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JSR's edits
JSR's edit was to removing the sourced information, thus a vadalism, I don't see how a complete re-written would make a different, different scholar's opiinons are to be included anyway. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 21:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
You can believe JSR for all you like, that's your personal bais towards him. See the article talk page for my reply. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 21:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- As for: Doesn't matter, it doesn't change a thing, I provide another scholar source: He's simply lying. He has reverted thrice to the exact same content the he has been pushing all along. No new sources, scholars or text. He neither has the source, nor has he read it, and neither does his source deal in any manner with surgery—on which he likes to edit and push POV. Childish cries of 'believing' and 'bias' are disruptive for those who have warned him before and have even thanked him for taking it easy once and are his way of defending things but vandalism remains vandalism. Saying "Doesn't matter, it doesn't change a thing, I provide another scholar source" after previous promises of refraining from vandalism ("I did not meant it, please forgive me once!") mean that the ditor is used to it. JSR (talk) 21:39, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
What a prick, don't act like an matured 'adult' (even if you're old) when you have neither the guts nor intelligent to speak up. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 22:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I appreciate the humor and am seriously amused but here's the thing: An editor who simply reverts everything I write (whether its on an article on surgery or his talk page) has for some reason held an entire article hostage and is taking his sweet time to write one line replies (he takes a nano second to undo what I write on his talk page. Is that allowed?) while I'm waking at 4 AM with work tomorrow and making spelling mistakes due to exhaustion. Only on Wikipedia :) Is talking like that allowed BTW? JSR (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I revert your removal not edits, what edits you made had revert by me? Shown me. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 22:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't care what time you work tomorrow, I have my own life too, so is on your burden besides lying on this page. Get used to it. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 22:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Lets see: revert 1, revert 2, and a claimed 'move' which is actually a delete. More questions, Anpersonalaccount.JSR (talk) 22:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
So what? Do you know that 3RR rules doesn't even cover user talk page? If you indend to discuss the matter you should had been discussing on article talk page and take it seriously. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 22:44, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I presume that he did it because he doesn't want people to know that he engaes in vandalism. Can I remove those lines now? Anpersonalaccount is just posting here on this talk page when talk:Sushruta needs replies from him which he doesn't seem to have. JSR (talk) 22:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Lol, you're very funny, I did it because you're annoying that's why, not because I wanna cover up my ass. There is nothing for me to hide. As for I engaes in vandalism, shown me again. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 22:48, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Nish, keep me posted on the FAC in terms of how you want to proceed; I know you're trying to get your hands on some additional sources. Of course, it would be better if the French editor would come on board to help, but he too seems to have misunderstand WP:V policy and comments about reliability of Wiki as a source. We need to overcome 1) translation concerns, 2) sourcing concerns (including some English language issues that surfaced) and 3) comprehensive concerns. If you think you can do that, I'll continue to leave it open. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Cla case
The PD page says 9 active arbs but the PD talk page says 8. You need to figure out which is correct. The required majority is still 5 though, but the numbers need to be right. — Rlevse • Talk • 03:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
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ORISSA COMMUNAL VIOLENCE
Orissa violence is merely clashes between missionaries and converted Christians clashing with Hindus. There is nothing ethnic about it.
Jobxavier (talk) 21:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
RELIGION-BASED VIOLENCE
The population of Orissa practise many religions; not Hinduism or Christianity alone. However, only Christians and Hindus fight and kill each other.
It is as such only 'Christian - Hindu clashes'; not religious violence in Orissa. And the issue is not religion; it is allurement-based conversions and benefits of affirmative action, that cause the clashes; as the Page itself says.
Jobxavier (talk) 22:37, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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My RfA
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On disruptions by new user
Nish, I'm crying 'bias' now. My edits are being reverted and I just spent the night arguing with someone who wrote that I did it because you're annoying. Is there really no procedure for obvious vandalism (content misrepresentation, foul language, POV pushing, revert warring with the same content, verbal abuses, talk page blanking, vandalizing edits made by other people, and disruptive behavior) on Wikipedia? I want to continue editing here without vandals disrupting me.
