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Tech News: 2024-26
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Editors will notice that there have been some changes to the background color of text in the diff view, and the color of the byte-change numbers, last week. These changes are intended to make text more readable in both light mode and dark mode, and are part of a larger effort to increase accessibility. You can share your comments or questions on the project talkpage. [1]
- The text colors that are used for visited-links, hovered-links, and active-links, were also slightly changed last week to improve their accessibility in both light mode and dark mode. [2]
Problems
- You can copy permanent links to talk page comments by clicking on a comment's timestamp. This feature did not always work when the topic title was very long and the link was used as a wikitext link. This has been fixed. Thanks to Lofhi for submitting the bug. [3]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar). [4][5]
- Starting 26 June, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link at English Wikipedia, making this feature available for you to use at all wikis. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they were linked to, even if this comment has since been moved elsewhere. You can read more about this feature on Diff or on Mediawiki.org. [6]
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MediaWiki message delivery 22:30, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
Hanni is not dual citzenship/national. .
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Do you have evidence that she is a Vietnamese national? Her ethnicity is vietnamese, but she is born in Australia and lived there, so she is of an Australian citzenship. The Korean entertainment article is misinformation and has no evidence that Hanni has ever received Vietnam Citzenship or a national dual wise. Just because she is ethnically vietnamese. I should know, since I'm a Australian vietnamese and know that she can't possiblity be dual citzenship. I have emailed the author of that Korean article (which is probably translated from Korean) so it might have translation issues. Lightningwhitefox (talk) 11:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Neutrally, everything that you have said on the edit summary in all of your 6RR violation on Hanni (singer) and/or Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Lightningwhitefox reported by User:Btspurplegalaxy (Result: ) and/or Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User: Btspurplegalaxy reported by User:Lightningwhitefox (Result: ) isn't supported by WP:RELIABLE SOURCEs. You provided a source to a PDF (believed to be an official documents by the Australian Goverment) however nowhere did that PDF supports whatever you're stating explicitly hence it's considered as failed verification, it's your WP:BURDEN to provide citations to WP:VERIFY the materials that you're adding/changing/contesting, in which you failed to do for 6 times straight. In addition, "
I should know, since I'm a Australian vietnamese and know that she can't possiblity be dual citzenship
" is considered as WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH. I'm not going to WP:EDITWAR with you, given that you clearly don't care about reading the warnings and also complying with the Wikipedia policies and guidelines, I have reported you for your 6RR violation and you will be deal with for such actions as stated in bold in the warnings on your talk page. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)- Well you have have no sources for evidence that she is dual national or discuss it in the page's talk. Ofcourse I'm new to wikipedia so I don't know all your wikipedia rules. But I just know that you are putting false information on her page. Lightningwhitefox (talk) 12:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why not discuss this with the talk page before "rolling" back my changes and not giving me evidence that she has dual nationality. An opinion piece from a Korean entertainment site doesn't prove that she has dual nationality.
- Also original research or common law in Australia? The one thing I can prove is that she Australian, but none of you can prove that she has dual nationality or citzen. Just because she's ethnicity is Vietnamese. Most vietnamese families who migrated to Australia, United states were refugees. Most first generation immigrates have children who were born in that country and don't have any national or citzenship with the country the parents were born. Its like saying, just because I'm vietnamese, I'm also a Vietnamese national? doesn't make sense. Lightningwhitefox (talk) 12:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lightningwhitefox It seems you haven't thoroughly read through the policies on WP:BURDEN, WP:VERIFY, and WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH that I linked above. Regardless of whether you are new or a veteran on English Wikipedia, it's essential to strictly adhere to its policies and guidelines when informed. According to VERIFY, quote "
In the English Wikipedia, verifiability means people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than editors' beliefs, opinions, experiences, or previously unpublished ideas or information. Even if you are sure something is true, it must have been previously published in a reliable source before you can add it
". The Korea Times is not the only source stating the subject as dual nationality; there are multiple reliable sources of similar reputability with the same information. However, per WP:CITEBOMB, we (the editors that contributed to Hanni (singer)) don't include all of them here. Therefore, the statement you made "Well you have have no sources for evidence that she is dual national
" contradicts the VERIFY policy. Additionally, your rationale, "I should know, since I'm a Australian vietnamese and know that she can't possiblity be dual citzenship
" falls under ORIGINAL RESEARCH. As stated in ORIGINAL RESEARCH, quote "On Wikipedia, original research means material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published source exists ... To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article and directly support the material being presented
". As mentioned earlier, you failed to provide such sources in all 6RR violations' revert, including in thetwothree AN/3RR reports, and talk page discussion that was created after violating 3RR, other than providing a failed verification PDF document that does not directly support your rationale i.e. on Australia forbiding dual national. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 12:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Lightningwhitefox It seems you haven't thoroughly read through the policies on WP:BURDEN, WP:VERIFY, and WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH that I linked above. Regardless of whether you are new or a veteran on English Wikipedia, it's essential to strictly adhere to its policies and guidelines when informed. According to VERIFY, quote "
- Well you have have no sources for evidence that she is dual national or discuss it in the page's talk. Ofcourse I'm new to wikipedia so I don't know all your wikipedia rules. But I just know that you are putting false information on her page. Lightningwhitefox (talk) 12:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Create a Site for TDS3
Hello! I just found out that there's no Wiki page for NCT DREAM's 3rd Tour which is THE DREAM SHOW 3: DREAM( )SCAPE. Can you please make it? I want to see their own Wiki page. Thank you so much! 112.204.194.50 (talk) 01:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @112.204.194.50 Please read through WP:FIRSTARTICLE, and then follow the instructions at WP:ARTICLEWIZARD to create a draft article. No account is required for creating a draft article. However, if you wish, you can also create an account. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-27
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Over the next three weeks, dark mode will become available for all users, both logged-in and logged-out, starting with the mobile web version. This fulfils one of the top-requested community wishes, and improves low-contrast reading and usage in low-light settings. As part of these changes, dark mode will also work on User-pages and Portals. There is more information in the latest Web team update. [7]
- Logged-in users can now set global preferences for the text-size and dark-mode, thanks to a combined effort across Foundation teams. This allows Wikimedians using multiple wikis to set up a consistent reading experience easily, for example by switching between light and dark mode only once for all wikis. [8]
- If you use a very old web browser some features might not work on the Wikimedia wikis. This affects Internet Explorer 11 and versions of Chrome, Firefox and Safari older than 2016. This change makes it possible to use new CSS features and to send less code to all readers. [9][10]
- Wikipedia Admins can customize local wiki configuration options easily using Community Configuration. Community Configuration was created to allow communities to customize how some features work, because each language wiki has unique needs. At the moment, admins can configure Growth features on their home wikis, in order to better recruit and retain new editors. More options will be provided in the coming months. [11]
- Editors interested in language issues that are related to Unicode standards, can now discuss those topics at a new conversation space in MediaWiki.org. The Wikimedia Foundation is now a member of the Unicode Consortium, and the coordination group can collaboratively review the issues discussed and, where appropriate, bring them to the attention of the Unicode Consortium.
