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Archive for September 2012

Misza Bots are skipping articles

Just a few of many examples of how since May the bots are skipping talk archiving. Talk:Ronald Reagan, Talk:Benjamin Franklin, and most recently this user's talk page. All of the bot code and talk archives appear in good order with no apparent errors. So far I've only seen this happening on article and user talk pages. Not sure about wikipedia pages. Brad (talk) 21:39, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently Misza13 does not have his "email this user" option activated. If anyone can bring his attention to this thread it would be appreciated. Brad (talk) 21:49, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's an email address hidden on his userpage. I will send him a note. -- Dianna (talk) 05:23, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MiszaBots Completely Dead

This request for help from administrators has been answered. If you need more help or have additional questions, please reapply the {{admin help}} template, or contact the responding user(s) directly on their own user talk page.

It hasn't run in 2 days... what's happening? I have a bad feeling it's cause you haven't edited in quite a while... is it some sort of toolserver account lapsing or something like that? Theo polisme 01:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

_{The reason I tagged it for admin help was I was curious if anyone had any communication with Misza. Theopolisme 03:49, 2 September 2012 (UTC)}[reply]

There's an email address hidden on his userpage. I will send him a note. -- Dianna (talk) 05:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, brilliant. Thanks, Dianna. If there's no reply after a while, we may need to figure something out - either someone sets up a new install/run of it, or someone runs some sort of bot to change everything to ClueBot (obviously the first makes miles more sense, but... you never know). Theo polisme 05:19, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He hasn't edited since July, which is worrisome. I will post here if/when I get a reply, and if I don't get a reply, we will have to consider other options. -- Dianna (talk) 05:25, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. Perhaps give him a week? Simply because this is a bit of an urgent issue... Theo polisme 05:32, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I should note that MiszaBot I and MiszaBot II are also dead, as well as MiszaBot III. Safiel (talk) 05:55, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

_{Updated header accordingly. Theopolisme 05:58, 3 September 2012 (UTC)}[reply]

Is it just me or did the MiszaBots just come back to life? Theo polisme 06:49, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, it might just be #2.... are you pressing switches somewhere? Theo polisme 06:52, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, #2 is running, #3 dead since 30th and #1 dead since 31st. Let's hope Misza replies soon, as this is quite worrying. So many people rely on his bots... Adam Mugliston Talk 12:13, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

....And they all appear to be up now, thank goodness. Theo polisme 17:20, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No; MiszaBot I has not resumed editing. That bot archives article talk pages, and has not completed a run since August 31. -- Dianna (talk)

My mistake, must have been seeing ~~double~~ negative one. Theo polisme 18:15, 3 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MiszaBot I is running right now and is up to the letter M! Yay -- Dianna (talk) 02:59, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have snuck in a ninja fix to the "skipping pages problem". It was so trivial, I didn't bother to even test it. Lo and behold, obviously I made a mistake and it took me 2 days (and an email from Diannaa) to notice it only made things worse. (Yes, I read emails, not always answer them.) —Миша 13 10:37, 4 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Misza. Looks like everything is working now including the pages that were skipping. Brad (talk) 04:05, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure it's working? My talk page has been archived once, and that was ages ago. RfC invitations have been piling up, and nothing is being archived. I'd be glad if you could look into this. Thegreatgrabber (talk) 02:29, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it...
— Berean Hunter (talk) 02:43, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

In this issue:

Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
Research: The most recent DR data
Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

Read the entire first edition of The Olive Branch -->

--The Olive Branch 19:17, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Quick Question about MiszaBot III

Hi Misza, I was just wondering how your bots work when reading the dates? I sometimes get undated messages for example about AfC Backlog and they don't seem to archive. Any chance that can be fixed or is it not possible for those to archive? Adam Mugliston Talk 21:29, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sections without a date stamp are not automatically archived. If someone or a bot is posting sections without a date stamp, then the poster should be contacted. I think the decision to not archive these sections is wise since some editors add information intended to be retained on the talk page using this 'trick'. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Village Pump

I've proposed something involving archivers at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Talk_page_archivers:_leaving_a_TOC_trail --Lexein (talk) 22:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Down again?

~~Looks like at least #3 is down again - take a look? Theo polisme 23:31, 23 September 2012 (UTC)~~ [reply]

Nvm, back up. Probably was just related to toolserver being down? Theo polisme 20:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]