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17:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Musik Question

Hey Musik, was wondering what a "spider" is?? It's one of the options in the page view stats, and I notice that if I click on just that one, it has been pretty busy on my home page...lol. What does it do, and what the heck is it? Thanks, your pal→ Pocketthis (talk) 15:38, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

(tps) See Web crawler. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 16:02, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
@Pocketthis: Yes, there is a little ? symbol next to the "Agent", it brings you to the FAQ :) Sorry this is not obvious enough MusikAnimal talk 16:36, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
  • Thanks guys, Now I just have to figure out why my home page has been visited 130 times by a web crawler in the last 30 days. However, this page has been crawled 629 times in 30 days. Perhaps we are popular with insects. :-) → Pocketthis (talk) 17:27, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Rollback confirmation gadget

Hi MusikAnimal. I have the gadget version of User:MusikAnimal/confirmationRollback-mobile selected in my preferences, so when a thumb accidentally landed on the rollback link on an arbcom page while using my iPad a short time ago, I immediately tapped the "cancel" button. Unfortunately, the rollback happened anyway, so I had to rollback that edit. I thought that maybe I had missed the cancel button, but when I tried it again on my own talk, the same thing happened. I can send you details (OS version, browser, etc.) via email or IRC if you need it. Thanks ​—DoRD (talk)​ 09:50, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

@DoRD: I tried this out on my iPad simulator, running iOS 10.2, and the gadget worked as expected. Perhaps you have a conflicting gadget? Nothing stands out in your common.js as being a problem MusikAnimal talk 13:24, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

MusikBot?

Is he your creation? —usernamekiran[talk] 06:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Indeed! MusikAnimal talk 19:55, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
That's only of of his fabulous creations! --NeilN talk to me 23:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 15, 2017)

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Corruption in the United States

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Bots Newsletter, April 2017

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Twinkle

Also about Twinkle. One year ago I made a proposal to make optional loading of XFD discussion page, but there were no other opinions and it was archived. How can I draw the attention of TW devs or other interested people? Take a look at this - more than 50 times a day Twinkle loaded the FFD page for me without my explicit permission:) A similar situation for the previous day. Thanks to newly enabled PROD for files, there will be less FFD entries from users (including me), but an option that makes optional loading of XFD discussion page still be needed IMO. XXN, 20:37, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

FYI. I think I just found a bug while checking the history of the FFD page for 10 April. Should I report it somewhere else (github/WT:TW), or you can fix it faster (I think these pages aren't watched by devs)? XXN, 20:54, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
Reported this bug on github.[10] XXN, 11:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. Yes GitHub is the best place. The devs are watching it at and WT:TW, but there are a lot of bug reports so although we don't always reply, rest assured we see them :) MusikAnimal talk 16:34, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Wednesday April 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

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We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:30, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 16, 2017)

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Page footer

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Template:Test5 listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Test5. Since you had some involvement with the Template:Test5 redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. UpsandDowns1234 (🗨) (My Contribs) 19:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

4th GA Cup - Wrap Up

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016 GA Cup - Wrap Up

Hello, GA Cup competitors!

Saturday, April 1 concluded the 2016-2017 GA Cup. 64 reviews were completed by our finalists. Although the backlog increased by 42 over the reviewing period instead of declining, the increase suggests that the contest is encouraging editors to nominate articles for review.

Congratulations to Shearonink, who is the winner of the Cup, finishing with 672 points! Once again, just as in last round, this is more than the point totals for all the other competitors combined! It was a close race for second place between Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, who achieved 164 points, and Sturmvogel_66, who earned 150. Though Sturmvogel_66 reviewed one more article than Krishna Chaitanya Velaga, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga managed to earn 14 points more due to reviewing older articles. Our two wildcard competitors, Kees08 and Chris troutman, came in fourth and fifth, respectively.

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AWB and users renamed more than once

NgYShung has been renamed twice, first to QianLing and then QianCheng. But Special:Diff/774972019 only follows the first rename, not the second. If a user has been renamed twice, from A to B and then C, the bot should place C rather than B in WP:AWB/CP. Similarly, if A is renamed to B, which is in turn renamed to C and then D, the bot should place D on the check page, and so on for more renames. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 20:56, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

I consider this very much an edge case, but you're right. What's weird is the bot should have figured out the second rename on its last run, which was earlier today. Having the bot follow all renames every time isn't particularly easy, but I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the report MusikAnimal talk 21:03, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 17, 2017)

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Gerald and Charlene Gallego

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Removing protection templates from protected pages?

See this. If you want me to see your reply please ping me or use TB. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 10:27, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Three years of adminship, today.

Wishing MusikAnimal a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 15:12, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Three years already! Wow. Thanks for the WikiLove :) MusikAnimal talk 20:29, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Happy holiday in Cuba - pageview dataset question

I hope you enjoyed your time in Cuba. There is a user in NYC, Anelsona, who works with Cuban people on the Cuban government Wikipedia equivalent and who wants to bring more Wikimedia access into Cuba. If you have interest in Cuba beyond your vacation then maybe you could talk with her sometime.

I am writing to ask for some guidance. I would like to see a 2016 traffic report on all English Wikipedia articles about drugs. I suppose that might mean all articles drilling down in Category:Drugs, or it might mean all English Wikipedia articles which are instances of medication (Q12140). I have some assistance in this; there is a statistics team at Consumer Reports who would help me sort and present data, if only I could get them a dataset of the daily 2016 traffic to every Wikipedia article on a drug.

Can you give me a suggestion on how to do the following -

  1. Get a list of all drugs which have English Wikipedia articles
  2. Given that list, how should I get daily traffic for it for 2016? Massviews will not collect 365 daily traffic reports for ~5000 articles, right?

Thanks for anything you can share. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:58, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Going a little beyond this, I talked with Doc James about this. Suppose that I wanted to analyze:
  • all Wikimedia medical articles
  • in all languages
  • and noting differences between desktop, mobile, or whatever other types of access there are
Do you have any idea how I could get that larger dataset from which I could do analysis? Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:44, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
@Bluerasberry: Hey! You people at WP:MED are all about getting as much data as possible! =P Massviews now supports up to 20,000 pages for any date range. Unfortunately however it doesn't support recursive category search yet, so something like Category:Drugs won't work :( For this feature you can follow phab:T149334. I think that is next on my list, I know Richard wanted the same feature to get more data for the Met.
As for all medicine pages across all languages, I wish there were an easy way to do this, but there isn't. Doc James at least knows how to get data for all the MED pages here on enwiki, so you could do the same for the other major Wikipedias, if you want. I do like the idea of going off of Wikidata, as then you could indeed do cool things like get the pageviews of pages that are "instance of pharmaceutical drug". For that I've created phab:T164113. It is likely however with that example, you'll end up with more than 20,000 pages in which case Massviews would give up. This is because currently all the processing is done clientside, so you are limited to what your computer can handle. With phab:T157830 I hope to implement a backend service where we can take advantage of server resources and remove the 20,000 page limit. Lots of people want just the data, no charts or pretty interface, so adding the backend service is high up on my list, too.
Sorry I can't help you but so much! We could write one-off scripts to get the data you want, but that's a lot of work and it makes more sense to me to revamp Massviews and the other tools to fulfill needs like this for everyone.
As for Cuba, it was very fun! I wanted to ask people if they had heard of Wikipedia, but my Spanish skills only go but so far. Also, I saw first hand just how rare it is to enjoy internet at all, so I am under the safe assumption the free knowledge movement unfortunately is not widespread in that country. It seems to me that is challenge #1 – getting more people connected to the web. I went all five days without doing so much as checking my email, because at least in Havana you must wait in long lines to get internet, and you are limited to but an hour at a time. In some areas it's almost treated like a drug, where you can pay X amount to get access to someone's connection which is daisy-chained from a series of other households, where if one happens to unplug everyone else looses their connection. It's a real shame to see and was somewhat of a culture shock. I look forward to seeing Wikipedia in the hands of the Cuban people some day MusikAnimal talk 20:29, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
The popular page tool is calculating total pageviews for the WP for the month again.[22] which is nice. Have asked Kaldari about the possibility of going back in time a few months.User_talk:Kaldari#Total_pageviews These numbers include redirects while from my understanding the masspageview tool does not.
I think that explains the 196 M versus 209 M for March 2017 but not entirely sure. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:39, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
Resolved
@MusikAnimal: (I know I should not post to archives, but I am just closing this out.) You are very kind, yes, med people like data but overall I think we are just starting to realize how much there is and how we can become more ready for the flood of opportunity which you are creating. I looked over those tickets you created - you understand my needs, and you described them accurately in the tickets. Thanks for sharing this information with me. It is useful for me to get your confirmation about what is not currently easy to do, and encouraging for me to hear that what you are doing are the things likely to be useful to large numbers of people.
I expect that sometime before the year's end Wiki NYC will host some presentation about Wikipedia in Cuba and other islands. Probably this will happen on a WikiWednesday. I hope that you can join. Blue Rasberry (talk) 21:09, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Pageviews Analysis

Hi MusikAnimal: Is it just me, or has https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews been petering out? Over the last few days when I have tried to use it for various articles, it doesn't load any data, times out and then a message is provided stating, "Fatal error: Operation timed out. Please refresh the page to try again or report this issue". North America1000 23:40, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: I have not received any other reports of this issue lately, and there have been no code changes since April 5. I do believe there was some maintenance of the Pageviews API recently, but that should be resolved now. Perhaps you happened to use it during those brief periods of downtime? Is it working for you now? The tool waits 30 seconds before timing out, so your internet connection could also be at fault here MusikAnimal talk 23:49, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
 Working. North America1000 23:50, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
trout Self-trout, Facepalm Facepalm: Nevermind, it's working. An add-on in my browser was causing the malady. Thanks for the quick reply, though! North America1000 23:53, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 18, 2017)