- One new wiki has been created: a Wikipedia in Mandailing (
w:btm:
) [12]
Problems
- Editors can once again click on links within the visual editor's citation-preview, thanks to a bug fix by the Editing Team. [13]
Future changes
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 4 July 2024
- News and notes: WMF board elections and fundraising updates
- Special report: Wikimedia Movement Charter ratification vote underway, new Council may surpass power of Board
- In focus: How the Russian Wikipedia keeps it clean despite having just a couple dozen administrators
- Discussion report: Wikipedians are hung up on the meaning of Madonna
- In the media: War and information in war and politics
- Sister projects: On editing Wikisource
- Opinion: Etika: a Pop Culture Champion
- Gallery: Spokane Willy's photos
- Humour: A joke
- Recent research: Is Wikipedia Politically Biased? Perhaps
- Traffic report: Talking about you and me, and the games people play
Administrators' newsletter – July 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).
- Local administrators can now add new links to the bottom of the site Tools menu without using JavaScript. Documentation is available on MediaWiki. (T6086)
- The Community Wishlist is re-opening on 15 July 2024. Read more
Tech News: 2024-28
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- At the Wikimedia Foundation a new task force was formed to replace the disabled Graph with more secure, easy to use, and extensible Chart. You can subscribe to the newsletter to get notified about new project updates and other news about Chart.
- The CampaignEvents extension is now available on Meta-wiki, Igbo Wikipedia, and Swahili Wikipedia, and can be requested on your wiki. This extension helps in managing and making events more visible, giving Event organizers the ability to use tools like the Event registration tool. To learn more about the deployment status and how to request this extension for your wiki, visit the CampaignEvents page on Meta-wiki.
- Editors using the iOS Wikipedia app who have more than 50 edits can now use the Add an Image feature. This feature presents opportunities for small but useful contributions to Wikipedia.
- Thank you to all of the authors who have contributed to MediaWiki Core. As a result of these contributions, the percentage of authors contributing more than 5 patches has increased by 25% since last year, which helps ensure the sustainability of the platform for the Wikimedia projects.
Problems
- A problem with the color of the talkpage tabs always showing as blue, even for non-existent pages which should have been red, affecting the Vector 2022 skin, has been fixed.
Future changes
- The Trust and Safety Product team wants to introduce temporary accounts with as little disruption to tools and workflows as possible. Volunteer developers, including gadget and user-script maintainers, are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. The team has created documentation explaining how to do the update. Learn more.
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MediaWiki message delivery 21:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
List of South Korean girl groups has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 08:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-29
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News survey
- Please help us to improve Tech News by taking this short survey. The goal is to better meet the needs of the various types of people who read Tech News. The survey will be open for 3 more days. The survey is covered by this privacy statement. Some translations are available.
Recent changes
- Wikimedia developers can now officially continue to use both Gerrit and GitLab, due to a June 24 decision by the Wikimedia Foundation to support software development on both platforms. Gerrit and GitLab are both code repositories used by developers to write, review, and deploy the software code that supports the MediaWiki software that the wiki projects are built on, as well as the tools used by editors to create and improve content. This decision will safeguard the productivity of our developers and prevent problems in code review from affecting our users. More details are available in the Migration status page.
- The Wikimedia Foundation seeks applicants for the Product and Technology Advisory Council (PTAC). This group will bring technical contributors and Wikimedia Foundation together to co-define a more resilient, future-proof technological platform. Council members will evaluate and consult on the movement's product and technical activities, so that we develop multi-generational projects. We are looking for a range of technical contributors across the globe, from a variety of Wikimedia projects. Please apply here by August 10.
- Editors with rollback user-rights who use the Wikipedia App for Android can use the new Edit Patrol features. These features include a new feed of Recent Changes, related links such as Undo and Rollback, and the ability to create and save a personal library of user talk messages to use while patrolling. If your wiki wants to make these features available to users who do not have rollback rights but have reached a certain edit threshold, you can contact the team. You can read more about this project on Diff blog.
- Editors who have access to The Wikipedia Library can once again use non-open access content in SpringerLinks, after the Foundation contacted them to restore access. You can read more about this and 21 other community-submitted tasks that were completed last week.
Changes later this week
- This week, dark mode will be available on a number of Wikipedias, both desktop and mobile, for logged-in and logged-out users. Interface admins and user script maintainers are encouraged to check gadgets and user scripts in the dark mode, to find any hard-coded colors and fix them. There are some recommendations for dark mode compatibility to help.
Future changes
- Next week, functionaries, volunteers maintaining tools, and software development teams are invited to test the temporary accounts feature on testwiki. Temporary accounts is a feature that will help improve privacy on the wikis. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page. [14]
- Editors who upload files cross-wiki, or teach other people how to do so, may wish to join a Wikimedia Commons discussion. The Commons community is discussing limiting who can upload files through the cross-wiki upload/Upload dialog feature to users auto-confirmed on Wikimedia Commons. This is due to the large amount of copyright violations uploaded this way. There is a short summary at Commons:Cross-wiki upload and discussion at Commons:Village Pump.
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MediaWiki message delivery 01:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 22 July 2024
- Discussion report: Internet users flock to Wikipedia to debate its image policy over Trump raised-fist photo
- News and notes: Wikimedia community votes to ratify Movement Charter; Wikimedia Foundation opposes ratification
- Obituary: JamesR
- Crossword: Vaguely bird-shaped crossword
Tech News: 2024-30
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature News
- Stewards can now globally block accounts. Before the change only IP addresses and IP ranges could be blocked globally. Global account blocks are useful when the blocked user should not be logged out. Global locks (a similar tool logging the user out of their account) are unaffected by this change. The new global account block feature is related to the Temporary Accounts project, which is a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors that are no longer made public.
- Later this week, Wikimedia site users will notice that the Interface of FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") is improved and consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface and Wikimedia's design system. The FlaggedRevs interface experience on mobile and Minerva skin was inconsistent before it was fixed and ported to Codex by the WMF Growth team and some volunteers. [15]
- Wikimedia site users can now submit account vanishing requests via GlobalVanishRequest. This feature is used when a contributor wishes to stop editing forever. It helps you hide your past association and edit to protect your privacy. Once processed, the account will be locked and renamed. [16]
- Have you tried monitoring and addressing vandalism in Wikipedia using your phone? A Diff blog post on Patrolling features in the Mobile App highlights some of the new capabilities of the feature, including swiping through a feed of recent changes and a personal library of user talk messages for use when patrolling from your phone.
- Wikimedia contributors and GLAM (galleries, libraries, archives, and museums) organisations can now learn and measure the impact Wikimedia Commons is having towards creating quality encyclopedic content using the Commons Impact Metrics analytics dashboard. The dashboard offers organizations analytics on things like monthly edits in a category, the most viewed files, and which Wikimedia articles are using Commons images. As a result of these new data dumps, GLAM organisation can more reliably measure their return on investment for programs bringing content into the digital Commons. [17]
Project Updates
- Come share your ideas for improving the wikis on the newly reopened Community Wishlist. The Community Wishlist is Wikimedia’s forum for volunteers to share ideas (called wishes) to improve how the wikis work. The new version of the wishlist is always open, works with both wikitext and Visual Editor, and allows wishes in any language.
