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An apology

NikTheStoned,

I apologize for all the inconvenience I have created during this last week in Amos Gitai's Wikipedia page. I realize this caused you and other Wikipedia editors trouble. I am a newly appointed assistant for Mr. Gitai. Being born to what is probably a different generation than yours and the other editors, this is the first time I am engaged in Wikipedia editing. After what happened this last week, I have sought some help from family members, and they explained to me that what I did is unsuitable with Wikipedia policies.

So once again, I am sorry for the inconvenience. There was no intent to create a clash or an argument in the page; I simply did not fully understand what was going on. I will not be adding any content to the page again, as I have been informed that due to COI it is forbidden for me to edit this page in any way.

As this is the first and the last time I have dealt with this page (or any Wikipedia page, as you can see from my actions - and even from my username), and as all the revisions I have added were reverted, I ask you to reconsider the COI declaration in the page. As far as I know there has never been any other access to the page from Mr. Gitai's team or other people close to him. In addition, and after reviewing the revision history, I see that this page was left completely static for almost a year, until this last week.

I realize my actions were incompatible with Wikipedia policies, but as I am now aware they should not be done, and as there has not been any other access to the page, I feel he should not be wrongly labeled as self-promoting - especially since these were my unwarranted actions.

Again, I apologize my misunderstanding and inexperience with Wikipedia caused everyone affiliated with this page all the trouble this last week. Of course I commit not to go anywhere near the page again.

Thank you,

Rachel H. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.110.207.39 (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Have now gone through it again removing all statements which I found promotional and as such have removed that tag. The one remaining, however, has yet to be addressed so it will have to remain. Cheers, Nikthestoned 11:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Agnes Varis

Extended content

Hi, I’m writing Agnes Varis Bio based directly as given me by her 3 trustees. This work is in progress and I will add the appropriate references as I go along. Dr. Varis has passed away this weekend and it is imperative for us to have the correct information posted. If any of that needs to be verified I can provide you with the phone numbers of Dr. Varis’s trustees.

Thank you, Dror Navaro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dror64 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Please see your talk page. Cheers, Nikthestoned 15:22, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I have full-protected this page for a day so the two of you can work this out on the talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 17:34, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Daniel, though I doubt it will help. User doesn't appear to understand what constitutes a conflict of interest, what verifiability is or even why I've been reverting their changes. I was just trying to keep this BLP from becoming a meandering, unreferenced tribute to this woman, I don't see how there's anything to be "worked out". Cheers, Nikthestoned 17:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Well, we have to assume good faith. The other user said there were inaccuracies in the article, and that at least he should be allowed to offer evidence for. Since he wasn't editing any other articles, I thought protection rather than a block was the better option. Daniel Case (talk) 17:50, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
The inaccuracy lies in the fact that the page has not been updated since her death. Adding a death date and possibly a paragraph is all that's needed! My main problem is what to do with a user endlessly making the same change without discussion or response to comments. If someone reverted some prose I changed my first action would be to ask why. If they did it 5 times I'd most assuredly do so! Is it still editing in good faith when the user has been told they are being disruptive and then continues? Good faith only goes so far Nikthestoned 18:07, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
I had read his comments to suggest that there were other things wrong. What we should do is look over the stuff he was trying to add and cull out from the hagiography the things that are notable and verifiable. Then tell him this is all we need, and direct him to WP:NOT#MEMORIAL. Daniel Case (talk) 18:58, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Nick there is no attempt to distribute false statements here. The simple truth is that Dr. Varis was an extreme influential individual and her death came as surprise to many people and organizations that she was involved with, among are the white house, the metropolitan opera, tufts university and many others. The opening statement on her page is misleading and does not describe her as it should. The white house, mainstream newspapers and other media are about to use this incomplete information to describe her greatness as her death become wide spread.