The Remorse of Orestes, where he is surrounded by the Erinyes, who were identified as chthonic beings, by William-Adolphe Bouguereau, 1862
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Hi, I noticed that this script is not enforcing dom ready before accessing the dom, and not declaring its dependency on mediawiki.util RL module. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 17:04, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@TheDJ: Thanks for letting me know! Does this look right (first block of code)? MusikAnimal talk 23:00, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
Much better :) —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 07:33, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

19:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

NPR

Hi. Salzburger Kunstverein is a classic example of tag-bombing and typical of the reasons I campaigned for a user right for page patrolling. The patroller doesn’t appear to have done any research and therefore ignores what a ‘’Kunsteverein’’ is in the German language region and even its German WP article, and did not provide this good faith new-article creator with any tips. As you know, I’ve given up on my 6-year campaign to get NPP improved, so as you accorded the right here, perhaps you could have a word with them and maybe also run a check across their other patrols - MrX is generally a user whose knowledge and work I appreciate. Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:05, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

I suppose we could just ping him here: MrX MusikAnimal talk 23:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
@Kudpung: if you disagree with how I patrolled this or any other article, you could have tried to discuss it with me first. I routinely do a minimal amount of research for any articles that I tag during a page review, including Google searches, reviewing citations, and reading the article. In this case, I believe that the tags I placed are reasonable given the article content. I have no idea why you think I owed the article creator any tips beyond the template suggestion (with links) in the tags themselves. While it would be nice, it's completely unrealistic given that number of articles to be reviewed.
I find it a bit ironic that that you are the person complaining about the NPP queue growing so fast and yet you find the time to suggest that another admin talk to me and review my other patrols. NPP is a thankless job and you just made it a little more thankless. Any admin who believes that the thousands of patrols that I've made over the past five years are not a net positive for the project is welcome to revoke the bit.- MrX 23:28, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
MrX, I don't see where irony comes into it. I’ve given up on my 6-year campaign to get NPP improved - that has been thankless enough, and my genuine concern here does not deserve you suggesting that I do not find your edits a net positive. That said, There may be a huge backlog but it has always been obvious that good patrolling rather than speed is quintessential. I don't find time because I'm on a Wikibreak - don't you think I deserve that after all the hours I put into Wikpedia for free? A quick stab to do some patrollng (not that my 20 patrols will make any difference to the 20,000) while I did have time to help out with the backlog immediately revealed in seconds that not only is the situation still not improving, but it's getting decidedly worse. It took only seconds to make the updated graph - nobody else is bothering or even gives too hoots about the situation - the WMF does not appear to be overly concerned either and I, of course therefore, am now past caring. At least you are among the tiny handful of users who have been watching Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers and I thank you for that. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:44, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Here's my take... For starters, even in its older state, the article doesn't seem overly promotional. I would remove the mission statement, but it otherwise is not too bad. Notability is questionable, but I did find one NY Times article with some information [28], others look like passing mentions. So that I won't refute that, and it's also true much of the content is supported by a primary source. That being said I don't think MrX was too out of line here. I personally would would have waited a little more time before tagging, and leaving a welcome template never hurts, even if it's a "problem welcome" template. Page Curation makes it pretty easy to leave the user a personal note, and I think Twinkle automatically leaves a welcome template, no? If not I can make it do that :) I hate to draw this contrast, but the later edits by Ymblanter and JJMC89 were very helpful, and obviously the more ideal way to deal with an apparent good-faith creation (especially copyright removal!). This will slow you down as far as tackling the backlog, but you may find you'll get an equal sense of satisfaction. I'll also note MrX didn't actually mark the page as patrolled, and hence is not "abusing" their patrolling privileges, per se. And that's what's most alarming... no one – MrX or any of the three subsequent page patrollers – actually marked the page as patrolled. Is there a bug, or did everyone actually forget?!? Obviously if you don't mark it as patrolled you're not helping the backlog :) MusikAnimal talk 06:45, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

@MrX, Exemplo347, Ymblanter, and JJMC89: Nevermind the above, I am curious why all of you made patroller-like edits to Salzburger Kunstverein but did not mark the page as patrolled? Did you intentionally leave it unpatrolled? Is there a bug in the software? Maybe Mz7 and Exemplo just wanted a second opinion, but Ymblanter and JJMC89, you both (nobly) made substantial edits to bring the article to an acceptable state. At that point surely you are OK with removing the article from the backlog? MusikAnimal talk 21:02, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

In the morning, I was not sure that the middle part is not copyvio (I had a quick check which did not give anything). I did not have much time and left it unpatrolled. I would have probably come back in the evening but it was already in a good shape.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
@MusikAnimal: I generally don't mark pages as "patrolled" unless I've given them a thorough going over, including a quick check of sources etc. In this case, all I did was fix a few formatting errors and add an improvement tag using AutoWikiBrowser (which, incidentally, does not show if an article is "patrolled" or not.) Exemplo347 (talk) 21:14, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
I can't remember specifically why I did not mark the article as reviewed, but usually I will not mark an article as reviewed if I think it may be a borderline CSD/AfD/PROD candidate, or if I suspect WP:COPYVIO issues but couldn't find any myself. My hope is that a second reviewer can make a final determination. In this case, I think I would have normally marked it as reviewed, but possibly forgot.
In response to your and Kudpung's comments above, I think there are different approaches to page reviewing and personal judgement will vary from editor to editor. If anything, the notability tag that I placed was probably the least defensible. I stand by the advert tag, while acknowledging that the issues were minor and very fixable. @Kudpung, yes of course you deserve as much of a Wikibreak as you want. But I don't think it's fair to point out an example of my page reviewing that you disagree with as an example of why NPP needed to be a user right. I routinely see new articles tagged with 4-7 tags; articles inappropriately G11ed; page patrollers that do nothing but add useless no cat tags or orphan tags; and extremely hasty CSD tagging. I think it's usually more productive to ask why a patroller did something, before hinting that they should not be patrolling at all. Perspective is important.- MrX 22:01, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
I only went to the page due to Kudpung mentioning it here, not to patrol it. I didn't even check whether the page was patrolled or not. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:11, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2017).

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"must wait for the document to be ready"

Isn't that exactly what the outer $(function() { ... }); does? — Earwig talk 00:30, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

@The Earwig: I thought so too, but I think the anonymous function is just a way to add closure and not let the variables leak into the global scope. TheDJ probably knows more... :) Anyway hopefully that's OK that I made that change! I got very excited that I finally figured out the issue. On Chrome at least, half the time the script and others wouldn't load (unless it was in my common.js). See also phab:T149449 MusikAnimal talk 00:41, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, but... — Earwig talk 00:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Well that's enough to convince me! I'll undo my mess MusikAnimal talk 00:46, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
I see, User:MusikAnimal/responseHelper.js was using a "vanilla" anon function, and not wrapped in jQuery, hence why TheDJ pointed it out. A little embarrassing that it's taken me this long to figure this out MusikAnimal talk 00:48, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Ah ha, that would make sense. Appreciate your looking into it, nevertheless! — Earwig talk 00:50, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 19, 2017)

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Lars von Trier

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Previous selections: Chthonic • Gerald and Charlene Gallego


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JavaScript RegExp problem

I noticed your JavaScript genius userbox, and was hoping you could help me with a problem I've run into writing a userscript.

Please see my post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject JavaScript#Nested RegExp.

Thank you. The Transhumanist 11:31, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have time to help right now :( It looks like there are some regex experts chiming in on the discussion though. Hope you get it figured out! MusikAnimal talk 15:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Massive removal of content without consensus and there also seems to be some sort of filter setting,can you check whether this account is a single purpose account and whether this user has initiated this filter to circumvent any changes of theirs. Meanwhile kindly revert to Arjayay's last edit. Thank You.

Arjayay's last edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mar_Thoma_Syrian_Church&oldid=777121053

Can you also provide links to where to read about automated filters and its settings, for process understanding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.213.18.168 (talkcontribs)

The place to raise your concerns would be at Talk:Mar Thoma Syrian Church, so that others familiar with the subject can chime in. You can ping other users with the code {{ping|Example}}. Hope this helps MusikAnimal talk 15:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Re: the filters that blocked your edits, it looks like those might indeed be false positives. I can try to look into it but WP:EF/FP is the venue used to report false positives. Someone there may be able to help you quicker. Best MusikAnimal talk 15:21, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Actually it looks like it blocked your edit because it contained the word "JEWS" in all caps. This is a tricky one... in your case it was the URL of a citation. We will have to look into this. In the meantime, as I said, try consulting the concerned users on the article talk page. If necessary someone can make the changes on your behalf MusikAnimal talk 15:26, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

responseHelper

For some reason, responseHelper only works for the edit summaries, but not inserting the template on the actual page. Can you help? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks! Jdcomix (talk) 17:22, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure, no one else has reported any issues. You can check your JS console for errors, see WP:JSERROR. However, with all due respect, you might want to reconsider responding to any requests as a non-admin. This is often frowned upon MusikAnimal talk 20:10, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

02:25, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

About 'confirmed user'

Hello, isn't confirmed user and autoconfirmed user are two different user group in Wikipedia? ferdous 12:58, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

They effectively are the same, only "confirmed" may be manually granted by admins so that accounts don't have to wait to be automatically confirmed ("autoconfirmed"). See Wikipedia:User access levels#Confirmed users for more MusikAnimal talk 15:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
thanks for the response. I applied for the 'confirmed user' group because I want to use the translation feature. Your bot replied there by mentioning autoconfirmation. Please check it manually. ferdous 03:08, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

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Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes

A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures to enable the ⧼Visualeditor-preference-newwikitexteditor-label⧽.

