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Gomen
Me again. I know you are starting to think that I'm being a nuisance. I'm very sorry for that. I found some sources for Takako Matsu's videos. But I couldn't find sources for some others. The DVD listed here has the videos needing directors. I don't have the DVD with me, do you know anyone who can help? Where should I post a request for the the same information? ごだい (会話) 13:39, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Probably just the manual way is the best. Search around fansites and blogs to see if anyone mentioned in Japanese who the director was. I'm not sure if there's a better way! --Prosperosity (talk) 13:41, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- Looks like you filled them in :) Thanks a bunch for that! Arigatou gozaimasu! Can't thank you enough. ごだい (会話) 17:04, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
The article's live: Takako Matsu discography. A huge thanks to you. I couldn't have done it without you :) ごだい (会話) 16:55, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
- No worries! It seems like you've missed out the categories Discographies of Japanese artists and Pop music discographies, plus there's a reference explosion in the music videos section. --Prosperosity (talk) 01:45, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- Fixed. Guess I was too sleepy last night lol. Thanks again :) ごだい (会話) 03:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the edits :) ごだい (会話) 11:30, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
- Fixed. Guess I was too sleepy last night lol. Thanks again :) ごだい (会話) 03:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey! Can these links be used for "Ashita Haru"? [1], [2], [3]? ごだい (会話) 15:51, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- The first just says a live version was used in a streaming clip, the second, sure, it was performed on Music Graffiti, and the third doesn't mention anything about the song. --Prosperosity (talk) 04:04, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Btw, I found two reviews: [4] (I don't know what they mean by "彼女の出過ぎないすっぴんの歌声は、まさに早春の日溜りのごとく。19歳の瑞々しさがぎゅーっと詰まった、永遠のピュア・ソング。" Do they mean that her voice is sweet or not? Can you translate it for me?) and [5]. ごだい (会話) 05:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- The middle tempo sweet melody and her unobtrustive, naked voice is just like sitting in a sunny spot on an early spring day. It's an eternal pure song, packed full of the freshness of being 19.
- (The new version of) her debut song "Ashita, Haru ga Kitara" has a novel arrangement, where her voice today calls out to her innocent self of 10 years ago. Her voice, full of strength, makes you feel how much she has grown. (Takayuki Saito)
- How's that? --Prosperosity (talk) 06:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've added those in. All that's left is chart entry and first week sales, peak week sales, music video, live performances, and cover versions if any. I am surprised to see that the song has got very few reviews. Japan's such a huge industry when it comes to music and yet there's no review!? Is there any website/newspaper archives I can search for reviews? Like Asahi Shimbun or Mainichi, anything? ごだい (会話) 08:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- You'd have to go back to music magazines in 1998 to find any. If the song was liked you'll find a lot of glowing reviews, but if nobody liked it then they'll just ignore it entirely and not write any reviews on it. Any review sites I can think of only go back to the mid 2000s anyway. --Prosperosity (talk) 09:31, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ouch, that's bad. Can you name a few magazines and good review websites? Lol. ごだい (会話) 10:57, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- [6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18] are the ones in my bookmarks! Plus almost all music magazines will have a "review" section featuring entirely glowing reviews, and nothing critical. --Prosperosity (talk) 11:34, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, that's a whole lot of them :D Thanks! And, err that's weird. Is it because they don't want to hurt the writers and artists lol? Just kidding, but it's a bad thing to do, don't you think? I can list atleast 10 songs with crappy autotuned production (excuse the language) off the top of my head. It's my opinion though. It includes Namie and even Ayumi. If they're brought to light, we'll just keep on getting such songs. ごだい (会話) 13:07, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- It's a cultural thing, like how if someone's overweight or has a lazy eye in the UK, people might not say anything, but they would in Korea. It's part what you said, how it can be rude to give people bad reviews, but it's also using silence as a weapon. Like, if there's a review in the newspaper saying Chris Brown's new album is bad, at least people know that there's an album! -kinda thing. --Prosperosity (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- I see. Silence is such a huge weapon, lol. ごだい (会話) 03:49, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- It's a cultural thing, like how if someone's overweight or has a lazy eye in the UK, people might not say anything, but they would in Korea. It's part what you said, how it can be rude to give people bad reviews, but it's also using silence as a weapon. Like, if there's a review in the newspaper saying Chris Brown's new album is bad, at least people know that there's an album! -kinda thing. --Prosperosity (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, that's a whole lot of them :D Thanks! And, err that's weird. Is it because they don't want to hurt the writers and artists lol? Just kidding, but it's a bad thing to do, don't you think? I can list atleast 10 songs with crappy autotuned production (excuse the language) off the top of my head. It's my opinion though. It includes Namie and even Ayumi. If they're brought to light, we'll just keep on getting such songs. ごだい (会話) 13:07, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- [6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18] are the ones in my bookmarks! Plus almost all music magazines will have a "review" section featuring entirely glowing reviews, and nothing critical. --Prosperosity (talk) 11:34, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Ouch, that's bad. Can you name a few magazines and good review websites? Lol. ごだい (会話) 10:57, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- You'd have to go back to music magazines in 1998 to find any. If the song was liked you'll find a lot of glowing reviews, but if nobody liked it then they'll just ignore it entirely and not write any reviews on it. Any review sites I can think of only go back to the mid 2000s anyway. --Prosperosity (talk) 09:31, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! I've added those in. All that's left is chart entry and first week sales, peak week sales, music video, live performances, and cover versions if any. I am surprised to see that the song has got very few reviews. Japan's such a huge industry when it comes to music and yet there's no review!? Is there any website/newspaper archives I can search for reviews? Like Asahi Shimbun or Mainichi, anything? ごだい (会話) 08:18, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Btw, I found two reviews: [4] (I don't know what they mean by "彼女の出過ぎないすっぴんの歌声は、まさに早春の日溜りのごとく。19歳の瑞々しさがぎゅーっと詰まった、永遠のピュア・ソング。" Do they mean that her voice is sweet or not? Can you translate it for me?) and [5]. ごだい (会話) 05:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Special Barnstar | |
Thank you so much for spending time to fix my errors, finding sources for my articles, and above all, translating text for me no matter how long they are. I couldn't find any other suitable barnstar, so I award you this. You are great! ;) ごだい (会話) 04:43, 6 May 2014 (UTC) |
- Btw, just out of curiosity. Do you live in Japan? ごだい (会話) 04:44, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, no worries! I used to until last year, when I moved back to NZ. --Prosperosity (talk) 06:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- So you're originally from NZ! Cool. ごだい (会話) 10:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, no worries! I used to until last year, when I moved back to NZ. --Prosperosity (talk) 06:09, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, one question. What is this MyCDJPro? I was trying to view this article and got that message. Is it some kind of a review website? It sounds like CDJ has a magazine too.. ごだい (会話) 04:35, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- That's the one! They have more in-depth reviews and you can see things they published with a pay subscription. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:42, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. I'll try posting a reference request. ごだい (会話) 11:43, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, sorry to nag you again. Does the song 明日、 春が来たら even have an MV/PV? I can't find it online at all! This site (I think) says it has an MV, but.. Can you help? ごだい (会話) 15:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Blog people seem to think so, and say it was directed by Shunji Iwai along with the movie Shigatsu Monogatari. They could be just lying though! --Prosperosity (talk) 05:00, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
- SpaceShower TV says the video was directed by Hiroyuki :S Thanks btw. ごだい (会話) 03:38, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Weird! Which is why you shouldn't trust people's blogs. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:14, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, you're right :D I've sent Sony an email asking for details. Hopefully they'll clarify everything :) ごだい (会話) 04:50, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Weird! Which is why you shouldn't trust people's blogs. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:14, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- SpaceShower TV says the video was directed by Hiroyuki :S Thanks btw. ごだい (会話) 03:38, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- Blog people seem to think so, and say it was directed by Shunji Iwai along with the movie Shigatsu Monogatari. They could be just lying though! --Prosperosity (talk) 05:00, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, sorry to nag you again. Does the song 明日、 春が来たら even have an MV/PV? I can't find it online at all! This site (I think) says it has an MV, but.. Can you help? ごだい (会話) 15:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. I'll try posting a reference request. ごだい (会話) 11:43, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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Another favor..?
Hey there. Can you tell me what the title of the article about Matsu is from this link? Also, the contents page below, does it have the page numbers of the article? I've got two more things to be translated, if you don't mind. This one has Matsu's comment on the single (Ashita Haru). This has someone else's view on the album (please translate the part about Ashita haru for me). I have a passage too:
シングルの発売日にはアルバムのレコーディングでロスにいたので、変に意識 しないで済みました。たくさんの人に聞いてもらえたんだなと思うと、やっぱりうれしいですよね。
Pretty please. I know it's too much, but Google translate isn't of much help. Sigh. Thanks! ごだい (会話) 12:58, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
- 総力特集 松たか子 これが私の生きる舞台(ステージ) (20-67) (Takako Matsu massive feature article: this is the stage on which I live) [and yeah, all of that first page is on her!]
- She talks about how a bunch of great people got together and worked naturally, and she felt great that she could fit into that process too.
- The reviewer did it for BMG, so we can't even pretend he's impartial!
