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DYK for 2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election

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Thank you!

Hello, Natg 19,

I just wanted to thank you for helping out at AFD and relisting older discussions that haven't been closed. Sometimes I feel like the only editor who relists discussions so it's great to see another editor helping out and bringing unresolved AFD discussions to people's attention. Your work is appreciated! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:43, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Justin Ishbia

Hi Natg 19, I saw that you'd recently edited the Justin Ishbia Wikipedia article, so I'm posting here to see if you'd be able to review an edit request to correct his birth year and add some relevant details. My full request is posted at Talk:Justin_Ishbia. The edits that I'm asking for are a hopefully pretty simple correction to his birth year in the article introduction, as well as two additions: 1) the soccer team he has invested in and 2) two major donations he's made that have received media coverage. I work for Shore Capital Partners and have a financial conflict of interest, which is why I'm making a request and not just editing myself. Would you be able to look at this? Thank you for your help. JMShore (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JMShore sorry, did not get to this. Seems like a different editor already made the changes. Natg 19 (talk) 20:29, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. Another editor did help me with this, so I'm all set. Thanks! JMShore (talk) 16:38, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Andy Dalton

Hello,

I've seen you helping out with the confirmation of sources. However, I see you changed the Andy Dalton page. I don't see an official source from the Carolina Panthers, may I ask where the source is? Thank you. Carhles (talk) 00:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Carhles: the source is [1]. There is a small note at the bottom of the article that mentions that they agreed to terms with Dalton and a few other players. Natg 19 (talk) 00:46, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sweet, thanks for helping out with the official sources. Good day! Carhles (talk) 00:48, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for March 24

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Fall 2023 fashion weeks

Hello! I hate to seem impolite but this article is very complex and I've been working on it for weeks and I am still doing a lot of sourcing and double-checking of blue links - could you please wait until each designer has a corresponding Hypebeast/Vogue/Womenswear Daily/Fashionista article before you remove the disambiguation links? The designers are at risk of being linked out to the wrong places before this is completed. Thank you Computer-ergonomics (talk) 21:20, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how this risk exists, but I will hold off on changing the links for now. Natg 19 (talk) 21:22, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate it! I know you're just trying to make the page better and it's nice to have a second set of eyes, but I only moved it out of draft space because I was doing a lot of work on an article and I want it to count towards my edits. Thanks Computer-ergonomics (talk) 21:25, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox

Hey. Hope you're well. I just modified an edit that you made to Cushitic-speaking peoples, in which you changed Orthodox Christianity to Eastern Orthodox Church. In the present case, that ought to be Oriental Orthodox Churches, which are not fully in communion with the Eastern Orthodox Churches. I noticed that you've made several such disambiguations recently, & I wanted to alert you to the distinction between Eastern & Oriental Orthodox Christianity. Take care! Pathawi (talk) 10:31, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Pathawi thanks for the note. Natg 19 (talk) 15:25, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tripolis ad Meandrum

Hello, I hope this message finds you well,

I've seen your recent edit regarding Theodosius of Bithynia. Since I see you are more experienced Wikipedia user than me, you might have a good solution to this problem: Suda's account doesn't specify which Tripolis he is talking about. It could be (and by different scholars has been) interpreted in different ways: it could be Tripolis ad Meandrum or Tripolis in Phoenicia, or even Tripolis in Africa (these are the Latin names). Giuseppe Auria (Q29850001) (s. XVII) even proposed that there might have been an otherwise unknown Tripolis in Bithynia.

In Suda the account of Theodosius the mathematician and of Theodosius of Tripolis (poet) are under different entries of the lexicon, that got mixed up in the renaissance tradition about Theodosius. If you find a concise way of expressing that the confusion is not in the Suda lexicon itself but has arisen in its later editions/interpretations, it would be fantastic.

If you need any sources or references for all which is written above, I can provide it. It seemd uncessesary to do so in this thread. SZC 03 (talk) 10:34, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SZC 03 Perhaps that sentence could just be removed then, as it is unclear which Tripolis, and it seems unnecessary to say that the account is wrong. Natg 19 (talk) 15:53, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. Maybe it could be left as is, it is not too big of a deal. I feel thought that there is reason to specify that he was not from Tripoli since many older authoritative sources say so, and so anyone intending to read more about Theodosius has to search for "Theodosius of Tripoli" as well (and at the same time has to beware of this error).