A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. [36]

The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The <references /> block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [37]

Other changes:

  • You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this. [38]
  • The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow. [39]
  • The Categories item has been moved to the top of the Page options menu (from clicking on the "hamburger" icon) for quicker access. [40] There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there. [41]
  • You can now create <chem> tags (sometimes used as <ce>) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor. [42]
  • Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed. [43]
  • The Special character menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) . The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt. [44]
  • A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed. The team are sorry for the disruption. [45]
  • There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations: Control+Shift+K on a PC, or Command+Shift+K on a Mac. It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which is Control+K on a PC or Command+K on a Mac. [46]

Future changes

  • The VisualEditor team is working with the Community Tech team on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of <ref> tags and other types of wikitext syntax. You will be able to turn it on and off. It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017. [47]
  • The kind of button used to Show preview, Show changes, and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI. The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read. The labels will remain the same. You can test the new button by editing a page and adding &ooui=1 to the end of the URL, like this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1 The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes. [48]
  • The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors. See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use. [49]

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Morning Musik could you possibly tell me if this page has been nonindexed and if so if the template tag can be removed?Masterknighted (talk) 12:49, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

@Masterknighted: Jacques Rosas was unreviewed using Page Curation, this removed the indexing, as any article that is unpatrolled or under 30 days old is not indexed. However you are autopatrolled, so this page should not have showed up in Special:NewPagesFeed at all. Going by the revision history I think it did... otherwise it's strange patrollers during the same short timeframe. I will look into this! MusikAnimal talk 15:38, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
I have also re-patrolled it, so it should be indexed now MusikAnimal talk 15:39, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
I see what happened... Onel5969 must have used Special:NewPagesFeed to view all recently created pages (including ones that were already patrolled). He then unpatrolled it, which in turn meant other patrollers showed up to edit it (since it then showed up in the unpatrolled list). So there ya have it! Unfortunately I don't think you can re-patrol your own pages, but if this happens again you could check the log, then ask the user who unpatrolled it to give it another review. Hope this helps! MusikAnimal talk 15:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

MusikBot

Hey, do you think your bot can run with a one-minute delay, given edits such as in here? It's not necessary that the bot's edits be done instantly, right? Drmies (talk) 01:42, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

No, not necessary, but here it was incidental. The bot runs on a 10-minute schedule, as you can see 23:10, 23:20, 01:40. With the most revert, indeed it got in the way of your rollback, which is definitely not ideal :/ But the same issue would have happened to DangerousJXD: If they had rollback (they don't), they wouldn't be able to use it due to the bot edits, yet in that case the bot waited 8 and 9 minutes after the last edit. So a delay isn't the solution, it seems. The only thing I can think of is that the bot could go off of ORES to determine if the last edit was likely vandalism, and if so, don't edit. Fun idea but not sure how easy it will be to implement MusikAnimal talk 03:07, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Gotcha. I didn't know it ran on a schedule. SineBot runs immediately, right? There's much that I don't know, though I am realizing that the two vandals in that article are probably one person. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:28, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) @Drmies: Per the docs: "Except on pages that are frequently modified, the bot will normally give editors a grace period (a minute or so) to sign and date unsigned/undated comments before assuming that a particular editor forgot to sign." --NeilN talk to me 04:34, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Filter 852

I have no idea how filters work, but I was wondering why continued edits by the IP (e.g. this) apparently hadn't been picked up the filter? Cheers, Number 57 11:55, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't know why

I don't know why, but until now I thought that this was a bot account. Apparently you are an actual user - sorry I didn't notice sooner haha. --TheSandDoctor (talk) 05:29, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

@TheSandDoctor: User talk:MusikBot redirects here. Maybe that's why you're confused? :) MusikAnimal talk 14:28, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Quite possibly haha. I've seen MusikBot around a lot at WP:PERM etc as well as you and somehow thought them to be the same haha (I realize the difference now). --TheSandDoctor (talk) 14:33, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

FilterMonitor config

As a non-EFM who watches the recent filter changes feed, I was a bit annoyed that the names of private filters (which are public) were not showing up in the list. The link to the filter provides no information whatsoever for private filters. So I tried changing the bot configuration JSON...as far as I know I made no syntax errors, but it appears that the bot got confused and spit out a decades-long history of filter modifications? I'm not sure what happened. – Train2104 (t • c) 16:25, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

I know you saw my revert, but to repeat it here, I will look into fixing this. Including the description was something we decided from the beginning that we didn't want to do (hence why that feature was never tested), but you're right that these descriptions are already public. We generally try to give LTA/sock filters ambiguous names, too, so this shouldn't be a problem MusikAnimal talk 18:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 20, 2017)

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help for a beginner

on may 12 the first 'on this day' entry ran--May 12: Birth of Muhammad al-Mahdi (Shia Islam, 2017) the article states that the general concensus is that he was born in 869 c.e. i posted a message on the main page errors talk page, and when i saw later that it hadn't been changed i posted a similar message. the next day i received a notification from user Stephen that my edit had been reverted, with a message that rather baldly stated 'it has already been explained to you'. i hadn't received an explanation and wrote a message to Stephen asking for clarification, if they had the time and energy, but haven't heard back. your username showed up on one of the messages, and on your userpage i was quite happy to see that you like to help beginners, but a little distressed to see that one of your specialties is dealing with vandalism. if you have the time to explain how a message on a talk page can be viewed as an edit that can be reverted it would help me understand a little more how wikipedia works, and if you could help clear my name of any charges of vandalism i may inadvertently accrued i would be very thankful. and as far as the 'on this day' entry goes, i figure if it was somehow not incorrect i don't see how it could be construed as not incomprehensible. i feel bad about asking for your time, but this has me pretty confused. thanks, Potholehotline (talk) 03:55, 15 May 2017 (UTC) Potholehotline (talk) 03:55, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

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Sunday May 21, 10:30 am - 4:30pm: Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon

The Metropolitan Museum of Art Edit-a-thon: Met Open Access Initiative is the Metropolitan Museum of Art's first edit-a-thon, being hosted on Sunday May 21, 2017 in Thomas J. Watson Library at The Met Fifth Avenue in New York City.

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Mosul-Deir Ezzor-Palmyra offensive

I'm guilty of this form. I accidentally pressed the Save page. I need to get from the start with Admin and all other members and help to open and edit it right this article. Why? I'm responsible. Help me, please, or rearrange. The battle for the city of Mosul has nothing to do with the battle in the west of the province. These operations are aimed at Deir ez-Zor penetration from the east to the Euphrates. Similarly Airport T4 Palmyra offensive (2017) from January to March in prokrajini East Homs. Eastern Homs offensive (2017). --Baba Mica (talk) 19:19, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Bot clerking question

No rush on this question - definitely don't let it interfere with what I hope is an excellent vacation.

At WP:RFP/A a request was added with User: prefixed. As a result the bot clerked it as a non-existent User:User:. The requester fixed the section header, and I fixed the transclusion of {{rfplinks}}. I also removed MusikBot's clerking in the expectation that would force it to re-clerk the correct username - but that hasn't happened. So, my question, what triggers MusikBot to clerk a request?

Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 09:34, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

The grant has been made without any clerking, so the non-rush is even less now. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 17:58, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
If it didn't comment then the user met all qualifications, and there were no other issues detected with the request. The full list of functionality is at User:MusikBot/PermClerk#Tasks. Best MusikAnimal talk 14:50, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorting in Revision history statistics

Hi, in X!'Tools Page history tab found under Revision history statistics link at History tab (example from cswiki) columns with fractional numbers are not sorted right: 40 gets sorted between 3.3 and 5.4. Could this be caused by comma/period delimiter issue (Czech language uses comma while X!'Tools uses periods) or are all those affected columns (%, atbe) sorted as strings? Regards --09:28, 18 May 2017 (UTC), Utar (talk)

Hey! This issue will be fixed in the new version of XTools which you can expect to be out in the coming months. Stay tuned! :) MusikAnimal talk 14:52, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

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People enjoying some leisure time swimming at an oasis
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

Topics this month include the TED wikiproject, the Met wikiproject, and encouraging free video on Wikimedia Commons!

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street

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Definition of Speedy Approval

Hi, I am a crat on Wikispecies and have a couple of bot requests for there that are being considered for speedy approval. They use AWB to do repetitive editing in short bursts. Both accounts were formerly doing this on their own main accounts but it was recommended to them to make bot accounts due to high volume. The content has been previously discussed and there is no issues with the edits being performed. In any case, I have never had to consider a bot for this type of approval. I would appreciate it if you would briefly tell me, or point me to an explanation, of what would permit you to speedily approve vs approve a bot. At present I am basically assuming it would mean to approve without trial as the main difference. Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 16:53, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

@Faendalimas: Speedy approval (no trial) would be used for a case such as yours. More at Wikipedia:Bot Approvals Group/Guide#Closures. Best MusikAnimal talk 20:25, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

22:09, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Phabricator Task

Hi, I'd like to know if you have time to see this. Regards and Thanks. —Alvaro Molina ( - ) 06:58, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't really know what the protocol is for granting rights on the beta cluster, so I'll leave it for someone who does. Sorry! MusikAnimal talk 13:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

What's the dealio with AWB approvals?