- She was in Los Angeles recording the album when the single dropped, but strangely didn't take it in and just went about finishing the recording. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks a bunch (to the power of infinity lol). Yeah, I realised it was a paid review, but since I don't have any other source which talks about the "pop" appeal of the song, I'll have to use it :( But I won't be using it as a review. ごだい (会話) 05:15, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- Btw, I listened to two of Sheena's songs. "Kofukuron" (video version, really good song) and "Stem". I really didn't get what the video about "Stem" is.. ごだい (会話) 05:17, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't seen it in years! The Vevo version has bits of the movie shoved in at the start, and she's dressed in character from the movie in the scenes, so maybe that's why it's a little crazy! --Prosperosity (talk) 07:19, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- I see, lol. Ryoga (talk) 04:32, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
- I haven't seen it in years! The Vevo version has bits of the movie shoved in at the start, and she's dressed in character from the movie in the scenes, so maybe that's why it's a little crazy! --Prosperosity (talk) 07:19, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
- Btw, I listened to two of Sheena's songs. "Kofukuron" (video version, really good song) and "Stem". I really didn't get what the video about "Stem" is.. ごだい (会話) 05:17, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks a bunch (to the power of infinity lol). Yeah, I realised it was a paid review, but since I don't have any other source which talks about the "pop" appeal of the song, I'll have to use it :( But I won't be using it as a review. ごだい (会話) 05:15, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
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Onegai..
Hi there. Hope you're doing well. I have a few more things to ask you. I know you do mind these messages and I'm really sorry for it! Please help me this time too :">
- At what position did Ashita Haru debut at? Can you give me the opening sales? Also, I'd like the sales of the peak week and the yearly chart and monthly charts?
- Did the song win any awards? JASRAC, does it have any award ceremonies?
- I realised the song doesn't have any PV, the one which SpaceShower TV has listed is probably the 97-07 version lol.
- Can you translate a few things for me? First, the review on "Zutto... Iyouyo" listed here. Second, this passage:
私が初めて歌詞を書いた曲。女の子が三人でドライブしてるって、テーマを与えられて書いたんですけど、どう見ても二人ですよね?^_^)
- Third, the important elements from these paragraphs. I know you said it's partial, but I need only the production-related, lyrics-related points, please feel free to omit the biased sentences (like "her voice sails like an angel's"):
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You do a lot for me and I find it really sad that I can't repay you :( Please do let me know if you need any help, I'll try my best to help you. Thank you. Ryoga (talk) 11:17, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- It debuted at #15 with 35,640 sales. It spent 9 weeks in the top 20 (15, 14, 10, 13, 8, 12, 10, 13, 15). Week 7 had the highest sales, with 60,030. Yearly it was #75 with 428,170 copies sold, and 431,540 copies in total. Because it was 1997-1998, they only had a top 100 then.
- Dunno! I've never really dealt with awardsy things, other than Space Shower/MTV ones, and I don't think they existed then.
- It does give the date as 1997/03/21, so it implies that it's the original. If it was the 2007 version it'd have the date for the 2007 album release (since the database is definitely older than 2007 I'm pretty sure it's being accurate).
- "The electro intro and warped guitar make this an impressive pop song." plus a description about how the song is about two girls in a car. Second one is "The first song I wrote lyrics to. I gave it a theme of three girls driving, but whatever way you look at it, it seems like two, doesn't it!" Third: AHgK was a song where Matsu was searching for what kind of song was hers. Sakamoto Yuji wrote the lyrics, remembering his teenage years (but I dunno if that's a fact, or the reviewer just saying that Sakamoto is old (there's no direct proof). Actually, there's no proof for the first one either, it could just be an assertion [in a way, every debut song is like that, I suppose]). The rest is basically fluff.
- No worries! I have some to-do lists at Talk:Ringo Sheena and Talk:Tokyo Jihen since they're a bit of a mess, but I have no idea if you'd be interested enough in either topic, lol. I'm just happy to help! I'm glad there are people working on Japanese music pages. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:40, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks (I think I've run out of words lol)! Regarding the MV, I can't find the video online at all :( I've searched everywhere.. As for the to do lists, I don't mind lol. I'll definitely help when I get time :) Any other articles you need help with? Ryoga (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm...it's a mystery!
- Looking at the artists you like, you could do up Feel (Namie Amuro album) look like Uncontrolled (album) and Checkmate! (Namie Amuro album), if you want! That charts section is looking awful, and Contrail is dying for an article too, since it did so well. I've also been planning on doing up the Ayumi discography in the style of the Koda one (look at it beforehand! lol), but it's so long and complicated. Plus there'd be so many angry people if I changed things around.
- I also want to bury any of the non-standard chart boxes you tend to get on Japanese pages, with the big box of monthly/daily positions and no figures at all. If you see any, it'd be super helpful to replace them with this style! I can always look up Oricon figures if you need them confirmed, too. --Prosperosity (talk) 14:21, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, lol yes.
- Oh, sure. I remember asking someone (was it you?) if they wanted to work on Queen of Hip-Pop :D I will definitely work on Feel. Yes! I have been thinking on creating an article for "Contrail".
- Ouch, that sure was bad! Luckily you arrived at the right time to rescue it :P That Ayumi discography looks awful. I posted a comment regarding that on its talk page, but no one replied. I think we should be bold and fix it up.
- I'm on it! I am even thinking of nominating Japanese music articles that are not notable for deletion as well. What do you think about that? Well, a rather OT topic: is Oricon's popularity on the decline? I can see that the album/single sales are too low. Most albums sell barely 100K copies on its first week (there are exceptions). I think they should take digital sales into consideration. Ryoga (talk) 14:34, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- I tend to prefer just giving them sources and making them notable, since they probably are, just the editors were awful. Feel free to do whatever, though! If a single/album is awful enough I'll skip the deletion process and just redirect.
- Just like every other music market! It's still the most prestigious of the charts, but it's clunky and old, and super '80s. Digital's also gone down lately in Japan, sadly! Just look at the big drop in RIAJ certs between November 2013 and November 2009. Billboard's a step in the right way, but they need to take account of rentals (a super big chunk of the market), and probably social impressions like Billboard US from Niconico/Youtube. They emphasise radio way too much, when it's something people barely listen to. --Prosperosity (talk) 14:51, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. I'll consult you before AfDing them then :)
- Yes! It is. Wow, that's a huge drop! What about streaming, is it popular? Radio, you're right lol. Not many listen to it these days. Rentals should be considered like you said. Unlike in the US, rentals are huge in Japan, I've heard. Ryoga (talk) 04:32, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- One more thing I wanted to ask, "Ashita Haru"'s peak was #8. What was the sales on that week? Ryoga (talk) 04:42, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Lol, just go for it. It's up to anyone who objects to find evidence for it to be kept!
- You mean like Spotify? I've never heard about people using that kinda thing in Japan, but maybe there's a small, dedicated group of people who do it.
- 46,400 copies.--Prosperosity (talk) 04:45, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, okay :D
- Yeah, like that. I haven't personally come across any service like that too..
- Thanks. Btw, I just posted a thread on JPOP Central regarding AHgK PV :D Hoping someone replies. Ryoga (talk) 04:57, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- One more thing I wanted to ask, "Ashita Haru"'s peak was #8. What was the sales on that week? Ryoga (talk) 04:42, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks (I think I've run out of words lol)! Regarding the MV, I can't find the video online at all :( I've searched everywhere.. As for the to do lists, I don't mind lol. I'll definitely help when I get time :) Any other articles you need help with? Ryoga (talk) 14:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
Another question
It seems like I'm always causing you trouble :"> This time, well, can you help me a find a good, free image of Matsu? I searched on flickr, but couldn't find one. Is there any other website like flickr? Is there any other website with free to use photos or photos which can be asked to be made CC license? Ryoga (talk) 13:15, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Lol. You're gonna have to like, make her perform in Taiwan or something. Photos of musicians are crazy hard to get in Japan! You're not supposed to bring cameras to concerts and stuff like that. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:19, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, really? That's bad for us lol. She never performed outside Japan, I think. Is there any news agency or something that allows usage of their photographs? Ryoga (talk) 03:56, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- By definition no, since it has to be under a free licence or a share-a-like licence where everyone who uses the photo in the future has to make the thing they made free. They wouldn't be making any money! Your best bet is flickr, or if one day there's a special overseas Frozen event she's invited to. The Japan Expo in Paris is a super great opportunity for pictures to be taken, so maybe get a lot of French people into her music, lol. --Prosperosity (talk) 04:04, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, you have a point :D The Japan Expo? Hmmm, I just checked it and it seems that Izumi Matsumoto of Kimagure Orange Road is a guest of honor. I hope someone takes a picture of him :) Ryoga (talk) 12:13, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Just look at all those photos! I wish every event in Japan was like that. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:54, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, awesome! I hope we get good pictures this year too. Ryoga (talk) 10:59, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Just look at all those photos! I wish every event in Japan was like that. --Prosperosity (talk) 00:54, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, you have a point :D The Japan Expo? Hmmm, I just checked it and it seems that Izumi Matsumoto of Kimagure Orange Road is a guest of honor. I hope someone takes a picture of him :) Ryoga (talk) 12:13, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- By definition no, since it has to be under a free licence or a share-a-like licence where everyone who uses the photo in the future has to make the thing they made free. They wouldn't be making any money! Your best bet is flickr, or if one day there's a special overseas Frozen event she's invited to. The Japan Expo in Paris is a super great opportunity for pictures to be taken, so maybe get a lot of French people into her music, lol. --Prosperosity (talk) 04:04, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, really? That's bad for us lol. She never performed outside Japan, I think. Is there any news agency or something that allows usage of their photographs? Ryoga (talk) 03:56, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Btw, a singer named Masaharu Fukuyama performed a cover of 明日、春が来たら for All Night Nippon on March 2, 1998. Can you help me find a source, please? Also, Namie Amuro has performed a cover too.. Can't find a source for that as well. Ryoga (talk) 17:30, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
- Are you sure? '"明日、春が来たら" "all night nippon" 福山雅治 1998' comes up with a single google hit. The archive for allnightnippon.com only goes back to 1999, so I'm not sure if I can help you there!
