Volume 9, Issue 1, Nos 250, 251, 252, 253, 254 Online events: New: Peace and Diplomacy (year-long initiative) | Alphabet run M & N | Geofocus East Asia Continuing: #1day1woman | Women who died in 2022 See also: Editing For Effie collaboration with the Smithsonian, January 8 & 9 (global event) Tip of the month: De-orphan and incorporate an article into Wikipedia using the Find Link tool Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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Question from Yemkay212 (20:52, 29 December 2022)

Hello, I don't know how to go about the editing process --Yemkay212 (talk) 20:52, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Precious

united we dream

Thank you for quality articles such as Strange Academy, Stephanie Hans and United We Dream, for copy-editing and reviewing new articles, for living kimdness and old-fashioned values, and for putting the reader first, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2791 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Oh my goodness, @Gerda Arendt you have made my day. Thank you! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 22:40, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Pyrrho the Skipper,

New Page Review queue December 2022

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

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Question from Larry432 (03:32, 27 January 2023)

Hello I would like to know how to edit better --Larry432 (talk) 03:32, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

@Larry432 welcome! What types of editing or articles are you most interested in? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 23:26, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm lonely... Life is so hard ...I feel like a failure I can't be a wikipedia editor... Sometimes I feel like ending it all ... I miss her... Larry432 (talk) 14:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

@Larry432 I'm sorry you're feeling that way. I see that you haven't made many edits. What kind of things are you interested in? Maybe you and I can go improve some articles in your areas of interest? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 14:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red in February 2023

Women in Red Feb 2023, Vol 9, Iss 2, Nos 251, 252, 255, 256, 257, 259 Online events: New: Alphabet run O & P | Black women | Justice | Folklore Continuing: Peace and Diplomacy (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman Tip of the month: Explore Wikipedia for all variations of the woman's name (birth name, married name, re-married name, pen name, nickname) Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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Question from SomaSekharAtluri (19:39, 31 January 2023)

Hey I am really exited to contribute to wikipedia. As I was a beginner can you please suggest the right path to contribute to this platform

also i would really like to know what are the difficulties you faced when you started this journey like losing account access for long time. How can I avoid being blocked by Wikipedia .

Thank-you --SomaSekharAtluri (talk) 19:39, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi @SomaSekharAtluri welcome! The right path is to find something you're intersted in, such as a specific type of editing (typos, copyediting, adding content to articles, patrolling for vandalism, etc.) or a particular topic you're interested in, and wade in gently. What are you hoping to get out of it? What are you interested in? As far as bans and blocks and what not, I've never had to deal with that, but all I can say is that if you're editing in good faith, you're unlikely to be banned or blocked. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 23:31, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Question regarding DRN, RfC, 3O

Hi! I hope you don't mind me asking. I am quite confused on the difference between all of these consensus methods. What is the difference between them? Is DRN for complicated issues, 3O for like more citation issues and RfC a method of sounding out community opinion? Thank you so much for your help! Chefs-kiss (talk) 13:57, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Chefs-kiss. It's definitely not clear how they all differentiate, and there is overlap. DRN is more of a catch-all for any dispute that's been extensively discussed and is at a stalemate. 3O is a very early-stage attempt to resolve a dispute between only two editors that is not going anywhere. RfC is a later-stage method that can be employed after a 3O (if an editor is not willing to accept the soft consensus of the 3O), or if multiple editors have entered the conversation and there is no consensus. I usually avoid DRN and use other noticeboards to get other editors involved, or a 3O. And if there is no consensus from that, then an RfC is a fantastic tool. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 14:46, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the clarification! I want to help a bit more with the consensus processes but I am unsure where to start. I've been pointed towards 3O but I wanted to know your opinion as well. Chefs-kiss (talk) 14:54, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

@Chefs-kiss That's awesome. Consensus-building is one of the best parts of Wikipedia, in my opinion. Commenting on an RfC is probably the easiest way to get involved, as providing a 3O is your opinion alone, and a bit more definitive and can leave you more open to criticism, but if you don't mind that, then that's a great way to get involved and practice giving independent judgments. Actually closing an RfC requires time and experience, but is one of the most interesting things one can do here, IMO. See ya out there. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red March 2023

Women in Red Mar 2023, Vol 9, Iss 3, Nos 251, 252, 258, 259, 260, 261 Online events: New: Geofocus Mediterranean | Art + Activism | Alphabet run Q & R Continuing: Peace and Diplomacy (year-long initiative) | #1day1woman | Folklore See also: #Visible Wiki Women Wikimedia challenge to add more images of women to Commons Tip of the month: Mobile phone readers may only see the article "lead" – take some time to make it shine! Include something to keep people reading. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events. Follow us on social media: Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter

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Question from تامر 555 on OpenAI (22:21, 26 February 2023)

لو اشتريت عربيه مكروباص هكسب منها --تامر 555 (talk) 22:21, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mark Asread on User talk:Pyrrho the Skipper (22:42, 17 March 2023)

Hi, Pyrrho. Looks like you are my mentor, and I’m wondering if you can give me some tips. I just got back from a trip to Guadeloupe, where I visited the Mémorial ACTe - a museum dedicated to preserving the memory of slavery, and in particular France’s role in it. (https://memorial-acte.fr/)

On my return I discovered that there is no English language Wikipedia entry for this place, which I certainly think is notable enough. I’d like to create one.

A million years ago I created a page for Vermont Author Ralph Nading Hill, and despite being a total Wikipedia newby, I think I did a creditable job.

There is an extensive entry for Mémorial ACTe on the French language Wikipedia, and that would probably be a good starting point, even with my limited French, but any help you can give me on how to get this started and what pitfalls to avoid would be appreciated. --Mark Asread (talk) 22:42, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mark Asread Thanks for reaching out. Depending on your level of translation abilities, translating the article into English may end up being more headache than its worth. If you're confident in your French, you could translate the article into a new article here, and provide attribution that the text is copied from another Wikipedia. My recommendation is that you create a new article in English, and either: A): Keep it short and tag it as an article that needs translating/expanding from the French Wikipedia, or B): just fill out as much as you can in English, using sources from the French article or elsewhere, and leave it for you or others to expand as needed in the future. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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Question from MD. HAIUL MIA (12:52, 2 April 2023)

I want to public a person . He ( Professor AKM Manzurul Alam) is one of the biggest Heart Surgeon in Bangladesh. I just create a profile on Wikipedia . --MD. HAIUL MIA (talk) 12:52, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Wendymadoski (18:15, 23 April 2023)

Hi, nice to meet you. I have a question on putting up a wiki page that I created and was wondering if you could just direct me to the proper area thank you. --Wendymadoski (talk) 18:15, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

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Question from AIVOP (20:18, 28 May 2023)

thank you, to be honest im being stupid for almost 2yrs just now i see my homepage --AIVOP (talk) 20:18, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Rehamo Store (10:31, 10 June 2023)

Hello, Rehamo is a healthcare store in bengaluru setup 5 years before. We are planning to create a article about it in Wikipedia. Please help us with the guidelines and rules to follow. --Rehamo Store (talk) 10:32, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from Buddyh58 on Help:Viewing media (04:31, 11 June 2023)

Hello. Looked up KPIX Dance Party SanFrancisco 1959 to 1963 and wanted to add info and photos of Buddy Holly who was there when it was the Ted Randal Show in 1958 --Buddyh58 (talk) 04:31, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

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New Page Review queue April to June 2023

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Question from Rjlombardo on Talk:Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani (13:12, 25 June 2023)

Hello --Rjlombardo (talk) 13:12, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Syedbasharat12 (16:14, 1 July 2023)

Hllo ! I want to know that how can I publish an article or pdf of study material. --Syedbasharat12 (talk) 16:14, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Question from Robert.Weston.NY on User:Robert.Weston.NY/sandbox (22:26, 4 July 2023)

How to add a tag? --Robert.Weston.NY (talk) 22:26, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red 8th Anniversary

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Question from Deancliddell on Draft:Bianca Carnovale (01:49, 23 July 2023)

It won’t let me publish. --Deancliddell (talk) 01:50, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

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Question from AlXGX21 (14:26, 30 July 2023)

Hello Pyrrho the Skipper, I'm new to wikipedia and I'm not sure what I can do. When making editions, what fundamentals should I follow to avoid getting into trouble in the future? AlXGX21 (talk) --AlXGX21 (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

Question from Iyce Chainz on Kenya Film Commission (12:07, 2 August 2023)

Hello --Iyce Chainz (talk) 12:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

September 2023 at Women in Red

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New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive

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Question from SpaceCowboy444 (21:17, 20 September 2023)

Hi! If I'm unsure of an edit in an article, can I ask you to review it? I mean, one specific change - not all the changes in a particular article. --SpaceCowboy444 (talk) 21:17, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Bandr Alhabari on Help:Introduction to editing with Wiki Markup/1 (18:03, 22 September 2023)

ارجو الامساعده منك --Bandr Alhabari (talk) 18:03, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Women in Red October 2023