I started adding references as you can see to secure the source of my information. We are going to add her real bio page on the Tufts’s web site and on her company’s one at Agvar. You will soon notice that and if by that time you think I have no clear evidence to what I write, I will accept any verdict by you. All I asked is a short window of time to allow me to secure my post. My only concern is that people are now reading what is there which is incomplete and somehow misleading

I found the current references pointing to missing pages and I want to correct all that. I have no desire to start any conflicts I just want to correct what is wrong and support evidence to it.--Dror64 (talk) 19:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Here is the official Tufts web site with Agnes Varis’s bio that I posted, the same one that I'm trying to correct in here: http://www.tufts.edu/vet/about/avaris.html Please check and verify my integrity --Dror64 (talk) 19:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
OK, so in answer to all of the above:
As per Wikipedia's verifiability policy, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". This means that for any statement in an article, or for any statement you want to change in an article, you need to provide a reliable source to verify it. This also shows the entry is not pure original research, which is also not allowed. If you think something is wrong, it should be removed until it can be readded correctly, with a citation for verification.
I think the best approach may be for you to stick a section on the articles talk page and list what you'd like to change and the source to back it up. I'll take a look when I can and we'll go from there... If you'd like to *remove* anything when the protection ends then feel free to do so, so long as it's not already there with a source, as then we'll need to take a closer look.
Also, I don't think the white house is going to come to Wikipedia to check out someones page after they've died... I think they have other sources of information.
Lastly, my name does not have a "C"; it's a pet hate. =/
Nikthestoned 20:29, 1 August 2011 (UTC)


The Damage has been done, thanks to you! Time was an essence yesterday and a lot of people were looking at the wrong information. Sometimes we need to use our emotional intellectual sense and move beyond the stubborn nerdy personality which you were blessed with. All you had to do is wait and verify the references I was adding, but you didn’t bother to, instead you were sticking like a nerd to the dry rules and enforcing them like you have nothing else to do in your life. Here, go and watch this reference on yesterday from the Senate so you can maybe now realize that I was not joking with you on the severity of the need to update this immediately. http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SenateSessionPart269 Go to hour 5:52:47 and see the three speeches. I was told that people are going to Wikipedia to read about her and this is when I decided to take this project to verify and update the information about Dr. Varis. --Dror64 (talk) 14:33, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the above, I can now say what I like! If you had actually taken the time to look at *any* of the rules you would see that what you were adding was basically a pile of horseshit and it was my pleasure to remove it repeatedly. You may well call me "nerdy" or "stubborn" but it's rare something I've added here gets reverted, except of course by fools like you who can't understand simple instructions, whereas everything you've done is now gone. I'm proud of that fact ;o)
I'm also not going to even click that link as I don't care. Oh, and my offer from above still stands if you can bring yourself to apologise for the above attack and make your edits to the talk page, as requested. Nikthestoned 14:43, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I think this exchange should settle things ... let's just all just drop it. He still seems to me like he's trying to do the right thing. I will try later to help him with the article. If you want, I will ask him to apologize. Daniel Case (talk) 22:10, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
If I hurt you than I apologize but to me it seems that you were trying to hurt me by playing the role of the upper hand, punishing and not guiding.
Look at early revisions and you can see that I was slowly gathering information from different sources to complete and correct her bio page. I may not do a great job as you are Nik in the way it should be edited on Wiki but I was providing all the necessary references to support the article. This process takes some time, but blocking and keep on reverting back the whole process just to prove what? Was I adding the wrong information? All you had to do is maybe guide me and see how I’m able to complete it all even to your own satisfaction – you took it too personally. Eventfully the correct bio is going to take place on this page with your help or without it, you just slowing the process down. In my last attempt (view history) you can see I added already six reliable references, the ones that you "provided" by reverting it to the old version is pointing to missing pages, how can that be a superior choice to the accurate links I was inserting? Please take a look and see if I’m wrong. All you had to do is ask me to provide citations and reference and if I’m not able to do so than act, but you were using a stop watch and giving me no more the few seconds to add them. I later had no choice but to ask the Dean to post Dr. Varis bio on Tufts’s web site. Just that alone should be a starting point and a true evidence of my integrity. You should have helped us not fight us.

I will take Daniel advice and just drop the whole thing. I’m sorry for what I have caused, her sudden death drove me to a point that I had to show the world who she really was and I was pressured knowing that people from all over are now searching to read about her legacy. I wish you Nik, could have been more sensitive.--Dror64 (talk) 05:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I still believe my actions were correct, however am willing to leave things be. I've modified your latest addition due to peacock wording. Nikthestoned 08:23, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

User:Guitardirk/DLS (Producer)

