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not even near a fiesta!

I thought of another similarity - I was told that I couldn't understand Colbert or write about her because I'm just an Australian - too culturally different, it would seem, and then in the midst of several anti-Australian rants he/she told me that he/she was Japanese. So go figure that one! Maybe Claudette is huge in Japan. I shouldn't assume that she's not. Now your Texas-ness is being held against you. Of course, being from Texas, you would have no concept of American culture, so what would you know? LOL There have been numerous puppets, in fact, almost every edit to CC over the last year, with some obvious exceptions, are questionable. I've also noticed that there are some "editors" that have "worked" on Claudette Colbert and have also played tag team in reverting edits on totally unrelated pages. I can't remember the example, but it was a US politician that I'd never heard of (being Australian and all). But what are the chances of the same editors having CC and the same minor politician on their radar? My guess is zero. It was really obscure,so I'll try to find it. It's all lunacy isn't it?

On another, happier, lighter note. Oh my god, an American who loves Kylie Minogue!! I was one of the "Kylie Minogue for WP:FA" ringleaders, so to find an American that likes her enough to put it on their user page - well that's wonderful to see. Here's a fun little article you may enjoy Kylie lights up G'Day red carpet in LA Cheers Rossrs (talk) 10:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves. I think it's only a matter of time before this user goes berserk and it wouldn't be the first time. Anyhow - Kylie. Those pics are great - she is gorgeous. I've also been a fan since The LocoMotion and I think she's an interesting performer. You sound a little more obsessive than me, but that's OK. Her live shows are superb. I remember being at one and she says "here's a new song I'm trying out and I just want to see if you like it. It's called "Can't Get You Out Of My Head"." Yes, we liked it. LOL I've always thought it strange that she is SO popular in Europe and yet the US has never really taken to her, even though it has taken to other female performers who are kinda similar to her. Rossrs (talk) 11:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I remember reading Kylie say something about being able to walk down the street in the US and she wasn't sure she really wanted to give that up. So perhaps she's never tried very hard. I have a friend, who with her 6 year old, bumped into Kylie in a shop in Brisbane, and Kylie let them take photos and was very friendly and made a big fuss of the 6 year old, who was in 7th heaven, and is very proud of the photos which she showed to everyone. I quite like to know that someone I like as an entertainer may also be a nice person. As for our friend - personal attacks? kinda, but weird more than harmful. To give you an idea : on my user page I boast shamelessly about bringing Vivien Leigh to FA. So when I started to take a hard line with the CC article, he started vandalising Vivien Leigh by adding large rants about Laurence Olivier's homosexuality. Then when I'd edit CC, he'd revert with an edit summary "Vivien Leigh fan get out here!" (which I think means "Vivien Leigh fan, get the hell away from the Claudette Colbert article, you have no business here") Then he'd make mischievious edits to my user page. Nothing harmful or even offensive, but annoying. He insisted on referring to Claudette Colbert as "Mrs Pressman" in her article. Another editor reverted and he commented on the talk page, saying that the other editor was removing the "Mrs" so that people would think she was a lesbian. Then he went off onto a rant about anyone who thought Claudette was a lesbian needs to ... I can't remember exactly.. but leave Wikipedia. It's mostly been blind reversions and using socks to avoid WP:3RR, claiming ownership, and (this bugs me to death) using misleading edit summaries, such as "reverting unexplained edit", even though the edit was explained in detail. He is extremely dishonest in this regard. He's left personal attacks on my talk page and about maybe 5 other editors that I know of, but they are all garbled nonsense. They reek of hostility but it's hard to know exactly what he's getting at. Also, he had a habit of copying and pasting chunks of text from a website and just sticking it into the article. I think the problem with banning is that it only bans the user name, but the new user names spring up like weeds. I think he has about 12 current user names now. He's been banned at least 6 times, and I've also had CC protected and semi protected. As you can see, that has had no effect. Oh and one more thing, he's very particular about the images. I've also encountered him at Commons and he's caused his share of trouble there too. He does not like Image:Claudette Colbert in Cleopatra trailer.jpg at all as he considers it "obscene". Likewise Image:Claudette Colbert and Clark Gable in It Happened One Night film trailer.jpg. A bit of leg is hardly shocking, so he's very prudish. Rossrs (talk) 13:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Gee, I wonder if this particular person has a clone who lives in California, Pink?? Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

or claims to perhaps? One of the socks claims to be American. :-) But makes exactly the same edits as this editor, who is in Japan. An IP check of some of the anon edits showed he came from Japan. Rossrs (talk) 21:32, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

No, not in this case. Pink & I have our own little name-hopper who sometimes uses anonymous IPs. They come from the Los Angeles area and at Christmas time, from the East Coast. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

