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Wikidata weekly summary #394

16:38, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

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Need your help for revision to Lives of WWI ID Property Proposal

Good evening Andy,

Please can you assist in two areas. I am rather naive to this, and confused.

1. Would it be possible to revise the domain name details, please. In the past it did indeed finish with a .org and was 'https://livesofthefirstworldwar.org/' Since June 2018, it has been revised to 'https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/'

Here is a link to said Property https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lives_of_WWI_ID


2. As an example, would it be possible to update the entry for this man, so that the aforementioned Property / Template is utilised, please? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Edward_Ignatius_Masterson

Whilst I don't contribute to wikipedia as much as I used to, my experience with using a Property / Template is solely with the London Gazette. Once I have seen how a LOTFWW Property / Template has been entered, I can use this knowledge to populate other articles.

Best wishes Keith H99 (talk) 21:40, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

@Keith H99: I've updated the URL on Wikidata. I'm not sure I understand your second request; do you want me to add the value to the Wikidata item about Masterson, to update the Wikipedia article, or to add Masterson as an example on the Wikidata property? What's the URL of his LoWWI page? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:48, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Andy, with regard to the second request, if I understand correctly a template and a property are the same thing. I would like to see an example of a property / template to appear in the Masterson article. The non-template content is based on cite web and is thus:
<ref name="MastersonWW1">{{cite web| url=https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/lifestory/2964480 |title= James Edward Ignatius Masterson VC - person profile |publisher=Imperial War Museum |accessdate=30 June 2019}} </ref>
Hope this makes things clearer. Thanks for the assistance so far. Keith H99 (talk) 22:00, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
https://livesofthefirstworldwar.iwm.org.uk/lifestory/2964480 Keith H99 (talk) 22:12, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

@Keith H99: No, they're not the same. A property is something on Wikidata, that holds a value about the item (subject) to which it is attached; in this case the item about Masterson is Q6133350, and on that item the property "Lives of WWI ID" (aka P4601), which I just added, has a value of "2964480" (the last part of the URL you provided above), as you can see at d:Q6133350#P4601.

Over here on Wikipedia, templates can be used for various things, one of which is to display the value of a property from Wikidata ({{cite web}} is another kind of template). There is currently no template for displaying P4601 values on Wikipedia articles. Would you like me to make one?

Please let me know if that's not clear, or if you have further questions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:25, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello Andy, thank you for taking the time to reply. Thank you for explaining the methodology to me. If you are able to create a template for displaying P4601 values on Wikipedia articles, that would be greatly appreciated. Best wishes Keith H99 (talk) 09:19, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
@Keith H99: Now done, as {{Lives of WWI}}, which I have also added to the above biography. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:32, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Hello Andy, this is fantastic. Many thanks! Keith H99 (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi again. The website gets referred to as "LOTFWW" rather than "Lives of WW1", so would it be possible to change the name of the wikipedia template you created today, and the wikidata property form can stay the same, please? Keith H99 (talk) 22:52, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
@Keith H99: No, because we need to make template names meaningful for people who do not know such acronyms. However, I have made it so that {{LOTFWW}} will also work, as a redirect. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:12, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Andy. Nobody uses the term "Lives of WW1". The happy path would be to view an output of "James Edward Masterson on LOTFWW" Is there a manner in which this can present a different title to the viewer, such as a "Lives of WW1|LOTFWW" whereby the property remains but is presented as LOTFWW. This latter term, the six initials of the platform, is the common term in more general use, when referring to said platform. Keith H99 (talk) 10:58, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
@Keith H99:I've changed the link text to "Lives of the First World War", which is the name used at Imperial War Museum#Databases, and on the target website. As I said, "LOTFWW" is too obscure. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:43, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi Andy, the change to the link text is exactly what I was after, even though I did not articulate myself clearly. This is great. Many thanks for having taken the time to successfully conclude this request. Best wishes Keith H99 (talk) 12:00, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Paul Tilsley for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Paul Tilsley is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Tilsley until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Bondegezou (talk) 15:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)


2019-12-16 Coventry University

Hello

Hello Andy, thanks for the course. --NarratingAndy (talk) 15:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Andy, thanks for today's session. --Prettygirlstill (talk) 15:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

thanks for today

Hi Andy

Thanks for today. I would hapilly have a look at the links you mentioned --Glykeriask (talk) 16:17, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Weekly Summary #395

00:16, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXIV, December 2019

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Thank you ...