If you see in the in the references of the Wikipedia article you will see that the entry in the Encyclopædia Britannica is listed under "Theodosius of Tripolis" (although the author when writing his history of mathematics ten years later will say the contrary), also in Heiberg's critical edition the mistake appears in the title and is corrected in the errata corrige.

Knowing this it is not weird that many less authoritative (or more tangential) sources still get it wrong.

Sorry for the long and involved messages, but I could not help myself. SZC 03 (talk) 18:47, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just removed the link to Tripolis and left the rest as is. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 18:56, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SZC 03 I would recommend adding a footnote describing the current state of academic controversy/consensus about this, whatever that might be. –jacobolus (t) 21:23, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

AMSR

There are other uses for this term. I feel that AMSR should direct to the disambiguation page and not directly to the Aqua satellite where it isn't the primary target. ArcAngel (talk) 02:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ArcAngel the disambiguation page is for "ASMR" not "AMSR" (note the slight difference). Natg 19 (talk) 03:15, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well. My apologies. I am dyslexic sometimes. ArcAngel (talk) 04:32, 19 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Ÿ (disambiguation)

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Merlin Sheldrake Article

Hello, I see where you closed the following discussion in 2020 re: redirecting Merlin Sheldrake to a page about his book. Given the continued popularity of his book and several subsequent mentions in prominent news sources, I prepared a draft to replace the redirect which I feel better reflects the requirements for an eponymous page than the original, deleted version. Before I move it to the article space, I wanted to confer with you. FlamingMoth (talk) 13:52, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, on first look, I don't see that his notability has changed, thus I disagree that this article belongs in mainspace.

But also pinging @Kj cheetham and David Eppstein:, the original nominator of the AfD, and a different respected editor who also !voted delete at the AfD, for a 2nd opinion. Natg 19 (talk) 07:32, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Does he have more than one book published, each having multiple published reviews? If not I still think this is a case of WP:BIO1E and that we don't have enough to justify separate articles on the book and its author. Also, "Given the continued popularity of his book" is a promotional reason for doing things and one that does not connect with any Wikipedia notability criterion. We base our content on published reliable sources and their in-depth coverage of our topics, not on popularity or promotional claims of popularity. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:38, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that it's already been declined at AFC: Draft:Merlin Sheldrake. -Kj cheetham (talk) 09:18, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bruce brown

It was confirmed by Bruce browns absent that he has signed with pacers Smswallow08 (talk) 08:38, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Smswallow08 per Wikipedia precedent, we do not change information until signings are officially announced by the team involved. See WP:SPORTSTRANS. Natg 19 (talk) 08:41, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What if it’s on the NBA Website Smswallow08 (talk) 18:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Even on the NBA website, these signings are "unofficial" reports, as no signings can be completed until after the NBA July moratorium ends on July 6. Natg 19 (talk) 17:23, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Dubai Airport (disambiguation)

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Thank you

I want to thank you for saving my time! You saved my time because I was about too add references and edit the infobox for Gabe Vincent and Jaxson Hayes, but you did almost everything for me and I want to thank you for that. ReaganHoang10 (talk) 20:38, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! Natg 19 (talk) 20:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

I appreciate you fixing all the dab links. I should have thought through that a dab page would be needed for that page move but alas did not. Wil try not to do that again. Just acknowledging the work you do. Thanks again. Elinruby (talk) 00:35, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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BLP prod of Yves Frémion

Hello Natg 19 -- BLP prod is only for articles with literally no sources, including external links. This had the authority control box with multiple links to reliable database sources including Bibliothèque nationale de France, and so wasn't eligible. Moreover finding sourcing was not difficult as two editors edit conflicted over providing it when it was listed at deletion sorting. In future, please always make an effort to find sources before placing the BLP prod tag, as prods aren't always patrolled, and it's a waste of resources to delete articles on clearly notable individuals. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:40, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Espresso Addict: thanks for the note. I was not aware that the "authority control" box counts as sources for BLP. Also, I should've done more searching before putting the prod tag on this article. Natg 19 (talk) 16:54, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Any external link counts, though it's wise to check that the authority control box links do actually contain some information, as sometimes they don't. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:23, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Latin Rite

Hi! Unfortunately, quite a few of your attempts to remove disambiguation links to Latin Rite has resulted in incorrect linkages to Latin liturgical rites rather than the correct Latin Church. I don't use tools, so I've had to move through the list by hand—but I promise I'll get it done this month! ~ 21:24, 7 September 2023 (UTC) Pbritti (talk) 21:24, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm sorry. I have been using the DisamAssist tool, so I hope I didn't make more errors in my changes. Natg 19 (talk) 21:28, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely no problem! If anything, it's lighting a fire under me to make the fixes related to this term sooner rather than later. You haven't made anything worse (indeed you improved quite a bit!) and it was my fault not acting sooner. Thank you for your great editing and immediate response! :) ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:38, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tracy Ip

I see that you recently worked on this article.