OK. I think I tend to get paranoid. I go by the theory that if it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. But sometimes it's a turkey. :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossrs (talk • contribs) 22:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe I am paranoid (see above) but a sock has sprouted from nowhere to vandalise Kylie Minogue. The timing is coincidental. I wonder what'll happen if we start talking about Britney Spears. LOL Rossrs (talk) 06:13, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, and I'm glad you think it's OK. Actually there are a surprising number of images of her at Commons, so there are enough to choose from - unlike many performers. It will be interesting to see how long the civility lasts. It's gotten of to a shaky start. LOL Rossrs (talk) 20:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Tnblk Ji

Heh. I'd already yelled at him/her for that :) Wildhartlivie (talk) 18:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Not unless you feel compelled. Wildhartlivie (talk) 18:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Look

Take a look at the new and improved Miyoshi Umeki page, which is updated from this. Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Um, I think someone has found a new name.[1] Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, not a strong pattern yet, but it's odd that a brand new name pops up, only makes weird edits on a relatively obscure film bio, then leaves. I dunno, maybe I'm paranoid too. I'm not surprised at the absence. But I'm positive there's a new name out there somewhere that's busy editing away! Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Colin Ferguson

Not sure how you ended up on this one, but anyways... This is an article I'm not keen on diving into, but I see some issues at face glance. So I'll mention them to you.

• Since this happened 14 years ago, are the names of the 3 passengers who subdued him a) necessary, b) otherwise notable and c) verifiable? They at least need a citation, but I suspect naming them isn't relevant.
• I'm also not keen on the use of the term "innovative defense," which, while it does have an entry here, isn't much more than a definition with no sourcing. This defense is, in fact, an affirmative defense.
• Passing comment: WTH happened with Court TV? I LOVED watching the trials back in the day (Betty Broderick, Dahmer sentencing hearing, Robert Bardo, etc.). Now it's "Real TV." Puh-leeze.
• Yes, I think the wording of that sentence is probably POV, at least. It's also a bit sardonic, which reminds me that there is a policy somewhere about trying to interject humor.
• Also, I hate the overuse of the word "also" in articles. Then again, I hate the overuse of the word "then" too.
• There are quotes in the article attributed to the judge with no citations at all.
• "Only because at least one person died, did he become eligible for a life sentence rendering the cap law inapplicable" has a tinge of POV in it. All it's missing is a "Thank God" at the end.
• The discussion of the merits of Carolyn McCarthy's campaign advantages IS an armchair analysis with little basis for extensive inclusion and no citations for it. In fact, the whole "Aftermath" section is rife with weasel words ("most," "gun rights advocates," "a number"). This whole section reads like a poor attempt to "prose-ify" a list of trivia. I'm sure that's what it is. SNL sketches?? Dinner theatre mysteries?? This all needs to go.

LOL, hope this helps. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: 2006 Texas assault: No doubt that article has issues. It reads like it was copied from a newspaper, which, in fact, part of it was copied from the 3rd reference. Why are the street addresses of the perpetrators listed in the article? What is the name of the template about it reading like an newspaper article? Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't do anything to it and give me a couple minutes and I'll show you how I think it should look. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

You're gonna love this: The incident took place in Glenbranch, Houston,Texas, during a party held at the home of the Sons family. Two students who attended Klein Collins High School, David Henry Tuck and Keith Robert Turner beat, tortured, and sodomized David Ritcheson, a 17-year old Hispanic Klein Collins student and former running back for the school football team.

I've got a lot more done to the page. I'll wait and you let me know. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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Here ya go, use what you want:

Article

The 2006 Texas assault incident refers to the beating, torture, and sexual assault of a Latino student by two white youths during the early morning of April 22, 2006 in an unincorporated section of Harris County, Texas, United States. The details of the attack lead to publication of the story in various media outlets inside and outside of the United States. The severity of the crime led to the suicide one year later of the victim, whose identity was not made public until well after the attack.

The assault

The incident occurred at a residence located north of the city of Houston, Spring, Texas, at a party held at the Sons family home. Two Klein Collins High School students, David Henry Tuck and Keith Robert Turner, beat, tortured, and sodomized David Ritcheson, a 17-year old Hispanic Klein Collins student and former running back for the school football team.

Tuck and Turner, who were both under the influence of recreational drugs, said they were told that Ritcheson, also under the influence of drugs tried to kiss 12 year Danielle Sons. The allegation sent Tuck into a rage, and Tuck punched Ritcheson. The first punch was so powerful that Ritcheson's cheekbone was broken and he was knocked unconscious. Tuck and Turner proceeded to drag Ritcheson outside, stripped and burned him with cigarettes, before choking him with a gardening hose and engraving a swastika into his chest. Tuck kicked Ritcheson with steel-toed boots and violently kicked a patio umbrella PVC pole up his rectum several inches while yelling racial slurs. After the sodomy ended, the perpetrators poured bleach on the victim's body to conceal the evidence of the crime. The attack lasted for over an hour.