Vision in 2020
missing Brian

... for improving article quality in December! There's a peer review open for Clara Schumann and a FAC for Jauchzet, frohlocket!, DYK? We miss Brian who would have helped. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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Seven years!

moar thanks --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019

A graph showing the number of articles in the page curation feed from 12/21/18 - 12/20/19

Reviewer of the Year

This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.

Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

Top 10 Reviewers over the last 365 days
Rank Username Num reviews Log
1 Rosguill (talk) 47,395 Patrol Page Curation
2 Onel5969 (talk) 41,883 Patrol Page Curation
3 JTtheOG (talk) 11,493 Patrol Page Curation
4 Arthistorian1977 (talk) 5,562 Patrol Page Curation
5 DannyS712 (talk) 4,866 Patrol Page Curation
6 CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) 3,995 Patrol Page Curation
7 DragonflySixtyseven (talk) 3,812 Patrol Page Curation
8 Boleyn (talk) 3,655 Patrol Page Curation
9 Ymblanter (talk) 3,553 Patrol Page Curation
10 Cwmhiraeth (talk) 3,522 Patrol Page Curation

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

Redirect autopatrol

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.

Source Guide Discussion

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.

This month's refresher course

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag.

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Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2020!
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Hope you enjoy the Christmas eve with the ones you love and step into the new year with lots of happiness and good health. Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year!CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 21:20, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

20:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Good luck

Follow-up

Not sure if you got my ping, but I replied to you at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Seppi333Bot in regards to further page size reduction. Seppi333 (Insert ) 01:10, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 December 2019

Survey

Hi, sorry for bothering you. I just wanted to tell you that on January 2nd I will leave for Antarctica, so if you could answer those few questions by January 1st it would be great! Alternatively, after January 1st you can send replies to my colleagues' e-mail addresses (but not mine, because I won't be able to read e-mails, being isolated). Thanks, and happy new year! Bye, --Superchilum(talk to me!) 21:08, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #396

Coventry University 31-DEC-2019

Hi Andy, I just wanted to follow up with you on an edit request you submitted at Talk:Coventry University re: their acquisition of Ryton Organic Gardens. The URL you provided was not functioning, so I was hoping you had another one I could use. Let me know if you could, thanks, and Happy New Year!  Spintendo  20:39, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Synonyme : incident

Hello User:Pigsonthewing - he vulture and the little girl I can see that you are better in english then I, a German. But to use the wording „and to have survived the incident.“ is for me not correct. For many years the catastrope in the Hunger Triangle was not an incident, how I see it.

Synonyme : incident Synonyme:event occurrence episode experience happening – etc via google translator. Maybe it ist just ok to write: and to have survived. Can you do this? Best. --Maxim Pouska (talk) 15:22, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

The wording is fine as it is. The "incident" is the encounter with the vulture. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:12, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Oh no - a vulture will never, never touch a living person - the boy did know this. The vultur was just waiting that the boy finished his morning shit. (real). This place was the "bathroom of the hamlet". The vultur was going for the shit not the boy. :-) But how can a westerner from the editorial staff - with a super nice bathroom - writing the editorial this know? OK - no problem. Best. --Maxim Pouska (talk) 17:11, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2020

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).

Guideline and policy news

Arbitration

  • The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted rather than reasonably construed.
  • Following the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Bradv, Casliber, David Fuchs, DGG, KrakatoaKatie, Maxim, Newyorkbrad, SoWhy, Worm That Turned, Xeno.

Miscellaneous


Multiple Pink Floyd song articles turned into redirects

FYI: This edit turned a PF song article into a redirect, essentially bypassing Prod or AFD. The editor in question has been asked to stop, but there may be some damage to undo. If you have the gadget that shows redirects as green, it is easy to find these by looking through the editor's contributions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)