- I found the date of airing and the TV show for Namie, and that's citable.[1]
- ^ THE夜もヒッパレ (in Japanese). April 19, 1997. Nippon TV.
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--Prosperosity (talk) 05:38, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the Namie citation. As for Fukuyama, yes. [19]. Notice the first Youtube link? It says Masaharu Fukuyama@ANN though. Hey, I'd like to ask you something else too. Am I becoming a pest? Please don't hesitate to let me know if you're busy. Ryoga (talk) 05:56, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- In that case, you can probably just do the same trick, lol. And of course not![1]
- Thanks for the Namie citation. As for Fukuyama, yes. [19]. Notice the first Youtube link? It says Masaharu Fukuyama@ANN though. Hey, I'd like to ask you something else too. Am I becoming a pest? Please don't hesitate to let me know if you're busy. Ryoga (talk) 05:56, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- ^ 福山雅治のオールナイトニッポン 魂のラジオ (in Japanese). March 3, 1998. Nippon Broadcasting System.
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--Prosperosity (talk) 06:25, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- Hehe, I've added them. And like I said, please don't hesitate to say openly if I'm being a pest. Also, the main work on AshitaHaru is done. Please take a look. Can you add the necessary Japanese text and translations (like the names of TV shows, dramas etc.)?
- I express my heartfelt gratitude for all your support. You rock dude [or gal, if you're a girl. I'm assuming you're a guy lol]. Ryoga (talk) 10:48, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- You mean like this? --Prosperosity (talk) 09:15, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I didn't get what you meant :( I couldn't hold it in, the excitement of completing the article lol. That's why I sound weird in the above comment :D Ryoga (talk) 11:01, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Lol. I added trans_title's to the refs that seemed to need it. Is that what you wanted me to do? --Prosperosity (talk) 11:43, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yep! Thanks! I have one doubt: is there any chart/ranking for Chaku Uta releases (c. 2007)? Also, can you tell me what this video is about? It's a documentary, I think. It has the director of "Gomen ne." MV listed, can you give me their name? And, what does the doc. contain about "AshitaHaru"? If you don't mind, can you list the content? Ryoga (talk) 16:12, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- RIAJ had a monthly ringtone chart then. From 2006 until early 2009, the only thing of hers to chart was Minna Hitori.
- Jun Hara (原淳)
- Musical debut: At the wrap-up party for Long Vacation, she happened to sing karaoke. The director [she didn't say but maybe Chihiro Kameya? I'm not sure] heard her, and asked, "why don't you give singing a go?" First she refused, as she wasn't very confident as a singer. Eventually she accepted because she saw that this wasn't a chance many people got.
- 97-07: It was hard getting all of the 素材 (demos and mixing files and stuff) sent from her Los Angeles recordings for the song, but they managed to. She said something about Yuji Sakamoto rewriting bits of the lyrics to reflect the changes they'd both made in the past 10 years, but I haven't listened to the 97-07 version fully (you'd have to double-check if the lyrics are actually different)
- 97-07 cover jacket shot at Ebis Studio (恵比寿スタジオ) in Shibuya by someone with the last name Ōkawa (大川). --Prosperosity (talk) 08:11, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! I think it's time to wrap up my work on the article. I'm still looking for reviews (please add the ones you find!). After a copyedit, I think it's safe to nominate it for a GA (and if it passes, it'll become the first GA for Japanese music task force). I want to give you more than half the credit because without your help, the article would've become nothing. Ryoga (talk) 11:15, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well, in article space at least (with the discography page from last week!) Don't worry about it, you did all the work! Just give me a hand with mine in the future and I'll be all happy. I have a couple like Santa Maria (Kenshi Yonezu song) and Newtown (EP) that probably aren't far off (I tend to leave them at B-grade and don't have the effort to bother with the A-level checks and above.) --Prosperosity (talk) 12:56, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! I think it's time to wrap up my work on the article. I'm still looking for reviews (please add the ones you find!). After a copyedit, I think it's safe to nominate it for a GA (and if it passes, it'll become the first GA for Japanese music task force). I want to give you more than half the credit because without your help, the article would've become nothing. Ryoga (talk) 11:15, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yep! Thanks! I have one doubt: is there any chart/ranking for Chaku Uta releases (c. 2007)? Also, can you tell me what this video is about? It's a documentary, I think. It has the director of "Gomen ne." MV listed, can you give me their name? And, what does the doc. contain about "AshitaHaru"? If you don't mind, can you list the content? Ryoga (talk) 16:12, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- Lol. I added trans_title's to the refs that seemed to need it. Is that what you wanted me to do? --Prosperosity (talk) 11:43, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I didn't get what you meant :( I couldn't hold it in, the excitement of completing the article lol. That's why I sound weird in the above comment :D Ryoga (talk) 11:01, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
- You mean like this? --Prosperosity (talk) 09:15, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
(→) Yep :) And no, I really meant it. An absolute idiot when it comes to Japanese language, like me, could've never accomplished a B-grade article (and that too, thanks to you!) about a song in Japanese if it wasn't for someone very helpful as you [sempai] :) And wow, both of them look so good already! Some more information and a rearranging and they'll look awesome! And yes, please do let me know if you need any help. I look forward to work with you again. Ryoga (talk) 11:16, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
Nicki Minaj videography
Hi, I am currently in the nomination process of getting Nicki Minaj videography up to featured list status. I was wondering whether you could take a look and possibly leave your thoughts/opposition/support for the nomination and leave any suggestions you may have to improve it. Thanks :) Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Nicki Minaj videography/archive1 KaneZolanski (talk) 19:34, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll add some comments when the other comments sections are resolved (I've put the page on watch). --Prosperosity (talk) 00:34, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Some bubble tea for you!
Hey congrats on getting Kumi Koda's discography to FL! :) that's awesome AngusWOOF (talk) 04:11, 3 June 2014 (UTC) |
- Thanks, and thanks for commenting on the process too! --Prosperosity (talk) 06:32, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
A pie for you!
I hope you like it :D Ryoga (talk) 03:26, 4 June 2014 (UTC) |
- One more thing. That video I linked to the previous day, does it contain any information on Matsu's record deal (with BMG)? Does she say anything on that? How she signed, or who spotted her? Ryoga (talk) 03:28, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- She implied it was set up by the director of Last Vacation, but I can watch it again if I misheard anything. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Can you, please? I think "AshitaHaru" and "Sora no Kagami" both would benefit from a Background section. I think I have rest of the things, including her family of actors, her passion, auditions, piano etc. covered. The record deal is the only thing left. Ryoga (talk) 03:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- デビューのきっかけは最初に出た連続ドラマ「ロングバケーション」と言う作品の打ち上げでカラオケを歌う(まあ、何人か)、その時のディレクターが「歌わない?」みたい。非常に!なんか信用できない感じの軽さで。声掛けられて、もちろんそう言われると警戒しますよね。「大丈夫かな?」と思いました、でも歌すごい好きだったんですね、本当に。歌うことも好きだった。どんな風に曲が完成レコーディングしていこんだろうとか。でも最初は断ったんですね。あの、「ヤ」、「いやです」って言うか「いいです」って言うか「私はいいです」って。やっぱその先中途半端にしてしまった。これ以上ピアノに加えて中途半端にしてしまった。今度仕事だしだと思って。
- なんですけど、デビュー当時の{{}}に会った時に、ま、本当に{{}}にやったらよさそうだから「やらない?」って言うような誘ってくれたんですね。それが大きかったですかね。で「こういうチャンスはまあ、なかなかない、誰もが与えられる物ではないし、じゃ挑戦してみよう」。だから本当に、歌を出すと言うことよりも音楽をやると言うか…音楽に関わるぞって言う覚悟って言うか…なんかそ言う気持ちで。
- I can't quite hear the {{}} bits, and then it starts to show the LA filming, she's talking about getting letters from her staff congratulating her on her 10 year debut, and she's all OMG it's been 10 years-kinda things, so nothing particularly useful. There's nothing really more than what I said already, everyone was singing at the 'we finished yay!' party for Long Vacation, and everyone was singing karaoke. The director for LV said, "Oh, why don't you give singing a go?" but she felt a bit taken back, since she didn't know if he was being serious or just saying it. At first, she said she wouldn't. She decided she would when she considered that it wasn't an offer that just anyone gets, so she'd give it a go.