I can't see a copyvio there - there's nothing much at all on the profile referred to as the original. Unless someone's cunningly removed it.... I'm not even getting a message about needing Flash, which I don't have on this machine. I've taken the tag off for now - see what you can see now. Peridon (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Cunningly removed! there was a whole long profile in the "More about me" dropdown. Seems we may have a conflict of interest here somewhere if this user has access to official profiles! (I even clicked the "duplication detector" link to ensure I was correct...) Some of it remains here but probably not enough to warrant a copyvio. Nikthestoned 14:15, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Interesting. Keep an eye on it. As to Bragod, Wow! Nice one! I was having problems with refs (not very energetically...). Think it's ready to go, now. Unless someone thinks I'm Robert Evans, it shouldn't be regarded as spam or COI. (I do occasionally play the lyre, but mine's got eight strings.) Peridon (talk) 14:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Nah, it looks fine to me, I wouldn't have contributed otherwise! May need an infobox adding, but other that that it does indeed look like an acceptable stub. Nikthestoned 15:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Moved it. Thanks for that. Have you heard them or were you just tidying up? Peridon (talk) 21:25, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Nah, it just sounded interesting so I thought I'd do some Googling! Nikthestoned 08:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Nikthestunned. You have new messages at Reaper Eternal's talk page.
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Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:00, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined

Hi. I had to decline speedy deletion for (A7 - Notability) for Asters (Schevchenko, Didkovsky and Partners) on the grounds that it claims to be a major law firm in their country, therefore probably passes notability. It is written as a press release and seemingly by someone with a conflict of interest so you may want to relist as G11 or PROD or may want to take it to AfD. -- Alexf(talk) 17:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Pint Shot Riot

Hi Nik

I notice you've taken an interest in the band I look after. Are you a fan? We were allowed a page on here because at the time our publishing deal was unique. I'm new to editing on here so am keen on getting some help. There are a lot of (things in brackets) that don't make much sense. Can you explain?

Many thanks Dylan White Dylan White (talk) 21:49, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi there. Nope, not a fan. I'd never heard of them and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like them either!
So you know, I reverted all of your edits... On Wikipedia, if a maintenance tag has been placed on something, don't remove it without first addressing the issue it highlights, or at least detailing the reason for its removal in your edit summary and / or on the talk page. If you don't understand why it's there, you should find out first. The "Citation needed" tags were placed on this article as it included many unsubstantiated claims. Every claim on Wikipedia (especially those that are promotional or disparaging of the material) should be backed up with a reliable source and provided as an inline citation. Those tags show you where the citations are needed.
The changes you made were also not written from a neutral point of view but in a slightly promotional tone using peacock wording. (E.g., By this time PSR had also managed to sell out Coventry's 1,000 capacity Kasbah Club twice! is completely unsuitable for an encyclopedic article.)
Nikthestoned 10:12, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Nikthestoned
Look we had this page set up ages ago for us and I'm just trying to update it in a fair manner based on fact. But I notice you've undone all my hard work!!
Rather than hiding in some mysterious place can you please make yourself know to me so I can go through this with you so it's acceptable to Wikipedia
If you mean 'prove it' by saying 'citation needed' yes I have it all but I'm not quite sure how I'm supposed to upload articles, quotes, charts or whatever.
Please contact me to explain
Thanking you in advance
Dylan White — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylan White (talk • contribs) 00:51, 9 August 2011
Hi Dylan.
1) I'm not hiding anywhere - this is Wikipedia and this is where you contact me. I left a talkback template on your userpage to notify you I'd replied - I fail to see how that is hiding in any way?! I'm not available for contact by email or mobile so don't ask.
2) RE: how to cite (reliable) sources in articles: CLICK THIS.
3) You have a conflict of interest, being the bands promoter. You should not really edit this article for anything other than pure facts (e.g., names / release dates / etc) but instead detail your changes on the talk page and let someone else (with no conflict of interest) make the changes, should they be appropriate.
Nikthestoned 08:21, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Michael Bergman

Thank you for the welcome note and your input, I have added a reference to the article, is it ok? I will add more data after checking and validating the facts.SagitS5 (talk) 11:00, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Sagit. =) No worries! The reference was OK for that sort of information (though it's best to avoid official sites for anything but the bare facts, so you know... See WP:IRS.) - though I moved it after the full-stop as per the citation guidelines. I also removed the prod ;o) Nikthestoned 11:08, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your assistance. SagitS5 (talk) 11:27, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

thanks

thanks for your feeback on my request.