Regards,
JSR (talk) 23:57, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh by the way, you're the one who failed to accept a source for the sake of your dislike, so don't blame on me. Btw, I don't think that your label as other's as vandal is vaild either. So Nish you should provide him a warning just like what you did over my talk page eariler. You can't continue editing Wikipedia, simply because you lack the will to accept a source nor the time you had to do so. My advice to you is to quit removing source for no reason, and stop acting like a profession because you obviously ain't. Oh and next time, don't bother to tell me that your boss had fired you because you engaged an editing war with some new user over the Wikipedia. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 00:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I starting to think that JSR dont even bother to handle the matter seriously, just take a look at what he was writing, I can't let anyone attack an article for whatever level of experience one has, He neither has the source, nor has he read it, Childish cries of 'believing' and 'bias' are disruptive, thanked him for taking it easy once are his way of defending things but vandalism remains vandalism, an entire article hostage and is taking his sweet time to write one line replies, I'm crying 'bias' now, are those the things I should accept? Tell me. Anpersonalaccount (talk) 01:02, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- After much trolling, user: Anpersonalaccount was blocked. He continued to undo edits made by other people on the only place he could, his talk page. [1][2] :) JSR (talk) 07:51, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry if I have been troubling you in the recent past. As far as I'm concerned I called a spade a spade but will refrain once his block expires (I'm not sure his fascination with me is about to end though). This was my first dealing with an uncivil person on Wikipedia and I was under stress, exhaustion, and frankly irritation while dealing with him. I hope I have not soured things too much. JSR (talk) 20:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out but that's not really the heart of the issue. The heart of the issue is why does he revert war and become uncivil to those who have been more than amicable to him? Following his block I placed a message on his page and that's when he even reverted that message. My comments are meant more to highlight his general pattern than to keep my message on his talk page. Thanks and regards, JSR (talk) 06:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I am currently busy with my work, but just for a note. I had face those who were more amicable than you, frankly I not interested in them. Your "amicable“ isn't the reason for me to be uncivil with you, even though a Tamil nationalist like you does makes me feel annoying, is more on the soft language you used on an admin talk page and the wrongly assuming as well, but that's your own general pattern. I think the heart of the issue was that I am unable to provide more ref in the meantime, however I still would try, given if I had more time on Wikipedia. Thanks Anpersonalaccount (talk) 08:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
- Replied to here. JSR (talk) 08:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
rense
hey fella.
noticed that you were the last to edit jeff_rense page.
i don't care either way for opinions expressed... but just wanted to say that www.rense.com has disappeared from global dns and cant be accessed. wanted to add this to the wikipedia page as its hard to find information about.
its a 'hot' topic i know but is a bit odd that vanished.
freedom of speech and all that.
Farkah (talk) 20:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)farkah
Today's DYK's
Whats the deal with some of todays DYKs? DYK is supposed to be based on pure fact. The tagline for Geoffrey Ballard is clearly based on a POV "Hero" proclamation by Time magazine, not exactly a solid factually based line and the tagline for Ru Ba Bu or wahtever the Indian film is named, it syas it is the "cinematic adaption" of the "film". This looks very poor in that is clearly isn't a cinematic adaption of something as they are both cinematic media in which one would't need to be "adapted". I heard that they were tightening up regulations on DYK's but I think the regulators are focusing far too much on length of the articles or length of the tagline and referencing rather than the quality and legitimacy of the taglines themsevles. I've noticed "facts" on the front page many times recently based on POV that somebody was called a "Wonder of the Twentieth Century" etc etc and it is an easy target for the media to pick up on and to continue reporting wikipedia in a negative way in terms of neutrality. The Bald One White cat 17:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi
Didn't know you were in college (read it off a post on Nikkul's page). From the 64 part, I thought you were born in 1964, since you did undergo a serious operation some time back. =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Gabon: a Neo-Colonial Enclave of Enduring French Interest
Do you have access to this article from your university? If so, could you e-mail it to me? Your friend Eddy of the wiki[citation needed] 21:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello Nishkid !