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Question from Dannym93 (09:42, 4 October 2023)

Hi,

I would like to create a Wikipedia page for my CEO. He has a good coverage on many publications. --Dannym93 (talk) 09:42, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, have you read WP:Notability? Start there and make sure that the publications are significant enough. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:27, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from My middle name is win (18:10, 7 October 2023)

Hi there,

I created an article on one of my favorite modern artists in my sandbox. what now? --My middle name is win (talk) 18:10, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from My middle name is win (18:11, 7 October 2023)

Im going to refer to YouTube just now. is there a way for you to view it and tell me what I need to do more? I need to add pictures... --My middle name is win (talk) 18:11, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@My middle name is win Hi, you'll need to show that the artist has been mentioned in independent third-party media. Do you have links to anything other than social media? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:19, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I have links to his website My middle name is win (talk) 20:06, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

I also added links to articles written on him My middle name is win (talk) 20:10, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Discussion started about redlinked lists in taxon articles

Hi Pyrrho the Skipper, I disagree with your interpretation of the redlinks policy, so have started a discussion at the Tree of Life talk page to invite more people to comment. Esculenta (talk) 01:10, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Esculenta Thanks for doing that, I could be wrong. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 03:14, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Notice of Report 12 October 2023

Hello. I am required to notify you of an active discussion involving a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy edit warring. Atinoua (talk) 06:36, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Net Zero emissions

Hi and thanks for offering to help with climate articles! I hear you're interested in skepticism, so I'm wondering if you might want to help our readers understand net zero claims. All sections of the net zero emissions article could use expansion, e.g. by explaining what are the starting line criteria. Some good sources:

• https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/net-zero-pledges-grow
• https://www-nature-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/articles/d41586-023-01976-0
• https://climatechampions.unfccc.int/system/criteria/
• https://zerotracker.net/analysis/net-zero-stocktake-2023

Does this sound fun? Cheers, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 22:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@Clayoquot Yes, this does sound fun and I certainly appreciate you taking the time to lay this out for me. I'll do some reading and start chipping away where I can.

Much thanks! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 22:59, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Wonderful! See you! Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 23:44, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from MLMpenguin (23:20, 12 October 2023)

Hi! I was wondering how Wikipedia identifies typos and reccommends different articles to edit. If it can identify typos, can't it fix them its self? --MLMpenguin (talk) 23:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@MLMpenguin I don't really have an answer for you, unfortunately. You might ask at the Teahouse. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:27, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from BlueGaming2012 (21:31, 16 October 2023)

Hello, how do I make my edit so everyone can see it. --BlueGaming2012 (talk) 21:31, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@BlueGaming2012 Do you know how to go into an article and make an edit? Where you see the words "edit source", that is what you cick to make an edit. When you've made your edit, you click "publish" to make it live. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:54, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Question from CallMeCrimson (22:18, 25 October 2023)

Hi. Would It be ok for me to add any info to a game's page to clarify anything plot wise, or give like a list of characters? Cause there's a couple right off the bat that I would be interested in doing. (also I can get extra credit for this too, so I'll do my best to keep it accurate) --CallMeCrimson (talk) 22:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@CallMeCrimson If you have a source for it, it's probably fine. Happy editing! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 01:52, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

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Question from TheGreatPeng (02:41, 28 October 2023)

Hi, my user page shows that you are my mentor on Wikipedia. I have a question. Are the articles that I created my own? I mean, do I own these articles? --TheGreatPeng (talk) 02:41, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

@TheGreatPeng Welcome to Wikipedia! No, you would not own the articles you create. All contributions are collaborative Wiki articles, whether you add one comma, or write the entire first draft. An article you wrote entirely could be completely rewritten, in theory. You can read all about that here. If you have any more questions, let me know. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 04:32, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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Questions about the Article Rescue Squadron

Hi Pyrrho. I ran across Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron recently and wanted to ask about Draft:John Bilbo (wrestler). Bilbo was the "original" Chief Jay Strongbow and a very important figure in 1950s pro wrestling. Its been rejected twice but I'd say it's definitely a notable pro wrestling topic. The original author left a message on the draft's talk page asking for help but hasn't gotten an answer yet. I've done a bit of work on it but figured it'd be more useful for Wikipedians to take a look at it. Is there a specific editor at the project I should be speaking to? Thanks. 173.162.220.17 (talk) 20:58, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for reaching out. It's a pretty well-written article, though it has probably too many inline citations. It looks the reason for the rejection comes mostly from the fact that you didn't include enough independent, third-party sources mentioning covering Bilbo's career specifically for him to pass notability requirements. My guess is that any coverage of him (not just facts appearing in census or databases) might be found in print sources such as books, newspaper and magazine archives, etc. You say he as "a very important figure in 1950s pro wrestling", If this is true, there is undoubtedly a lot of coverage of him out there, right? I would keep digging for those good sources and then clean out those citations sand refs o it doesn't look like you're just stuffing refs everywhere, and start a little smaller and cleaner for the article. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:08, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