Im fairly new to using Wikipedia so finding my way around the whole system - Which I find a bit confusing so your comments were incredibly helpful!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isabella frank (talk • contribs) 11:06, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Couple of pointers for you

Hello, Nikthestunned. You have new messages at Islandsword's talk page.
Message added 18:13, 30 August 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Yeallow

Hi i'm the editor of the page YEALLOW, the french alternativ rock band How can I get some help to help me to improve my page and resolve the issues that are listed on the page? I'm not a specialist of wikipedia and wiki in general and must admit that I don't understand everything... Thanks for your help

Fredtav (talk) 09:58, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Fredtav. The maintenance tags at the top of the article are there so that when someone who is interested in the page sees them, they will know that they can help. I would do so myself but I've no knowledge of the band whatsoever and just performed a few simple maintenance tasks. The links in those tags should tell you how to resolve the issues. If there's anything specific I can help you with, just post your question here and I'll answer it if I can! Nikthestoned 10:01, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Nik. Thanks for your reply. I tried to replace the tag "citation needed" with some relevant information but now I have this :

This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations. (September 2011) I don't understand how to includes these information... Do you know someone who know well wikipedia so I could work with him and ask him to help us? Fredtav (talk) 10:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I placed that tag there as you had included a bunch of links to interviews or something, yet didn't associate these links with any statements. Please see WP:INCITE for further information on in-line citations. A good place to look if you need help with Wikipedia is the Helpdesk. Nikthestoned 10:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Pint Shot Riot

Hi Nik

Ok been away so sorry for lack of contact. Anyway, I've been learning about Wikipedia and we've had the PSR page re-written in what I'm hoping is an acceptable manner. The citation stuff is all being added and then we'll switch it. Hopefully you'll be ok with the new version.

After this, the next thing I'll be writing about is Transylvanian artists from the 1800's So there's something for you to look forward to!

Cheers Dylan (Dylan White (talk) 15:25, 4 September 2011 (UTC))

Hi Dylan. I'm sorry to say I reverted your changes again... The way you're writing is clearly promotional; this: "By this time PSR had also managed to sell out Coventry's 1,000 capacity Kasbah Club in September 2008 and in March 2009. You can read early press articles here" fails the WP:PEACOCK, WP:NPOV and WP:PROMO guidelines and the fact that you stuck in the link afterwards means it also fails WP:LINKSPAM. I think you need to steer clear of actually changing the text of this article and stick to including verifiable facts and citations etc... I'm happy to proof additions before you make them, if you'd like.
I also did not reinstitute references from YouTube, iTunes and Facebook, as none of these are reliable sources.
Nikthestoned 11:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Nik

Ok you're the boss! Now in fairness to me this page was initially set up by someone else ages ago. I got round to having a look at it again a couple of months ago and thought blimey it's a bit out of date, I'll update it, which is when you then appeared.

Now the revised proposed update has been written by someone else more familiar with WP than myself, but I spent the whole of Sunday evening adding citations where I have them or youtube links which show TV shows as they were broadcast as in I'm trying my hardest to get this right.

The problem with you reverting it back to a much older page is it's very out of date and has citations needed written all over it.

So may I please suggest that we use the new 4th Sept version but by all means you change it to your liking and leave in whatever extra citations needed requests you think are needed and I'll try and find them but at least we'll be moving forwards.

Please let me know if this is ok.

Many thanks

Dylan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylan White (talk • contribs) 21:50, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

The "new version" was unacceptable, for the reasons listed above. It's not about me "being the boss" - it's about Wikipedia not being used for promotional purposes. As I said above, youtube is not a reliable source so was removed. The "citation needed"'s are there for a reason - if you want to supply me with citations for these points I'll happily add them in the proper manner. Nikthestoned 08:17, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Also, I did reinstate 6 of those references in this edit. Nikthestoned 08:20, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


Hi Nik

Ok some things i don't have citations for. For example "Start Digging" charted at N0.3 in the indie chart behind Dizzee Rascal and the Arctic Monkeys but the charts company website doesn't go back to 2008. Hence a scan of an earlier print out is in the PSR press book on facebook but if this isn't good enough no worries, scrap it. They were also in a Q mag top 50 download chart but it's not online so alas. PSR did sell out the Kasbah twice but I can't prove this with a citation so lets just remove it. The only citations I have of the TV shows are the shows on youtube but if this isn't acceptable please remove them. Now I've just remembered how many local press articles there have been on the band so below are all the links.

Like I said, the version to work on is the Sept 4th one not the earlier one. And yes please, please adjust it to the style required by Wikipedia.