- I think there might actually be a couple of important details in the デビュー当時の{{}}に会った時に、ま、本当に{{}}にやったらよさそうだから「やらない?」 bit, so maybe ask a native speaker if you know any! I might've misheard/misinterpreted a couple things as well. I tried google searching for similar texts on her debut, but no luck! --Prosperosity (talk) 05:15, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Arigato! Native speaker?? I'm afraid I don't know anyone here. Do you know someone who can help me? Ryoga (talk) 05:18, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Do you have a livejournal account you could dust off? You could ask at linguaphiles or maybe Japanese, there are a couple people there that would be helpful. I don't wanna ask my friends as I'm about to do a big Japanese assessment and I'm probably about to barrage them with questions already, haha. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:30, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, isn't there a native speaker template Wikipedia users stick on their profiles sometimes, too? --Prosperosity (talk) 05:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- I will try both livejournal and Wikipedia lol :D Good luck with your assessment (are you in university?). New article: Love Love Love/Arashi ga Kuru. Ryoga (talk) 05:51, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Have fun with the covers of that song! Everyone and their Grandma has done one (though not as bad as My Way or something). Yeah, I went back at the start of the year to do a post-grad translation course. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Lmao, I just realised that! I knew it was very popular (especially around Valentine's day), but there's a lot of covers! I'm not going to concentrate on that article now. I've caused you enough trouble already, so I'm going to do a manga article, which does not require any translation! :D Thanks for everything, I hope I can consult you if I'm stuck somewhere. Ryoga (talk) 06:07, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Have fun with the covers of that song! Everyone and their Grandma has done one (though not as bad as My Way or something). Yeah, I went back at the start of the year to do a post-grad translation course. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- I will try both livejournal and Wikipedia lol :D Good luck with your assessment (are you in university?). New article: Love Love Love/Arashi ga Kuru. Ryoga (talk) 05:51, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Arigato! Native speaker?? I'm afraid I don't know anyone here. Do you know someone who can help me? Ryoga (talk) 05:18, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Can you, please? I think "AshitaHaru" and "Sora no Kagami" both would benefit from a Background section. I think I have rest of the things, including her family of actors, her passion, auditions, piano etc. covered. The record deal is the only thing left. Ryoga (talk) 03:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- She implied it was set up by the director of Last Vacation, but I can watch it again if I misheard anything. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
OT: The sales gap between #1 and #2 :O Ryoga (talk) 11:49, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- That's the best non-Arashi/AKB first day I can think of in a while! --Prosperosity (talk) 11:54, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah! It's lower than Feel's and Uncontrolled's, but certainly good for a compilation album. Did you hear the new versions of "Can You Celebrate" and "Sweet 19 Blues"? The former is very good, but the latter is over-processed. The loss of fragility in her voice makes it sound as if she's got no emotions. Ryoga (talk) 12:12, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- I liked the new arrangement of CYC, but the mixing was a little bad and I could barely hear Namie over the violin. I haven't heard the CD version though, it might be different. I heard S19B too, but I have no connection to that song! I never listen to it and it's not in my playlist, so it just sounded the same as before, haha. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I forgot about that! The violin is a bit loud lol. And :O :O S19B is [one of] my favorite Namie songs. It takes me back to my teenage days. Sigh. The old version is far better. Even my sister who doesn't like Namie says the new version is below average. Ryoga (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Would Arama They Didn't be of any help for reviews from 1997? I've asked people of japanese to help and also jap_magazines. Any other communities (outside Livejournal) that you know of? Ryoga (talk) 12:53, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Finding magazines from back then is awful! They barely have any traces on the internet left. I have a pile I need for Sheena's page, but I'd need to go to second hand stores in Japan or something to find the things in the first place. Probably not Arama, since I don't think you can make request posts. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- A few of Namie's magazine articles are available on one of her fansites :@ Actually, I tracked down a few Takako fansites from back in the 1990s and sent emails to the owners. Guess what? The mails never got delivered lol. How lucky I am. Atleast you have friends or can go to Japan to get Sheena's magazine articles. But me, lol. Ryoga (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm just gonna wait until I live there next time, otherwise it's a big hassle! There are some sites with back issues of magazines, but they only deliver within Japan. Apparently they don't like money if it's from overseas, or something. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:19, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah lol. I've seen such sites too, it's bad. I mean, they should be happy that people outside Japan want to buy from them too :D Anyway, I stick to nagging others since I can't read Japanese, so they won't mess with me haha :P Ryoga (talk) 13:26, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, fair enough! --Prosperosity (talk) 02:18, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah lol. I've seen such sites too, it's bad. I mean, they should be happy that people outside Japan want to buy from them too :D Anyway, I stick to nagging others since I can't read Japanese, so they won't mess with me haha :P Ryoga (talk) 13:26, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm just gonna wait until I live there next time, otherwise it's a big hassle! There are some sites with back issues of magazines, but they only deliver within Japan. Apparently they don't like money if it's from overseas, or something. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:19, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- A few of Namie's magazine articles are available on one of her fansites :@ Actually, I tracked down a few Takako fansites from back in the 1990s and sent emails to the owners. Guess what? The mails never got delivered lol. How lucky I am. Atleast you have friends or can go to Japan to get Sheena's magazine articles. But me, lol. Ryoga (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Finding magazines from back then is awful! They barely have any traces on the internet left. I have a pile I need for Sheena's page, but I'd need to go to second hand stores in Japan or something to find the things in the first place. Probably not Arama, since I don't think you can make request posts. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- I liked the new arrangement of CYC, but the mixing was a little bad and I could barely hear Namie over the violin. I haven't heard the CD version though, it might be different. I heard S19B too, but I have no connection to that song! I never listen to it and it's not in my playlist, so it just sounded the same as before, haha. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah! It's lower than Feel's and Uncontrolled's, but certainly good for a compilation album. Did you hear the new versions of "Can You Celebrate" and "Sweet 19 Blues"? The former is very good, but the latter is over-processed. The loss of fragility in her voice makes it sound as if she's got no emotions. Ryoga (talk) 12:12, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
No luck..
No one responded on Livejournal. Sigh. I've never been so desperate to find sources lol. I love that song so much. Would 2chan be of help? I know it's in Japanese, but still.. I find it hard to believe that even Japanese Wikipedians don't respond lol. Can you do me a favor? Can you post a thread on ja.wiki too, asking for any details regarding the song from 1997 like magazine scans and newspaper articles? Ryoga (talk) 12:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Nobody ever responds on the Japanese wiki! If you're still looking for sources in a couple years' time when I'm in Japan again, I'll go out looking for them, lol. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:05, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Lol, okay :D I'll be sure to remind you :P Any forums you know of, where old news are shared? I wish there was some good Matsu fansite (she was a popular actor at that time, wasn't she?). I'm going to create a Background section with the amount of information I have. Please do help me. I have another favor to ask of you. In the reception section, I've noted that AShitaHaru is popular during spring. Can you find one or two more sources, and expand on that thing? At the moment it's very short and may be challenged (since it's not so significant). Thanks! Ryoga (talk) 13:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Lesseeee.....The Idolmaster one was a series of Spring covers, and it was covered on this, Cafe de Nagareru Sweet Jazz 20 the Best Sakura Songs, it was on this1 compilation album 「春」をテーマにCMでも話題になった...話題曲のカバーを収録!! (covers of spring themed songs famous from CMs) and was on this spring compilation album. . You could also use the radio play data! It's annually charted on Billboard airplay/adult alternative airplay since 2010 in March/April.
- 2010 #56 adult airplay http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=adult_airplay&year=2010&month=03&day=08
- 2011 #88 airplay http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_airplay&year=2011&month=03&day=14 #48 adult airplay http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail/?a=adult_airplay&year=2010&month=02&day=01
- 2012 #65 hot 100 http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=hot100&year=2012&month=04&day=02 #29 airplay http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail/?a=adult_airplay&year=2012&month=03&day=12 #27 adult airplay http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=adult_airplay&year=2012&month=04&day=2
- 2013: (#91 airplay) http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_airplay&year=2013&month=03&day=11, #74 adult airplay http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=adult_airplay&year=2013&month=02&day=11
- 2014: (#72 airplay) http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_airplay&year=2014&month=03&day=24, #48 adult airplay http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=adult_airplay&year=2014&month=03&day=17
- How's that? --Prosperosity (talk) 13:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, that's more than enough! I guess it's safe to say the song debuts on charts on airplay chart. Thanks, as always. What is a CM btw? Campaign music? Speaking of which, what exactly is NTT's New Exciting life thing lol? Ryoga (talk) 14:59, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Commercials, like TV ads! No idea, some sort of cellphoney thing, probably. --Prosperosity (talk) 02:58, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Thanks! Ryoga (talk) 03:37, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Commercials, like TV ads! No idea, some sort of cellphoney thing, probably. --Prosperosity (talk) 02:58, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, that's more than enough! I guess it's safe to say the song debuts on charts on airplay chart. Thanks, as always. What is a CM btw? Campaign music? Speaking of which, what exactly is NTT's New Exciting life thing lol? Ryoga (talk) 14:59, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Lol, okay :D I'll be sure to remind you :P Any forums you know of, where old news are shared? I wish there was some good Matsu fansite (she was a popular actor at that time, wasn't she?). I'm going to create a Background section with the amount of information I have. Please do help me. I have another favor to ask of you. In the reception section, I've noted that AShitaHaru is popular during spring. Can you find one or two more sources, and expand on that thing? At the moment it's very short and may be challenged (since it's not so significant). Thanks! Ryoga (talk) 13:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
Found a much better source! [20] Translation help, please :) Ryoga (talk) 05:34, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- EDIT: Another one. Can you translate them both, if you don't mind. Btw, in that NHK vid, she must've been talking about Kozo Nagayama, Long Vacation's producer? Ryoga (talk) 05:38, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- nws438.html 松たか子帰国 Takako Matsu returns to Japan (January 16, 1997)
- -finished recording, returned to Japan on the 15th (on a JAL plane, lol)
- -produced by Kozo Nagayama, who also produced LV.