- I caught a vandale editing the article about itself ! Here he is :
- See also the deletion review XD --Lilyu (talk) 04:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
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RfA thank you
Why did you get rid of the Carl Newman aesthetic analysis? It was well written. Any analysis like that on a classical musician wouldn't be taken down. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.74.213.161 (talk) 14:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
— JGHowes talk - 19 August 2008
Well, it has appeared on fr.wiki. Should we entirely replace your text or try to mesh the two? (Up to 1960, that is - the French version goes all the way to his death.) Either way works for me, but let's come up with a plan first. Biruitorul Talk 21:16, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me... Biruitorul Talk 23:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
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3RR block
Hi Nish, could you enforce the 3RR violation penalty upon User talk:72.81.208.215 on the article Ahmed Deedat. Cheers. Trips (talk) 12:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
My RfA
Thank you for supporting me; I passed with a count of (154/3/2). I would give you the templatespam, but I figured you're one of the few that get a handwritten-note. :-) Aside from supporting my RfA, I'd like to thank you for spending the time to coach me in the past, as I firmly believe your efforts at User:Juliancolton/Admin coaching have helped get me where I am as an administrator. Thanks again! –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 18:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
CreazySuit mentorship
I'm sure you already have this in hand, but do you suppose you could leave a message on CreazySuit's user talk page about his mentorship? It would be helpful if he knew what the "new rules" were before he gets back into editing articles. -- ChrisO (talk) 21:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- I've started to engage in conversation with CreazySuit off-wiki. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 18:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Answering your question
The AN/I thread is horribly long, and does not need any more tangents, so I will answer your question here. I helped create Wikipedia:Editing restrictions and Wikipedia:General sanctions. As a result, I am more familiar than I want to be with most of the hot spots on Wikipedia. I have a collection of methods and tools that help expedite tedious tasks like analyzing protection logs and contribution histories. I also get tips from Wikipedians via email almost daily, and keep an eye on a collection of pages that seem to be magnets for disruptive editors. For instance, search engine optimization attracts a large number of spammers. Per WP:BEANS, I don't want to reveal too many details. In this case, I was NOT canvassed by ChrisO nor Dbachmann. I found the thread and the evidence independently of them. Jehochman Talk 19:56, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I would like to solicit feedback concerning moving this to Adam Jones (football). It makes sense to me, but is there consensus? Please opine in the section of the article talk page. Cheers, Dlohcierekim's sock (talk) 20:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Yo Nish. Could you please e-mail Ceoil a copy of "Gabon: A Neo-Colonial Enclave of Enduring French Interest"? S/he is copyediting Paul Gondjout. the editorofthewiki (talk/contribs/editor review) 20:45, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
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Update from JSR
I'll be trying to bring up Indian astronomy to a fully sourced version in the near future (One-two days or sooner. I have a draft ready). If you can find time then please make sure to take a look. Also make sure to read Ayurveda; Its stable and fully sourced now. Regards, JSR (talk) 18:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Rewrite done. More work in progress. Have a look :-) JSR (talk) 21:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for fixing the PD tag at the image and leaving a note on the FAC. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 11:38, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Checkuser
Nish, congratulations on your appointment!! Welcome to the checkuser team :) - Alison ❤ 03:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Congrats. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Congrats! — Rlevse • Talk • 06:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- And from the tail end of the new additions, Congrats!! -- Avi (talk) 14:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
- Congrats! — Rlevse • Talk • 06:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Actually, congratulations doesn't even begin to describe it. You miffed your chance. Shame on you! J.delanoygabsadds 20:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Sir, user User:Srirangam99, who brings no sources to the table, has deleted large amounts of info from this FA, which I have reverted. Please do leave a warning message on his user's page to bring sources and discuss. He has tried this earlier also and faced blocks. If he continues his deletions, I will open a ANI. He is also targetting Chola Dynasty, the original reason for his multipe blocks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 11:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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Deletion review for Holiday Parade
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Holiday Parade. Since you are a member of my class at GW, I thought you may be willing to take a look for me. Baselineace (talk) 14:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
2 recently live Jarlaxle/Grawp accounts
User:Lkjhgdw and User:London in ruins. Care to exercise your awesome new powers? :) NawlinWiki (talk) 00:27, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm confused
Could you explain to me how this[3], and this[4], and this[5], and this[6] isn't edit warring? Thanks. Kansas Bear (talk) 18:42, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Two more CU requests for ResearchEditor
Nishkid, I've added two more requests to Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/ResearchEditor. Thanks for your attention.PelleSmith (talk) 22:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
for the latest RFCU on Astutescholar (talk · contribs) Toddst1 (talk) 06:57, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Hullo
Hullo, I just observed that you've blocked User:Anwar saadat. I wish to point out that I just stumbled upon this edit of his with an extremely objectionable edit summary. -RavichandarMy coffee shop 18:19, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
- No probs :-) I just wanted to bring it to your notice so that he doesn't repeat such things in the future. Thanks -RavichandarMy coffee shop 12:02, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Tenerife
Hi. Can you do the honors for the translation tagging for Tenerife? Thanks Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 21:58, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Thank You!
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| For your assistance in keeping USS New Jersey (BB-62) vandal free while the article was up on the mainpage I herby award you The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar. Keep up the good work! TomStar81 (Talk) 00:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC) |
Hey
Happy birthday! SpencerT♦C 01:09, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
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Just a happy Birthday message to you, Nishkid64/Archive 50, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! SchfiftyThree (talk!) 19:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC) |
- Hi! I visited your talkpage and found that it was your birthday yesterday. My belated wishes though :-)
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Attacks on User talk:Nancy
Can you do something about the underlying IP(s)? Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 21:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
For your FAs
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FA-Team new mission
Hi Nishkid, You've probably noticed that the FA-Team has just launched a mission to help WikiProject AP Biology 2008 and WikiProject North of the Rio Grande improve articles towards featured quality. I'm hoping you would like to join in and support a few articles, especially from the biology project. If you can, please add your name to the articles you are watchlisting on the mission page. Thanks, Geometry guy 20:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Professional translators
Hey Nish, just wondering who those professional translators are who helped you with M'ba. Of course the problem has arisen at the new 1964 Gabon FAC [rolls eyes]. ~one of many editorofthewikis (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 01:20, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- EOTW, you have to understand that featured articles are Wikipedia's best work, and as such, we have to be 100% sure that every last fact in the article is accurate, and worthy of printing in a written encyclopedia. You keep stating that the online translators only assisted your attempts at translation to English, but you also say that your understanding of French is "well, pretty bad". So the FAC reviewers should feel confident that the article is accurate without an editor fluent in French to verify such? As an aside, I am quite disappointed that you had to include "[rolls eyes]" in your comment. Scrutiny towards a nomination to be considered Wikipedia's best work is nothing to roll eyes at. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
User talk:Alex2706
Actually, I did post comments [7] and [8] to User talk:Alex2706, but they were almost immediately deleted by the user. In addition to these messages, I also posted a message to Talk:Fidel Castro, to attempt to engage the user in discussion. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 01:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Also, the reason for the simple edit summaries was that I wasn't sure if I was reverting to the version I had intended to. The pagesize was different, and so I reverted again because I wanted to get it back to the version by Lightmouse. I'm not really sure what happened, and I am nearly always very careful to avoid 3rr. It would have been nicer for everyone involved (Alex too, from the looks of things) if you had just posted a friendly message instead of blocking. Blocking to "enforce the rules" is pretty heavy-handed, and I definitely found it upsetting. I have poured a lot of thankless energy into Wikipedia, and more often than not I have to deal with (and be friendly to) people who are critical, want to push a particular POV, or (in my own field) promote some bit of original research. I get so little positive feedback that incidents like this one are particularly disheartening. I suggest that you take this to heart in the future when blocking the next hardworking Joe editor in an incident like this one. siℓℓy rabbit (talk) 02:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)