I shall look forward to reading your version!

Thank you for your time Dylan White

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I have though remembered that the local press have written loads about them so here are the links. Please go throug htem and add what is acceptable. Tje — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylan White (talk • contribs) 21:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Dylan. I'm not reinstating the promotional rewrite, it's promotional so not allowed, I'm not sure how I can make that any clearer? I'll look through the refs you've provided shortly and make those changes mentioned also, thanks for the info. Can you please go through and fix all of the coventrytelegraph ones however - not one of them works due to the ...'s in them. Nikthestoned 08:52, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Appreciate the help with the new riskval page man, here's a special brownie. Spideygoturback (talk) 14:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Hehe, always appreciated ;o) Thanks! Nikthestoned 14:26, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Nikthestoned. You have new messages at Spideygoturback's talk page. --15:17, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Do I have to put this here for you to get a message that I replied on my talk page or is it redundant?
How you been nik? I've been working on the riskval page in my userspace and am coming close to finishing a first draft. I scoured the net for third party resources and wrote it in a neutral perspective. Reading through the requirements for organizations I tried to follow all of the guidelines but I'd appreciate if you could review the top and history section to make sure I'm doing everything alright. I'm still working on the product section but those will only be 1-2 sentences each so they shouldn't be problematic. Let me know what you think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Spideygoturback/RiskVal As always, spidey still got your back. Spideygoturback (talk) 19:37, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi Spidey. After a minor tweak or two, the intro looks OK to me. The "history" section, however, reads to me like a corporate company bio and I would not be surprised if the article was speedy deletion for being promotional, should you choose to move it out now. I'm not so good at writing prose from scratch so don't really wanna attempt it here, but a rewrite is certainly needed I'm afraid. Additionally, a number of the sources ([3], [4], [5]) are just press releases and as such do not count as reliable, third party sources... I think you'd need some more for it to meet WP:CORP, the reasoning under which it was recently deleted. I'd probably also lose the "Products and Services" section, it isn't really encyclopaedic material. Sorry I couldn't be more positive but figure you'd prefer the truth =/ Nikthestoned 16:07, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Also, is this what your username is about?! Nikthestoned 16:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Hahahahah yea that's the idea. I'll tell you the actual story some other time. Thanks for being honest and I'm glad that at least the introduction is wiki-ready. As of now I put as much information as I could find for the history, some of which comes from a personal interview with the CEO. I understand that some of it needs to be cut down. As I was writing this page, I looked at many other corporate wiki pages to get a feel for what sort of information is generally added to meet notability. The bulk tends to be mergers and acquisitions because that's the stuff that makes the news. I don't understand how making a deal with another company makes someone notable. I wanted to get a sense of how this company is different from others in the marketplace because being unique is what makes someone notable.
I wrote from a neutral standpoint as much as possible but I understand how there could still be clauses that aren't quite appropriate. While I can work on the wording myself, do you have a few examples for me about which areas are problem points?
Also whats the best way to contact you in an IM format? We can IRC somewhere, skype, AIM, etc... I idle #sokchat on Dynastynet most often. I'll use the same name and I can tell you the story of why it exists :D. Spideygoturback (talk) 18:21, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Your help desk request

Pawan Bansal Photograph

Hi Nikthestoned

I added the photo of "Pawan Bansal" from the website link as below http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-obama-visit-what-obama-said-about-pakistan-un-and-afghanistan/20101108.htm which is a public viewing website and the photo is genuine. Please advise how can i refer this to keep the photo there.

Caprian_in — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.145.11 (talk) 22:13, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

User:K.h93/SMS Billing Types

Hi I have been trying to create this page SMS Billing Types for a while as I was looking for the information to help with an article I was writing myself about SMS Billing and for the first time Wikipedia was no help! I have had the page deleted twice and been warned for advertising (not intentionally but now I see what they meant by it!) I was wondering if you could check the page and get back to me with any helpful feedback please! I would like to ensure others have a full knowledge of this.