Learn more
- Have you ever wondered how Wikimedia software works across over 300 languages? This is 253 languages more than the Google Chrome interface, and it's no accident. The Language and Product Localization Team at the Wikimedia Foundation supports your work by adapting all the tools and interfaces in the MediaWiki software so that contributors in our movement who translate pages and strings can translate them and have the sites in all languages. Read more about the team and their upcoming work on Diff.
- How can Wikimedia build innovative and experimental products while maintaining such heavily used websites? A recent blog post by WMF staff Johan Jönsson highlights the work of the WMF Future Audience initiative, where the goal is not to build polished products but test out new ideas, such as a ChatGPT plugin and Add a Fact, to help take Wikimedia into the future.
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MediaWiki message delivery 00:02, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
I've applied full protection for three days. Please use the talk page. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 13:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Jake Wartenberg, noted and also done at Talk:Lee Min-ho#Listing of "model" as a profession — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 14:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 14:19, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Moving Supersonic (single album) to main page
Hi! I've been working on a draft you created at Draft:Supersonic (single album), and I think it's ready to move to the main page. Now, I can't move it because there's something already there (the redirect to Fromis 9's article) and I can see that you have marked the draft as not afc. So, I wanted to ask you what's the next step from here? Orangesclub (talk) 06:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Orangesclub Too soon imo and also failing WP:NALBUM at this point of time, lets wait till 1 week before release. However, should you wish it to be earlier, I can still move it to mainspace for you. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:21, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, I'm happy to wait- I had a bit of confusion on the process but that works. Thanks for letting me know! Orangesclub (talk) 10:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Orangesclub No problem, happy editing! — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, I'm happy to wait- I had a bit of confusion on the process but that works. Thanks for letting me know! Orangesclub (talk) 10:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-31
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Editors using the Visual Editor in languages that use non-Latin characters for numbers, such as Hindi, Manipuri and Eastern Arabic, may notice some changes in the formatting of reference numbers. This is a side effect of preparing a new sub-referencing feature, and will also allow fixing some general numbering issues in Visual Editor. If you notice any related problems on your wiki, please share details at the project talkpage.
Bugs status
- Some logged-in editors were briefly unable to edit or load pages last week. These errors were mainly due to the addition of new linter rules which led to caching problems. Fixes have been applied and investigations are continuing.
- Editors can use the IP Information tool to get information about IP addresses. This tool is available as a Beta Feature in your preferences. The tool was not available for a few days last week, but is now working again. Thank you to Shizhao for filing the bug report. You can read about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
- There are new features and improvements to Phabricator from the Release Engineering and Collaboration Services teams, and some volunteers, including: the search systems, the new task creation system, the login systems, the translation setup which has resulted in support for more languages (thanks to Pppery), and fixes for many edge-case errors. You can read details about these and other improvements in this summary.
- There is an update on the Charts project. The team has decided which visualization library to use, which chart types to start focusing on, and where to store chart definitions.
- One new wiki has been created: a Wikivoyage in Czech (
voy:cs:
) [18]
Learn more
- There is a new Wikimedia Foundation data center in São Paulo, Brazil which helps to reduce load times.
- There is new user research on problems with the process of uploading images.
- Commons Impact Metrics are now available via data dumps and API.
- The latest quarterly Technical Community Newsletter is now available.
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:08, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Review of article for Gyubin
Hello! I came across this new article, Gyubin for said artist but as far as I know should have been declined and remained as a draft. Sorry, I have close to zero knowledge with respect to the article creation process, so I'm not sure about how to proceed with that and hope you'd help to act on it. I'm not sure who else to seek either. Just for reference, I found Draft:Gyubin which submission was previous declined, and Draft:Park Gyu-bin which is actually the better draft (though without any references etc. as of now). Thank you! Chyx1095 (talk) 12:46, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Chyx1095, your review was correct. Subject fails WP:GNG, WP:NBLP, and WP:SINGER criteria showing no significant coverage from secondary reliable sources that is independent of the subject. I have since draftify to Draft:Gyubin (singer) until it's suitable for mainspace i.e. fulfilling the mentioned criteria, should you wish to, you may improve either of the three drafts. Regards, — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:27, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 25
Hey there, welcome to the 25th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 March 2024. We've got a ton of wonderful editors taking back their pitchforks today. Don't worry, for they come in peace, to forcibly fix and extend existing scripts you use with sheer passion. There's so many, them forks have got what's basically their own column now! gift us with some rows before it's too late Aaron Liu (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
- inline-diff-inline-patrol by Ponor is this edition's featured script. By loading diffs inline on every page that shows a list of changes, it implements the 2023 community wish m:Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Admins and patrollers/Inline diffs and inline patrol. Hopefully we won't need this script anymore soon, with the WMF's focus on the backlog...
- Many of our favorite scripts such as Fred Gandt/userResourceManager, Guarapiranga/search-shortcuts and Bradv/Superlinks haven't been updated for Vector 2022. You could be the one to change that!
- Elominius/media timer works, but its UI looks alien. Someone could improve it...
- To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
- We want...
- ...watchlist notices support for Aaron Liu/Watchlyst Greybar Unsin
- ...a tool to automatically fix CAT:BROKENREFs, preferably a fork/addition to TheJJJunk/ARA
- ...a fix/fork of DannyS712/SectionRemover to make it work
- Automatically delink all duplicate links within the same section per MOS:LINKONCE.
- Collapsible parentheses in body text, which had a ridiculously long original request title and was accidentally moved to WP:US/L by me. Oops!
- An easily configurable script to add a link to the #p-vector-user-menu-overflow portlet with a name, target, and icon. This one should be a relatively easier one. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy rotting away on Celeste (video game).
- Preview an edit under the mobile viewport on desktop, with perhaps MediaWiki:Gadget-mobile-sidebar.js used for inspiration.
- ...and many more, all available at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests. Jeeputer and Nardog have been the most active on the page in the past five months.
- After the RIIJ update, Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin has a dismiss button that allows you to mark an item as read in one click and cycle to the next Watchlist item.
- Lordseriouspig/StatusChangerImproved is just like Enterprisey's script, except you select your status from a dropdown instead of cycling through them with a button. The WMF operates out of car-centric infrastructure anyway. Shame!
- Aaron Liu has created Duplinks from Evad37/duplinks-alt; his fork adds a config variable to automatically highlight duplicate links on the loading of any page where the portlet link would've appeared.
- BilledMammal/Move+ expands the powers of User:TheTVExpert/rmCloser to include common procedures done with the art of moving pages.
- On a holiday? Somewhere? Gotta learn ye ABCs? CanonNi/StatusSetter puts the fun into Enterprisey/StatusChanger with a quadruple more statuses. That starts with a C!
- In our continuing trend(s?), DaxServer/DiscussionCloser forks DannyS712/DiscussionCloser to make it work. Sadly, this is the end of our lexicographic combo.
- Andrybak:
- user-tabs-on-contribs is a fork of User:Enterprisey/user-tabs-on-contribs for Vector 2022.
- Archiver is a fork of User:Enterprisey/archiver with automatic calculation of the destination archive subpage and with support for non-Vector skins.
- Quite coincidentally, Elli/OneClickArchiver has been forked from User:Equazcion/OneClickArchiver to work with the mw:Heading HTML changes.
- FlightTime/OneClickArchiver forks the same thing but also no longer nonsensically prepends {{clear}} to page archives.
