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October 2023

This is your only warning; if you violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory content into an article or any other Wikipedia page again, as you did at Mohammed Deif, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 14:39, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please can you explain on how better should I add that he is considered as a terrorist by many?

Asking genuinely :) Nowhere of things (talk) 14:47, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit reversion

In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rawhi Mushtaha

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Contested speedy deletion. Please review. Nowhere of things (talk) 18:39, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The entirety of the article was originally copied verbatim. Altering it still results in a derivative work and remains a copyright violation as the original source is copyrighted. You must write the article in your own words from the start. See the message below for more information about Wikipedia's copyright policy and guidelines. -- Whpq (talk) 00:52, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear whpq, I ask you to please reverse deletion. There was no copyright violation as the information provided was open source and paraphrased and due to the nature of having limited data on the person apart from given sources, due to the person's militant nature, changing the article too much would have been a misrepresentation of reality as most people may understand it.

Please review, and if possible propose alternative text. Request of deletion this fast even after express contention seems to be a bit politically charged.

Thank you! Nowhere of things (talk) 12:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Open source does not mean it can be copied to Wikipedia. See WP:COMPLIC for a list of compatible copyright licenses. Close paraphrasing, as you did, still counts as a copyright violation, you have to rewrite in your own words. If there's not enough information on the person, then that might mean that person is not notable enough for an article. Consider adding him to an existing article instead. This request for deletion was in no way politically motivated. Your article was found during routine new page patrolling, and copyright problems can be immediately tagged, without waiting the usual 1 hour grace period for new articles. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:37, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article from which you copied the material has no indication that it is open source. Even if it were open source, that does not mean it is license compatible with Wikipedia. I saw no statement indicating open source, and no statement providing a license that is acceptable to Wikipedia. Material is copyright by default. I cannot restore copyright violations. -- Whpq (talk) 17:41, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Muhammad Hisham Muhammad Isma’il Abu Ghazala

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Speedy deletion nomination of Abu Anas al-Ghandour

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Dear Dan,

Please revoke this deletion request. Page has been modified. If you'd like to add to it, instead of taking away the work put in it please indicate directly on the talk page that it needs to be modified.

Now, its form it should not be considered as a copyright violation.

Please confirm receipt of this message. Nowhere of things (talk) 12:51, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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this hasn't been reacted to, and a modification was done. Furthermore, the same reasoning used elsewhere was declined (copyright), as the information used was not copyrighted.

Please can you help? Nowhere of things (talk) 15:16, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The page was deleted by ToBeFree per WP:G5 and WP:A/I/PIA; it was not deleted as a copyright infringement.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That wasn't the original indication. I understand that this was an issue elsewhere too though. Nowhere of things (talk) 16:19, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry, I hadn't noticed that this was about one of the pages I had deleted, or I might have answered this. The administrator Spicy had seen the deletion request and declined it with the following edit summary:

Thus, while the page was indeed deleted, your statement that it "should not be considered as a copyright violation" appears to be correct. Sorry for the confusion caused by me deleting it without answering the message above. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:21, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Nowhere of things, your recent contributions seem to be incompatible with the "500 edits" restriction mentioned above. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:02, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Please revert this deletion. I was not notified of being sanctioned, and this was a legitimate creation of work. I have put hours into this and did not receive warning! The creation was legit. @ToBeFree Nowhere of things (talk) 19:23, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere of things, I'm not blaming you for not knowing about this restriction, but I won't restore the page either. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:35, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ToBeFree, I have appealed the decision. I don't think that in this case it was appropriate, and that WP:A/I/PIA rules apply, since the creation was of good faith, and was legitimate. If one is an expert in a hot topic, but has no edits, how one can achieve the 500 edits before in order to use their expertise for the benefit of manking? It doesn't make sense. Nowhere of things (talk) 19:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Task Center and the community portal are full of constructive ideas unrelated to this topic area. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:45, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You still haven't addressed the issue WP:G5: ? Can you help clarify that please? Nowhere of things (talk) 13:06, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Non-extended-confirmed users are banned from editing about the Arab-Israeli conflict directly (WP:A/I/PIA), and your page creation was a violation of that ban – you didn't know about it, but this isn't a requirement for page deletion. WP:ARBECR explicitly allows the deletion of such pages, WP:G5 arguably does too. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:22, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand. Once I get the 500 edits, can I ask you to revoke the deletion? Nowhere of things (talk) 15:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would probably either restore the page or provide the text of the deleted page to you so you could create it again, yes. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:29, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Will be in touch here. Nowhere of things (talk) 15:30, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have reached a global edit count of 500. Because my native tongue is Hungarian, most edits were done there. Or it has to be in one language? Nowhere of things (talk) 14:37, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Nowhere of things: Hi, it has to be on one language. English, in this case. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your answer. Just to clarify, I have to have 500 in one language. Or 500 in English? Thanks again. Nowhere of things (talk) 17:51, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

500 edits on a single Wikipedia, so in this case, English. You can check how many you currently have on the English Wikipedia by going to Special:Contributions/Nowhere of things. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:55, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, and really not trying to not pick here, but what you are saying is that for me to edit in English these topics, I need 500 edits in English? Reason I am asking, is because I have started a whole project, that was then erased based on this rule, and I want to restart it as soon as possible.

Thanks again! Nowhere of things (talk) 19:26, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

500 edits on the site where the url starts with en.wikipedia.org. Since this is the English wikipedia, and (I believe) you want the extended confirmed level on the English wikipedia, yes in English. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:50, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Muhammad Hisham Muhammad Isma’il Abu Ghazala

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Thank you! Once I'll have a chance to review it, I'll make sure to do so. :) Nowhere of things (talk) 17:47, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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