I appreciate the advice, thanks. 173.162.220.17 (talk) 21:13, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Interstellaradrian (08:50, 13 November 2023)

Thank you for the support in advance. How do you like to approach the info boxes that appear on the right side of articles? I'm having trouble with image formatting in particular. Brand logos, for example. I just finished some edits to a new page for a brand (Boston Proper) and am unsure of how well it came out. --Interstellaradrian (talk) 08:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@Interstellaradrian The infobox looks okay. What's wrong with it? One way to get a good infobox is to find an existing article with one you want to emulate, and copy the code over to use as a template, replacing the info with yours. FYI, your current draft is written with a very promotional tone. If you want a better chance of getting this approved, and approved quickly, I recommend writing it with a neutral tone and trimming the length. Right now, it looks like it was written by a marketing person. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 16:28, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Quick question about machine translation

Hello! I have a quick question for you.

I am aware that machine translation is not allowed on Wikipedia. However, I have found this image that I would like to use in this article as an example of a withered CityTree in Macedonia. The problem is that the image is in Macedonian, which I don’t speak. I assume that I need to contact a Macedonian speaking Wikipedian and ask them to translate, but this seems much the hassle. Is there an alternate, easier route I can take?

I thank you very much for your time, and implore to respond at your earliest convenience.

All the best, Slamforeman (talk) 02:19, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

@Slamforeman Thanks for reaching out. If you haven't already, reading this page might help. Using a translation tool in this instance would probably be fine. You just don't want to have entire articles be published with machine translation and no human translator oversight. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk)

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Question from PKarczmarek (13:54, 28 November 2023)

I recently created a wiki webpage about "Cerro Armazones Observatory" in Polish and English. Today the name of the observatory has officially changed to "Cerro Murphy Observatory" and I would like to update both wiki websites (in Polish and English). I looked for a button "Move" but I can't find it. Is there any way I can do it myself or does there have to be an advanced wiki user to make this change for me? --PKarczmarek (talk) 13:54, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi @PKarczmarek, it looks like you're autoconfirmed, so you should be able to move it yourself, but since it's a brand new name change, you should wait until sources have started using the new name. See WP:NAMECHANGES. When sources have begun using the new name, you can move the article. The Move button is in the tools bar on the right in the new skin. I don't know what skin you're using, but if you still can't find it, you can access it with a URL here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MovePage/Cerro_Armazones_Observatory. I hope that helps and thanks for your contribution to Wikipedia. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from OperationLegacyWillFail (03:29, 8 December 2023)

Hi Skipper,

I just wanted to know how and who verifies the sources used on Wiki. Additionally, what are the requirements for a source that can be citied?

Regards OperationLegacyWillFail --OperationLegacyWillFail (talk) 03:29, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

@OperationLegacyWillFail Thanks for the question. All of us, including you and me, are who verifies the sources. At its most basic, a source should be independent of the subject (there are exceptions) and reliable. Editors (like you and me) must come to consensus on what we consider reliable. Over the years, common sources have been agreed upon as either reliable, unreliable, or case-specific. You can see that list here. For sources that you're unsure of, there is a noticeboard here, where that source can be discussed, and editors can look at that source for clues such as if there is editorial oversight in the form of a professional editorial staff, and other considerations. You can read all about sources here. Hope that helps. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 05:45, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Whoami313 (18:29, 15 December 2023)

Hello! I’m never sure if my edits are helpful. Are they? If not, how can I make them helpful? --Whoami313 (talk) 18:29, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

@Whoami313 Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for your question. Looking at your edits, I think you're doing a great job! Keep up the good work. This edit was probably unnecessary, though as I think it was fine how it was and there is now an ungrammatical "a" in there. But other than that I think you're doing a great job and very helpful. Feel free to reach out anytime. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 18:39, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from MynaDarkthunder (23:43, 19 December 2023)

Hello! Just a quick question, but do external links to other websites and accounts on one's user page, like a YouTube channel or artstation account, go against the neutral and non-advertisement sort of rule of the wiki? Not that I have anything to put, or that anyone has something, I'm just curious. --MynaDarkthunder (talk) 23:43, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

@MynaDarkthunder Thanks for the question. You can place a link. The policy is you can have a "small and proportionate amount of suitable unrelated material" on a user page, which includes external links. Hope that helps! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 03:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

@Pyrrho the Skipper Thanks a lot, Pyrrho. Yeah, that helps a lot, and is a great and conclusive answer to my question. Thanks for understanding my question too, despite me going against my policy of making correct and proper comments.