- Aaron Liu: MoveTop adds a different padlock topicon for each level of move-protection.
- Andrybak/Not around can help you mark talk pages of inactive users with {{not around}}.
- BrandonXLF/AddCopied automatically tags talk pages of pages you've copied between with {{copied}}.
- Bugghost/UserRoleIndicator adds text labels (which default to emoji) to user links that label the user's usergroups. Wow, that's a mouthful
- CanonNi/AlertAssistant adds a Twinkle-style dialog for alerting users about contentious topics.
- CFA/AttributeTranslation automatically tags articles translated from other places with appropriate attribution.
- In the defense of the 'pedia, the humble Jeeputer/defconIndicator adds the WP:WIKIDEFCON status to the toolbar.
- Tired of staring at a bunch of filtering text and waiting for darn filter logs to load? Msz2001/AbuseFilter analyzer can parse abuse filters into a visual syntax tree and evaluate locally on-demand!
- Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences finds references with the same link and displays the number of them along with a button to add the {{duplicated citations}} tag under the references section. Being lazy has never been easier!
- fastest gun on the net Ponor/really-quick-block really quick add to contribution lists three buttons awesome
- TheTechie/Help Me Tool is a quick and easy way of responding to {{help me}} requests.
- Per MOS:CONFORM, ZKang123/TitleCaseConverter converts all citation titles to... title case, unfortunately.
Hybe Labels gave them a korean name when they released their music video title Debut. I'm sure it can be allowed to be placed on their wikipage since it's their official korean name even though they are based in the states. 122.55.235.123 (talk) 07:49, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- @122.55.235.123 As mentioned, it's not required as they don't promote in South Korea itself, this is akin to suggesting that we should add the official Korean name to every article regardless of whether the subject is marketing or promoting in South Korea, simply because of existing ties or available information. For example, we don't add a group's official Japanese name unless they've released Japanese-language recordings, and the same reasoning applies here. Read on MOS:LEADCLUTTER and WP:VNOT. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi! My draft was declined and I made many edits to it afterwards. I asked at the tea house, but editor there do not feel confident reviewing it. I am looking for someone familiar with k-pop. You made edits to the page about the song with individual made, so I decided to ask you to review it. His name is spelled wrong at the page you edited called Fours seasons- about their song. Draft:Afsheen (musician) I do not know his age, but added all the sources I could find on google. As someone who listen to this music, I really wanted to make this article. I have no idea what else I can add. J2009j (talk) 23:36, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi J2009j, I see that you have submitted the draft for AfC review. Please wait for the next available reviewer to review it. In the meantime, you might want to ensure that the subject of your draft meets the WP:GNG, WP:NBLP, and WP:NMUSIC (particularly WP:SINGER, WP:COMPOSER) criteria. This means showing significant coverage from secondary reliable sources that are independent of the subject and go beyond passing mentions. Regards, — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 00:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, I did. I tried to make a lot of improvements. Most editors who are active, are not sure about it, as they are not familiar with this type of music. I only have their comments they think it is fine, but they would like someone else to take a look. I saw you editing page about the song of this individual so it seems you have some knowledge of k-pop. In WP:NMUSIC it is producer a lot of times, and also singer. J2009j (talk) 00:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @J2009j I appreciate your understanding of the situation. Unfortunately, I've decided not to review the AfC submission. Please wait for the next available reviewer to review the submission. Rest assured, all AfC reviewers are experienced in assessing article submissions. If your draft is still declined, you may find helpful guidance at the WP:TEAHOUSE or the Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Regards, — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 01:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- thank you. I am afraid that nobody is going to reviewed it because it was declined many times. Editors do not scroll down to see the changes. J2009j (talk) 05:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @J2009j I appreciate your understanding of the situation. Unfortunately, I've decided not to review the AfC submission. Please wait for the next available reviewer to review the submission. Rest assured, all AfC reviewers are experienced in assessing article submissions. If your draft is still declined, you may find helpful guidance at the WP:TEAHOUSE or the Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Thank you for your patience and understanding. Regards, — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 01:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yup, I did. I tried to make a lot of improvements. Most editors who are active, are not sure about it, as they are not familiar with this type of music. I only have their comments they think it is fine, but they would like someone else to take a look. I saw you editing page about the song of this individual so it seems you have some knowledge of k-pop. In WP:NMUSIC it is producer a lot of times, and also singer. J2009j (talk) 00:53, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
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Ive lead edit
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Hello, in this Ive edit you removed Kpop from "Kpop girl group" phrase. I really do not understand why. Aren't they a Kpop group by every possible angle? From production to distribution to songs? And what do you mean with "follows their status quo"? Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 14:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I see that you've reverted my edit on Illit as well, under reasoning that the addition of Kpop in the lead is "not an improvement". In this case Kpop is not present at all in the lead. Which is exceptionally strange. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 14:57, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Cinemaandpolitics, changing from
South Korean girl group
orSouth Korean boy band
orSouth Korean singer
orSouth Korean rapper
orSouth Korean musician
toSouth Korean K-pop girl group
orSouth Korean K-pop boy band
orSouth Korean K-pop singer
orSouth Korean K-pop rapper
orSouth Korean K-pop musician
is inconsistent with other high-quality BLP articles, including FA-class (e.g., BTS) or GA-class (e.g., Blackpink). In which, it's also not the observed status quo. I'm not suggesting that "K-pop" shouldn't be included in the lead, it should be used in a different part of the lead, when summarizing on their musical style or genre coverage, etc, rather than the opening sentence. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:16, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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Madein
I just found that you created Madein as a redirect page. Can I ask you move LimeLight to Madein or should I do a proper request at WP:RM? 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 09:32, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi 98Tigerius, please refer to Talk:LimeLight#Move to Madein ?. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Jessica Jung
I just wanted to update her photo. Sorry for the inconvenience. By the way, the current photo is from 2023, so it would be great if you could change it to one from 2024. Please check her Instagram. 112.175.151.242 (talk) 08:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- @112.175.151.242 No, read COMMONS:NETCOPYVIO. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:13, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Potential sock
I have a suspicion that we might be dealing with a sock puppet. I can’t seem to shake the feeling off. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy If you have potential evidence, including behaviour similarities, can consider logging to WP:SPI with CheckUser option checked/enabled. Do let me know if you required any further assistance, as of now, without knowing who is sockmaster, I can't really dig any further. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I’m unsure if this would constitute strong evidence, but I suspect that Cinemaandpolitics and Symphidius might be the same person. It seems unusual that Symphidius immediately joined the NewJeans conservation without making any edits to other articles. Typically, new editors, being beginners, aren't familiar with the intricacies of Wikipedia right away. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy Digging through, I suspected that the latter might be 2601:600:967F:88DC:C86D:F38D:33A9:7AC3 hence why it may looks as if they just suddenly join the NewJeans-related discussion. In terms of behaviour similarities, both are similarly very focused with the lead section hence why it may looks suspicious. Lets observe further for now, based on my experience with SPI's reporting, now isn't the time to report yet if the direction we're looking for is blocking and requesting for CheckUser checking. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- How long would you suggest we observe them? Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 09:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy I think around 2 to 4 weeks, based on their activeness and also their contributions, particularly on WP:TAGTEAM. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, we’ll keep an eye on them until then. I usually have a good sense about socks. If there are no changes in Symphidius's edits over the next 2 to 4 weeks, it should confirm our suspicions. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 09:51, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy I think around 2 to 4 weeks, based on their activeness and also their contributions, particularly on WP:TAGTEAM. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:46, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- How long would you suggest we observe them? Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 09:41, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy Digging through, I suspected that the latter might be 2601:600:967F:88DC:C86D:F38D:33A9:7AC3 hence why it may looks as if they just suddenly join the NewJeans-related discussion. In terms of behaviour similarities, both are similarly very focused with the lead section hence why it may looks suspicious. Lets observe further for now, based on my experience with SPI's reporting, now isn't the time to report yet if the direction we're looking for is blocking and requesting for CheckUser checking. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I’m unsure if this would constitute strong evidence, but I suspect that Cinemaandpolitics and Symphidius might be the same person. It seems unusual that Symphidius immediately joined the NewJeans conservation without making any edits to other articles. Typically, new editors, being beginners, aren't familiar with the intricacies of Wikipedia right away. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:49, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