- -Daisuke (who wrote the music for AHgK) was the musical director for LV, too.
- nws421.html 松たか子が歌手デビュー Takako Matsu makes her musical debut (January 9, 1997)
- -went to LA on the 5th (stayed in Santa Monica)
- -album planned for a late March release initially (they might have gotten confused what was being released though)
- Yup! She was talking about Nagayama. --Prosperosity (talk) 06:08, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! What's JAL? Japan Airlines lol? Does it have any comments by Matsu? Like, did she like singing or not, comments by Hinata/Sakamoto/Nagayama? I could really use them. Ryoga (talk) 06:12, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- Only comments about Matsuda Seiko's shock marriage, nothing about herself! --Prosperosity (talk) 06:14, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- I see, thanks. I can use this information for Sora no Kagami too. Wow, I never expected to find such information on the song! Ryoga (talk) 06:32, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- Only comments about Matsuda Seiko's shock marriage, nothing about herself! --Prosperosity (talk) 06:14, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! What's JAL? Japan Airlines lol? Does it have any comments by Matsu? Like, did she like singing or not, comments by Hinata/Sakamoto/Nagayama? I could really use them. Ryoga (talk) 06:12, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
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Hey, I am back..
After taking a break for one day. My classes have started again, so I won't be able to dedicate much time to online activities lol. Well, remember that NHK thingy on Matsu you said you couldn't hear properly? Here's the text. Can you tell me what that means? The rest is here. Btw, if you are working on Namie discography, let me know if you need help. I have always wanted to clean that up. Ryoga (talk) 12:32, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- You mean like what I've just done? Haha. I'm about to go through the mess which is G-Music for the DVD positions. You could help sourcing some of the videos and stuff if you'd like!
- It's helpful, but we already know the info thanks to the zakzak sources! --Prosperosity (talk) 12:55, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, you beat me to it! No fair haha :P Sure, I can help.
- Oh, you mean she just talks about traveling to Los Angeles? Can you explain? Ryoga (talk) 12:58, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Regarding her videos, isn't a videography page a better option since she has released a lot of videos/video albums? Ryoga (talk) 13:03, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Probably! She does have a shit-ton, and she did some acting roles from memory, too. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:05, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yep. There was this film which featured her song too.. Forgot its name lol. Hey, what about Matsu's NHK documentary? Is it just about traveling to LA? There was this thing called Lyric Town in it.. What is it? Ryoga (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Travelling to LA, talking about whooooa it's been 10 years! etc. I'm not sure which point you mean, what time is it? --Prosperosity (talk) 13:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Between 7:48 and 8:48. Am I getting annoying? ^__^" Ryoga (talk) 13:18, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- I think that word is "director"! デビュー当時のディレクター debyuu touji no direkutaa --Prosperosity (talk) 13:25, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- デビュー当時のディレクターの人に会ったときですとか.. So she means the director suggested she try singing. Hmm.. Ryoga (talk) 13:29, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yup! She talks about that in the 'utawanai?' bit. ---Prosperosity (talk) 13:32, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- デビュー当時のディレクターの人に会ったときですとか.. So she means the director suggested she try singing. Hmm.. Ryoga (talk) 13:29, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- I think that word is "director"! デビュー当時のディレクター debyuu touji no direkutaa --Prosperosity (talk) 13:25, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Between 7:48 and 8:48. Am I getting annoying? ^__^" Ryoga (talk) 13:18, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Travelling to LA, talking about whooooa it's been 10 years! etc. I'm not sure which point you mean, what time is it? --Prosperosity (talk) 13:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yep. There was this film which featured her song too.. Forgot its name lol. Hey, what about Matsu's NHK documentary? Is it just about traveling to LA? There was this thing called Lyric Town in it.. What is it? Ryoga (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Probably! She does have a shit-ton, and she did some acting roles from memory, too. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:05, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Regarding her videos, isn't a videography page a better option since she has released a lot of videos/video albums? Ryoga (talk) 13:03, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
(→) Thanks Prosperosity-sama :P I don't want to waste your time again. Please give me some time, I'll fix Namie's videos. Ryoga (talk) 13:35, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- You have school and stuff! Feel free to take your time. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:37, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, should we add notes to songs that belong to double/triple singles? Ryoga (talk) 11:18, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- They're already self-evident by the fact that their Oricon position spans two columns, aren't they? Technically on Wikipedia we shouldn't really have articles on double A-side singles anyway, we should have articles for all the separate songs. --Prosperosity (talk) 20:56, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- Now that I have taken a look at it closely, yeah, you're right. As for the double A-sides, I have no issues with creating articles for all songs that belong to them, but the sources... how can we find them? Ryoga (talk) 10:56, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- If someone reviewed the single, they'll probably talk about both/all three songs, right? And they have different song structures with different PVs and different people covering them! I was lazy on Irohanihoheto/Kodoku no Akatsuki since it is a little harder to find sources for the second one, but I could totally see Wild/Dr. or Break It/Get Myself Back being two! --Prosperosity (talk) 11:32, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- It's true. Plus, we're lucky that Namie's fansites upload magazine scans :D Btw, I just learned that Utada Hikaru got married! Wish she'd release an album soon lol. Ryoga (talk) 11:38, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- She shouldn't be too far away from something new! She did that radio show for a couple months to test the water, or something like that. Give her a year maybe! --Prosperosity (talk) 13:29, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oh yeah. To test whether the public still cares for her lol. I really like Distance (it's my favorite album of hers). Ryoga (talk) 15:49, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- She shouldn't be too far away from something new! She did that radio show for a couple months to test the water, or something like that. Give her a year maybe! --Prosperosity (talk) 13:29, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- It's true. Plus, we're lucky that Namie's fansites upload magazine scans :D Btw, I just learned that Utada Hikaru got married! Wish she'd release an album soon lol. Ryoga (talk) 11:38, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- If someone reviewed the single, they'll probably talk about both/all three songs, right? And they have different song structures with different PVs and different people covering them! I was lazy on Irohanihoheto/Kodoku no Akatsuki since it is a little harder to find sources for the second one, but I could totally see Wild/Dr. or Break It/Get Myself Back being two! --Prosperosity (talk) 11:32, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- Now that I have taken a look at it closely, yeah, you're right. As for the double A-sides, I have no issues with creating articles for all songs that belong to them, but the sources... how can we find them? Ryoga (talk) 10:56, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
- They're already self-evident by the fact that their Oricon position spans two columns, aren't they? Technically on Wikipedia we shouldn't really have articles on double A-side singles anyway, we should have articles for all the separate songs. --Prosperosity (talk) 20:56, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, should we add notes to songs that belong to double/triple singles? Ryoga (talk) 11:18, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
Music videos done! I removed Namie Amuro World (I have no idea what it is about, same goes for DJ Groove too), "Black Out" PV (the Checkmate article says it's unaired, but I did find it on JpopSukiTV; the director of the PV is some Division.. a Paris team of directors) and also the section on alternative live versions of the PV. And oh, I couldn't find sources for "Stop the Music" and "Taiyo no Season". Please check the section (videos) and tell me if it's okay or not, if I'm missing something et cetera. Edit: I think "Santa Maria" is very well-written. I couldn't find anything on its structure though, there's no sheet music available. Did he perform the song later, live? Ryoga (talk) 13:20, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yay! Yeah, Amuro World should at least need a source. Black Out didn't air 'cause of the earthquake, but Verbal had some blog posts about it at the time, so it should be sourcable.
- Thanks! Nope, he's never performed live, his first live'll be in like a month or so. --Prosperosity (talk) 13:16, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, we can add a note stating it wasn't aired or something, right?
- Oh, I see. Maybe we can add that information (I'm sure Natalie has information on it).