The night after the assault, Ritcheson's lungs failed, forcing him to placed on a ventilator. High levels of toxins in Ritcheson's organs led County prosecutor Mike Trent to speculate that the attackers may have poured bleach inside the pipe. The victim remained in the hospital for three months, facing close to forty surgeries and a possible life of infirmity, because the PVC pipe had perforated his bladder and caused extensive internal injuries.

In December 2006, Tuck and Turner were both convicted of aggravated sexual assault. Tuck, who was described by prosecutors as a white supremacist, was sentenced to life in prison. Turner was sentenced to 90 years. Neither will eligible for parole until 2035 at the earliest. Tuck has since appealed his life sentence.

Aftermath

After being contacted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and agreeing to make his name public, Ritcheson went to Washington, D.C., and on April 17, 2007, testified to the United States House of Representatives Judiciary Subcommittee about passing more stringent hate crime laws.

Death

After the attack, Ritcheson refused professional counseling and would not talk about his experiences with friends. On the morning of July 1, 2007, Ritcheson committed suicide by jumping from the deck of the MS Ecstasy, a cruise ship bound for the Mexican resort island of Cozumel. The Ritcheson family's attorney, Carlos Leon, confirmed his death.

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You know me, I just love to butt in. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Pinkadelica,

I have been informed that the page I am working on: GARY CATONA will be deleted by Saturday if I do not do meet certain objections.

Would REALLY appreciate your assistance!

K W LaQua (talk) 20:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Pinkadelica,

I would very much appreciate it, if you would review the Gary Catona page, and see if you can eliminate the objections. Thank you so much.

Keith LaQua —Preceding unsigned comment added by K W LaQua (talk • contribs) 03:00, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Ladd

I made a determined effort not to remove pertinent, useful, cited material. I did not do a simple rollback. If something was inadvertently removed, I apologize. I wrote much of the Ladd article (with citations), but it's been a while since I checked it to see what's been changed over the past few months. I happened to notice your changes, which had included a couple of things I disagreed with, importance-wise, so I changed those. But there was not an intentional mere rollback on my part. Monkeyzpop (talk) 15:38, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Quick question

Well, just a quick look through the article tells me it needs quite a bit of work. To comment specifically on your question though, have you read WP:COI? It doesn't necessarily main that you cannot edit if you have a conflict of interest, it just means you have to be more careful about the content you add or modify. I wouldn't rollback anything, unless it is vandalism. But if you review the edits that were made by the questionable user, and see that they are against a neutral point of view, or have some other problem that reflects a conflict of interest, then feel free to modify it. Hope this helps. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:38, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

If content is not within a neutral point of view, or otherwise not up to par with our guidelines, I invite you to modify it. Be Bold. I'll watchlist this article, and take a closer look in a few days or so, but feel free to work on it now. - Rjd0060 (talk) 05:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Kylie

No, not all. It's just when you reverted one edit of vandalism, you missed two earlier edits from the same culprit, and a "KYLIE RULES" which I also missed on my first edit. Who knows how long that was lurking there! Then I went into "fix-it" mode and started seeing other problems, including Kylie's mother in traditional Welsh dress, clog-dancing. I was sure that wasn't what she was into.  ;-) Cheers. Rossrs (talk) 07:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey

One of my favorite guilty pleasure movies is Cool Runnings, and a quote from that is "Sanka, mon, you dead?" Always cracks me up. Anyway, Sanka, mon, you dead? Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:19, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure about any of the Adnan Ghalib stuff. I'm not convinced by either source regarding his background. I found source that said he is British-Pakistani (born in Britain). Maybe this shouldn't say at all until that is cleared up. Perhaps "raised in Britain by Pakistani parents" or something similiar. But no, I don't find anything reliable to say he's Afghani, and in fact, given the political climate, don't think he'd be Afghani. I'm not sure what to do about it. Maybe raise a request for review of the article? He's non-notable except for Britney. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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re: Hey

I answered with my opinion on the issue. I still think the guy's article needs to be deleted. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Pinkadelica

Thank you so much. I was able to spend a little time on it tonight. Am I heading in the right direction? You are appreciated. K W LaQua (talk) 11:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hayden Panettiere

Would you take a look at the new photo this girl uploaded for this? I've tried to find it on the web, as I'm absolutely positive it was NOT taken by the uploader as she claims!! Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually like the photo itself, but it is cut oddly, and I'm betting what was cut is whatever would help to identify it. On other matters, I helped out the guy a bit on the Gary Catona article, and left him a kind of hateful note about his not working on it after I did. Then he writes back to say he's been distracted due to the death of his aunt, which made me feel like a shrew. Ah well. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

ADNAN GHALIB

STOP reverting my edits which are well documented!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.117.94.57 (talk) 23:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Please see the page and the related discussion I opened. Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:10, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The reference you posted doesn't provide any evidence that he was born in Afghanistan. So, I will be changing the article back to my previous post and please stop vandalizing my edits. Is this where you get your Afhgan-born from, "Originally from Afghanistan, Adnan moved with his family to London in 1977 as a five-year-old refugee and then to Birmingham"? Please learn try to read before you make any edits to the article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.207.78 (talk) 02:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

You Are Great!