Okay, I just saw you approved someone for AWB who requested approval yesterday, not to mention all the other approvals of ones who've requested access after me. Some of us have been waiting a week like myself. I know there was some delay due to a leave of absence but that is over. Have I done something wrong in my request? I have over 2,000 non-automated edits. Did I not ask for the right reasons or not give enough information? If I am going to be denied, I would have preferred that happen right away, not being dragged on for so long. I have tried to be patient, but seeing today's approval is the last straw. Would sincerely appreciate some insight. Thanks! dawnleelynn(talk) 18:45, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

@Dawnleelynn: The ones I've been responding to were more straightforward, while yours and others required more digging and evaluation. There's more to it than just checking if the prerequisites have been met. Fortunately it looks like I'm finally getting some help over there! :) So hopefully you'll get your yes/no soon. Apologies for the long wait MusikAnimal talk 12:49, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. I appreciate the explanation of the process, that is helpful. And I did not realize your circumstances. But, yes, someone yesterday asked me some more specific questions. I did get an approval today after I supplied the additional information yesterday. Glad you got additional assistance. Forgive if I was brusque. Again, I appreciate your assistance. I only work under deadlines on WP infrequently, so sometimes forget what that is like. Anyway, happy trails to you! dawnleelynn(talk) 15:54, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

MusikBot bug

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MusikBot/FilterMonitor/Recent_changes&oldid=782279078

There's some kind of unclosed span.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:14, 27 May 2017 (UTC).

This week's article for improvement (week 22, 2017)

Karl Pearson (27 March 1857 – 27 April 1936) was a statistician who has been credited for establishing the discipline of mathematical statistics.
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Re:

Sorry for being late...handling brunodam is one of the boriest tasks of mine and I've been procrastinating job execution tooooooo long. --Vituzzu (talk) 20:26, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

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Beverage vending machines in Japan
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An issue

Musikbot stated that I didn't meet the prerequisites for a user right, even though I do. Gamebuster19901 (TalkContributions) 08:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Gamebuster19901, the bot gave your current non-automated tally. It didn't say anything about prerequisites. It's my understanding that any user with <500 non-automated edits gets flagged in that manner. Primefac (talk) 11:51, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Primefac The edit summary stated that I had "unmet prerequisites". Gamebuster19901 (TalkContributions) 01:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Shows you how much attention I pay to edit summaries... Primefac (talk) 01:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
I can change the edit summary. Internally these figures are known as "prerequisites" (same is true with the admin instructions), but in practice they are not. It is a guideline at best, it ultimately all falls on admin discretion MusikAnimal talk 15:22, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

The future of NPP and AfC/Work group

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Script fix

FYI: I fixed spamublock.jsTheDJ (talkcontribs) 07:58, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Nice! Thank you very much! :D MusikAnimal talk 17:48, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

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Footage can be processed in a video editing room.
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Thursday June 22, 6-8:30pm: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ MoMA

Join us for an evening of social Wikipedia editing at the Museum of Modern Art Library's third annual Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon, during which we will create, update, and improve Wikipedia articles pertaining to LGBT art, culture and history.

All are invited, with no specialized knowledge of the subject or Wikipedia editing experience required.

Themes for this event include art related to HIV/AIDS activism and on LGBTQ artists of the African Diaspora as part of the Black Lunch Table project.

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For your hard work on providing NPP statistics. I know this is your volunteer account, but those are always nicer to get shiny things on. Thank you so much. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:10, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! Your input and help with this project has also not gone unnoticed, and is greatly appreciated :) I look forward to providing more stats soon MusikAnimal talk 16:02, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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Filter 860

Hi MA, I reenabled "warn" on this - we are giving out a lot of WP:VOA blocks on this, if they actually stop after a warning they get a pass right now. We are hoping this is a short lived attack. — xaosflux Talk 00:45, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

See WP:EFN for current discussion - if this goes on for a few days, no issue with changing to block only. Basically, trying to avoid these people getting creative. — xaosflux Talk 00:50, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Replied there. Best MusikAnimal talk 01:07, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

15:44, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Possible curation bug

Bothering you here over what is a relatively minor (and somewhat personal issue) rather than posting on one of the already too long NPP pages. I came across Pietro Campori, a a biography about a guy who was twice the runner up to be pope that I created yesterday. Page curation has him tagged as no citations, which is certainly not the case. Any idea what might be causing that? I don't want to start a phab task if there is already one on it. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

@TonyBallioni: Good catch! I don't believe this is a known issue. When I look at the page directly, Page Curation does not report any issues, but indeed at Special:NewPagesFeed it says "No citations". There is some caching involved, but it should be invalidated (I think) every time there's an edit to that page. If you could create a phab that'd be great. Thanks! MusikAnimal talk 01:19, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Done T168350. There was literally no version of the page, draft or live, that didn't have a reference. It was in sfn format, which is my suspicion as to what causes the bug. Thanks for the review even though this isn't your area. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:24, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that in fact is the issue! I will comment on the phab. Thanks for creating it MusikAnimal talk 01:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

The bot is removing pp templates

Hello MusikAnimal! I have noticed that the bot has been removing the pp=yes template on some pages which are still under pending change protection, which is how I find out about it. Is this an error or am I not understanding what the bot is doing? Thanks, d.g. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 19:00, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

@L3X1: I believe TheMagikBOT should be adding {{pp-pc1}} or {{pp|action=autoreview}} and not {{pp}} by itself. Or, Template:Pp needs to be reworked so that it doesn't put the page in Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates when the page is under pending-changes protection. MusikBot goes off of that category and assumes {{pp}} by itself refers to normal edit protection. Pinging TheMagikCow.
I have looked into this and found an issue with the API response in some cases. A normal API response, like this gives information about the type and level of protection. However, sometimes, some pages come back with a response like this which don't give any information about wetaher the page is autoconfirmed protected or pc protected. TheMagikCow (T) (C) 08:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
@TheMagikCow: Within MediaWiki, mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs (also known as pending changes) is not considered "protection", rather that a page is "flagged". You'll need to add prop=flagged to get this information [84]. Hope this helps MusikAnimal talk 19:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
That's brilliant - thanks very much for that info. I will now implement that into the bot. TheMagikCow (T) (C) 08:24, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Also, not sure why this revert was warranted? The change looks constructive to me, and either way "Page is protected" is not a valid reason to reject it MusikAnimal talk 19:24, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for explaining to me. d.g. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 19:39, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 26, 2017)

A deadpan emoji.
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nonautomated_edits

Hello, wish you in good health, I wanna ask if we can use this tool in ar.wikipedia? --Alaa :)..! 12:48, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

@علاء: I will get back to you on this. There is a new version of XTools that will be released soon, and it will include a non-automated edit counter that works for all wikis. However, it only looks for edits made using known tools, and the current list only accounts for those that are used on the English Wikipedia. I will try to add a way for users to request new tools be added, so that slowly over time it will be more useful on other wikis such as arwiki. MusikAnimal talk 21:36, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

X Tools

XTools is not reporting WPCleaner edits. '0' returned for one user who has made over 8,000 edits with it in the last month. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:09, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

@Kudpung: Which user? I will make sure this is fixed in the new version of XTools. The beta version will be released VERY soon! :) MusikAnimal talk 17:21, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
It was User:AvalerionV who has made around 8,000 edits in just one month at the speed of a bot. Further investigation shows that it appears that except only 100 or so, they were made with WPcleaner script. It's possible, of course, that I'm missing something. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:59, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Sorry if it's a bad thing using a bot to fix some minor issues in articles. >.> Dawood Khan 11:48, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
X-Tools returning blank results. E.g.: https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Chrissymad&project=en.wikipedia.org Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:31, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
This happens every once in awhile, and when it does just check back in 5-10 minutes and it should work. It won't be a problem with the new XTools, which again will be released very soon! MusikAnimal talk 14:40, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 27, 2017)

Ultraviolet photography is one of the many visual technologies. This image of the rings of Saturn is an example of the application of ultraviolet photography in astronomy.
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A message from Daanv

I think I am far more qualified to write about Cuaybeno than anybody else in the entire world. See my profiles: https://www.facebook.com/DrDaanVreugdenhil and https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdaanvreugdenhil/ and my co-authered document: http://www.birdlist.org/downloads/parks/estrategia_conservacion_areas_silvestres_sobresalientes_ecuador.pdf

I discovered processed and enlarged the area (original 150,000 ha to 600,000) but if you as a music maker chose to erase the contributions of a lifetime PhD conservationist, who processed the creation of the park, then I am not going to waste my time. Btw, what I wrote about the reserve is a fact: There is no other Amazon park in the Andes countries with plaines. That is what makes the reserve so special.

But a musician knows better, and my website score far better on cuyabeno than Wiki, so good luck with your rules. Funny to see that other lodges with far less authority are now allowed on your article.

Cheers, Dr. Daan Vreugdenhil

Daanv (talk) 20:52, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi Daanv! The issue is not that you are not qualified to be writing about this subject, or that I somehow know more than you (I don't). Rather, the issue was the content lacked sources, and was a bit promotional in tone. Wikipedia is based solely on previously published information, hence why we never consider Wikipedia itself to be a "source". Rather, it's like an essay based on a collection of sources. I'm certain the content you added is factual, but the reader does not know that, or that you are an expert, apart from someone else who may be making things up entirely. That's why we have to add citations to reliable sources to back up the claims. You can learn more about why verifiability is important and how to add citations by reading the introduction to referencing. Hope this helps! MusikAnimal talk 17:48, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Possible bug in curation tool

Check this out please? I used curation tool for AfD, and it piggy-backed to a 2005 AfD. Atsme📞📧 20:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

I can file a bug for this. Best MusikAnimal talk 17:50, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, need some help, can you please tell, what is the easiest way to get top 100 rows from your tool "Topviews Analysis" to Google Sheets( in .csv format) directly and automatically from website?