- Btw, I tracked down a few magazines which features Matsu. Of course, they're all from 1997. Wish I could buy them all :D [21][22][23][24][25][26][27]. I gotta say, all these websites have too much text in Japanese. If only there were some English text. Can you tell me what these mags are all about, the contents I mean. Hope you don't mind. Ryoga (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- No idea! Generally about whatever she's released/starring in at the time I presume, but with the text so small that's all I can guess! lol --Prosperosity (talk) 14:13, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry about that! :) Thanks for helping out, like always. Ryoga (talk) 16:12, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- No idea! Generally about whatever she's released/starring in at the time I presume, but with the text so small that's all I can guess! lol --Prosperosity (talk) 14:13, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Namie's discography
Hey, I just wanted to ask about the updates to the discography page, wouldn't it be better if the first day/week sales were available, so that people can see how a single started off, and in some cases compare it to other singles? I ask because I always used to do this using the wikipedia page and thought maybe other people also did it, also I noticed that this was used on other pages like AKB48 and Morning Musume, so I thought it was normal. Also I added the asterisks and the note at the bottom of the 2010's singles table in the 'Contrail' and 'Damage' sales columns, because I thought they looked weird being empty like that and some people who don't know about her digital singles might wonder why there aren't any sales for those releases. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MoMoCHu5360 (talk • contribs) 23:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Well the daily figures were unsourced anyway, and I don't think there's any possible source for a lot of them! The data are quite trivial, especially when you think about comparing them to other countries' weekly charts. Oricon doesn't collate its daily, monthly or yearly (under the top 100) figures on its subscription website, so we can't use a general Oricon database subscription either.
- Good idea! I footnoted them so we wouldn't need asterisks. --Prosperosity (talk) 01:08, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
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Colours
Listened to the samples on iTunes.. It's a dance album, but not all the songs are good. The thing that really irritates me is her broken voice. What once used to be sweet and pleasant is now too hoarse (?). "What Is Forever Love" sounds okay and so does "Pray" (the production is outdated, kinda. Don't you think?). There's not even one song like "Voyage" and "Love ~Destiny~". Sigh. Ryoga (talk) 11:31, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Ehh, she records so much that it's really obvious when her voice started getting a bit crappy. I dunno what the hell Pray and Hello New Me are even doing on the album, haha.
- I just had an idea! Ari no Mama de was so successful that we could probably draft a section and put it in the Let It Go article when it's all perfect. Apparently it's topped Recochoku for 12 weeks so far! --Prosperosity (talk) 12:32, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
- Yep, I think it started to get bad around 2008, when Guilty was released. Hello New Me is boring. Same goes for "Angel". I have no idea why Darkchild crafted something like that for Ayu. "Time Limit" is such a nice song.
- Yeah, of course we can. I saw that it topped the chart for a record 12 weeks. It also won Recochoku awards, I read. Ryoga (talk) 15:43, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
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"AshitaHaru"
It has been copyedited, the only thing left (I guess) is the translated titles. Can you add them for me please? Ryoga (talk) 14:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
- Done! --Prosperosity (talk) 08:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Ryoga (talk) 11:38, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- The article's been nominated for a GA. I have added your name to the nominators too :) Ryoga (talk) 14:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Ooooh! --Prosperosity (talk) 13:14, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- The article's been nominated for a GA. I have added your name to the nominators too :) Ryoga (talk) 14:06, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. Ryoga (talk) 11:38, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
Ukiyo-e
Hey, sorry it took me a long time to get around to updating the ukiyo-e article with the stuff from Suwa's book. Aside from getting caught up with other things, I was having trouble wrapping my head around some of the stuff, in particular about Chinese perspective. At first I assumed 平行遠近法 meant isometric perspective, but when I looked into it, it appeared there was more to it than that. I've learned some interesting things about Chinese perspective, but I'm not sure I've expressed it well in the ukiyo-e article. I've also added stuff about what I've decided to translate as "serpentine posture". Would you mind taking a peek at what I've added and give me some feedback? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 02:31, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, this is the thing I had to hunt around to confirm, because I couldn't find a translation of 平行遠近法 as "isometric perspective" anywhere. It appears that Chinese paintings weren't strictly isometric, but were isometric for individual objects (buildings, tables, etc) in the composition. So an individual building in a city scene would have its lines parallel to each within the building, but other buildings would have their own sets of parallel lines. This appears to be what 平行遠近法 refers to. Here's a pdf that talks about it. It would be nice if there were a Wikipedia article on this kind of thing—maybe someday I'll even make one. What did you think of what I wrote about the women's acrobatic postures? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 21:08, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
- I must have fudged copying & pasting the link. I don't have my laptop with me, so I'll have to hunt the link down again tomorrow. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:05, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Here's the file. Ryoga (talk) 12:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the WP:JAGUAR]! --Prosperosity (talk) 13:14, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Hrrrm, I think the Chinese perspective in the text is what's illustrated in "Han Xi-zai Gives a Banquet". --Prosperosity (talk) 13:14, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, it would apply to any content—when I was talking about buildings in a city I didn't have in mind the examples at the end of the PDF. But, yes, I believe 平行遠近法 refers to the kind of thing happening in "Han Xi-zai Gives a Banquet" (thus "a homogeny of parallel lines"—I don't know how else to phrase it without turning it into a paragraph-long lecture—a bit out of scope for the article). The perspective article should definitely be expanded to include this kind of stuff. What's described in it is only geometrical perspective. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 03:21, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Here's the file. Ryoga (talk) 12:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- I must have fudged copying & pasting the link. I don't have my laptop with me, so I'll have to hunt the link down again tomorrow. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:05, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
Ayumi Hamasaki claim sales records
Hi. I've been noticed that you've been reverted my edit regarding with Hamasaki's claim sales (80 million records)
I really wanted you to know that Hamasaki certification sales has been reach more than 60 million, therefore her 50m-claim sales has been old and no longer reliable to use.
Please see this list List of best-selling music artists, me and another editors handle that list and Hamasaki should be stand there with at least 75m-records claim because she deserved it
So, if you're the one who take care Hamasaki's page, please look and update her claim records at least at 75m-records claim. thanks Politsi (talk) 16:14, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Colours again
Poor Ayu.. Not even the top 3 this time... Abysmal sales, I presume. Do you have any updates on the sales? And oh, "What Is Forever Love" has grown on me. Maybe because it's not noisy and does not like a throwaway. Ryoga (talk) 12:59, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Nope! I can only tell you what it sold less than, since daily sales are only the top three. --Prosperosity (talk) 15:01, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- It was #5 for 5 days (I think), 6, and now 8. So, it should debut at around #5 or #7.. If it debuts at #7, poor Ayu (again).. Her first studio album not to debut in the top 5. Ryoga (talk) 12:58, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Re: J Streaming
Ouch. Guess the Japanese record companies are not ready to think in a different way. Streaming is a great way for new artists to gain popularity. Given that sales have become so low in Japan, they need to do something and fast! Ryoga (talk) 15:23, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- Btw, do you there is any chance that it might work out? Ryoga (talk) 15:35, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, iTunes took until 2010/the arrival of smartphones to get popular, so even if they do start up I don't think so initially! Maybe they'll be a Western music only service + a few other small companies, or something. --Prosperosity (talk) 07:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- The iTunes sales are very low too, from what I've heard. I remember you saying something about rental CDs? There's no such medium in the US, maybe that's why the sales are all not that bad. And I guess you're right about the streaming being Western music only. They need to test the waters before they implement it :) Ryoga (talk) 12:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- They're only comparatively low to other countries' proportions! Taken by themselves and Japan iTunes sales are probably bigger than some national markets. Plus Chaku-uta and chaku-uta full suddenly took a dive in 2011-ish, in the same period when iTunes/PC downloads were growing, making them about on par now. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- According to a tracking website, the number 1 song on iTunes sells an average of 25,000 copies a week, which is low.. isn't it? You're right about Chaku-Uta. It's certainly something. Ryoga (talk) 11:17, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- RIAJ before they stopped separating it counted 26 songs released in 2013 that sold over 100,000 copies based on PC downloads only (so that includes Amazon download and stuff, but it's probably like 80-90% iTunes), so it's not so bad! At the same time physical had like 80, but still! ---Prosperosity (talk) 12:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- In their 2013 report they tally 91,634,000 single song downloads on iTunes/PC download/smartphone services. BPI lists 189,000,000 for the UK for 2012, in a market where almost everyone buys digitally. --Prosperosity (talk) 12:18, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- I see.. Individual sales are never released.. And wow, that figure! It's huge! Ryoga (talk) 13:19, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- According to a tracking website, the number 1 song on iTunes sells an average of 25,000 copies a week, which is low.. isn't it? You're right about Chaku-Uta. It's certainly something. Ryoga (talk) 11:17, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- They're only comparatively low to other countries' proportions! Taken by themselves and Japan iTunes sales are probably bigger than some national markets. Plus Chaku-uta and chaku-uta full suddenly took a dive in 2011-ish, in the same period when iTunes/PC downloads were growing, making them about on par now. --Prosperosity (talk) 03:21, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