Thank you so much. You are terrific. Am so pleased. You were so kind and helpful. I felt like I was swimming against the tide without a life preserver for awhile. I added two more references. One under bio and the other under Larry Carlton. RE: the Picture. I contacted Mr. Catona and he agreed to send me a picture that he owns so we could use it. Cool. What do I do with it? K W LaQua (talk) 03:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Britney's bore

I'd totally support it for deletion. The criteria that I mentioned on the talk page is specifically the reason it should be deleted. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Help

I came across the Ben Kuchera article, which is totally a new article, while trying to finish up unassessed film bios. I did a little checking and the article is basically the same article that exists in various pieces (mini-biography, trivia, etc.) on IMDB. The IMDB material was written by "M. Taylor." Then I notice that the article here talks about this guy's friend of twenty years, Michael J. Taylor. Essentially, it appears to be a autobiography/biography in tandem with the subject, large parts of it are non-encyclopedic and beyond all that, he's not notable. I'm not even sure where to start with this. My gut feeling is that it should be nominated for speedy deletion due to copyright violation because of the copious amounts of information taken directly from IMDB, which takes longer than 2-3 weeks to be updated to the extent it is. Would you mind taking a pass at it and see what you think should be done with it? Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm thinking maybe the guy should write a book about his life. It's kind of an interesting story, except it's not notable! Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Adnan Ghalib

I removed the WP:PROD tag from this article, because it was not eligible for deletion via the proposed deletion process due to the fact that it had already been through AfD. If you read the proposed deletion policy page it states:

Articles that:

• Have previously been proposed for deletion
• Have previously been undeleted
• Have been discussed on AfD or MfD

are not candidates for {{prod}}.

Just for future reference. By all means put it through AfD though if you want - I think that may be a good idea, myself. Thanks.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 17:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

ArbCom injunction

Just a little heads-up: See the temporary injunction in the current Episodes and characters 2 request for arbitration. It doesn't apply to List of The New Gidget episodes, but be careful nevertheless. Some admins are out to use it as an excuse to block users who are against creating an article for every peep. User:Dorftrottel 22:08, February 19, 2008

Adnan Ghalib

I think the notice you put up is the wrong one. It has to go AfD rather than prod. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Go to WP:AfD and use the same argument re: relationships don't make notability. I'll put my comments in on it too. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Nope, and I reverted it and left the guy a note. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Amy Winehouse

We have an editor who seems to want to put every bit of tabloid gossip into the article. Hopefully you'll weigh in on it. I've put a question about using The Sun and other British tabloids in as sources. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

It was too good to be true

I was checking to see if our friend had come back and look what I found here. Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Priorities

I opened a discussion on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers page that you might find interesting. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Question

Hello Pinkadelica, I noticed that you use Twinkle a lot, and correctly as well. I was wondering if you would like rollback rights granted to your account. Rollback is an anti-vandalism feature which you can use alongside Twinkle, and it's quicker at reverting vandalism than Twinkle is. Acalamari 22:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, normally you would have to go to Wikipedia:Requests for rollback or ask an administrator for it. However, neither of those need to be done because I am an administrator and I asked you if you wanted rollback. :) Rollback granted. Good luck. Acalamari 00:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) Acalamari 18:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Amy Winehouse

While I agree in theory about the need to scale back the crap about her personal life and drug use, I'm not so sure I agree with what one editor did with it, which was to cut it out altogether. Did you see that?? Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Archive

How often do you archive your talk page? It looks so clean and only today's messages are there... Cheers! :) Λua∫Wise ^{(Operibus anteire)} 14:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Adenoids

Heh. Well, let's just propose that the redirects consider deletion since the consensus on Britney is that he is an unimportant footnote (who seems to have dropped from the radar). Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Amy Winehouse

As an editor involved in the recent content issue regarding this article, please see the talk page for discussion of the article and the events of the past 24 hours. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Amy Winehouse

As a regular contributor to the Amy Winehouse article, you are invited to join the editing process of the article's personal life and controversy sections, temporarily located here. For discussion on recent issues, go here. For current discussions, go here.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 14:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm about to say **** a bunch of Amy Winehouse. I truly do not have the patience for this. Email coming. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Something different