And your user name is Absolutely Magnificent. Mosstar (talk) 04:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

@MynaDarkthunder Aww thanks! Reach out any time Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 04:25, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

@Pyrrho the Skipper Of Course! (: Mosstar (talk) 04:33, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question from MynaDarkthunder (00:47, 21 December 2023)

What do you think of my edits? I tried to bring it more up-to-date, but all the sources I could find were from 2010, except for this one Airbus article on "how it lives on." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EADS_Barracuda --Mosstar (talk) 00:47, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

@MynaDarkthunder Thanks for your contributions to the encyclopedia. In general, your edits seem good and you have good editorial instincts. The source seems good, but I would caution about using the past tense to refer to the drone as it does not appear the past tense is commonly used when referring to vehicles no longer used (for example, the the P-51 Mustang), but I'm not a military history editor, so I would strongly suggest you ask the folks at the Military History Wikiproject for advice about specific military-related article style, since there may be onventions used in that space that I'm not aware of. Happy editing! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 02:40, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

@Pyrrho the Skipper I will ask the group mentioned, as I too am not a military history editor, and am rather new to this sort of thing. Thank you dearly for the kind feedback. Mosstar (talk) 03:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from I love trog 6000 (18:55, 22 December 2023)

Yo I'm trog how do I create a Wikipedia page homie --I love trog 6000 (talk) 18:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

@I love trog 6000 Welcome to Wikipedia. First, make sure that your subject is not already covered in an article here, and then ask yourself if it meets the notability requirements of having more than a passing mention in multiple independent, reliable sources. Then, I suggest you read this page. If you have questions a long the way, feel free to reach out! Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 21:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Cars101 on C-Tran (Washington) (21:04, 7 January 2024)

How do I add an image? --Cars101 (talk) 21:04, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

@Cars101 Are you trying to add an image of your own, or add an image to an article that already exists in Commons? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Image of my own. Cars101 (talk) 19:42, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

@Cars101 Have you read this page yet? That page will tell you everything you need to know. If you still have questions, feel free to ask. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:36, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Violetj2 (01:56, 9 January 2024)

Hi, thank you for being a mentor! I just made a couple updates to this page because there was old, incorrect information on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Illinois_Conference_(United_Methodist) I'm not sure I did it right but I tried my best and would welcome corrections, thank you! -Violet --Violetj2 (talk) 01:56, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

@Violetj2 Thanks for reaching out. Your edits are good and thanks for contributing. However, I would remove this bit: with its administrative offices at 303 E. Wacker Dr. in Chicago and the office of the bishop being in the Chicago Temple Building in Chicago, Illinois.. It's probably not necessary to list these two locations in the lead. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:48, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kalantorprokashoni (10:39, 17 January 2024)

সালাম, আমি একটি ইসলামি লাইব্রেরির তথ্য সংযোগ করার চেষ্টা করছি। আমার তথ্যটি কী এপ্রোভ হবে? --Kalantorprokashoni (talk) 10:39, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

আপনাকে অবশ্যই ইংরেজি উইকিপিডিয়াতে ইংরেজি ব্যবহার করতে হবে (Google Translate) Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by inserting commentary or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Diana Walsh Pasulka. Your uncritical promotion of pseudoscience at Wikipedia must end now. jps (talk) 17:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

You should follow the three-revert rule rather than edit war. And please WP:APR. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:06, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Your disruption on pages to insert uncritical support of pseudoscience goes back at least three years. You have been warned enough. If you do not reform or stop of your own accord, I will take you to the appropriate administrator noticeboard and request a topic ban. jps (talk) 17:10, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@ජපස Please just take me to ANB now, so we can resolve this. I'm not pushing any pseudoscience. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:12, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

As you wish. I am collecting the diffs from over the past years and will be presenting them as a textbook case of WP:Civil POV-pushing in favor of pseudoscience. This is across a wide swathe of topics and articles. It's appalling, really. jps (talk) 17:15, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@ජපස I respect your right to do that, though I know I'm not trying to promote fringe or psuedoscience, and have actively fought against those topics. Hope this is resolved amicably as I respect you and your contributions to Wikipedia. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