- The iTunes sales are very low too, from what I've heard. I remember you saying something about rental CDs? There's no such medium in the US, maybe that's why the sales are all not that bad. And I guess you're right about the streaming being Western music only. They need to test the waters before they implement it :) Ryoga (talk) 12:45, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, iTunes took until 2010/the arrival of smartphones to get popular, so even if they do start up I don't think so initially! Maybe they'll be a Western music only service + a few other small companies, or something. --Prosperosity (talk) 07:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
English CAPs in Japanese romaji
Hi thanks for your edits, you left a summary "Undid revision 617461943 by In ictu oculi (talk) All references in Japanese consistently style the title in this manner)" Yes they do. But do English references in English texts in English sources? That's the issue. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:38, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
- Indeed they do, but that the title is consistently stylised in this way in Japanese is notable enough to talk about in the article. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:13, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
"AshitaHaru" 2
Hey! I'm taking a long wikibreak so, would you be able to take care of "AshitaHaru"'s GA review? Ryoga (talk) 03:41, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- Okay! I'm not entirely sure what to do with it, since I've never looked over a GA process before. I can see it's getting reviewed, but I can't see the reviews. I'm not sure if the fact that I listed Angela Aki discography for FL counts against me actively going through the process, either. --Prosperosity (talk) 09:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- FLC and GAN are completely different actually. A single user reviews a GAN whereas multiple users comment on an FLC. Also, you can nominate as much articles as you want for a GA, as long as they meet the criteria. It's not as strict as FLC too, btw :) Also, "AshitaHaru" has not yet been reviewed. When it is, the user who is reviewing it will notify you ;) Ryoga (talk) 10:36, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
Fukuyama
Hey there. Hope you're doing well. I found some interesting information on his album Zankyou, but the reviews on the album.. none are available! :( Can you help me find a few (except CD Journal lol). I'm guessing print magazines have reviews on it.. Ryoga (talk) 05:21, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- Here's one for Tokyo ni mo Atta n da/Muteki no Kimi and the original version of Saiai. From listenmusic, Sou and Keshin, and from What's In? Sou and Tokyo ni mo. The Play Asia one should be an actual review from What's In? magazine and not just a description, but I have no direct proof! --Prosperosity (talk) 08:10, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! I found an AllMusic review too, so I've got 2 now lol. Ryoga (talk) 04:09, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Hi, Prosperosity. Sorry for bothering you, but I saw your conversations with Ryoga Godai, and wanted to ask you a little favor. I'm having trouble to get a proper romanization for Akagi ep 12 "偶機の魔法"; I know it is "... no Mahō", and that the possible meaning of it is "Coincidence" (as Crunchyroll translated it as "The Magic of Coincidence"). Also, in the series itself there is no furigana so I'm not sure how to handle it. Could you help me with this if you have free time? Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 05:14, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'd have to go with Gūki no Mahō. It sounds like some sort of truncation of gūzen (偶然) and kikai/ki'un (機会/機運), but the 機 could mean something mechanical depending on the context. I've never seen Akagi, so I'm not sure! Gūki would be the standard on-yomi reading, and nobody on the internet seems to list anything but 'gūki', so I'm almost certain it's that! --Prosperosity (talk) 05:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, and you might wanna double-check 裏切りの絶一門. Sometimes mah-jong players in Japan call the terms by their approximated Chinese names (so 絶一門 (jué yīmén) on the JA wiki is rendered tsēīmen and chēīmen in katakana). That the English title has the words like that it makes me wonder a little! You'd have to check the episode to see if anyone uses the term, though. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:35, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'll stick with "Gūki no Mahō" and yeah they indeed use "tsēīmen" (and I should have noticed because of the "Tse Ii Men"~embarassed). Thank you very much!! (you've just killed two birds with one shot!). Regards, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 05:51, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Haha, no problem! --Prosperosity (talk) 06:38, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, and double-check how they say 逢魔が時 too. I checked the JASRAC database just in case there were songs with this name, and even though Ōmagatoki was the most popular, there were different readings like Ōmagadoki, Aimagadoki or even Hōmagatoki that came up (lots of them also had the problem of 逢魔 being ambiguously おおま or おうま, but we're lucky since they both come out as ō in romaji, lol). --Prosperosity (talk) 07:33, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, more than what I asked for... so nice. :) Thank you, again! (I guess I should return to see shōnen after this because they have something a really love—furigana haha) Gabriel Yuji (talk) 17:02, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'll stick with "Gūki no Mahō" and yeah they indeed use "tsēīmen" (and I should have noticed because of the "Tse Ii Men"~embarassed). Thank you very much!! (you've just killed two birds with one shot!). Regards, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 05:51, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Tadaima
Hehe, I hope my usage is correct. Senpai, can you help me again? I found some information on Ai no Tobira (as for the Fukuyama album, I'm still waiting for some magazine articles. I have asked someone, hope they send me the scans). Can you help me by translating them? I'll do the text translation using Google, but there's a written message by Satoshi Takebe which cannot be translated by Google.. so, please do help :) Btw, how have you been? Ryoga (talk) 05:04, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Sure, send them my way! I've been super crazy busy with uni, meaning I've spent lots and lots of time here instead, even attempting this thing! --Prosperosity (talk) 05:15, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! I already saw that :P Please do let me know if you need help.
- This is the link. It's some kind of Q&A with Satoshi Takebe. Ryoga (talk) 11:20, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Btw, what is this "Tte yuu" that appears in sentences when I translate them lol? Ryoga (talk) 11:27, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Takebe doesn't say anything interesting, just a 'thank you Michiko from Miyagi' kind of response, where he says he wants to record with Matsu again soon and they'll release something in September 1999 probably. って言う means a lot of things, depending on the context, but it usually means "~that kind of thing" (like....say..."「宮城県のミチコ、ありがとうね」って言うような答え" [a 'thank you Michiko from Miyagi'-kind of response]). ってゆう is a funky colloquial way of saying it! --Prosperosity (talk) 11:55, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. What about this, this (are those chords I see?), this, and this.
- It disrupts the translation :D I will try to create sentences out of it, please do help me polish them. Ryoga (talk) 12:05, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- If you replace the ゆう with a 言う manually it might make more sense!
- takebe_10.html 'I'm proud of Matsu's albums too, so please listen!'
- takebe_06.html 'It's not called Sakura Hirari, it's Sakura Fuwari!' + chords he'd used for Love Love.
- takebe_05.html 'Matsu's next release will be in October/drama soundtrack/etcetc' 普段僕は春にかこまれて仕事しているので家では割と静かな物とかクラ(シック?)とか聞くかなー?でも仕事上音楽はどんなジャンルの物でも聞きます。 Usually I'm surrounded by spring when I'm working, so at home I listen to quieter things and (classical? something), maybe those kinds of things. But I listen to any genre when I'm working. (I dunno how useful that is, maybe if you're making his page)
- takebe_03.html He's very proud of writing Gomen ne. --Prosperosity (talk) 07:56, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- Guess they aren't as useful as I'd expected they'd be... Thanks anyway senpai :) I'll try replacing the yuu with 言う. Ryoga (talk) 11:51, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
Utada!
You're working on her discography! That's awesome! Will you help me out with Mai Kuraki discography and Masaharu Fukuyama discography too? I really want to fix that Mai Kuraki discog, I wonder if her works charted in Taiwain. Ryoga (talk) 11:59, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Extremely! Here's the list I made:
Kuraki Mai 倉木麻衣
2005 week 33
- 13
- 1jp Fuse of Love
2006 week 31
- 13
- 2jp Diamond Wave
2006 week 50
- 20jp Shiroi Yuki
2007 week 52
- 12
- 1jp One Life
2008 week 27
- 15
- 3jp Ichibyougoto
2008 week 47
- 18
- 2jp 24 Xmas
2009 week 3
- 12
- 1jp touch me
2009 week 13
- 20
- 6jp Puzzle
2009 week 23
- 3jp Beautiful
2009 week 37
- 5jp All My Love
2010 week 11
- 15 Drive Me Crazy
- 7JP
2010 week 35
- 13
- 4JP Summer Time Gone
2010 week 47
- 11
- 3JP Future Kiss
2011 week 12
- 14
- 3JP 1000萬次的吻
2011 week 44
- 14
- 3JP Your Best Friend
2012 week 2
- 2JP Over the Rainbow
2012 week 33
- 7JP Koi ni Koishite
2013 week 6
- 3JP Try Again
--Prosperosity (talk) 12:17, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks! Btw, an OT question. Is the anime, OreImo (the indecent and immoral theme aside) popular in Japan? Ryoga (talk) 13:57, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- No idea! I'm not really an anime person. It's also been a year since I've been living there! lol. Generally unless something was as big as One Piece, Gundam or Yokai Watch I didn't notice anything. I didn't even see Shingeki things around and that was crazily popular then, so who knows! --Prosperosity (talk) 02:51, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, really? I never expected Yokai Watch to be popular.. Gundam and One Piece, I could guess. Thanks anyway. Ryoga (talk) 12:23, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- Here's something that you may find helpful (IFPI HK certs, Utada's there too!) Ryoga (talk) 13:25, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, I forgot about those. --Prosperosity (talk) 01:11, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Oh wait, that's right. Those are the top selling albums of the the year, but these are the certs. They set the thresholds ridiculously high and never changed them from the '90s, so nothing got certified between 2003 and 2006. --Prosperosity (talk) 01:40, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- They are? I thought they were list of certified albums, sorry for that! Ryoga (talk) 02:58, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Here's something that you may find helpful (IFPI HK certs, Utada's there too!) Ryoga (talk) 13:25, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, really? I never expected Yokai Watch to be popular.. Gundam and One Piece, I could guess. Thanks anyway. Ryoga (talk) 12:23, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
- No idea! I'm not really an anime person. It's also been a year since I've been living there! lol. Generally unless something was as big as One Piece, Gundam or Yokai Watch I didn't notice anything. I didn't even see Shingeki things around and that was crazily popular then, so who knows! --Prosperosity (talk) 02:51, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
Hey senpai (hope you don't mine me calling you that. A lot of people who speak Japanese hate being called -senpai or -san or -sensei)! I have a few questions:
- Should fanclub-exclusive compilation albums be included in Kuraki's discography?