If you care to, Rossrs and I have been working on updating the list of top priority actors and filmmakers. The lists and discussion is at User:Wildhartlivie/Stuff. If you have any comments either that glaringly contradicts or supports any of it, please leave a note. Ta! Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, crap

I removed the implication that no mention means something and left a note on the article talk page about re-opening the mediation if DooDuh wants to start editing the page again. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I know how you feel, that's precisely how I felt about Amy Winehouse. There was just too much cabalism involved in the whole issue. What I do know, deep in my heart, is that our old nemesis has never left, there's just a username that we haven't run across as of yet. When I do, then I'll unlease the hounds of hell, as it were. Meanwhile, I've engrossed myself in more solitary work, at least until I got Rossrs to work on the priority list. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:18, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

The problem with the page is at the very bottom:

These pages were saved from "This Is My Story" for reference usage only. Please note that these pages were not originally published or written by BlackCat Rockabilly Europe.

At least to me, that is saying that they don't necessarily endorse the validity of it. I'd want a corroborating source, wouldn't you? Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Need I ask who that someone was who added the Native American part? Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I know that despite a Bachelor's AND a Master's degree in psychology, and a thesis to go along with it, my research skills pale in comparison to the stellar skillz displayed. I am considering handing back in my degrees. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

It's good you can blame someone else besides yourself. My mom didn't teach me about common sense, only how to whine a lot. Speaking of whining, everytime I have tried to type "Amy Winehouse" I have to backspace and remove the H i place after the W.

Even if you aren't interested in the actual priority stuff, take a look here at the comment Rossrs added on some of these actors (and the list of others to consider). I laughed my butt off. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, it has finally PO'ed me. Take a look at the additions I made to Johnnie Ray as well as the talk page. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

What's getting on my last nerve is the "personal attack" crap every time I say something critical. Does she think if she says it is that it will get me blocked?? Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:01, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I was working on assessments and came across this. Note the contributions of the anonymous person supporting our friend at the bottom of the section. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

What drives me crazy is trying to figure out what side of the pink line she/he is on. Wildhartlivie (talk) 10:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Scott Baio

The comments on the talk page were posted from the Philippines. That all reminds me very much of a character in the film Good Morning, Vietnam, a gay club owner who had a crush on Walter Brennan and kept asking Robin Williams' character to get him a nude photo of Brennan. It was creepy too. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:42, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films February 2008 Newsletter

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Ricky Dominguez

Dump him. He has NO notability. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:02, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Did you read the note I left with the prod? Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

So I noticed. Well, it it's removed, then there's AfD. Which I'll be happy to intiate. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I am going to prepare an AfD on this then. Wildhartlivie (talk) 22:08, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

This might be it

His sister Louise who is/was engaged to Stan Shaffer. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Nor am I at the moment, but I'm looking around to see what I can find. That Oriel Harwood crap was moved from an article to a user page User:Oriel Harwood in 2006. It hadn't been touched since then, so I deleted the material from the user page as advertising. Maybe I'll get a hateful email too! Maybe this person is Oriel Harwood? Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Jeanne Carmen

Hmm. I'm not sure what I think about this article. It borders on original research to an extent, since the nearly sole contributor is putting together a bunch of material about her in regards to the Kennedys and Monroe in a way that is research oriented, trying to verify or refute contentions about her. There is an entire paragraph on what a tabloid published about her with only one citation. Since its a tabloid, it has to come out. There's alot of crap in it, such as a description of Frank Sinatra's penis. Puh-leeze. Fundamentally, there is a good foundation for an article, but it's both too much and gone awry. We might also ask Rossrs to take a look at it. He's got a nice pithy way of looking at things. It certainly needs work. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

You could tag it as a quote farm, but it's not nearly the quote farm that the Nixzmary Brown article was, and still continues to be. I have NO clue where to go with that one, but I know we're not supposed to be publishing a trial blog. The author said he might consider working on making it into a good article when legislation factors become apparent. Please. Anyway, you also might tag that section with the "section too long" tag if you can find it. Honestly, ask Rossrs his opinion. He should be on soon, if not already. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

That's cool. I thought I was in for a battle with what I took out of the Amy Winehouse article, but so far, nothing has been said. The admin who unlocked it thanked me for removing it before he got to it. However, I'm sure I've not heard the last of it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:03, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

IPass article

Hey, I saw your name on the "editor assistance page" . Can you take a look at the IPass article? Briefly, it was a short article, I made it somewhat longer, now there is a user Special:Contributions/Zadar2007 who

• keeps putting a link to a commercial company back in
• keeps deleting a section someone else wrote
• does not put any comments in his change notes
• does not respond on discussion
• doesn't seem to be contributing any else to WP.

