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I didn't see that coming

I discovered Mocha today because I have Wikipedia:Press coverage 2018 on my watchlist, but I have edited Kellyanne Conway a little. Have a nice weekend! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:18, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

You too! Cheers! -Object404 (talk) 19:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello again! Thanks for adding to Press Coverage, I've taken an interest in that page. I'd like to remove "Powerful falsehoods"[1], since it only mentions WP, it's not "about Wikipedia itself". I've argued for this scope on the talkpage and have in the past removed articles like [2]. Are you ok with removing it? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:49, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead, it's okay. -Object404 (talk) 07:10, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Opposition lawmakers in the House of Representatives were not aroused by Uson’s video.

Is this a common problem in the House of Representatives? ;-) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:21, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Hahah! Will have to go clean up parts of the article when I get the time. -Object404 (talk) 14:32, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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Changed phrasing. Please see Mocha Uson Talk Page. Also, I have not been sufficiently warned. As you can see, no one has been able to list examples in the article under the section "Libelous tone" of the subject's talk page. -Object404 (talk) 08:03, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

You're right, I apologize for the escalated warning. It should've been less severe seeing as I posted the first one on the article's talk page and not on yours. Anyway, that should do. Thank you for revising to keep the tone neutral. Rreginald1 (talk) 11:30, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

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I just realized, this is long overdue.

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		Object404, I award you this Philippine Barnstar for helping protect the Ferdinand Marcos wiki page from historical negationism and vandalism. -- Chieharumachi (talk) 03:03, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

TE Marcos article

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Re-adding wealth text that failed verification. Do not re-add without providing evidence it is in the sources. I cannot find it in any of the sources you have listed, and the sources you suggested on the talk page are junk. You can respond to this on the article's talk page, there is a already a discussion there Jtbobwaysf (talk) 13:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Have you read the following books, because they are the sources in question: If not, then you are disruptively deleting content from a Wikipedia article.-Object404 (talk) 15:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

So. You are caught deleting content and citations claiming "failed verification" when you did not even read and verify the contents of the citations. This is dishonest and disruptive editing on your part, @Jtbobwaysf:. -Object404 (talk) 11:31, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

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Neutrality dispute

Hello, it seems that we have disputes regarding putting a "neutrality dispute template" on the page Ferdinand Marcos. I understand that you're trying to revert edits regarding POV, I'm just wondering why you think that this article is neutral even though it definitely requires an extensive check.

Regarding my "recent entry" and my "inexperience", no, I am not new to Wikipedia, I had an other account before that I forgot the username and password a long time ago. Plus, I think that 'good faith' should be executed here, I am not vandalizing but instead trying to push for neutrality in the article regarding the controversial person Ferdinand Marcos.

If this dispute doesn't get resolved, we'll just let the administrators settle the neutrality of the article on the NPOV noticeboard. I see that you had a history of edit warring and calls in noticeboards before, I won't call you out for it but I think we should settle the neutrality of the article not by edit warring but with professional talk.

With regards, PyroFloe (talk) 05:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

As per WP:UNDUE, "Neutrality requires that each article or other page in the mainspace fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources. Giving due weight and avoiding giving undue weight means articles should not give minority views or aspects as much of or as detailed a description as more widely held views or widely supported aspects." That you are seeing largely 'negative" content about the subject in the article is simply a function of the type of coverage the subject has gotten by published reliable sourcess.

Again, the "negative" coverage of Marcos is the majority view documented by reliable and historical sources, it is simply this reason why there is a perceived skew of "negative" coverage of the subject in the article. Feel free to add "positive" content, but make sure they are backed up by non-fringe reliable sources. as per WP:FALSEBALANCE which I keep mentioning: "While it is important to account for all significant viewpoints on any topic, Wikipedia policy does not state or imply that every minority view or extraordinary claim needs to be presented along with commonly accepted mainstream scholarship as if they were of equal validity." If you are proposing that there be equal amounts of "positive" and "negative" content on the article about the subject, then no, that is not the definition of Neutrality is within the bounds of Wikipedia editing. What you are proposing is FALSEBALANCE. -Object404 (talk) 10:47, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Also, does putting "kleptocrat" in the lead section a good sign, plus over citations? I think it should be put in the middle section, along with the multiple repetitions that should either be rephrased or merged into one paragraph. I'm not a Marcos apologist, see good faith in me as such as I like democracy more than authoritarianism. We are settling the neutrality of the article, I believe that he is a corrupt individual but we must see both sides of the issue.