If you prefer, I can post the diffs here first to demonstrate what I mean. I think there is a slant here that is unmistakeable and it is driving directly in the direction of the Civil POV-pushing linked above (whether you intend that direction or not). To be sure, I do not like getting admins involved if I can help it, and I am happy to not do that in this case if you prefer an alternative model, but in reviewing your history, to me it seems the streak of "contrarian-ness" coming from the actions of your account coupled with what appears as knee-jerk defense of pseudoscientific positions is unmistakeable in my opinion. jps (talk) 17:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@ජපස I understand what you mean. From my perspective, because of the bad actions from true fringe supporters, I see a lot of over-correction and hyper-correction in the fringe space that often makes for articles that are self-contradicting, not following Wikipedia style, etc. and they often go unchecked (in my mind). There have several times when I've argued for a change in phrasing, then been called these things, and then be validated once it goes to RfC and more editors are involved, rather than the handful of FNB regulars. I am also happy to keep admins out of it, and I appreciate your attempt to engage further. I will heed your advice here and try to investigate my own behavior. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 17:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Diffs

• Expectation that sources that describe beliefs are worthy of inclusion. Note that the source was later identified by another editor at WP:FTN to be problematic, to say the least. Did you vet the source carefully?
• Claim that acupuncture is identified as effective but not in-line with proper WP:MEDRS sourcing, for certain. That providers may claim an efficacy to acupuncture without solid scientific evidence in favor of its effects beyond that of a placebo may be true, but the best sources we have indicate that acupuncture is not effective for anything.
• Adding "The Anomalist" as a source. Looks, at the very least, fishy. Sourcing to that "pulp media" treatment seems questionable at best.
• Complaints with a "doth protest too much" snark added! But I must be profringe because I'm saying this, right, Joe McCarthy?
• A restoration of a POV-pushing (at best) talkpage post which you later admitted was done in error.
• Concern trolling over identifying Falun Gong as a cult?!
• Whitewashing naturopathy

This takes me to November of last year. I was intending to go further back (all the way to 2021), but this at least gets you a feeling for what I am seeing from your account. jps (talk) 19:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for providing those. I would disagree with most of the problems you're seeing. For example, I don't think a change in wording following a consensus is "whitewashing" an article. And "snark" could be applied to you, too, don't you think? I'm happy to debate these points further, but I'm also happy to leave things be. I stand by my edits and comments. If this is still bothering you, I'm totally fine with going to ANB. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 19:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

My entire wikicareer has been one of navigating trouble dealing with accounts that function similarly to what is outlined here: a type of concern troll that we are being too mean to the beliefs of the [insert debunked idea here]. There was a time when a group of admins would argue that WP:NPOV meant that Wikipedia could not come out and state plainly various facts of the matter. Resistance to plainly describing acupuncture as ineffective, naturopathy as incompatible with most mainstream treatments, Falun Gong/Falun Dafa as a cult, etc. tilts Wikipedia in one particular direction: away from being neutral and towards an accommodationist, kid-glove treatment of pseudoscience. That appears to me to be your goal and it seems wholly incompatible with the editorial principles that are in force at this website. jps (talk) 19:36, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Demetriswesley93 (10:10, 25 January 2024)

How do I publish a page for myself? --Demetriswesley93 (talk) 10:10, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

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January 2024

This is the second time that you remove a tag while the discussion is ongoing. In case you haven't noticed, one of the editors (Tarl N) was warned by an admin for doing that, so please leave it alone until the issue is resolved. M.Bitton (talk) 15:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome Pyrrho the Skipper! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

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Question from RomDiggity (02:03, 7 February 2024)

Hello. How is my editing skills thus far for my first entry? Thanks. --RomDiggity (talk) 02:03, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Your editing skills are good. But for the article to be accepted you'll need secondary, independent, reliable sources that mention the company to show it's notable. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Unknowndust (03:07, 13 February 2024)

I posted on the "long covid" talk section back in March 12, 2022, but I am unable to find any visible history of the post other than I posted on this date. I am fairly inexperienced to the contributing aspect of the website, so any help and information on this would be greatly appreciated (such as how to view old posts, how to properly contribute to avoid unwanted outcomes, and contributing website navigation [talk section]). --Unknowndust (talk) 03:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Unknowndust (03:19, 13 February 2024)

Sorry, I have figured out how to see the old post mentioned prior. I would still like assistance with the parts. :) --Unknowndust (talk) 03:19, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@Unknowndust I was on a short break. Could you rephrase what you need help with? Happy to help, if I can. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:51, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