Thanks! Jurr23 (talk) 13:37, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) (c.f. meta:Talk:Pageviews_Analysis/Archives/2016/3#Topviews_.E2.80.93_how_to_download_directly). — xaosflux Talk 21:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
I see that post is written almost year ago and i would like to ask is that download=true added for now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurr23 (talkcontribs) 10:28, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi Jurr23, the download=true option was never added, but for the same reasons I described in that post, I don't think this is the best way to offer such functionality. Instead I want to implement a backend that you can hit directly. I plan work on this soon, hopefully within the coming month or two. You can follow phab:T157830 for updates. I assume you are aware you can manually browse to Topviews and download as CSV. Hopefully that will hold you off for the time being :) Sorry I cannot help you any further! MusikAnimal talk 16:45, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, but i would like to ask another question: is there any sql sentence what gives the same information as there are in your tool "Topviews Analysis" from Mediawiki database? I myself thought that watchlist could help, but i am not sure because i got errors that this table does not exists? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jurr23 (talkcontribs) 08:02, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

@Jurr23: Pageviews data is not in the MediaWiki database, but rather offered by the Wikimedia REST API, specifically the /metrics/pageviews/top endpoint. The raw data given by it does not filter out known false positives or incorporate editing data. The latter is in the MediaWiki database, and could be fetched with a query like this. Topviews filtering data is in a private database but you might be able to use it's API. I'm not sure if it blocks cross-origin requests. MusikAnimal talk 15:15, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 28, 2017)

Chickens at a market in Mazatlan, Sinaloa, Mexico
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This week's article for improvement (week 29, 2017)

The room of the editor-in-chief for the Seattle Daily Times in 1900
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I see your helper script for New Page Reviewer to add new user group members to the mailing list has been disabled and a separate button put in its place. Admins are not using it and I'm finding myself having to clean up after them and add the names manually. Was there a reason for this change that I missed? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:51, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

It has not been disabled and should still be working. The "Update mailing list" link was added as a reminder for admins who aren't using the script, per this discussion MusikAnimal talk 14:49, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Then I don't know, but I had to go through all the month's requests and add manually add about 10 to the mailing list. I also noticed that some users had not received the confirmation message either, but I just could not be bothered to do that as well. I think this could be information for your next admin newsletter. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:53, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 30, 2017)

Illustration of Dijkstra's algorithm search, a search algorithm for finding path from a start node (lower left, red) to a goal node (upper right, green) in a robot motion planning problem.
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Sunday July 30: Action=History Wiki-Hackathon @ Ace Hotel

On the last Sunday of every month, the Boardroom at Ace Hotel New York hosts Action Equals History — a unique opportunity for New Yorkers to learn hands-on in a technology training/workshop session about the mechanics, practices and benefits of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia projects. This is an opportunity for all to gather, share and work collectively towards a more robust account of history.

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Hi MusikAnimal,

When I tried to use one of your scripts linked, it didn't work. I saw the Nightpedia link, clicked on it, got nothing. I use Google Chrome. -- 1989 00:22, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

@1989: Yeah sorry, it's been broken for a while... :( Fortunately I can tell you that you're not missing out on much, heh. I never really finished it. There is a similar and more complete script by Dispenser available in Gadgets > Appearance > "Use a black background with green text". Give that a try. Hope this helps! MusikAnimal talk 00:44, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Green on black skin needs some updating (re-skinning the edit form and T147667 fixed). With the short summer nights I haven't spent time on it. I'd like to end up with something that can be easily palette swapped to more pleasing color (like your skin). In the meantime, Stylish has a few skin, with Wikipedia Dark (ST) notable for have styles for table cells. — Dispenser 18:47, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 31, 2017)

The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide was adopted by the United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948. Pictured is an image denoting global participation in the Genocide Convention in 2008.
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Djmelt (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2017 (UTC) Hi MusikAnimal, the page of Consumers Distributing is blocked for six months and generally it should be blocked only few days. Please unlock this page because we can't edit anything if we have something to edit. Thank you. Djmelt (talk) 13:39, 2 August 2017 (UTC) From Djmelt, August 2 2017.

Edit filter 860

Hello, I'd like to see if the following can be added to the edit filter in question. I do not have EFM rights and cannot make this change, but I would like to request that the filter be expanded to include talk pages as well. As an editor who has witnessed the vandalizing edit requests at Talk:Cheez Whiz before that page's eventual protection, this is a concerning issue for me among many other editors who look at these edit requests.

If this is not possible, can it be included in a separate edit filter that handles such edits? Thanks in advance, and please let me know if this has already been included or addressed. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 16:34, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

@Jd22292: Have you seen this disruption on other talk pages? I've got the filter to run on just Talk:Cheez Whiz for now, and have removed protection. MusikAnimal talk 19:19, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
@MusikAnimal: Sadly, this is the only page I've noticed this on. I suspect the reason behind the edit requests is due to a phrase that the individual in question made that mentioned the product. Something along the lines of "No, but I got Cheez Whiz!" jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 21:18, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

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SQL help

Hi there. Thanks for the tips at meta. I currently use the API with a query like https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=usercontribs&ucuser=SoWhy&uclimit=500&ucdir=older&ucnamespace=4 to get all my contributions in the Wikipedia:-namespace. I wanted to try a quarry to get the same info but I noticed that the revision table does not store either the page name or the namespace. That seems to be in the page table which only holds the latest revisions. I think there is a way to create a query that combines searching both but my SQL is so rusty I cannot figure it out. Would you mind giving me another tip? Regards SoWhy 19:55, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@SoWhy: Sure thing! We just need to JOIN with the page table so we can get the columns of both. Check out quarry:query/20699. I also re-joined with revision so you can get the size of the edits. The revision table contains "rev_len" but this is just the overall size of the page at the time of that revision. Finally, I limited it to 500 edits so it'd go faster, but if you need all edits just remove the LIMIT clause at the bottom. Best, MusikAnimal talk 16:28, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! Unfortunately, now I'm hooked and will probably bother you some more For example, I think I understand the syntax now but I am baffled why this query doesn't work. Regards SoWhy 17:11, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
No worries, I don't mind being bothered :) In the database, page titles always have underscores instead of spaces. So consider quarry:query/20702 MusikAnimal talk 17:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
D'oh. I completely forgot. Thanks! Now I just need someone to give me access to the toolserver and I can try those queries with real scripts Regards SoWhy 18:19, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Everything you need to know can be found at wikitech:Help:Toolforge. Toolforge is the name of this service, by the way. Toolserver was shutdown in 2015 :) Best MusikAnimal talk 23:16, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 32, 2017)

Films based upon the theme of blackmail have been made, such as the 1929 film Blackmail.
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User:MusikBot/ECPMonitor/Report: List only when there is change

I noticed that my name was put on this list when I semi-protected Richard B. Spencer for editing. The reason seems to be that there was a previous move ecp still active that I did not change (and did not enact). It occurred to me that perhaps it's not desirable for things to work this way - I don't think someone not changing a protection parameter is quite the same as enacting or endorsing it, which I suspect is what we want the list to focus on. Thoughts? Samsara 14:46, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

The "Preview" section

Hi MusikAnimal, I was wondering if you could help with a technical problem. Maybe others have already brought it up. When I am editing, and I click on the "preview" button, the script reverts back to the top of the page (like it used to years ago), causing me to have to scroll down to find where I was editing. I assume this is now happening with everyone. Can it be repaired? Johnsmith2116 (talk) 10:40, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Hmm yeah maybe that was a recent change, but this should be desired behaviour, no? The purpose of "Preview" is to review the content. It would then seem helpful that it auto-scrolls you to the content MusikAnimal talk 14:39, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I think you're talking about two different things. OP is talking about the edit window, which used to stay at the line you were editing. Now, when you edit a big page somewhere in the middle, and hit "preview", it reverts to the top of the edit window instead of staying where the last edit was made. Primefac (talk) 14:47, 12 August 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
Yes, I meant the edit window, sorry. It really would help if it would stay in place to save time and effort. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 19:18, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Bah, I see. Hmm, I don't know if that's a new bug or what. I tried searching on Phabricator but didn't find an existing task, but I can help you write a new one :) I would first bring this up at WP:VPT, though. People there might know more, when it started happening, etc. Also, I highly recommend User:Anomie/ajaxpreview, which will not only make previewing faster, but will also retain your scroll position in the edit window MusikAnimal talk 20:14, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 33, 2017)

An automobile engine is an example of an intermediate good, and is used in the production of the final good, the assembled automobile.
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A beer for you!

Because I owe you one and I won't forget! Loved going to karaoke with you and making a fool of myself, and I can't wait to do it again! :-) Katietalk 23:23, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
It was a blast! So glad I got to hang out with THE KrakatoaKatie! :) See you in Cape Town, I hope! MusikAnimal talk 01:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Auto confirmed to Confirmed.