I've reverted twice, first time when it was done by an IP. Since he/she won't discuss it and I have no other contact method, I don't know what more can be done. Thanks for your help. Aaron Lawrence (talk) 04:12, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Amy Winehouse

As much as I know that you want to say no, no, no, could you please, please, please, look at the newest commentary here and if you have anything to add, do so? Thanks, thanks, thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Claudette Colbert

Hi, I would like to ask you a favour. I think the same pattern of edits have started again at Claudette Colbert. Would you please have a look when you have a few moments? There's another "new" user who has only edited this article, (no edits to anything else) and each of his/her numerous edits has been the removal of some small piece of text. Almost all are without edit summary, and interestingly most of them are points that the previous editors objected to. The overall result is a removal of a larger amount of text. I've done a blanket reversion, and I figure if they can't even use an edit summary, that's OK, considering it's a pattern of vandalism that's happened there before. I'm going to be away for about a month, so I probably should have left it alone, but impulse got the better of me. Someone once told me "if it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck". I hear quacking, but I'm not sure. It may just be a goose ;-) Thanks Rossrs (talk) 21:43, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

And I need your back up at this article now. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

And it was reverted again, and I've put a 3RR warning on the user page. If I revert it again, I'll be in danger of violation. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

No, but I had put the in use tag on it after I reverted the changes and went in to remove a few more POV comments and make a couple corrections. When the person reverted it the 3rd time, I left a note about the in use tag and then left the 3RR. It's copying, but yes, this person has more Wikiknowledge than a newcomer should. This is a problem. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, at the moment, the approach is to whine. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Do it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Pinkadelica and Wildhartlivie so much for all the effort you've put into this article today. I'm sorry it's turned out to be such a hornet's nest, but I appreciate that you've both taken action. I am completely sure that this is the same serial-vandal that has been doing this nonsense for over a year. this edit repeats my edit summary verbatim but without context - an old trick, and several edits including this one contain the same mangled English as previous edits, plus there is a complete inability to distinguish between POV and cited opinion (also nothing new). I'm so sure it's the same editor. Thanks again. You two are the best, and I look forward to speaking to you in a few weeks. Cheers Rossrs (talk) 07:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Ipass

Sorry I'm not familiar with the talk page conventions. Thought you would read my message on my talk page.. anywho... Cheers. What do you think about the limitations section they deleted twice without comment? [2]. Also you didn't actually remove the external link - is that intentional? Aaron Lawrence (talk) 04:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Jeanne Carmen

Hello, I saw you working on the Jeanne Carmen site and that page has turned into an absolute joke in my opinion. The person who created is, is also known as Brandon James, her son. He is known to attack anybody who would not believe his and his mother's claims in regards especially the mob, Marilyn Monroe, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, before her death she also claimed to have had an affair with actor Clark Gable. It becomes very clear that this site was created to sell their self published book, which spills out one made-up accusation after the other. It truly is a Munchhausen like read. Ms Carmen had not one single item to prove her claims for example that she was Marilyn Monroe's best friend. It needs to make sure that she will not remembered as friend of all the famous people, when she could never prove it, while she was alive. Her acting was irrelevant and she was making her living by telling lies. She belongs into the Guinness Book of records for telling lies and getting away with it, but Wikipedia is in my opinion not the right place for this self made and announced but never proven friend of Hollywood celebrities. She harmed a lot of stars' reputation by claiming sexual details which are insulting and absurd. Carmen also changed her versions many times over the decades of her tale tellings. After she died, the Associated Press did not mention her as friend of Marilyn Monroe at all. Weareallone (talk) 01:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your fast reply, and I forwarded the article to some in my opinion precise and neutral editors, but it seems right now nobody has time to do anything. But will try my best. Weareallone (talk) 03:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The sources I have looked up, the most reliable did say very little about the speculations and claims of both Carmen and her son. It is obvious that there is a book that needs to be sold when you access their website. But to use Wiki is a bit odd. Not remotely as far as you as an editor. Sorry can't be of more help. Here is a link on Carmen http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22398014/ Weareallone (talk) 05:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

A Quick Apology

From your last comment at Talk:Jeanne Carmen, I can tell that you are frustrated. My comments were written when I was tired and probably not expressing myself well. Working on WP has become a hassle for me lately and I guess I'm inadvertently spreading that hassle around. Sorry. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films coordinator elections

The WikiProject Films coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect five coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by March 28! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 09:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

iPass

I didn't actually add the section on limitations. However the whole article is largely unsourced, so removing one particular section seems odd :) iRoam is a reseller of iPass. Aaron Lawrence (talk) 12:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Cotillard