The thing is, the woman is obviously notable, but most of her refs are in Chinese. I can't google-translate them cos all the Chinese (.zh) sites won't open for me. As an unreferenced WP:BLP it should be deleted and will be soon. There's more on the article talk page if you want to save the article. I'm not up to it myself. Herostratus (talk) 05:46, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. Though I originally redirected, I later decided that the person was notable and reverted my change. I added an "expand Chinese" template to it. Natg 19 (talk) 18:10, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Herostratus (talk) 23:17, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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Your article Joseph Vogel

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Proposed deletion of Joseph Vogel

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@BlueberryIntoTheWild: thanks for the note, but this foreign language article was created by an IP user. I have reverted back to its stable version of a disambiguation page. Natg 19 (talk) 01:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Natg 19: Okay, great - thanks for letting me know. Twinkle must have mistakenly assumed you were the page creator, so sorry for any confusion! BlueberryIntoTheWild (talk) 01:17, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Isabella II move

Hello. In your closure statement of the RM for Isabella II you stated that there was "No consensus" for the page move, however you did not state why. Could you elaborate on how you got to that conclusion? UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 00:18, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I weighed the arguments and do not find the "support" arguments much more convincing than the "oppose" arguments. We do not use a vote count, but the votes were also evenly split between the two sides. I do not see a way that this could be moved with the current comments as they are. Natg 19 (talk) 01:06, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correct that the votes were even, however 3 of the opposers gave arguments based on a falsified NGRAM, [2] which compared "Isabella II of Spain" to "Isabel II of Spain" which is dishonest, because I wasn't proposing a move from "Isabella II of Spain" to "Isabel II of Spain" and "Isabel II" solely refers to the Spanish queen in English-language reliable sources. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 12:58, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The proper ngram, which compares the current title to the proposed title [3] shows that "Isabel" II is by far the more common name. UmbrellaTheLeef (talk) 13:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@UmbrellaTheLeef: Okay, I'll re-open this RM and let an admin close this. Natg 19 (talk) 20:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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IFT-3 RFC

Not sure where to discuss this, so if you want this moved, feel free to do so.

I believe that the Autoconfirmed user, who has made 94 edits as of typing this user, is sufficiently experienced to close an RFC. Redacted II (talk) 17:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fully disagree, but I do not want to continue reverting, as that falls into edit warring and the 3RR rule. An editor with < 100 edits is not experienced enough to understand Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or judging how Wikipedia does WP:CONSENSUS and should not be closing RfCs or other discussions. Generally, administrators should be closing RFCs, or editors who have been around more than a few weeks. Natg 19 (talk) 17:28, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see no mention of the <100 rule at WP:Consensus. If that rule exists, please show where it is. Redacted II (talk) 17:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Though there is no "official rule" against a new user closing a discussion, the closer does not seem experienced and did not have a good closure rationale for this closure. Natg 19 (talk) 18:33, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While you may think the closer isn't experienced, I do. And I think their reason for the closer was reasonable.

So, let's let the closer stand. Nothing good will come from reopening that RFC. Redacted II (talk) 18:48, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will not be reverting or reopening the closure myself. However, I believe an administrator or other user should assess the arguments made and determine a clear consensus. The user's closure did not answer this question Should the SpaceX Starship IFT-3 launch be categorized as (in alphabetical order) a failure, partial failure, or success in the infobox? in a clear way, but just sidestepped it. Natg 19 (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Autoconfirmed also does not mean experience, as any user who has been around for more than 4 days and made 10 edits gets the autoconfirmed privilege. Natg 19 (talk) 17:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Protomer (disambiguation)

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Requested move 12 March 2024 - Liberal Unification Party

The discussion ended with moving some, but not all pages. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 18:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ValenciaThunderbolt I don't see that consensus (as there was also limited participation) but you are free to open a new RM for specific articles that you think should be moved. Natg 19 (talk) 18:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Ignatius Jones