With regards, PyroFloe (talk) 05:47, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

No, kleptocracy is the defining hallmark of Ferdinand Marcos, along with his opulent extravagance and human rights abuses. Ferdinand Marcos is extremely famous and known all over the world for holding the Guinness World Record for most money stolen from a government. As such, the word is exactly where it belongs, in the lede. -Object404 (talk) 10:52, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you. I am aware that User:Azuresky Voight is engaging in an edit war with me and do not wish to engage in such and I informed him on his talk page prior to your pinging me. I am currently discussing relevant content on talk pages and I hope to resolve these subjects amicably. -Object404 (talk) 12:35, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Well Azuresky Voight is now banned from the topic of living people so they will not be able to discuss it with you further. Thank you for taking it to the talk page. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 12:51, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

@HighInBC: Question: would it be alright over the next few days for me to go over the RJ Nieto page and go over the large swathes of content that Azuresky Voight deleted, carefully see which do not violate WP:BLP, and restore them as appropriate or fix them if they do? Azuresky Voight deleted large chunks of content on that article claiming violations of BLP policies, when in fact a good amount of the content he deleted do not. Regards, -Object404 (talk) 13:52, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes. You should wait a full 24 hours since your last revert, and mention what you are doing on the talk page. As you say take care of BLP. If another editor has a problem of course stop and discuss. Azuresky did not seem to grasp the nuances of our BLP policy. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 23:12, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

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After taking a second look at the evidence involved here, I have unblocked. Further reading of the evidence raised a few questions about its reliability, and the person who sent the ticket in clearly had an axe to grind, so I'm questioning its reliability even more. This is entirely my fault; I was too quick to block and did not evaluate the evidence with a sufficiently critical eye. All I can say is that I am sorry for acting so hastily. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:41, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. I have never engaged in paid editing on Wikipedia nor am I aware of any conflict of interest in my editing. Regards, -Object404 (talk) 01:50, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

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you can find the information elsewhere now

https://list.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_games_with_EAX_support is where I exported it to. You could probably put it on the gaming fandom, or find a retro gaming forum, or whatever else this is used for. Just look around and see what's there. Even make your own if you want. Dream Focus 05:29, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! -Object404 (talk) 08:33, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

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suggestions Sabina Shoal‎

Know you feel strongly and have thanked me for other advice. Was looking at your recent edits and decided that others will likely act so some suggestions to mitigate risk of your useful contributions not being changed. Consider moving EEZ of Philippines statement to later in narrative. The lead to a geographical article can certainly mention a dispute exists but should be concise. The EEZ should ideally be mentioned later once the average reader understands why the shoal is notable. Stating that it is in the EEZ of Philippines is not why its notable as opposed to why some of those involved in the dispute think the recent actions of another party to the dispute makes it more notable. The subsection name "Ramming Incidents" is fine as far as I am concerned but you changed struck to rammed when this had already been used wrt to 19th August incident. Its more readable English to use alternative phraseology rather than labour a point already headlined. Better to draw the reader to their own conclusions having established that most commentators think these were deliberate actions, and draw the reader into the repetitive pattern. Remember WP:NOTNEWS so best to be vague if this can be expressed in simple English when using own words, rather than those of commentators while waiting to have all facts established. ChaseKiwi (talk) 15:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. It's actually quite notable that it lies within the EEZ of the Philippines as it is now a potential flashpoint in the South China Sea for potential US-China conflict. See this 60 Minutes 13-minute documentary. -Object404 (talk) 16:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

I am also aware about word redundancy in English style guides, but the August 19 and 31 incidents are separate incidents. "Rammed" is fine, as "struck" is repeated a couple of times for variety afterwards. Also the usage of "rammed" is in keeping with the subheading. Moreover, the words struck and rammed have different connotations. -Object404 (talk) 16:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes whatever. Previous editors had chosen these styles who seem to have a good history of contributions that tend to stand the test of time. I will forgo the documentary as a greater priority of the moment for me is reading a translation of the Saxon Chronicle for the first time as another editor may have shaded a less contentious article by using a secondary source and not checking back on the primary source themselves. ChaseKiwi (talk) 19:00, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Sabina Shoal

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I have been backing up the items I put in the article with citations. You keep removing items from the article under the claim "cherry picking", but is actually a form of POV-pushing by omission. -Object404 (talk) 19:55, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for the reminder, but I had already taken things to the talk page after the reverts to collaborate and reach consensus. -Object404 (talk) 09:39, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

You're a reasonable person please just withdraw all the media provided by the Philippine Coast Guard from the article Sabina Shoal. STSC (talk) 11:51, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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