I will have a look. Oh, and hi, long time, no talk. Haven't felt all that great the last few days, not sleeping much, but too something to be active. Yes, it would be great if you would table the filmography. You can find the sort of template Rossrs and I were kind of using on my little hidden work page here, which also has some basic templates for more prominent outside links. I've distracted my lazy self by just working on assessment with WPBiography the last few days. Also, have you noticed that although the page protect on Colbert has expired, and my editing yesterday on it, that the other guy hasn't returned yet? Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S. You can take care of a LOT of that awards listing nonsense by incorporating it into the notes section of the filmography. I usually include Academy Awards, Golden Globes, Emmy Awards, BAFTA, Screen Actors Guild and the major awards from the actors home country (in this case, César Awards). Then I delete the major awards from the lists. My advice in this case for the rest is to consider grouping it by films, since the predominant number of nominations and wins were for La Vie en Rose, and make awards a prose based section. At first, I balked at the lead paragraph, because it said it was a "career-making performance," but once I looked at the awards, it was. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I think someone came up with a clever little format and just stuck it in regardless of whatever else there was on the page. If I had the enthusiasm, I'd go look to find who it was and see if that person has done that elsewhere, but I'm not ethusiastic. Heh. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:21, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Wow, does that look great!! Wildhartlivie (talk) 11:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Vanessa Angel

There was e-mail contact regarding the birthdate several months ago; however, since then there was a followup (I went back and rechecked the ticket) indicating that the correct date is OK to post. FCYTravis (talk) 09:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Colbert

Help. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, apparently, the 3RR thing does have meaning to the person, if nothing else does. I must say, I was boiling by the time I went to sleep, which was on the end of 26 hours of not sleeping. If you have time, go over to Janis Joplin and give your opinion on something I proposed. Ta! Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Valentino page

PLEASE! Theres a user (Kevin J) who is usuing a gossip unsourced biography as his reference and putting a bunch of dribble in the article (I made all my points on the talk page). After a huge edit war some admins stepped in but locked the page on HIS edits; which driving me batty especially on the talkie issue. Seems trolls like to harass me left and right on this site. Any help would be appreciated thanks!--Thegingerone (talk) 07:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! May I request that we keep it semi protected for awhile (maybe 6 months)? Beyond this guy it seems to get vandalized a lot especially by anoymous ips; this is reflected in the history (usually nonsensical edits about being gay or nothing to do with the article itself). And like I said theres a loooooot of disinformation out there on Valentino; probably more so then any old stars. So that would be another reason. Again THAAAAAAAAAANK you. Im not the fanciest Wikipedian; I just like to add to articles I can and hope that others can fix things Im not knowledgeable on. Several times trolls have come along and I try to take the steps to beat them away but it always takes forever. Valentino is one of my passions; so his article must be perfect :). Im quite proud of Olive Thomas as I barely knew anything on her but there were so many good sources at the bottom it was easy. Thanks again :) --Thegingerone (talk) 07:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Sandboxes go under your userspace

Hello, remember when that you are creating a sandbox to put it under your userspace. I moved Pinkadelica/Sandbox to User:Pinkadelica/Sandbox. Thanks! Cunard (talk) 23:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Ray

I finally added a response to the proposition on the Johnnie Ray talk page. Sent an email about it as well. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:40, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank You For Taking Your Time on Valentino

I would like to raise some of the issues. I don't want to be involved in anymore arguments or add anymore insults, and I hope the page is properly written. One issue I would like to bring up is that I did discover that Valentino:The First Superstar did include a bibliography in the back page, therefore it is just as reliable The Dark Lover. Also, it appears to me that the user Thegingerone has been labeling some of her opinions as facts. She also has not given a source vouching for some of the claims she has made in the talk page either.Kevin j (talk) 00:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I Really Don't think it needs An Index to Be Reliable

It has a bibliography, and that proves that Mr. Botham has looked it over from other sources. I think he is also a very reliable author, and I also think if he made his biography about Queen Elizabeth II's sister Margaret bad and unreliable, the royal family would have criticized him to the international public. Thank you for taking your time to read this, and I do want the article to be encyclopedic.Kevin j (talk) 16:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Trashing Angelina

The first paragraph sources consist of a gossip-type website that I'd never seen before and one that says the Daily Mirror is the source. Written on January 22, 2008 - her brother is telling people they are going to go look for a new baby over Easter when she was already what? 3 or 4 months pregnant with twins? HIGHLY doubtful. As for the second paragraph addition, the languageoftheblood is a self-published blog, and youtube parodies are meaningless. This is a featured article, NONE of this crap is reliable. I fully support your removal of it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

The only really close to credible thing added was that IMDB did have that short news article when the adoption agency she used to adopt Maddox had problems, but once the "could effect Angelina's adoption" hit the air, it quickly died back down, with the adoption being cleared. It turned out to be a false alarm, but the person who added it didn't follow that up. In fact, the person who added it seems to be on WP with an anti-cross cultural adoption crusade. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for having my back!! Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Hate to ask

But is there any way I can get a little help with another user? God must sound horrible I know! In the history of Wikipedia its been Kevin J and this other user TragedyStriker who was giving me trouble earlier last year. Basically his name is Zachary Jaydon and he likes to edit articles on himself making up claims (Zachary Jaydon deletion log will prove that). Literally thats about all he does at Wikipedia; that and slander the pages of anyone he didnt like or fought with in real life like Ben Bledsoe.