- Where should I put songs that charted due to airplay/downloads (assuming they're not promo singles), like "Watashi no Shiranai Watashi"?
Thanks! Ryoga (talk) 16:56, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
- Those can still be in the compilations, since they're albums that exist, as long as they're sourcable. If something received airplay, you can be pretty safe in calling it a promo single. Otherwise, an 'Other charted songs' section is what I did here! --Prosperosity (talk) 00:06, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Ryoga (talk) 03:26, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Me again! Can you tell me if her works charted on Gaon or Hanteo charts as well? I could find only one entry on Gaon for "Drive ME Crazy" :( It's very hard to search lol. As for Hanteo, I think they require that we subscribe to view the charts. Ryoga (talk) 04:22, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- For Gaon I've just been manually searching by going to the release date, searching that week plus a few more in the overseas (국외) section, and then if I find anything I double-check the overall (종합). It's a bit of work, but it should be easy enough since she's only had a few albums since 2010. There's also the digital singles chart, but I dunno if anything that wasn't a Japanese version of a Korean song or Arashi would chart. --Prosperosity (talk) 04:31, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hmm, I've been searching too. It's hard, like I said. Where can I find the Korean release dates? I searched through digital chart, all that's left is the download chart :D Ryoga (talk) 04:36, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think these-days a lot of them are import Japanese/Taiwanese copies, so just the Japanese date plus a few days.
- Oh, something you might like is her pre-2003 certs:
- Hmm, I've been searching too. It's hard, like I said. Where can I find the Korean release dates? I searched through digital chart, all that's left is the download chart :D Ryoga (talk) 04:36, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- For Gaon I've just been manually searching by going to the release date, searching that week plus a few more in the overseas (국외) section, and then if I find anything I double-check the overall (종합). It's a bit of work, but it should be easy enough since she's only had a few albums since 2010. There's also the digital singles chart, but I dunno if anything that wasn't a Japanese version of a Korean song or Arashi would chart. --Prosperosity (talk) 04:31, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Me again! Can you tell me if her works charted on Gaon or Hanteo charts as well? I could find only one entry on Gaon for "Drive ME Crazy" :( It's very hard to search lol. As for Hanteo, I think they require that we subscribe to view the charts. Ryoga (talk) 04:22, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks! Ryoga (talk) 03:26, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
3x PLAT Love, Day After http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200006.pdf MILL http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200005.pdf
2x PLAT Stay by my side http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200007.pdf
PLAT Never gonna give http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200008.pdf
MILL Secret of my heart http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200008.pdf
3MILL delicious Way http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200009.pdf
GOLD Simply Wonderful http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200011.pdf
PLAT Tsumetai Ame http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2001/2001_04.pdf
PLAT Stand Up http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2001/2001_06.pdf
GOLD always/倉木麻衣/2001.06.06(GZ) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2001/2001_8.pdf
GOLD Can't Forget http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2001/2001_10.pdf
Gold Winter Bells http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2002/200203.pdf
PLAT Feel fine!/倉木麻衣/2002.04.24(GZ) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2002/200206.pdf
4xPLAT Perfect Crime/倉木麻衣/2001.07.04(GZ) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2002/200212_03.pdf
Gold Like a star in the night/倉木麻衣/2002.09.04(GZ) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2002/200211.pdf
2x PLAT FAIRY TALE/倉木麻衣/2002.10.23(GZ) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2003/200301.pdf
ゴールド Make my day/倉木麻衣/2002.12.04(GZ) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2003/200302.pdf --Prosperosity (talk) 04:38, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks! I thought "Stay By My Side" was certified Million, guess I was wrong lol. Ryoga (talk) 04:46, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, was Perfect Crime certified Million? [28] Also, "Stay By My Side". Can you please check? Ryoga (talk) 14:12, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, old-style 4x Platinum meant 1,600,000 copies (and 3x 1,200,000)! I didn't see a million cert for Stay By My Side, only a 2x Plat (800,000 copies), but they could have listed it somewhere else. --Prosperosity (talk) 14:25, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. JA.Wiki says "Stay by my side" is also million lol. Btw, it's still a work in progress, but what do ya think? Ryoga (talk) 14:35, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Lol, they just made that up. People even lie on the JA wiki about sales and certs!
- Looks pretty good so far! You might wanna use user space for the draft, since copy/pasting stuff sometimes creates minor problems that weren't there before (like how the remix albums has a box for certs but no certs). Although apparently even that doesn't catch everything, lol. --Prosperosity (talk) 15:05, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- They do!? Lol, I guess it's because no one cares about things like this there.
- Actually, I worked on the article in my sandbox but never saved it. Just copied and pasted to a txt document and saved it to my computer :D Ryoga (talk) 11:17, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. JA.Wiki says "Stay by my side" is also million lol. Btw, it's still a work in progress, but what do ya think? Ryoga (talk) 14:35, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah, old-style 4x Platinum meant 1,600,000 copies (and 3x 1,200,000)! I didn't see a million cert for Stay By My Side, only a 2x Plat (800,000 copies), but they could have listed it somewhere else. --Prosperosity (talk) 14:25, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hey, was Perfect Crime certified Million? [28] Also, "Stay By My Side". Can you please check? Ryoga (talk) 14:12, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
Kuraki
It's done, I think. Can you add translated titles and updated sales figures. Some even don't have sales information, can you do something about them too? Thanks! Btw, next on my list is Masaharu Fukuyama discography :D Ryoga (talk) 14:26, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Done! Only a couple were wrong (plus I got rid of the DVD sales since Oricon doesn't keep an accessible tally, so it's unsourceable). There's also the digital certs to go! --Prosperosity (talk) 01:51, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- (Just these two it seems!), oh and a video cert for My Reflection. --Prosperosity (talk) 01:58, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Ooh. I had a feeling My Reflection was certified, but couldn't find a source. Thanks for that! :) Ryoga (talk) 04:26, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Hey! Is "Muteki na Heart" still on charts? Can you add the updated sales figure? Ryoga (talk) 11:23, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- Done! --Prosperosity (talk) 11:49, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
I also have a few questions regarding Fukuyama's discography:
- Can you give me the chart positions in Taiwan for his singles and DVDs?
- Did these songs chart in Taiwain? たまには自分を褒めてやろう (SION and Fukuyama), "Wish" (Akira Inoue & M.I.H. Band), Kiss Shite (Koh+), Saiai (koh+), Let's Try Again (Team Amuse), and Koi no Magic (Koh+).
- Did his songs chart on Ringtone chart? Were they certified (digital)?
I'm almost done with the discography, these are the only stuff remaining :) Ryoga (talk) 11:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- Fukuyama Masaharu 福山雅治
2006 week 32
- 15JP Another Works
2007 week 6
- 2jp 5nenmono
2008 week 45
- 16jp Sou
2009 week 28
- 8jp Zankyou
2011 week 13
- 4JP Best Bang
2011 week 37
- 9JP fighting pose
2012 week 15
- 19
- 5JP Ikiteku
2012 week 42
- 9JP Beautiful Life
2013 week 15
- 8JP Yuri/Get the Groove
2014 week 23
- 7
- 2JP Human
- Don't think so!
- You can search those on google! site:riaj.or.jp/data/others/chart/, site:riaj.or.jp/data/others/gold/, site:satsuki.musicdb.gr.jp/all_info/ranking_weekly/, etc.
- And here are the old certs, which i think you'll probably want:
PLAT Heart/you http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/1998/199807.pdf
PLAT Sing a Song http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/1998/199809.pdf
GOLD Peach http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/1999/199901.pdf
2x PLAT Heaven/Squall http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200005.pdf
4x PLAT Magnum Collection http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200008.pdf
2MILL Sakurazaka http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200009.pdf
PLAT Hey! http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2000/200012.pdf
GOLD Gang http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2001/2001_06.pdf
Million ミリオン f/福山雅治/2001.04.25(UM) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2001/2001_7.pdf
GOLD fukuyama masaharu acoustic live best selection "Live Fukuyamania"/福山雅治/ 2001.06.27(BMG) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2001/2001_8.pdf
プラチナ The Golden Oldies/福山雅治/FUKUYAMA ENGINEERING GOLDEN OLDIES CLUB BAND/ 2002.06.26(UM) http://www.riaj.or.jp/issue/record/2002/200208.pdf --Prosperosity (talk) 12:01, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've been bugging you again, haven't I? I'm sorry! 申し訳ありません、 先輩! Ryoga (talk) 12:20, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not at all! I'm here to be bugged. --Prosperosity (talk) 02:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)