Many Thanks! K.h93 (talk) 10:29, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

PS nice username :) K.h93 (talk) 10:30, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
Hi there. You need to read WP:COPYVIO as I see this is not the first time you've been notified about using copyrighted materials. I've once more nominated for deletion due to this reasoning - if you want to recreate it, do so without copy and pasting anything and you should be OK! Also, I don't really see the point in the page. It's not covering anything not mentioned on the Mobile payment page, or the method-specific ones such as WAP billing, Reverse SMS billing or Mobile ticketing so doesn't really need to be created at all. You could, of course, add to these pages instead. Nikthestoned 10:59, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
You must be joking me! I feel this is targeted specifically at me and not my actual article! In what right is it copyright?!!? Most of the information was obtained myself. It is quite obvious that you do not have a lot of, if any knowledge about the telecommunications business as WAP billing, Reverse SMS billing or Mobile ticketing does does give the same or even relevant information in relations to the TYPE of SMS billing! My page was not live and was a draft which was unfair that you deleted as all I simply asked was for you to check it and let me know what was wrong with it, so that I, MYSELF could make changes to it. I would suggest you invest in a dictionary and look up the meaning of copyright and also what check and draft mean. yours sincerely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K.h93 (talk • contribs) 14:07, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're talking about re: targeting you... You copied this page and pasted it into a Wikipedia article - that's pretty much the definition of copyright infringement. Especially when you look in the bottom right hand corner of the page to see "All content on this page is subject to Copyright © 2002 - 2011 txtNation Limited. All Rights Reserved.". If, indeed, you ARE the copyright holder of this page, you could go through the process to donate this material to Wikipedia, but this should be done prior to creating the page. Lastly, copyright violations, like promotional statements, are not permitted on ANY page of Wikipedia, regardless of whether or not you stick a "draft" tag on it. Lastly, I think my OED backs up my ideas about copyrights - I'd suggest you invest in one also ;o) Nikthestoned 14:24, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
This is just a courtesy notice, to let you know that you were mentioned on my talk page. Cheers. Salvio Let's talk about it! 10:04, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Salvio, good of you Nikthestoned 11:27, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

FPC

Hi Nikthestoned. You reviewed the nomination. Edit2 was fixed, and a new alternative was added. Maybe you could take another look? Broccolo (talk) 16:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

RFDs for Moved Images

I saw that you listed a bunch of redirects on Redirects for Discussion. Since you created these images, and because they are uncontroversial, I think they qualify as great candidates for speedy deletion. Since you're requesting it, you could tag with it {db-author}} because it qualifies under WP:CSD#G7. I think it would also qualify under WP:CSD#G6 because you just moved the page today and this qualifies as "technical" deletion cleaning up after a move. I don't know if this will come up again but I thought I would leave a message. Thanks for contributing all the great images! —mako๛ 16:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mako! I actually did not upload these images - when moving an image you "create" a page with the original name and the history of the original is moved to the new... So I only created them as I moved the image! But yea, G6 will probably do! Cheers, Nikthestoned 08:15, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

BLPPROD on José Luis Ceballos

There is a reference at José Luis Ceballos, which makes it ineligible for BLPPROD, the external link to [6] counts. Monty845 13:32, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

