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Concern regarding Draft:List of Taiwanese films of the 2020s

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You're invited! January 29: COVID-19 Pandemic in the United States Edit-a-thon / Translate-a-thon - Online via Zoom

COVID-19 Pandemic in the United States Edit-a-thon / Translate-a-thon (January 29, 2022)

Hello Mx. Granger! Great job on COVID-19 related editing! I'd like to invite you to an Edit-a-thon / Translate-a-thon, open to the public, via Zoom on Saturday - January 29th, 2022, 1pm-3pm E.S.T. We will be focusing our edits on the ongoing Coronavirus pandemic. Click the event page to read more. This event is hosted by Sure We Can, a recycling and community center in Brooklyn. This is the 4th Covid-focused Edit-a-thon that Sure We Can has hosted. Click here to see the last three COVID-19 focused edit-a-thons: Sept 6th, 2020 & Nov 21, 2020 & Feb 6th, 2021. In past events, we translated the COVID-19 pandemic in New York City article into Yoruba, Malagasy, Hebrew, Swahili, Tagalog, Korean, Russian, Japanese, Portuguese, Polish, Greek, Haitian Creole, and wrote the COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy in the United States article. We would love for you to join us. All experience levels welcome. COVID-19 Pandemic in the United States Edit-a-thon / Translate-a-thon Saturday January 29, 1PM - 3PM E.S.T (18:00 - 20:00 UTC)

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DYK for Embrace Again

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DYK for Condor (options)

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— Maile (talk) 12:03, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Rename categories

Please see my proposal to speedily rename subcategories of Category:Enforced disappearances by country e.g. Category:Forced disappearances in Argentina to Category:Enforced disappearances in Argentina to align with the parent category per C2C. Hugo999 (talk) 04:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

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Re Singular they

Hi Mx. Granger. At Wikipedia, exclusive of talk pages, the majority of my edits relate to grammar fixes. The majority of my substantive edits relate to linguistics. If that's an area of particular interest to you, feel free to ping me re any questions, comments, or observations on the topic. I really do appreciate how your recent edit at singular they improved on my first whack at it. Cheers. --Kent Dominic·(talk) 23:34, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Kent Dominic, thanks for the message. I do sometimes edit linguistics-related articles (you can see a bit of my work at Fuliiru language, for instance), but I have many interests and tend to drift from topic area to topic area. Who knows, we might run into each other at another linguistics article at some point. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:47, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Speaking of running into each other: good catch on my "recognized" snafu today. Cutting and pasting errors apply to thoughts as well as text. As attested in the source I cited, what's been recently recognized in sociolinguistics is the nexus between the "singular they" phrase and its currency among people who don't identify as male or female. Otherwise, it's long been acknowledged that "they" is epicene regardless of grammatical number.

I think the article is wrong about that currency having emerged in the early 21st century. I'm nearly certain it first occurred in the 1920s on a niche basis relating to psychology, i.e., when modern distinctions between sex and gender really took off. I might one day further investigate that bit of linguistic trivia. Cheers. --Kent Dominic·(talk) 17:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

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I see an edit war looming due to a grudge held by an aggrieved editor. Please offer your thoughts about the most reversion. Thanks. --Kent Dominic·(talk) 17:49, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Interactive Brokers

Hello, Mx. Granger! You were kind enough to review a couple requests I submitted at Talk:Interactive Brokers. I've submitted a couple additional requests to correct existing text, which have remained unreviewed, if you're willing to take another look and update the article on my behalf. Thanks again for your assistance, K at IBKR (talk) 15:01, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi K at IBKR, thanks for the message. I'm busy with other projects for the next week or two but I'll try to take a look after that, if someone else doesn't get to it first. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:46, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:List of Taiwanese films of the 2020s

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for The Battle at Lake Changjin II

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

"Interactive Brokers"

Hi again! I'm still struggling to get my requests reviewed, if you're willing to revisit the article's Talk page. Or, if you have any suggestions for where I might be able to help from editors, I'd be interested since my posts at relevant WikiProjects don't seem to have prompted interest. Thanks again! K at IBKR (talk) 19:40, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately these things can often take quite a while. There's currently a backlog of more than 100 requests, and we're all volunteers who also have other on-wiki projects we're working on. I'll try to look at the Interactive Brokers talk page again soon. In the meantime, my best advice is to be patient. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 18:14, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Only Fools Rush In