I knew him in real life and hes usuing someone else's name on here. Basically hes just an attention vandal who likes to lob claims left and right. He was blocked for awhile but apparently hes been watching me since November; as he edited the Valentino talk page and struck up a little comradeship with Kevin J a few days ago. I find that quite creepy as hes really an unnerved individual. In addition to usuing someone else's name on here he's used my username on imdb to post slander on Bledsoe's page to try and make me look bad.

I guess of late he hasnt done much to deserve a block (maybe beyond the fact he likes to keep posting my personal info all over here; including my myspace and full name); but is there any way to keep him off my talk page/leave me alone? Id greatly appreciate it. I cant handle a vandal and a psycho all at once. Thanks!--Thegingerone (talk) 10:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the links; I have a lot of trouble navigating the vast adminship of Wikipedia :p! I did what I could and I'll take your advice. Its just this is someone who has been slandering me left and right since November; its hard to bite my tongue. But I will...two crazies are not worth the fight. I have better things to do with my time. Thanks!--Thegingerone (talk) 02:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Um

Did you see? Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I answered your email. I'm so angry my ears are ringing and my hands are shaking. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Give the admin this diff. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

and also Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Dooyar Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Re

Who do you suspect him/her to be a sock of? Also, you're referring to the "hogwash" comment, right? Khoikhoi 04:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I've never been a fan of Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets, as it takes a long time to get results. I recommend that you try WP:RFCU - requests for CheckUser. You get results very quickly there. I would suggest that in your CheckUser report you give the code "G" and cite WP:SOCK#SCRUTINY as your reason for starting a request. Because of Dooyar's block log, and the fact both Nyannrunning and Dooyar are active on the Johnnie Ray article, I think you have grounds for a check. Just make sure to state all of this and you'll be good. Regards, Khoikhoi 04:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay

Here's what I'd written on the AN/I but not saved yet. It's got a lot of diffs:

Title: Intolerable behavior by User:Nyannrunning at Talk:Johnnie Ray#Question

We have been trying for a very long time to work out disputes over this article with User:Nyannrunning, who also has posted contentiously using other usernames, including User:Dooyar, who was blocked last fall for similar attacks (see User_talk:Dooyar#Blocked_.282.29). Our sock puppet report was denied, mostly because it was filed the week of Thanksgiving and this user wasn't online that week. After that, she basically backed away from major editing until recently again, and is now using another name (the Nyannrunning) that wasn't in the report or registered until after the sock report was filed, as well as another username registered the same day (User talk:Debbiesvoucher, to see the same "get help" commentary). Tonight, this user has posted personal information about my visual disability today diff, which was only ever mentioned once on Wikipedia, in a now long archived dispute resolution some months ago with the Dooyar name diff. Now once again, she has told me to get help diff, which is one of the specifics for which she was blocked before. As this diff shows, she also has been quite rude, accusing me of running off our admin mediator, calling my comments "nonsense" and general incivility. This is becoming intolerable.

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Link

Hi, could you explain why you removed this site from Tyrone_Power#External_links? Thanks Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 08:10, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Yo yo

Hey!! Go look at what we did (see new template - the second from the top)!!! Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Gary Catona

Bonjour Pinkadelic. Considering the work done to gain further citations, is it still necessary to have this at the top of the page? "This article needs additional citations for verification." What does one do to have it removed? Is it something you can do? K W LaQua (talk) 05:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Lara Berk

Would you mind going over and checking out this article? I nominated for speedy delete based on notability. The author has contested it and I answered her on the article talk page. See what you think? Thanks! Wildhartlivie (talk) 01:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Meagan Good

Hi Pinkadelica. Thank you for the link I had no idea that it used to look like that I appreciate it. It's just getting slightly frustrating finding anything that is considered legit without a doubt. Sorry for the confusion.Mcelite (talk) 01:31, 11 April 2008 (UTC)mcelite

399 to go

We are almost done, Category:Articles lacking sources from June 2006 is down to less the 400 articles to find references for. I would like to thank you for listing yourself as a volunteer at Wikipedia:Unreferenced articles and would like to take this opportunity to invite you to visit the project again and work on getting the last few articles referenced. We started with 5,572 and we are in the home stretch, please come and try to do a couple a day and we can finish it up in no time. Jeepday (talk) 02:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Fan sites

Hi, just to let you know it doesn't seem to be consensus that fan sites should be removed so you might want to hold off deleting them. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 22:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, looking at the actual guideline page, it seems to put fan sites in the category of social networking sites which seems wrong. Maybe what was meant to be put was fan forums? Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 23:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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