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So it seems they've been expecting us to accuse them of being the same person: [23] Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy Given the public nature of user talk pages, such are not uncommon. There is nothing really to even hide about otherwise I would have blanked it instead of waiting for the bot to archive. While I understand the concern, I will abstrain from commenting any further to ensure strategic ambiguity and intelligence control. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:20, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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Is my edit using your script unnecessary? 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 08:19, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
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- @98Tigerius No problem. Also another advice is that you should still WP:COMMUNICATE if necessary, however do also take note of WP:LISTENTOUS should you wish to not communicate. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Paper9oll Thanks for the advice. I will never engage with that user ever whatever message he'll leave in the future on my talk page. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 13:11, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi
Hello can you help if you have time and read this article Draft:Abdulrahman Abed thank you @Paper9oll بندر بن عبدالرحمن (talk) 07:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi بندر بن عبدالرحمن, this is not my area of expertise and interests. Please wait patiently for the next reviewer to review the draft instead. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 07:50, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Review for Draft:Kang Hae-rin
Hello @Paper9oll! I noticed that Draft:Kang Hae-rin has been submitted for review some time ago, so can I trouble you to review it please if you have time? Thank you! Chyx1095 (talk) 14:03, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Chyx1095, I will take a closer look at the individual sources when I have some free time. In the meantime, you may want to rectify the multiple WP:CITEBOMB violations found in the sections on Early Life and Education, Career, Public Image, and Endorsements. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 17:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Dreamcatcher's two recent EPs
@Paper9oll Could you take a look at titles of VillainS and VirtuouS? Should MOS:TMRULES applies in those pages? 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 20:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- @98Tigerius Yes, both should be moved to comply with MOS:AT including but not limited to MOS:TMRULES. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 07:12, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Draft I made
Hi there @Paper9oll if you have time, could you take a look at the first K-pop boy group draft I made at Draft:ARrC? 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 11:07, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- @98Tigerius Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 02:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Help on Bibi's music video list
Hi @Paper9oll, can you take a look at the latest edits at Bibi (singer)? Is listing of her M/Vs, with YouTube references (mostly for director credits) "a link dump. these are not "references", and they serve only to fluff up the article"? I probably should have put this on the talk page, but this seems like it can be dealt with in a single action since it is the same for all other K-pop artists. Thank you for your help/advice! (And also thank you for reviewing for Haerin as previously requested) Chyx1095 (talk) 16:11, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Chyx1095 Looks like a content/what about dispute, you may want to resolve this on Talk:Bibi (singer) with the involved parties instead given that you're dealing with an admin here hence I won't recommended that you revert any further if you intended to do so until there is consensus between the involved parties. Looking through the older revision, I could see why it's considered as "
a link dump. these are not 'references'
", as the content is not supported majoritively, if not none, by secondary reliable sources that is independent of the subject hence giving the impression of a "backdoor watch the music video here" in the disguise of references. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:39, 21 August 2024 (UTC) - Chyx1095, this is NOT all the same for all other K-pop articles, and even if it were, that doesn't make it acceptable. We all know that K-pop articles tend toward inflation, and that's what that list does. It's Wikia material. Please do not think that Wikipedia is a repository for every link and every item that fans think relevant: it's an encyclopedia, whose content should be based on secondary sourcing. BTW my admin status isn't really relevant here, but I think my experience is. Drmies (talk) 01:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Drmies I admit I'm not well-versed in all the WP policies/guidelines and definitely not as experienced, but I do understand the need for secondary sourcing. My point here isn't about the links there, but the list of music videos which are present for most, if not all, K-pop artists and definitely not something I think relevant. I'm just confused as to why only Bibi's suddenly got removed. By extension, if secondary sourcing is required, shouldn't a lot of her Discography which do not have any citations essentially be removed as well? Chyx1095 (talk) 01:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know about "suddenly", Chyx1095--I don't keep a calendar of when to look at what article. Sure albums really need secondary sourcing as well (like books in articles for academics), but the idea is that albums (and books) are of a magnitude that one can assume that they themselves are worth mentioning, unlike smaller things like a video or an article or a poem. Because when you list everything that someone is associated with or has been released, you're writing resumes and you're simply compiling lists, and Paper9oll's comment (about the backdoor) is really valid here. When I write articles I will not include things like books or albums or whatever that I cannot give proper (secondary) sourcing for, but that's not something that I am going to remove in an article like this. But a list of, essentially, YouTube links, yes I do NOT believe that should stand. And again--in K-pop we see a constant pushing of those boundaries; some K-pop artist articles now list every single song that the artist has a writing credit for (or co-writing--easily done), which offers yet another avenue for adding yet another list of items. We surely don't do that in most articles, and by the same token we don't list all the videos in regular biographies on musical artists. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Drmies, I understand where you're coming from. I said "suddenly" because the whole entire section that was there for months was simply deleted without any discussion or consensus, or without any notice that the references should be replaced with reliable secondary sources. I agree with your point that a list of YouTube links shouldn't stand and with Paper9oll's comment (about the backdoor), but is it really alright to blank the entire section on that basis with just a short summary, when lists of music videos are present for most other K-pop artists and groups? If someone else like a new user or an IP user with little edit count does it, wouldn't it be immediately reverted for vandalism/blanking or whatever the right term is? Chyx1095 (talk) 16:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm maybe, but I believe the argument is valid. I don't know how long that content had stood, and that's not really interesting to me. I came to the article because I saw on Recent changes that someone had removed a bunch of content, so I checked that edit, then looked at the article and got to work. I'm not going to make it my life's mission to remove every link dump on Wikipedia: life is too short for that, and it's not fun. I just made this edit, and the place is full of articles with those silly flags used incorrectly (according to the MOS), but I'm not about to go through all boxing articles. But here is another thing that I think matters. For those flags, they are a distraction to the reader, and that's why the MOS has a section on it. These video links, that long table, they not only inflate the article, but they also distract from the other, relevant material. We're here for the reader--the reader does not really need such a list because we have Google, with a "Videos" tab. What we need is properly verified material that isn't otherwise accessible, as readable, properly verified prose. Does that make sense? I think about our mission, and about the reader. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- "What we need is properly verified material that isn't otherwise accessible, as readable, properly verified prose." Yes thank you, this is very well put and I understand better now. But once again, shouldn't such removal of a big chunk of content (in fact two sections - Artistry and Videography) require consensus? Based on my observations (at least on K-pop articles), such big removals have some sort of discussion or consensus before they're actually removed, regardless whether the editor believes it's valid or not. Chyx1095 (talk) 17:25, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm maybe, but I believe the argument is valid. I don't know how long that content had stood, and that's not really interesting to me. I came to the article because I saw on Recent changes that someone had removed a bunch of content, so I checked that edit, then looked at the article and got to work. I'm not going to make it my life's mission to remove every link dump on Wikipedia: life is too short for that, and it's not fun. I just made this edit, and the place is full of articles with those silly flags used incorrectly (according to the MOS), but I'm not about to go through all boxing articles. But here is another thing that I think matters. For those flags, they are a distraction to the reader, and that's why the MOS has a section on it. These video links, that long table, they not only inflate the article, but they also distract from the other, relevant material. We're here for the reader--the reader does not really need such a list because we have Google, with a "Videos" tab. What we need is properly verified material that isn't otherwise accessible, as readable, properly verified prose. Does that make sense? I think about our mission, and about the reader. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:55, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Drmies, I understand where you're coming from. I said "suddenly" because the whole entire section that was there for months was simply deleted without any discussion or consensus, or without any notice that the references should be replaced with reliable secondary sources. I agree with your point that a list of YouTube links shouldn't stand and with Paper9oll's comment (about the backdoor), but is it really alright to blank the entire section on that basis with just a short summary, when lists of music videos are present for most other K-pop artists and groups? If someone else like a new user or an IP user with little edit count does it, wouldn't it be immediately reverted for vandalism/blanking or whatever the right term is? Chyx1095 (talk) 16:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know about "suddenly", Chyx1095--I don't keep a calendar of when to look at what article. Sure albums really need secondary sourcing as well (like books in articles for academics), but the idea is that albums (and books) are of a magnitude that one can assume that they themselves are worth mentioning, unlike smaller things like a video or an article or a poem. Because when you list everything that someone is associated with or has been released, you're writing resumes and you're simply compiling lists, and Paper9oll's comment (about the backdoor) is really valid here. When I write articles I will not include things like books or albums or whatever that I cannot give proper (secondary) sourcing for, but that's not something that I am going to remove in an article like this. But a list of, essentially, YouTube links, yes I do NOT believe that should stand. And again--in K-pop we see a constant pushing of those boundaries; some K-pop artist articles now list every single song that the artist has a writing credit for (or co-writing--easily done), which offers yet another avenue for adding yet another list of items. We surely don't do that in most articles, and by the same token we don't list all the videos in regular biographies on musical artists. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:07, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Drmies I admit I'm not well-versed in all the WP policies/guidelines and definitely not as experienced, but I do understand the need for secondary sourcing. My point here isn't about the links there, but the list of music videos which are present for most, if not all, K-pop artists and definitely not something I think relevant. I'm just confused as to why only Bibi's suddenly got removed. By extension, if secondary sourcing is required, shouldn't a lot of her Discography which do not have any citations essentially be removed as well? Chyx1095 (talk) 01:58, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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Tech News: 2024-35
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Administrators can now test the temporary accounts feature on test2wiki. This was done to allow cross-wiki testing of temporary accounts, for when temporary accounts switch between projects. The feature was enabled on testwiki a few weeks ago. No further temporary account deployments are scheduled yet. Temporary Accounts is a project to create a new type of user account that replaces IP addresses of unregistered editors which are no longer made public. Please share your opinions and questions on the project talk page.
- Later this week, editors at wikis that use FlaggedRevs (also known as "Pending Changes") may notice that the indicators at the top of articles have changed. This change makes the system more consistent with the rest of the MediaWiki interface. [27]
Bugs status
- Editors who use the 2010 wikitext editor, and use the Character Insert buttons, will no longer experience problems with the buttons adding content into the edit-summary instead of the edit-window. You can read more about that, and 26 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Project updates
- Please review and vote on Focus Areas, which are groups of wishes that share a problem. Focus Areas were created for the newly reopened Community Wishlist, which is now open year-round for submissions. The first batch of focus areas are specific to moderator workflows, around welcoming newcomers, minimizing repetitive tasks, and prioritizing tasks. Once volunteers have reviewed and voted on focus areas, the Foundation will then review and select focus areas for prioritization.
- Do you have a project and are willing to provide a three (3) month mentorship for an intern? Outreachy is a twice a year program for people to participate in a paid internship that will start in December 2024 and end in early March 2025, and they need mentors and projects to work on. Projects can be focused on coding or non-coding (design, documentation, translation, research). See the Outreachy page for more details, and a list of past projects since 2013.
Learn more
- If you're curious about the product and technology improvements made by the Wikimedia Foundation last year, read this recent highlights summary on Diff.
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Community Configuration - Shaping On-Wiki Functionality Together (55 mins) - about the Community Configuration project.
- Future of MediaWiki. A sustainable platform to support a collaborative user base and billions of page views (30 mins) - an overview for both technical and non technical audiences, covering some of the challenges and open questions, related to the platform evolution, stewardship and developer experiences research.
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MediaWiki message delivery 20:29, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Regarding Sul Kyung-gu’s page
Hello. My edits to Sul Kyung-gu’s article have been reverted as soon as published despite me only correcting it. I know the reasoning is because it must match the articles name but I do not have permission to change that, and if you do, please do. Sul is his family name, spelled out by him, confirming it’s even on his passport, and his agency, media outlets and streaming services all use Sul. Sol is an outdated version of the name that misleads people. I have also seen Im Siwan’s page not match the title for he’s referred as Yim despite the title being Im, so I didn’t understand the decision of reverting my edits here. Thank you and I hope this can get resolved. Ku9979 (talk) 11:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Ku9979 Please read WP:RSPM for instructions on how to start a requested page move discussion. For Im Siwan, I had proceeded to revert such changes also, similarly the same instructions applies if you also wish to move this article. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:31, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I see, thank you for the clarification, I was not clear with that. Have a nice day. Ku9979 (talk) 18:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
Tech News: 2024-36
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- Editors and volunteer developers interested in data visualisation can now test the new software for charts. Its early version is available on beta Commons and beta Wikipedia. This is an important milestone before making charts available on regular wikis. You can read more about this project update and help to test the charts.
Feature news
- Editors who use the Special:UnusedTemplates page can now filter out pages which are expected to be there permanently, such as sandboxes, test-cases, and templates that are always substituted. Editors can add the new magic word
__EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__
to a template page to hide it from the listing. Thanks to Sophivorus and DannyS712 for these improvements. [28] - Editors who use the New Topic tool on discussion pages, will now be reminded to add a section header, which should help reduce the quantity of newcomers who add sections without a header. You can read more about that, and 28 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
- Last week, some Toolforge tools had occasional connection problems. The cause is still being investigated, but the problems have been resolved for now. [29]
- Translation administrators at multilingual wikis, when editing multiple translation units, can now easily mark which changes require updates to the translation. This is possible with the new dropdown menu.