An external link does not equate to a reference - the threshold for inclusion is wildly different... E.g., an alternative Wiki could happily be added as an EL but would be immediately dismissed as a reference. Is bdfa.com.ar a reliable source?
If the EL counts it should be converted into a reference... Feel free to do so, I don't speak spanish! Nikthestoned 13:53, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't speak enough Spanish to say for sure if it is reliable source or not, there is an ongoing discussion about the scope of BLPPROD, as to whether an unreliable source is enough to avoid having a prod added, but as this is a potentially reliable one, it should be considered at AfD if you think the source isn't reliable enough. Monty845 14:03, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't think it unreasonable for the creating editor to do so themselves - which is pretty much why I added that (any many other) PRODs to this editor's articles. They obviously speak the language (as well as English) and as such the prod could easily be addressed. I'm currently in the process of attempting to communicate with this editor; I don't think removing a PROD from an article without references is the way to go... Nikthestoned 14:08, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
This has been discussed many times at WT:BLPPROD and the general consensus is that ANY reference or link is sufficient to prevent a BLPPROD from being added. Just like a CSD is strictly limited, the BLPPROD is also limited to NO references. If there is a completely inappropriate or irrelevant link then you can remove the link first, but if it is to a database-like site then it should not be BLPPRODed. If you feel that there are notability or other issues, then use AfD or a normal PROD. I will be removing the BLPPRODs and putting more informative templates such as {{No footnotes}} and {{BLP sources}} instead. Sometimes you have to think like a new editor, who looks at the article with a link that confirms the main part of the article, and wonders how you can classify it as not having any references. The-Pope (talk) 15:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough, I'm obviously slightly misinformed in this area... I would like to just note, however, that this user has been creating articles in this manner for a while now with no change in behaviour - the only time a reference has been added, it's been added by another user. It seems to me we're just going to be getting incomplete articles as opposed to ones which will need very little after-work, with just some simple instruction. This user has received comprehensive instruction as to how to add references, see this. I have also attempted to contact the user directly, to no avail as yet... Nikthestoned 15:25, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
You aren't the first, and won't be the last. We need to make it clearer, but consensus is very hard to get, so we are left in this middle ground of confusion. I agree that by now he should be making better articles. He definitely should be entering into a discussion. Maybe he feels his English isn't good enough to discuss things (not that we would care at all)? Maybe he's a big fan of the Chilean/Argentinian leagues and is annoyed at the systematic bias against it? Actions like his give the whole WP:NFOOTBALL notabilty guideline a bad name... but BLPPROD deletion isn't the answer. AfD them if need be. Get the BDFA ref checked at WP:RSN. Chuck a bunch of (relevant) cleanup tags on them. Get WP:FOOTBALL involved by tagging the article's talk pages with relevant WikiProjects, but maybe also raise the issue directly at WT:FOOTBALL. There are some very good, diligent and knowledgeable editors there. Regards, The-Pope (talk) 15:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough, I may have chosen the wrong "tack"! To be fair I assumed they'd just get a ref added, not be deleted, given the evident notability. Will post at RSN, however; thanks for the suggestion! (It's not a noticeboard I've seen as yet...) Nikthestoned 15:42, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Kinda happened across this by chance If it's anything to you, I happen to agree in principle with your argument; I don't quite understand why one EL of some tenuous relevance should allow a page to get by a BLPPROD. Do chime in at the discussion at WT:BLPPROD if you get a chance. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 16:50, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Hi Nikthestoned, just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Swarm X 17:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Swarm! Nikthestoned 09:34, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Thermite Reaction
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Your image, File:ThermiteReaction.jpg, was nominated on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Makeemlighter (talk) 20:45, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Thermite Reaction on Commons
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Talkback

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Sorting's working now! Best, — The Earwig (talk) 07:30, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception of the Holy Virgin Mary

hello,

you opposed the promotion of this picture, but now, as User:Fallschirmjäger retouched the picture, can you take a second look? Thanks. ♫GoP♫TCN 19:21, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pure (novel)

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: SVG Conversion

I noticed your post in the Illustration Workshop a while back regarding File:Lolicon Sample.png. The reason it's pixelated is because it's not actually converted to a vector image. What you created is a vector image without any vectors, just raster elements. Vectors aren't defined by points/pixels of color like raster images are, so they're very tough to convert automatically because most software has trouble determining where lines, shapes, and colors should go. This is unlike converting between raster formats (ie. JPEG to PNG) because the pixel information still remains somewhat the same.

Creating a vector/SVG version of this image would definitely take some time because it would have to be drawn by hand. This means not only outlining everything, but matching the colors, gradients, etc.

Anyway, I just thought you'd like to know why it turned out that way. It's a common mistake so don't worry about it, though I do suggest putting the SVG up for deletion as it should be eventually anyway. The Haz talk 06:00, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers Haz! Thanks also for explaining it in simple terms - makes sense (and also explains why the "convert to SVG" category doesn't get cleared often!). Nikthestoned 18:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Not a problem! The Haz talk 18:34, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Community input required: lowering delist bar at FPC

You are receiving this because of your current or past association with the Featured Pictures project. Following on from several cases where closers did not observe the prescribed minimum votes required for a delisting, there is now a motion to entirely dismiss the requirement for a minimum. Please participate in the discussion as wide-ranging changes may arise.

Link: Wikipedia talk:Featured picture candidates#Delist procedure changes Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (talk) 14:17, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Your October deletions in the Alphorn entry

Hi. In my judgment, much of the content you removed in October was primarily informative, not primarily promotional, and I would invite you to consider reviewing your excision and restoring at least some of it. Here's my thinking:

Alphorn performers and makers are not sufficiently numerous or popular to warrant separate Wikipedia entries, links to which, if they existed, you might find acceptable as non-promotional items. But while Wikipedia entries on more popular instruments often link to Wikipedia lists of performers or individual performer entries, in the case of living performers, these Wikipedia sources often lead to performers' personal web pages, which, in turn, generally provide information about CDs, DVDs, compositions, etc. (regardless whether a performer's personal web page is hosted at a .com or .edu site).