I am ok now, but I noticed in Colon Cancer, whenever I hover over Quality of Life a racist message pops up. I am going to try and fix it with my limited knowledge, so if I am unable to can you fix it! Unknowndust (talk) 02:53, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

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February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

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Question from The SMART apprentice on Talk:Parson Landing Airport (04:03, 17 March 2024)

Hello how do I create a citation? --The SMART apprentice (talk) 04:03, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Laurenmick on IOS 16 (22:48, 17 March 2024)

I want to upgrade my device to iOS 16 --Laurenmick (talk) 22:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from NallyWasHere (22:58, 23 March 2024)

Hello I want to create a Wikipedia page on this school I used to go to which got demolished 14 years ago am just wondering how do I create a Wikipedia page on a android --NallyWasHere (talk) 22:58, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Jwalzzz (16:21, 26 March 2024)

Hi, how do I create a page? I need to create one for my grandmother who is a prominent author --Jwalzzz (talk) 16:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Question from Blessing Deww (18:45, 29 March 2024)

How do i create an article and edit document --Blessing Deww (talk) 18:45, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Wastelandhero18 (16:42, 4 April 2024)

Hello, is there a way to add new images/other media to an article even though the image is not mine? I have noticed many articles lacking pictures and I have media such as audio files which could possibly improve certain articles. --Wastelandhero18 (talk) 16:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Question from Whoami313 (21:46, 10 April 2024)

Hello, I noticed that you have colored boxes to describe yourself. When I click, it says it can be added to the “user box” I clicked all around my page and didn’t see it. How do I find my user box?

   I also noticed that one of the colored boxes stated the levels of different languages you speak. I was wondering how to qualify for those. I am a native English speaker, know very little French, and know 3 words in Finnish.

Ty! --Whoami313 (talk) 21:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

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Question from C3S Business School (09:57, 8 May 2024)

HI i need to create business school profile so help me with that --C3S Business School (talk) 09:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a vanue to promote your organization. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from BHARGAV660 (15:31, 13 May 2024)

HI I WANT TO CREATE MY BIOGRAPHY PAGE HOW TO CREATE? --BHARGAV660 (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

See Help:Your first article but note that Wikipedia is not a venue to promote yourself. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from PeaceSister (13:45, 17 May 2024)

Hi, I can edit in French or English. I have a wide range of interests not all listed in the categories but I welcome this opportunity. Be well. --PeaceSister (talk) 13:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Welcome. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from 123hristo (15:20, 17 May 2024)

Hey,I wanna edit an existing English Page In My Language Bulgarian --123hristo (talk) 15:20, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Welcome. The Bulgarian Wikipedia is over there. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Neditts (01:31, 18 May 2024)

Hello. I

was looking at the "simple English" entry for "light" and saw an apparent typo in the last line of this paragraph:

The study of light is known as optics. When light hits an opaque object, it makes a shadow. When light hits a transparent object, it passes through it, almost completely with making a shadow.

Surely that last sentence should be:

When light hits a transparent object, it passes through it almost completely, without making a shadow.

Am I right? If so, I am unclear how to fix it. --Neditts (talk) 01:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

This appears to have been fixed. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from DJ.HAANI C (07:03, 23 May 2024)

Hello, how do I make my own article? --DJ.HAANI C (talk) 07:03, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

See Help:Your first article * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Ramesh Vattingavil (17:49, 30 May 2024)

Hello, I had edited a sandbox page recently almost 2 days back but now when I check it it does not show up. I would like how I can retrieve it and how i can permanently save the sandbox article edit. Please help with this matter. --Ramesh Vattingavil (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Your sandbox was deleted as WP:U5 by Fastily. From Google Translate that seems correct to me as Wikipedia is not a venue to promote yourself. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from AlwaysBlaze (17:06, 3 June 2024)

i need help making an article --AlwaysBlaze (talk) 17:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

See Help:Your first article * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Rhlp Engineering (17:40, 3 June 2024)

hey! apperintly your in charge huh? so! am I doing well? 44 edit's not bad, and also how'd you get that ublck origin and old computer badge? --Rhlp Engineering (talk) 17:40, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Welcome. You're off to a good start, but note mentors are not "in charge" of anything, just help out answering (or not) questions. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Aients (23:26, 7 June 2024)

Hello! Nice to meet you! I would like to start writing about LATAM tech entrepreneurs ;) --Aients (talk) 23:26, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Go ahead. Do you have a question? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from UmmiAdiza on Insurgency in Abkhazia (08:30, 15 June 2024)

Hello, please how do I do the correct --UmmiAdiza (talk) 08:30, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