Hi, I have applied at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Confirmed thrice but every time it says already done.I have 150+ edits and have more than a years experience on wiki although for the first 8 months or so, I was inactive but after that I have been active continuously. Kindly help.Thank you.Bingobro(Contributions)

@Bingobro: Autoconfirmed and confirmed are one and the same. Go to Special:Preferences and look for "member of groups" under "Basic information", and you should see "Autoconfirmed users". What is making you think you are not confirmed? Is there a page you are unable to edit? MusikAnimal talk 13:56, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Yup, I can't edit a few pages such as Cars (franchise) and some others. Any more requirements needed? Any problems? Please help.Bingobro(Contributions) —Preceding undated comment added 14:02, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Nope, you should definitely be able to edit that page. Do you see a "View source" tab instead of "Edit"? MusikAnimal talk 14:11, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Nope, it says view source and a few other pages show im just fine. Im new here so thought it was some difference between Confirmed and Autoconfirmed. Bingobro(Contributions)

FYI, my autoconfirmed user, Xaosflux_ep works right when trying to edit that page. — xaosflux Talk 15:54, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Well for starters, I see you're using Twinkle, which only (auto)confirmed users can use. I'm not sure what to tell you... we could try manually confirming your account, but that literally will make no changes to your already autoconfirmed account. Could you try the link Xaosflux provided that directly goes to the edit interface [116]? Have you enabled any gadgets? MusikAnimal talk 16:04, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

So, I've stopped using twinkle still no change! And the lin once opened says this page is semi protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it.Well I am autoconfirmed? Then why this? .I've even removed my user page's Twinkle top icon.Bingobro(Contributions)

For what it's worth, xtools shows that you're autoconfirmed. I suppose it would be possible to manually add you as "confirmed" (it won't actually change anything) but clearly the fact you're able to use Twinkle means you're in the system as autoconfirmed. Try clearing your cache, logging out, and then logging back in? Primefac (talk) 14:03, 11 August 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
I've tried everything you mentioned but still no help?Bingobro(Contributions) —Preceding undated comment added 14:16, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
@Bingobro: I've temporarily added the confirmed flag to your account for the purposes of debugging. Let me know if you are now able to edit Cars (franchise) and others. Please try within the next 24 hours, afterwards the confirmed status will automatically be removed (but you will still be autoconfirmed) MusikAnimal talk 20:45, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes,finally I'm able to edit thank you!Bingobro(Contributions) —Preceding undated comment added 10:24, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Hmm OK, well I'm still going to let the confirmed flag expire. This is standard procedure, where we removed "confirmed" from any autoconfirmed account. I'm currently at Wikimania, so if come tomorrow are still having problems, I can talk to some other tech folks here and further debug this issue. Glad to hear you can edit for the time being, though! :) MusikAnimal talk 14:35, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
If you ask me, this is likely because you didn't purge your cache. Try emptying your cache next time.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:38, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
The user said they see the "View source" tab instead of "Edit". This does not involve JavaScript or templating, rather the check on user permissions happens on the backend at runtime and sets the markup accordingly, so I doubt it's related to caching. Certainly doesn't hurt to try, though! Bingobro, see Wikipedia:Bypass your cache on how to do this MusikAnimal talk 14:42, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Normally yes, and when applied via permissions, is immediately accessible. However autoconfirmed happens automatically, and when I was autoconfirmed, I couldn't edit semi-protected pages until my cache was purged.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:14, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

God!, really? now even the bypass your cache article says View Source when opened it says this article is semi-protected so, only auto confirmed users can edit it.And no improvement still view source.Although thanks everyone.Bingobro(Contributions) I'm still not able to edit semi protected pages.Bingobro(Contributions) —Preceding undated comment added 08:48, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

@Bingobro: I really don't know what to tell you :( At one point yesterday, your account had the "confirmed" flag, and you said you cleared your cache and the "View source" tab appeared again. So we know for sure the issue is not with permissions on your account. Looking at Special:PrefixIndex/User:Bingobro/, it seems you have no user scripts installed. The only thing I can think of is that there's some conflicting gadget, so let's try loading Cars (franchise) in safemode. Do you see an "Edit" tab? MusikAnimal talk 15:06, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, yesterday when I had the Confirmed flag I was able to edit the Cars (franchise) article however the clear your cache article still said view source.Bingobro(Contributions) 15:16, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bypass your cache is semi-protected, just like Cars (franchise). If you can edit one, you should be able to edit the other. Did safemode work for you? MusikAnimal talk 15:19, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Nope, not even safe mode. I think i'll just leave it and continue to edit unprotected pages. Bingobro(Contributions) 15:25, 13 August 2017 (UTC) Ok, forget what I said and also forgive me for it.I really need some help here!.Bingobro(Chat) 15:25, 14 August 2017 (UTC) I went down to Request for permisions/confirmed to seek help again by another admin or something and all I got was your bots automated response.Please help you really are my last hope! Bingobro(Chat) 15:25, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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Thanks man, you really helped with issue! Even though it hasn't yet been solved , here you go. Bingobro(Chat) 10:27, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
Aw, thanks! It was my utmost pleasure to assist you, and I'm sorry I wasn't able to figure it out. The folks at VPT are already on to something, it seems. You're not the only one with this problem! I hope it gets sorted out! MusikAnimal talk 16:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

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East Germany erected the Berlin Wall to prevent emigration westward.
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Wednesday August 30, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

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Metrics for reuse on Commons?

Hi, Sam Wilson suggested I get in touch. I work at the University of Edinburgh as the Wikimedian in Residence and library staff there have suggested they would be more inclined to share content to Wikimedia Commons if there were extra metrics for the images reuse. Knowing who is downloading the image and where the downloaded image is being reused/shared elsewhere on the internet is obviously too much like surveillance but wondered if number of clicks on an image (to enlarge for instance) or number of downloads (people choosing to save by right click 'Save as' or via download link etc) could be measured? Is this something you could advise about? Apologies if I'm barking up the wrong tree. Cheers, Stinglehammer (talk) 19:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

@Stinglehammer: Hey! Sorry for the late reply. The Analytics team does offer data on how many times an image or static media was downloaded or viewed at full size, and also how many times audio/video files were played. The raw TSV files for this can be found at dumps.wikimedia.org. I'm not aware of any tool that can visualize the image data, but for audio and video there is toollabs:commons-video-clicks and the upcoming phab:T149642. Hope this helps! MusikAnimal talk 15:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

StaleDrafts

Would you be able to have you bot update the StaleDraft report daily for a while? With G13 expanded to cover everything on that report, the report is shrinking. More frequent updates would help rid the report of deleted pages as well as postponed and refunded pages that are no longer G13 eligible. That would make it much easier to work with until the backlog is reduced.. Thanks in advance. Thanks. Legacypac (talk) 03:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Done! It is now running daily MusikAnimal talk 15:54, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

those 54 ips

If you're converting all of them to 1-year blocks, you got your work cut out for you. I saw Katie blocked a few ranges for two years; isn't that an easier option? Drmies (talk) 00:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Someone's running a bot that monitors recent changes, and reverts everyone's edits? My last two spelling corrections were nearly instantaneously reverted by an IP. Can't get any work done if that can't be controlled. – wbm1058 (talk) 00:48, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Yep, I was just blocking to get more IPs to show up and discover more ranges. Mostly thanks to Katie I think it's slowed down. I'll continue to monitor. Best MusikAnimal talk 00:51, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

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For helping me again and again with my newbie questions regarding scripting and SQL. You are truly a great editor! SoWhy 14:47, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
My pleasure! And thanks for the WikiLove :) MusikAnimal talk 16:11, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

SQL help: All AfDs from a certain date?

Hi there again. After creating my AFD closes script, I was wondering about creating a script to analyze who are the main people involved in closing AFDs for a certain day but I am not really sure how to get a list of AFDs to analyze. Is there a way to find out which pages are transcluded instead of linked to using the pagelinks table? I tried this query but it is not limited to transclusions. Thanks in advance! Regards SoWhy 18:42, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

@SoWhy: I think you want the templatelinks table :) See quarry:query/21179 for the modified query. If you're trying to get the AfDs for a specific day, I'd use a direct equality comparison of the page title rather than using LIKE MusikAnimal talk 00:48, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the updated query. I didn't know there was such a table, that does make it quite easier of course :-) Regards SoWhy 06:51, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Can I trouble you with another question? I tried working on my deletion analyzer script but I am struggling with a way to handle the huge logging table efficiently. Trying to grab a single day's deletions using this query takes quite a long time but I cannot think of a better way to limit the results to certain dates. Trying this query within a script on my local install always leads to a 504 error Can you think of a better (more efficient) way to grab those deletions? Regards SoWhy 19:29, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

@SoWhy: The replicas differ from production in that they have different indexing. This is very annoying but thankfully there is a guide, see wikitech:Help:MySQL queries#Alternative Views. So in our case we want to find log entries made by a specific user, so we'll use logging_userindex. That should make it significantly faster. Another tool I heavily rely on is Hedonil's SQL optimizer. This doesn't tell you how to improve your query but it will tell you if it is inefficient. There if you copy your query using logging, you'll see the EXPLAIN suggests it will scan 68,277,806 rows!!! With logging_userindex, you're down to just 36,690 rows :) Note that in a normal MySQL-ish environment, you can run EXPLAIN [your SQL] directly to get this info, but EXPLAIN is not available to end users on Toolforge. Hedonil's tool does some special magic to surface the same information MusikAnimal talk 20:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks very much. That does make it quite simpler of course! Regards SoWhy 06:17, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
I created the first alpha version here, check it out if you are interested. Feedback is always welcome Regards SoWhy 21:27, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Remove rights

I will no longer use my alternative account GTAlt. Can you please remove all user rights from that account except "extended confirmed"? I am asking you since you were the one who added the rights on 1 December 2016. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 01:52, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Sure thing. Done MusikAnimal talk 03:36, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

A goat for you!

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Thanks! MusikAnimal talk 13:57, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

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X-Tools

is loading a lot of unwanted characters. Mainly hash signs, swuare brackets and curly brackets. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 19:37, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

ACTRIAL deadline in 5 DAYS

Thank you for the admin newsletter. As you are on Horn's team, can we assume from this that the Foundation is on schedule for the 7th? We have had no recent communication from them on this point. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 22:46, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm on the same team but very much out of touch of what's going on ACTRIAL-wise. I did hear today that we got the OK from the security team on the Article Creation Workflow extension, so we're on track for the 7th MusikAnimal talk 22:48, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. In the meantime Danny has also confirmed that they are on schedule. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:18, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

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Just so you know, I normally edit under IP addresses, but I recently made an account in order to email you some information regarding the recent abuse coming from open proxies/VPN usage. Also (and most importantly), thanks for all that you're doing here... :-)

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Filters 803 and 34

What is the purpose of these filters? If you look at my abuse log, I've been blocked by each one already performing anti-vandal work. Filter 34 prevented me from blanking a talk page constituting promotion (I had to comment out the content instead). Filter 803 blocked me from tagging a user page as a WP:NOTWEBHOST violation.