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A barnstar for your efforts

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Thanks! —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your edit warrring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Battle at Lake Changjin II. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Estnot (talk) 20:18, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

It seems you have reinstated your preferred version of the paragraph, instead of the version that has been stable for about a month, and you still haven't participated in the discussion on the article's talk page. Please join the discussion I started at Talk:The Battle at Lake Changjin II. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 20:41, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

I reinstated my preferred version of the paragraph because that was the stable version of the paragraph prior to your removal of it and also because the responsibility to explain the revert falls squarely on you, not me. Once again I should remind you of the chronology of edits. User 76.11.114.137 authored the original version of the paragraph [1]. You removed it [2] and I reverted your removal.[3]. This means that you are now the one who has now been reverted and should as a result not restore your changes until you have got the consensus on the talk page to do so. (wp:brd) Estnot (talk) 04:25, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

The unsupported claim was originally added by you (not by the IP user), first in early February and then again yesterday after the other version of the paragraph had been stable for a month. In any case, I've responded at the article talk page – we should probably keep discussion centralized there. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Conservative Animal Welfare Foundation

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your work on Ladder (option combination)! I am an options trader and you inspired me to start editing Wikipedia again! I am now editing Covered call in my sandbox and I now hope to improve every Wikipedia article on options strategies! TraderCharlotte (talk) 00:51, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm happy to hear it! There's certainly a lot of room for improvement in articles about this topic area. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:22, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

March songs

March songs

Thank you for support in the RfC for DYK! Listening to the charity concert mentioned here. I created the articles of the composer and the soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Interesting – enjoy the concert! —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 20:44, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

It was on radio, sold olt quickly. Now, you can also listen on YouTube, and more music, the piece by Anna Korsun begins after about one hour, and the voices call "Freiheit!" (freedom, instead of "Freude", joy). Music every day, pictured in songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the link! I'll give it a listen. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 19:00, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

St. Patrick's Day, more music and today's sunset --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting it there – I see it got more than 6000 views yesterday. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 18:35, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Ladder (option combination)

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		Hook update
		Your hook reached 14,935 views (622.3 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of March 2022 – nice work!

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Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. () Hi Mx. Granger, I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team, and after reviewing your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; the new page reviewing team needs help from experienced users like yourself. Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, most pages are easy to review, and habits are quick to develop). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR. If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board. Cheers, and hope to see you around, (t · c) buidhe 20:30, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

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DYK for Chicecream

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		Hook update
		Your hook reached 5,049 views (420.8 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of July 2022 – nice work!

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 04:18, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Regarding Special:Contributions/14.200.217.115's edits on Bamboo network

Judging by the egregious claims and non-constructive edits made by Special:Contributions/14.200.217.115 on top of the tendentious signs of WP:DISRUPTIVE editing by repeatedly removing reliable sources and cited additions posted by other editors as well as violating of WP:REMOVECITE, WP:REFREMOVAL, WP:IDONTLIKEIT, & WP:NOTCENSORED policies on Bamboo network, I was wondering if you can help me report Special:Contributions/14.200.217.115 for disruptive editing as well as request page protection for Bamboo network since I never filed one of these before over my last 3.5 years of editing. Your assistance will be greatly appreciated. SimeonManier (talk) 16:23, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Although I contested the PROD and oppose deletion, I don't think the IP user's edits were disruptive. I would suggest engaging with their concerns on the article's talk page. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 20:30, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Mayu Island

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Undo edit

Please help me understand why my edit of Senator Langfort was undone: - you requested a second source of the voting record. Surely the voting record of the US congress is sufficiently reliable? Would it help if I include a link to a newspaper? - you mentioned that we should not include the entire voting record of each senator. However this is a vote that was decided 86 for and 11 against (his position is a deviation on a non-partisan issue) and on a life and dead issue for many involved. Surely it has at least as much relevance as some of the other votes that are described. If not, why? Thank you in advance! Enrakort (talk) 10:20, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