This forum is for questions about editing Wikipedia. This question is not clear enough to answer. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Izzi Seth Gil on CapCut (13:44, 27 June 2024)

How do I make payment or add credit --Izzi Seth Gil (talk) 13:44, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Huh? This forum is for questions about editing Wikipedia. This question is not clear enough to answer. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2024

Women in Red | July 2024, Volume 10, Issue 7, Numbers 293, 294, 311, 312, 313 Online events: New: Translation contest 2024 | Science Fiction and Fantasy | Women in Sports Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) Announcements from other communities Wiki Loves Sport 2024 22 July - 22 September Tip of the month: A foreign language biography does not guarantee notability for English Wikipedia. Check the guidelines before you start. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

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Question from Lunchpails (19:37, 9 July 2024)

How do I add someone's bio who is referenced in several articles? --Lunchpails (talk) 19:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Assuming you mean "how do I create a new article on this person", see Help:Your first article. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from HasanSaba80 (19:14, 15 July 2024)

سلام درایران زندگی میکنم.... به دلایلی کسی ادمکش خواست انجام میدم --HasanSaba80 (talk) 19:14, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Google Translate says this means "Hello, I live in Iran.". Do you have a question? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from LuvkyStar (09:20, 16 July 2024)

Hi there my friend! I came here to fix a typo.. i have edited a few typos in the past but that's as far as I got. I just wanted to know what else is there I could do on Wikipedia besides doing typos that can actually be useful and make Wikipedia better each day? I'm not yet good at writing Wikipedia articles so that for now is out the question? Any suggestions something less stressful than writing an article but also something that can make me apart of the Wiki community while earning some perms for my hard work and consistency. Thank you! LuvkyStar (talk) 09:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from LuvkyStar (12:11, 16 July 2024)

Hey it's me again, I changed my mind, I discovered some notable artifacts and humans who deserve a Wikipedia article! Wow lol never knew they never had one and I will be taking my time to learn writing and contributing in all ways I can, any guidance would still be highly appreciated thank you! --LuvkyStar (talk) 12:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

(Filling in on behalf of Pyrro the Skipper who seems to have gone AWOL) See WP:Task Center for a list of tasks needing to be done on Wikipedia, as well as of course the list of Suggested Edits in your Special:HomePage. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Marked as away

I have marked you as "away" in the mentorship interface as you have not edited since March and a pile of unanswered questions is building up. Feel free to re-mark yourself as active if you return. Thanks. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red August 2024

Women in Red | August 2024, Volume 10, Issue 8, Numbers 293, 294, 311, 313, 314, 315 Online events: New: | Women in film and stage | Indigenous women Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) | Translation contest 2024 (July, August, September) | Women in Sports (July, August) Announcements from other communities TBD Tip of the month: Check your athlete's notability before researching and creating her bio. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

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New pages patrol September 2024 Backlog drive

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September 2024 at Women in Red

Women in Red | September 2024, Volume 10, Issue 9, Numbers 293, 294, 311, 316, 317 Online events: New: Women writers & their works | Geofocus: Islands A - H Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) | Translation contest 2024 (Jul, Aug, Sep) Announcements from other communities August 30 is the tenth anniversary of WikiProject Women writers! Tip of the month: Try her pen name when searching for sources, and remember to add her to any of these that apply: List of pen names, List of literary initials, and Category:Pseudonymous women writers. Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

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Women in Red October 2024

Women in Red | October 2024, Volume 10, Issue 10, Numbers 293, 294, 318, 319, 320 Online events: New: Women in STEM | Geofocus: Islands I-P | Women in archaeology Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) Announcements from other communities October is Women in Green's "Around the World in 31 Days" Good Article Edit-a-thon Tip of the month: Unsure how to expand a stub article? Take a look at this guidance Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

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Women in Red November 2024

Women in Red | November 2024, Vol 10, Issue 11, Nos 293, 294, 321, 322, 323 Online events: New: Asian women | Geofocus: Islands Q-Z | Women in engineering Continuing: #1day1woman | Education (year-long initiative) Announcements from other communities Annual Wikipedia Asian Month (WAM) is an online campaign designed to boost Asian content on Wikipedia each November. Unreferenced articles backlog drive. These Wikiproject clean-up lists offer a start to November's backlog drive, e.g. Women's History and Women writers Tip of the month: Looking for an image? Sometimes you can find openly licensed images at search.creativecommons.org/ Other ways to participate: Become a member. You can always opt-out of notifications. Join the conversations on our talkpage. Help us plan future events and add any general ideas on developing the project. Follow us on social media: Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

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