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ITN recognition for Jimmy Johnson (cornerback)

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Hayfever

Hi, you recently reverted my edit on hayfever. At first, I accidentally linked another redirect, but then Hay fever (disambiguation) where it originally was supposed to go. Would you mind to redo your revert and lead it to the disambiguation page again? –Tobias (talk) 14:50, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tobiasi0 I disagree that this should redirect to the disambiguation page. Please open a RfD to discuss this. Natg 19 (talk) 15:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, you're right - I just realized my mistake. –Tobias (talk) 15:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for A. J. Smith

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ITN recognition for 2024 New Caledonia unrest

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ITN recognition for Grayson Murray

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ITN recognition for Robert Pickton

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ITN recognition for Drew Gordon

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List of internet pioneers

Hello, Natg 19. This is Helsaj. I reverted your change of the list of Internet Pioneers page to Alpha order. I apologize for doing this without giving a reason or trying to contact you first. It is because I am a new user. I did not know how to "talk" to you first. (Now I figured it out.) However I am old and have done work on the ARPANET and Internet since the early days of the ARPANET.

I finally found the talk page for the List of Internet Pioneers page and posted a new discussion topic about Alpha order versus chronological order (in previous versions of the page). Please read my reasons therein for undoing your change to Alpha order.

Furthermore I emailed Vint Cerf (one of the two fathers of the Internet) yesterday and he agreed with me that the list should be reverted back to chronological order. If you have any doubt, I will ask Vint to contact you directly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helsaj (talk • contribs) 17:29, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Responded on the talk page. Natg 19 (talk) 19:18, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Alexander Lang

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ITN recognition for Donald Sutherland

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ITN recognition for Lou Dobbs

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Speedy deletion nomination of Southern metal (disambiguation)

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ITN recognition for Al Attles

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Please revert your change to ITN

It was because I was on mobile and I wrote and submitted my vote before I could see that a non-admin closed it. I didn't get a conflict warning. Kcmastrpc (talk) 02:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see no need for this. You added to the "closed" nomination, though unintentionally, so I moved it back outside. The nomination is not going to get reopened, from what I can see, as it was a clear consensus against posting. Natg 19 (talk) 16:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of college football coaches with 0 wins for deletion

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ITN recognition for James Earl Jones

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Hello

Thank you for your help in cleaning up some parts of the article(s) to which I have contributed. Have a good day! Steven1991 (talk) 21:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Archibald Sinclair (disambiguation)

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David Boucher

You flew through those, you beat me to at least half of them.

Thanks for helping clean up after I closed the RM. Bobby Cohn (talk) 20:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Natg 19 (talk) 20:59, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding about File:Quadball Canada logo.png

Hi, Natg 19! I noticed your uploaded non-free logo File:Quadball Canada logo.png that you added as {{non-free logo}}, however, the logo seems simple maple leaf and text only and it can qualified as {{PD-textlogo}}. Can I change it into that licensing instead of non-free logo, if you don't mind? Thanks! Royiswariii Talk! 08:03, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Royiswariii sure that is fine. Natg 19 (talk) 15:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A cookie for you!

Thank you for catching my disambiguation errors! H0n0r (talk) 22:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of teams that have overcome 3–0 series deficits

Hey there, one of your recent contributions was undone at this article. I just wanted to point out that reverse sweep is a common term floated around sports frequently. [4], [5], [6], [7], [8]. The article does lack some citations, but I figured these could do. Conyo14 (talk) 03:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you add it to the article then? Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 03:59, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You got it :) Conyo14 (talk) 04:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bankstown Line

You have recently moved "Bankstown Line" to Bankstown Line (Sydney Trains). In principle that is okay. But I still will request an intervention from your side to solve problems cause by this. Both Template:SCO South Coast Line and Template:Sydney Trains Line/Inner West & Leppington Line are now pointing to this disambiguation page. It took me ages to even identify where that link is hidden, but it is an incorrect link at "T3". This is caused by For the new T3 service that replaced the Bankstown Line, see Liverpool & Inner West Line. I am unable to solve this issue and I am hoping you can do it! Or call in reinforcements that can solve the issue. Thanks in advance. The Banner talk 10:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late reply. Will take a look at these. Natg 19 (talk) 17:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This should be good to go now. I requested a change here which should have fixed the issue. Natg 19 (talk) 17:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]