I asked for a secondary source. Legislators vote on all kinds of bills, and from the sources you cited (a primary source from senate.gov that lists everyone who voted for and against the law, and a source that describes the law but doesn't mention Lankford) I don't see any reason to think that Lankford's vote on that particular bill is important enough to be worth mentioning in the article. If you can provide citations to newspaper articles (or other secondary sources) that discuss Lankford's vote, that would help demonstrate its importance. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 10:33, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Sharbat

Hi, i saw your ping in your edit-summary, i'm not sure to get you correctly, could you tell me what edit on mines you're talking about ? Thanks.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:10, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi Wikaviani, I meant this edit, in which you added the undefined reference named "CIA". —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 12:11, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Ah i see, my bad, i wanted to move some sources from the ice cream article to sharbat since they were more relevant there, but i guess that in the copy-paste process, i screwed up with the CIA source, anyway, on a second thought, that source is not good enough to be cited in the article. Hope to have been clear. Best.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:17, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

FYI re: Wikipedia coverage of the COVID-19 pandemic

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Terrence A. Duffy was in the news today talking about FTX (company) I took a look at the article and then "talk" and it looks like the article was at first being managed entirely by public relations, he was called out on it in talk, and then the article moved to management by his staff with an admission of conflict of interest. Is there a way to alert users to this? and is it really acceptable in any reasonable way? Flibbertigibbets (talk) 20:36, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Does the article have NPOV or verifiability problems (or other issues)? If not, what are we alerting users to? Unless there are issues that need to be addressed, I don't think it would be productive to add a "disclosed paid editing" badge of shame to the top of the article. If badges of shame like that were made standard across the wiki, their main effect would be to create an incentive for more undisclosed paid editing, which is more difficult to keep track of and respond to than disclosed paid editing. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 08:48, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

I see your point, this entry could/perhaps should be an exception to an approach in managing a sitewide concern.

The talk speaks to omissions regarding MF Global; which has parallels to FTX (company); Statements regarding FTX is why I was looking at Terrence A. Duffy. MF Global has a profound influence on the protection of customer funds when they are intermixed with trading..

What I can tell from talk is that this entry is a very bad case of public relations, a worst case. That is still being noticed by people - I agree with Ganesha811 there has to be a warning tag in this instance. I disagree with the justification that Ganesha811 provided.

The justification is that there are known omissions as documented by talk - that are important today with Duffy actually speaking out about FTX and taking the high ground! in retrospect. (even in the context of MF Global!, very ironic) The other justification is the talk itself which outlines the extent the page has been managed. The entry is the worst case of public relations

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If there are important omissions in the article, then by all means rectify them or tag the article accordingly. What I don't support is a permanent tag that stays even after all the problems with the article have been resolved. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 19:18, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

A permanent tag - not a good thing.. agreed.. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 23:11, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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I can see that you are trying to remove any negative comments about Lee Bollinger. Stop doing so because he is referenced by implication. Exmanminor (talk) 16:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

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Much gratitude for the help. I didn’t see that it didn’t say that much in regards to criticisms of hate speech itself. Do you have any other advice I could perhaps use? Wolfquack (talk) 15:22, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

No problem. The word "criticism" in section headings is something that often stands out to me, and it should often be avoided for the reasons described here: WP:CSECTION.

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I think we both watch WHO and I think we are both used to seeing IP vandalism. I think the recent 1946 edit is correct, so I reverted your revert. However, it's complicated and if I've misread it, sorry and please revert me. CT55555(talk) 16:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. The first source says "The Constitution was adopted by the International Health Conference held in New York from 19 June to 22 July 1946, signed on 22 July 1946 by the representatives of 61 States (Off. Rec. Wld Hlth Org., 2, 100), and entered into force on 7 April 1948." The second source says "WHO’s Constitution came into force on 7 April 1948 – a date we now celebrate every year as World Health Day." Neither source supports the IP's initial claim of "7 April 1956" or the IP's subsequent claim of "7 April 1946", as far as I can tell. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 16:52, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I looked quickly and saw the corresponding year in a footnote, so assumed it was a good edit. You've clearly checked it out more carefully. Thanks. I stand corrected. CT55555(talk) 16:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

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