Project updates
- A new draft text of a policy discussing the use of Wikimedia's APIs has been published on Meta-Wiki. The draft text does not reflect a change in policy around the APIs; instead, it is an attempt to codify existing API rules. Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome on the proposed update’s talk page until September 13 or until those discussions have concluded.
Learn more
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Charts, the successor of Graphs - A secure and extensible tool for data visualization (25 mins) – about the above-mentioned Charts project.
- State of Language Technology and Onboarding at Wikimedia (90 mins) – about some of the language tools that support Wikimedia sites, such as Content/Section Translation, MinT, and LanguageConverter; also the current state and future of languages onboarding. [30]
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MediaWiki message delivery 01:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 4 September 2024
- News and notes: WikiCup enters final round, MCDC wraps up activities, 17-year-old hoax article unmasked
- In the media: AI is not playing games anymore. Is Wikipedia ready?
- News from the WMF: Meet the 12 candidates running in the WMF Board of Trustees election
- Wikimania: A month after Wikimania 2024
- Serendipity: What it's like to be Wikimedian of the Year
- Traffic report: After the gold rush
Tech News: 2024-37
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Feature news
- Starting this week, the standard syntax highlighter will receive new colors that make them compatible in dark mode. This is the first of many changes to come as part of a major upgrade to syntax highlighting. You can learn more about what's to come on the help page. [31][32]
- Editors of wikis using Wikidata will now be notified of only relevant Wikidata changes in their watchlist. This is because the Lua functions
entity:getSitelink()
andmw.wikibase.getSitelink(qid)
will have their logic unified for tracking different aspects of sitelinks to reduce junk notifications from inconsistent sitelinks tracking. [33]
Project updates
- Users of all Wikis will have access to Wikimedia sites as read-only for a few minutes on September 25, starting at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [34]
- Contributors of 11 Wikipedias, including English will have a new
MOS
namespace added to their Wikipedias. This improvement ensures that links beginning withMOS:
(usually shortcuts to the Manual of Style) are not broken by Mooré Wikipedia (language codemos
). [35]
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MediaWiki message delivery 18:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Using script
I tried using your script on several articles but on the changes, but it keeps saying there are no differences. I'm wondering if I might be doing something wrong. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 04:58, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy This is most likely because the article has been ran through the scripts previously hence unless there are new changes between then and now, for example, infobox's syntax spacing mismatch, new references with incorrect date formatting or spacing between pipes, etc, otherwise the script won't actually make any changes. If the preceding scenario doesn't apply for your case, kindly provide the articles to debug further. Thanks! — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Could you please clarify what you mean by "debug further"? Also, how long do you expect it might take? Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 05:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy I meant that you need to provide me the article affected (i.e. where the script isn't working) on so I can go test and investigate further on my end. As I have a day job, it may take around 1-3 days depending on my availability after work. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:40, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I tried it on this article: Bobby Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 07:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy I'm able to get it working. Do you happened to be using 2017 wikitext editor when trying to use the script? User scripts (including mine) that interacts with the wikitext syntax only works with the 2010 wikitext editor. Assuming that you're using the default Vector 2022 skin, the URL in the browser's address should be for example
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bobby_%28rapper%29&veaction=editsource
for the 2017 wikitext editor when in edit mode. To switch to the 2010 wikitext editor, you need to change the URL tohttps://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bobby_%28rapper%29&veaction=editsource&action=submit
by adding&action=submit
to the end of the URL. Now that you're in the 2010 wikitext editor, you should be able to see 3 links (Formatter/Tagger, Tagger, and Settings) on the right sidebar to use my script. - If you don't wish to add
&action=submit
every time that you wish to use any user scripts that interacts with the wikitext syntax, you can create a new browser's bookmark with the below JavaScript that onclick, would reload the article into 2010 wikitext editor's editing mode. javascript:void function(){javascript:(()=>{if("en.wikipedia.org"==window.location.hostname){const a=new URLSearchParams(window.location.search);a.has("action")%3F"edit"==a.get("action")%26%26a.set("action","submit"):a.set("action","submit"),window.location.search=a.toString()}})()}();
— Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:43, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy I'm able to get it working. Do you happened to be using 2017 wikitext editor when trying to use the script? User scripts (including mine) that interacts with the wikitext syntax only works with the 2010 wikitext editor. Assuming that you're using the default Vector 2022 skin, the URL in the browser's address should be for example
- I tried it on this article: Bobby Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 07:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy I meant that you need to provide me the article affected (i.e. where the script isn't working) on so I can go test and investigate further on my end. As I have a day job, it may take around 1-3 days depending on my availability after work. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:40, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Could you please clarify what you mean by "debug further"? Also, how long do you expect it might take? Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 05:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
NOMAD article
Hi there, if you have time would you mind to take a look at NOMAD (South Korean group)'s article? It has been seven months since it was created, and yet it's still not marked as reviewed. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 18:55, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 12:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-38
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Improvements and Maintenance
- Editors interested in templates can help by reading the latest Wishlist focus area, Template recall and discovery, and share your feedback on the talkpage. This input helps the Community Tech team to decide the right technical approach to build. Everyone is also encouraged to continue adding new wishes.
- The new automated Special:NamespaceInfo page helps editors understand which namespaces exist on each wiki, and some details about how they are configured. Thanks to DannyS712 for these improvements. [36]
- References Check is a feature that encourages editors to add a citation when they add a new paragraph to a Wikipedia article. For a short time, the corresponding tag "Edit Check (references) activated" was erroneously being applied to some edits outside of the main namespace. This has been fixed. [37]
- It is now possible for a wiki community to change the order in which a page’s categories are displayed on their wiki. By default, categories are displayed in the order they appear in the wikitext. Now, wikis with a consensus to do so can request a configuration change to display them in alphabetical order. [38]
- Tool authors can now access ToolsDB's public databases from both Quarry and Superset. Those databases have always been accessible to every Toolforge user, but they are now more broadly accessible, as Quarry can be accessed by anyone with a Wikimedia account. In addition, Quarry's internal database can now be queried from Quarry itself. This database contains information about all queries that are being run and starred by users in Quarry. This information was already public through the web interface, but you can now query it using SQL. You can read more about that, and 20 other community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
- Any pages or tools that still use the very old CSS classes
mw-message-box
need to be updated. These old classes will be removed next week or soon afterwards. Editors can use a global-search to determine what needs to be changed. It is possible to use the newercdx-message
group of classes as a replacement (see the relevant Codex documentation, and an example update), but using locally defined onwiki classes would be best. [39]
Technical project updates
- Next week, all Wikimedia wikis will be read-only for a few minutes. This will start on September 25 at 15:00 UTC. This is a planned datacenter switchover for maintenance purposes. This maintenance process also targets other services. The previous switchover took 3 minutes, and the Site Reliability Engineering teams use many tools to make sure that this essential maintenance work happens as quickly as possible. [40]
Tech in depth
- The latest monthly MediaWiki Product Insights newsletter is available. This edition includes details about: research about hook handlers to help simplify development, research about performance improvements, work to improve the REST API for end-users, and more.
- To learn more about the technology behind the Wikimedia projects, you can now watch sessions from the technology track at Wikimania 2024 on Commons. This week, check out:
- Hackathon Showcase (45 mins) - 19 short presentations by some of the Hackathon participants, describing some of the projects they worked on, such as automated testing of maintenance scripts, a video-cutting command line tool, and interface improvements for various tools. There are more details and links available in the Phabricator task.