Also, why is filter 34 private? Filter 33, which appears to do the same thing, is not. 24.91.248.60 (talk) 18:32, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

803 disallows any new editor from editing someone elses user page. This was a result of a giant RfC that I can't dig up right now. You should see the filter message explaining this when you attempted to save. 33 and 34 are for similar purposes, it would seem, but you're right they are very similar and could probably be combined. I don't know why 34 is private, but I can poke some people about it. Surely you understand the bulk of disruption and harassment originates with new accounts and logged out users, so sadly they often are caught in a filter when in actuality they are doing no harm. That being said, here I don't think there were any false positives, it was just an unfortunate consequence. I'm not in the slightest suggesting you should register an account, but I can say it offers many benefits and you'll find you aren't subject to restrictions imposed by filters like the ones you've mentioned MusikAnimal talk 16:16, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
I have now created an account. Pillowfluffyhead (talk) 23:56, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
And another false positive from an anti-sock filter. Again, these filters are way too broad. Pillowfluffyhead (talk) 15:19, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
@Pillowfluffyhead: WP:EF/FP is the correct venue to report false positives. I did not author that filter, either, sorry. On the subject of filters, it was a little hard to ignore this exchange where you apparently again assumed that just because a user tripped a filter, they must be in the wrong. As you've personally experienced, false positives definitely happen, so don't assume otherwise, especially given you're unable to see the filter.
At any rate, I very much appreciate your dedication to fighting vandalism. Once your account is automatically confirmed (two days from now), I recommend turning on Twinkle in your gadget preferences. This will help your work considerably. Then, after a few hundred edits of fighting vandalism, we can grant you rollback and you can use more powerful tools like Huggle :) In the meantime, please do report any issues you run into with edit filters. It sucks people fall victim to false positives, but it's people like you that help ensure they happen less often. Regards MusikAnimal talk 18:29, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 36, 2017)

One 24-ounce energy drink has 330 calories, more than a fast-food cheeseburger, and the equivalent of 18 single-serving packets of sugar.
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Xtools timecard

Hello! I understand that you are a maintainer of Xtools. I'm looking for the documentation for the Xtools timecard, which is part of the general user statistics. I haven't been able to find it on toolforge, Phabricator, or elsewhere! I'm hoping to look at the documentation, potentially contribute, and also look into what data I can get from it. Any info you can provide on where to find the timecard documentation would be appreciated! Hexatekin (talk) 01:09, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

@Hexatekin: Well first let me make sure you're referring to the new XTools, which is at https://xtools.wmflabs.org. It is still in beta but we're close to an official release. Documentation lives at https://xtools.readthedocs.io, specifically tools/editcounter.html#timecard for the timecard. Not a whole lot there but maybe it is of some help. Any contributions to the documentation (or the code!) is most welcome :) MusikAnimal talk 01:16, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

File:WikiFilterLogo.png

Hello MusikAnimal...Not so long ago, File:WikiFilterLogo.png was recently updated. For some unknown reason, the topicon of your user page has not updated when I'm on the computer. However, I can see the updated version on your user page with my Iphone. I also have the image displayed on my user page showing the updated version both on computer and phone, however, when I clicked on the image file from my user page, it shows the 2015 version. Do you have similar issues? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 22:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

@JudeccaXIII: I see the new version, yes. This sounds a lot like this issue (permalink). I had the same problem with that image, where I could see it on the article, but it wasn't shown when I clicked on it. I recall this same issue happening to someone else maybe a year ago, so I don't think it's anything new. I'm going to comment on the VPT discussion about this MusikAnimal talk 22:17, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

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A small pond hockey field
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A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for fixing the rest of the jumping issue. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:14, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! :) Though I must give the bulk of credit to Hartman, who informed us of a working solution. Best MusikAnimal talk 16:30, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Dear MusikAnimal, Please restore Achraf Baznani's page, I will edit it. The artist is well known, I have many informations to add to his wikipedia page. Thank you! 105.155.64.71 (talk) 20:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

See User talk:MusikAnimal/Archive 9#Achraf Baznani. The old article will not be restored, and the mainspace title will remain protected. You are however free to create a draft MusikAnimal talk 21:09, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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A spelling error on a road sign
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RfD

Hi! At Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017_September_14#Wikipedia:FAKENEWS you !voted for a redirect to WP:Zimdars' fake news list, but after you !voted I presented an argument against doing that, and none of the !votes after that were for that redirect. The MfD has been relisted. Would you be so kind as to re-examine the MfD and see if the arguments put forth after you !voted might cause you to reconsider? --Guy Macon (talk) 02:47, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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George Lazenby at the Supanova Pop Culture Expo in 2014
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I'll look into this, thanks! MusikAnimal talk 16:11, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017).

Administrator changes

added Boing! said ZebedeeAnsh666Ad Orientem
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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Community consultation on the 2017 candidates for CheckUser and Oversight has concluded. The Arbitration Committee will appoint successful candidates by October 11.
  • A request for comment is open regarding the structure, rules, and procedures of the December 2017 Arbitration Committee election, and how to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.

23:25, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Hello!

Hi MusikAnimal - I'd like to ask you some questions about the new edit filter helper right, if that's OK. I'm interested in applying for the right in the foreseeable future; would it be helpful for somebody like myself, who engages in anti-vandalism work and helps out at UAA? Would it help me to better spot sockpuppets, and report them, for instance? Secondly, will I have to sign the confidentiality agreement? I turn 18 this month, so I am more than willing to do so (until then I can't sign it), as I have a sound knowledge of what it means to keep matters confidential (without going into details on-wiki, I have some real-life experience in dealing with confidential matters). I do have some REGEX knowledge, although it is very basic and I won't jump into doing anything I know I can't do. So, in conclusion, do you think I am ready? Thanks in advance, and enjoy the rest of your day. :) Patient Zerotalk 13:11, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

It just lets you see the logs. Most anti-vandal filters are public, so no, I do not think you present a compelling use-case. You're not missing out on anything, I promise. There should never be a moment where you think, "am I ready?". This is not rollback. You won't be able to "do" anything with EFH MusikAnimal talk 15:27, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
That's OK, understood - thanks for your reply. Take care! Patient Zerotalk 10:22, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 41, 2017)

Wikipedia is sometimes criticized for being used as a source of circular reporting.
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Circular reporting

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Special:AbuseFilter/852

Unfortunately I've just seen that they're back. Would it be possible to reenable it? Cheers, Number 57 19:51, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Done MusikAnimal talk 00:11, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

14:21, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Protected templates

Shouldn't these templates with "thousands of transclusions" be set to Template protection ? Just asking :P - FlightTime (open channel) 17:11, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I did that for the templates with 5,000+ transclusions. The others it could be debatable whether template protection is appropriate (e.g. where are the templates are used? Are they frequently edited by non-template editors?). Giving them at least semi is better than nothing, so I'm just doing that for now MusikAnimal talk 17:21, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict) FlightTime, WP:HIGHRISK allows unilateral indefinite semi-protection of templates with 1000+ transclusions but TE requires a bit more scrutiny (and more transclusion) so I'd support the current actions taken (particularly with all the vandalism recently). Primefac (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
Okey, dokey. Thank you both. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:26, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to discuss the soon to built, Interaction Timeline

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Tools format

Dear MusikAnimal,

When I likened your work to the shades of blancmange
'Twas a jocular, but méfiable mensonge;
But 'tis true (to my eye) that the old shades of red
Were more crisp and succinct than the shade which instead
You have rendered so thickly, in broad crossing line
To the bars which the monthly endeavours define
(So one sees without scrolling but three or four months
Where of old one compared many more at a glance)
And the blob-charts revealing the hours of my labour
Are bulging, each button too close to its neighbour,
The colours of pastel, canary and green,
In co-ordinate artifice cover the screen,
And if to a syllabub I did compare 'em,
'Twas the jest, or the groan, of an old harum-scarum,
And nothing I said was design'd to offend:
And this, be it hoped, all offences will mend.
But chiefest of all, in the list of top edits
(found near the foot of the series of credits)
The inclusion of pages in Userspace names
Puts a lot of informal old work into frames
And brings into focus and ready access
Things for eyes unintended, and other such mess
From the old Wikipedia days, when discretion
Was not so considered as now, when profession
And care more judicious is taken to what
Should be found on the internet, and what should not.
Yet in case it should seem that I only complain,
Pray think me not thankless, nor wishful to pain,
For doubtless the X-Tool is greatly improved
By your latest additions and faults now removed,
And if your aesthetics go a trifle too far,
Still the World may applaud with a ringing "Hurrah!"
Eebahgum (talk) 11:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Eebahgum: First off, thank you for the amazing poem! :D Now, let me make sure I've got all of your concerns accounted for:
  • The bars of the month/year charts are too big. There will be a new version released probably tonight/tomorrow (my time) that will make this smaller, so I'll get back to you.
  • The "Top edited pages" isn't broken down by namespace. We just fixed this today, so hopefully all good there :)
  • The bubbles of the timecard chart are too big. For this, I assume your screen size is smaller than mine, because the bubbles are not overlapping for me. This is still an issue, though. They should stay proportionate when the screen size is smaller. I've created phab:T177898.
  • There is some concern around the colours? This part I was not able to extract from your beautiful poem, so please elaborate :)
  • Anything else?
Thanks for the feedback. It is always welcome, good or bad! MusikAnimal talk 00:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
So relieved at your kind response! Thankyou. I do apologize for my excess of language at Gerda's page, which had partly humorous intention. My reservations about the colour will be resolved by the adjustments in sizes as it will feel less immersive. It was old sandboxes etc. appearing in the final list that troubled me, but you are on the case. Thanks again. It's such a helpful tool. BTW, do you have an opinion about these occasional one-off huge peaks of page-viewing? I suspect some sort of automated data-capture. (It's 3.00 am here, so my poet-self has nodded off....). With kind regards, greetings, Eebahgum (talk) 02:22, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
Sunday October 15: Wikipedia @ Open House New York / Weekend Photo Competition

This event is the concluding "upload party" to the Wikipedia @ Open House New York Weekend photo scavenger hunt, and an accompanying Wikimedia Commons tutorial and multimedia hackathon,

Learn how to work with your photos to illustrate New York City articles!

Note that this is part of the larger Open House New York Weekend activities on Saturday and Sunday, when sites normally closed to the public are open for public visits and photography.

If you can, bring your camera/photos to the event, and a laptop if you'd like to engage in adding photos to articles. But this is not necessary.

For photos from last year's event, see the OHNY campaign 2016 on Wikimedia Commons.

  • Date: Sunday October 15
  • Time: 4:00 pm - 8:00 pm
  • Location: Ace Hotel New York. 20 West 29th Street, Manhattan.

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:33, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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Wednesday October 18, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 13:22, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

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Incorrect removal of protection templates after moves

The bot incorrectly removes protection templates with "removing {{pp-semi}} as page is not -protected" for the edit summary after protected pages are moved. This happened in Special:Diff/801836655 and Special:Diff/804955477 after the moves to "Zxcvbnm" by Anthony Appleyard and "Sanju(Film)" by Jack Shukla respectively, for example. What caused this bug with the bot to occur, and how can it be fixed? GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 22:46, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

@GeoffreyT2000: The "not -protected" in the edit summary is totally a bug (should say "edit-protected"), and that has been there for a while, I just haven't gotten around to fixing it :/ As for removing the template, the bot first goes off of Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates, and sometimes double-checks the protection state in the API. I think what happened here is both were cached and MediaWiki just didn't catch up with the page move by the time the bot did its run. Not sure what I can do... maybe check if the page was recently removed, and if so wait say 30 minutes before attempting to check the protection level MusikAnimal talk 23:09, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Musikbot

Hello, can you design Musikbot for Azerbaijani wikipedia? We would really appreciate as we are strugling to archive links.--Azerifactory (talk) 03:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps! It depends on what you're archiving. For normal everyday discussions, User:ClueBot III or User:Lowercase sigmabot III are probably better options. MusikBot mainly handles archiving of discussions at WP:PERM, which have a unique format MusikAnimal talk 03:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit counter issue

I happened upon the most edited "User talk" pages here Is User talk:TheStrayDog supposed to be formatted the same way in the edit counter as the real talk page's title is formatted? I can't tell whether that's deliberate or not. Huon (talk) 22:24, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Huon, it would appear so, given that my own stats are quite colourful. Primefac (talk) 01:30, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
@Huon and Primefac: Each namespace has its own unique colour. The colours were borrowed from Supercount (with permission). I agree for Biografer the high-edit count in the User talk namespace has produced a very vibrant appearance... It's nearly burning my retinas! =P I think we should reconsider the colours, but I'm not sure how to do approach this. The old colours offered a very dull experience, especially for the mainspace which in most cases is the most popular. You'll notice the smaller pie charts in the "General statistics" section are more of a pastel colour. This is the new colour scheme we'd like to go by... especially because it is colourblind-friendly. Unfortunately the palette we've prepared only offers 10 colours, when we are dealing with at least 32 namespaces. I'm going to try to see if we can extend the palette, but this might mean the colours will not translate to the old ones. In your opinion, does the colours->namespace correlation matter that much? In other words, if you saw the mainspace (articles) in a pastel blue, would you be confused (because they used to be red) -- even with the legend on the left side? MusikAnimal talk 07:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
MusikAnimal, we're talking about the Top Edits, where the formatting of the User talk "title" is shown instead of just normal formatting. I did notice the change in pie-chart colours, but haven't found it to be an issue (yet!). Primefac (talk) 11:57, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Indeed. In Primefac's list of edited user talk pages, "User talk:kikichugirl" is lowercase and purple. "User talk:SwisterTwister" is black and partly bolded. "User talk:KGirlTrucker81" is dark bolded pink on a bright pink background. That's the same formatting as for the page title on the respective user talk pages themselves. Article titles in the edit counter are italicised when there's a {{italic title}} on the respective article, and so on. Is that deliberate? Wouldn't it make for a cleaner look to use the same formatting for page titles trhoughout the edit counter tool? Huon (talk) 13:27, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Sorry for my misunderstanding. Yes, it was deliberate! It goes off of the WP:DISPLAYTITLE. Is this no good? I was unsure myself. In a way it's kind of cool, especially for mainspace articles where movie titles are supposed be italicized, etc. (as opposed to user page titles, which are formatted just for fun), but I can see how this could be distracting. MusikAnimal talk 19:06, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
Personally I don't mind, though I obviously can't speak for Huon. Most people don't go nuts with their talk page titles like they do with their sigs, so as long as it doesn't show that styling like Dispenser does, I'm happy. Primefac (talk) 19:24, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2017)

A fire sprinkler with red liquid alcohol in the capsule
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Fire sprinkler

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Kindly provide a copy of a deleted page.

Hi, this time its no technical issue I just needed a copy of the deleted Confident Airlines article. I plan to use the copy and develop it into an article with better ref's in my sandbox. Thanks! Bingobro (Chat) 12:30, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

15:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Filter 31

I had sent you an email regarding adding exceptions but I just wanted you to know that RF implemented them. Thanks a ton anyway. :) G'day. --QEDK () 18:59, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

A message from Haverbemashber

Hi! As one of the active maintainers of XTools I was hoping you could help me. One of the statistics of the 'Page history' tab in Xtools is "Reverted edits" (under general statistics). I wanted to know if there's any way of extracting this statistic for a number of articles automatically. Say by some way of listing the articles names (maybe in a pagepile or something..) as an input and getting each article's revert number as an output. Also, if it isn't too much to ask, could you tell me how you calculate the number of reverted edits? I mean, what counts for a reverted edit? This is for academic use and could save me A LOT of time. Many thanks in advance!

Haverbemashber (talk) 05:20, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

@Haverbemashber: The reverts are detected via edit summary of the edit that followed it (e.g. "Undid edit by..."). The better way to do this is probably to compare the rev_sha1 field in the revision table. We do not have an API to get this information from an article because it requires parsing every revision, which would be too slow for an API. If you are able to write your own application, I would recommend going off of rev_sha1. You are also free to borrow from our regular expressions, just look for entries that have revert: true. Hope this helps MusikAnimal talk 22:30, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar

Classiest nominator ever!
Withholding your "support" !vote so that you could be the 200th - that was awesome! MelanieN (talk) 15:21, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Hehe you'll notice from my RfA voting history that I always aim to be the 100th, 200th, 300th, etc. It doesn't always work, and I have to cheat, and sometimes people revert me, but this time I got it fair and square! :D Thanks for the WikiLove MusikAnimal talk 16:02, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

I saw your concerns regarding {{holiday}} and the loss of {{holiday abroad}}. I did my best to keep the same functionality, and now |2= (which can also be called |country=) has been added. This means that {{holiday|2=country}} should give almost the same result as {{holiday abroad|country}} (and it's fewer chars!). {{holiday}} {{holiday abroad}} If that looks good, I'll go ahead and redirect the latter into the former. Primefac (talk) 18:38, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

@Primefac: It doesn't show the country's flag, but that's fine. Thanks for doing the work in trying to please picky people like me :) MusikAnimal talk 18:47, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Well that's an easy fix! Primefac (talk) 18:56, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Awesome! Looks great. Thanks again :) MusikAnimal talk 19:12, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

Hello MusikAnimal, thank you for your efforts reviewing new pages!

Backlog update:

  • The new page backlog is currently at 12,878 pages. We have worked hard to decrease from over 22,000, but more hard work is needed! Please consider reviewing even just a few pages a day.
  • We have successfully cleared the backlog of pages created by non-confirmed accounts before ACTRIAL. Thank you to everyone who participated in that drive.

Technology update:

  • Primefac has created a script that will assist in requesting revision deletion for copyright violations that are often found in new pages. For more information see User:Primefac/revdel.

General project update:


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Thank you, and kind regards, --Gnom (talk) 11:46, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2017)

A 1912 illustration of Robin Hood and Little John
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Little John

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The Signpost: 23 October 2017

18:18, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Large sockfarm

Recently you blocked several KobraRus socks. However, you missed quite a few accounts:

I have no clue who the sockmaster is; it's probably a much older LTA. Maybe @WWGB: has an idea? Sro23 (talk) 23:44, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

@Sro23: I saw those but wasn't certain they were socks. Do you mind explaining the behaviourial evidence? I'm not very familiar with the case, and from a CU standpoint I could only say  Likely at best MusikAnimal talk 00:58, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
They are all new accounts WP:STALKing WWGB, either reverting his edits (example: [166] [167]) or making an inconsequential change to a page after he edits it. Sro23 (talk) 01:01, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
@Sro23: All blocked, plus several others. InsultedElephant was the oldest account I found MusikAnimal talk 01:54, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

OTRS - possibly in your baliwick?

I wonder if you could take a glance at: ticket:2017102610010514

I am sure you have more insight than I have whether the request is plausible.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:13, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Sphilbrick, this was (briefly) discussed at AN, and I started a few conversations at #wikimedia-tech connect regarding the issue, and the short answer was "no we cannot". Maybe MusikAnimal knows something the others didn't, but that's how I've closed the two or three other OTRS tickets I've seen with the same issue. Primefac (talk) 12:15, 27 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
@Sphilbrick and Primefac: I've replied and closed that ticket with some info I thought might help. Embarrassingly, this was the first ticket that I've ever closed! Since I got access last month, I just haven't had a chance to help out at all. Thanks for the ping, I needed that push to get me started :) MusikAnimal talk 16:14, 27 October 2017 (UTC)