Not suprisingly, since much of the alphorn literature is recent, little sheet music and few recordings are in the public domain. Readers interested in hearing alphorn music have no choice but to purchase recordings.

Similarly, it is not obvious where a reader might find information on alphorn making other than at alphorn makers' websites. We could attempt to explain it in the Wikipedia article, but of course, references are required, which would be subject to removal as promotional....

Steinway, Yamaha, and other well-known instrument manufacturers do not dabble in alphorns, nor can someone scan local listings to find a museum or music store that traffics in them. Attending a performance by one of the few alphornists around is the only way most people will ever see or hear an alphorn live. They do not appear regularly on TV (except on a Ricola commercial, mention of which was also removed from the article).

In short, the removal of content incidentally offering information that might have led interested readers to spend money has deprived them of useful information relating to the alphorn - information they would be hard-pressed to find collected anywhere else, including at Wikipedia.

Best,

RL — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ralflott (talk • contribs) 12:58, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. I stand by my removal for the following reasons:
  • If the alphorn players and bands are notable enough to be listed on that page then they are notable enough to warrant their own article and as such should have been wikilinked, not linking to their official sites. I could not, however, find much third party coverage on any of these.
  • If the companies are notable enough, they also would have their own pages. Listing a random selection is pretty unfair to those companies not included... You *could* create a List of alphorn manufacturers, (as per this List of guitar manufacturers et al.) however you will need to find reliable, third-party sources to list as references.
  • Lastly, much of your reasoning is false. Wikipedia is not here to provide information not found elsewhere at all - that's pretty much in antithesis with the first Pillar of Wikipedias fundamental principles, that Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia... (Specifically "Wikipedia is not a dumping ground for random information" & "Wikipedia is not for unverifiable material").
I did not, however, realise I had removed a couple of useful images and as such I've just reinstituted these.
Cheers, Nikthestoned 09:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Category sorting

A reminder that DEFAULTSORT is not a template but a magic word, and uses a colon. For example, {{DEFAULTSORT:Bouchercon XXII}}, not {{DEFAULTSORT|Bouchercon XXII}}. — Paul A (talk) 02:34, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Cheers Paul, I had forgot that they required a colon! Nikthestoned 09:39, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

File:Rev - main cast.jpg

Thanks for changing name but how did you do it as there is no move button or I would have had ago myself. Thanks. REVUpminster (talk) 11:26, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi there - that was swift! You need the File Mover permission - which you have to specifically request... You can also stick a {{Rename media}} template on the file-page and someone with this permission will sort it for you. Lastly, for any future instances, I'd be more than happy to do so for you at request . Nikthestoned 11:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Rev. (TV series) is one I watch and happened to be online at the time. I'll bear you in mind as I do get in a tangle sometimes and need help. Anyway thanks again. REVUpminster (talk) 13:56, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
No worries - just let me know! Nikthestoned 14:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Do you want to revert it back to this one? Nikthestoned 22:31, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
  • I want to keep the first new upload timed at 2129 titled better angle. sorry about this I think it happens because there is a delay in the change taking place and I repeat the action and then revert getting multiple uploads. Thanks for your help. REVUpminster (talk) 22:42, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
The image shown is the image uploaded at 21:29... Just ignore the fact that there are 4 of them - that's just there for the history. Nikthestoned 08:49, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

aspect ratio

First, thank you so much for the work on making the BeF2 image. I really DO need the aspect ratio as requested (short and wide). Either we turn the image 90 (or actually I PREFER we just "cut" the BeF2 image in half,keeping the bottom). The thing is, that I will be displaying as sort of a pseodopanaorama in article, so short and wide is the aspect, I need. Looks bad when tall, because the whole thing gets huge. Actually even if I text-wrapped it, short and wide is almost always better for layout because tall pics conflict with section headers or cause squeezes more than short ones do.

See here for an example of what I like to do: [7]

See here for how the pseudopanaroma looks with the current tall pics: [8]

TCO (talk) 01:27, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi TCO, I'm sorry but I've no idea what you're talking about . Are you sure the creator of the image was me? It may have been as a result of a move, perhaps? Nikthestoned 09:08, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

It was Niknacks. srry.TCO (talk) 09:10, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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