- Co-Creating a Sustainable Future for the Toolforge Ecosystem (40 mins) - a roundtable discussion for tool-maintainers, users, and supporters of Toolforge about how to make the platform sustainable and how to evaluate the tools available there.
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:59, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
WP:RMRELIST
FYI: nothing in the guidelines at WP:RMRELIST states that an editor needs to be an administrator or page mover be allowed to relist a requested move. I relisted the move at Talk:NCT (group) because the 7 days had elapsed with little to no discussion or engagement on the moves. RachelTensions (talk) 16:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @RachelTensions I also missed out another pointer, you're also the nominator. In fact, something in the guidelines at WP:RMRELIST which you linked stated "
The decision to relist a discussion is best left to uninvolved experienced editors upon considering, but declining, to close the discussion
", you're considered involved in the discussion as a nominator. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)- @Paper9oll "It's best" is not "must" :) Relisting my own nomination to generate further discussion because it sat for a week without any discussion is not a cardinal sin. RachelTensions (talk) 16:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @RachelTensions Read WP:RMCLOSE, specifically WP:RMCIDC where "relisting" is part of RMCLOSE which explicitly stated uninvolved editor may close a move request and/or relist the discussion, this is part of the closer's determining whether there is consensus. You being involved as a nominator trying to performed WP:RMCLOSE procedure in the form of determining consensus and coming to an conclusion by relisting isn't correct. Also there's no WP:DEADLINE, if the closer's determines the RM is suitable for closing and/or relisting, they will perform it themselves, you as a nominator doesn't need to do so. In addition, there is a queue for such at WP:RMCD hence there isn't any need to fear "
because it sat for a week without any discussion
" for your own nomination. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 16:37, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @RachelTensions Read WP:RMCLOSE, specifically WP:RMCIDC where "relisting" is part of RMCLOSE which explicitly stated uninvolved editor may close a move request and/or relist the discussion, this is part of the closer's determining whether there is consensus. You being involved as a nominator trying to performed WP:RMCLOSE procedure in the form of determining consensus and coming to an conclusion by relisting isn't correct. Also there's no WP:DEADLINE, if the closer's determines the RM is suitable for closing and/or relisting, they will perform it themselves, you as a nominator doesn't need to do so. In addition, there is a queue for such at WP:RMCD hence there isn't any need to fear "
- @Paper9oll "It's best" is not "must" :) Relisting my own nomination to generate further discussion because it sat for a week without any discussion is not a cardinal sin. RachelTensions (talk) 16:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-39
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on Wednesday September 25 at 15:00 UTC. Reading the wikis will not be interrupted, but editing will be paused. These twice-yearly processes allow WMF's site reliability engineering teams to remain prepared to keep the wikis functioning even in the event of a major interruption to one of our data centers.
Updates for editors
- Editors who use the iOS Wikipedia app in Spanish, Portuguese, French, or Chinese, may see the Alt Text suggested-edit experiment after editing an article, or completing a suggested edit using "Add an image". Alt-text helps people with visual impairments to read Wikipedia articles. The team aims to learn if adding alt-text to images is a task that editors can be successful with. Please share any feedback on the discussion page.
- The Codex color palette has been updated with new and revised colors for the MediaWiki user interfaces. The most noticeable changes for editors include updates for: dark mode colors for Links and for quiet Buttons (progressive and destructive), visited Link colors for both light and dark modes, and background colors for system-messages in both light and dark modes.
- It is now possible to include clickable wikilinks and external links inside code blocks. This includes links that are used within
<syntaxhighlight>
tags and on code pages (JavaScript, CSS, Scribunto and Sanitized CSS). Uses of template syntax{{…}}
are also linked to the template page. Thanks to SD0001 for these improvements. [41] - Two bugs were fixed in the GlobalVanishRequest system by improving the logging and by removing an incorrect placeholder message. [42][43]
- View all 25 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week.
Updates for technical contributors
- From Wikimedia Enterprise:
- The API now enables 5,000 on-demand API requests per month and twice-monthly HTML snapshots freely (gratis and libre). More information on the updates and also improvements to the software development kits (SDK) are explained on the project's blog post. While Wikimedia Enterprise APIs are designed for high-volume commercial reusers, this change enables many more community use-cases to be built on the service too.
- The Snapshot API (html dumps) have added beta Structured Contents endpoints (blog post on that) as well as released two beta datasets (English and French Wikipedia) from that endpoint to Hugging Face for public use and feedback (blog post on that). These pre-parsed data sets enable new options for researchers, developers, and data scientists to use and study the content.
In depth
- The Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) is used to get answers to questions using the Wikidata data set. As Wikidata grows, we had to make a major architectural change so that WDQS could remain performant. As part of the WDQS Graph Split project, we have new SPARQL endpoints available for serving the "scholarly" and "main" subgraphs of Wikidata. The query.wikidata.org endpoint will continue to serve the full Wikidata graph until March 2025. After this date, it will only serve the main graph. For more information, please see the announcement on Wikidata.
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 26 September 2024
- In the media: Courts order Wikipedia to give up names of editors, legal strain anticipated from "online safety laws"
- Community view: Indian courts order Wikipedia to take down name of crime victim, editors strive towards consensus
- Serendipity: A Wikipedian at the 2024 Paralympics
- Opinion: asilvering's RfA debriefing
- News and notes: Are you ready for admin elections?
- Recent research: Article-writing AI is less "prone to reasoning errors (or hallucinations)" than human Wikipedia editors
- Traffic report: Jump in the line, rock your body in time
Remove redirect
Hello, there is a redirect with the name "The Kind Mr. Seon Ju" linked to the page "List of programs broadcast by MBC TV". There was already a page named "The Kind Miss Seon-joo" (which is the correct title of an upcoming drama on MBC). Please remove the redirect "The Kind Mr. Seon Ju" because it is an incorrect title and isn't linked to any existed pages. Thank you so much! Marchrain13 (talk) 09:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marchrain13 Done, you can do this method moving forward. Thanks and regards, — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 09:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Reliable source discussion
Do you mind providing comments on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources about reliable sources? I found the current source list lackluster and have suggested more over there, but that talk page is not very active. I do not know many people who can analyze the Korean-language sources. Emiya Mulzomdao (talk) 11:31, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
NewJeans subsection of Hybe
Could you help clean up and summarize the issue with Hybe? I already pointed out to Cinemaandpolitics that it's a case of WP:TOOMUCH, but it seems they haven't taken any action on it. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 18:11, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Btspurplegalaxy As NewJeans as one of the articles on my WP:WATCHLIST, I was already awared of that discussion from the get go and has been following its progress. I don't see the need to WP:INVOLVED myself into that discussion at that talk page currently since the responses from various INVOLVED editors in that same discussion there already aligns with my thoughts. While, I do agreed that the disputed section is currently WP:COATRACK. I've been brainstorming for quite a while on how to effectively trim away the COATRACKing and considering the ever expanding COATRACKing, this has made the brainstorming even harder hence why I haven't INVOLVED myself by taking any editing actions to the disputed section yet. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 18:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 20:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC)