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Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools

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Screenshot showing what the Reply tool looks like — This early version of the Reply tool automatically signs and indents comments.

The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. The goal of the talk pages project is to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. This project is the result of the Talk pages consultation 2019.

Reply tool improved with edit tool buttons — In a future update, the team plans to test a tool for easily linking to another user's name, a rich-text editing option, and other tools.

The team is building a new tool for replying to comments now. This early version can sign and indent comments automatically. Please test the new Reply tool.

On 31 March 2020, the new reply tool was offered as a Beta Feature editors at four Wikipedias: Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian. If your community also wants early access to the new tool, contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF).
The team is planning some upcoming changes. Please review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page. The team will test features such as:
- an easy way to mention another editor ("pinging"),
- a rich-text visual editing option, and
- other features identified through user testing or recommended by editors.

To hear more about Editing Team updates, please add your name to the "Get involved" section of the project page. You can also watch these pages: the main project page, Updates, Replying, and User testing.

– PPelberg (WMF) (talk) & Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Invest 93S

@Meow: Sorry to bother you again! There is a tropical low in the Australian region which has been designated as Invest 93S by the JTWC. It's be great if you could make that track map. ChocolateTrain (talk) 12:39, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

@Meow: Just checking if you got my message? The system is no longer active in the Australian region, but it has crossed into the SWIO basin. It could strengthen into a tropical storm soon. ChocolateTrain (talk) 06:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I always monitor tropical systems. It is now Tropical Depression 12 so I will make a track map. 🐱💬 06:44, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

@Meow: It has officially been a tropical system since 10 April, despite its xxU identifier not being published. The BOM only publishes the identifiers in technical bulletins (for which there was no requirement in this case) and identifiers are not assigned by the BOM at all if the system does not have at least a medium chance of developing into a cyclone within the next few days. It is still a tropical low, however, and hence requires a track map. ChocolateTrain (talk) 12:08, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

I make for all tropical lows. 🐱💬 02:29, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

@Meow:

ChocolateTrain (talk) 05:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Please read

New track edit 2019 North Indian Ocean cyclone season summary map. Cyclone pawan. please edit Vala keep (talk) 05:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry I missed the update. I will upload again later. 🐱💬 06:23, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

2019 North Indian Ocean cyclone season summary png please update. edit cyclone pawan and deep Depression Vala keep (talk) 10:31, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Please reply

The system making 9 may. not making 10 may please date change 10 may and editing 9 may Vala keep (talk) 07:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Please reply

The system making 9 may. not making 10 may please date change 10 may and editing 9 may Vala keep (talk) 07:10, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Please stop spamming my page if you don’t even know what you are talking about. 🐱💬 07:11, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Please reply

north indian Ocean cyclone season active. New depression Formed andman and Nicobar islands near. Please edit data Vala keep (talk) 10:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Please reply

north indian Ocean cyclone season active. New depression Formed andman and Nicobar islands near. Please edit data Vala keep (talk) 10:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Cyclone Amphan high alert please read

Cyclone amphan formed 13 may night and very dangerous cyclone pressure very low — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vala keep (talk • contribs) 19:50, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Your country name

Please reply Vala keep (talk) 17:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

New system formed

Please Meow make a track. New Depression ARB 02 Formed Vala kals (talk) 04:42, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #2 – Quick updates

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Mockup of the new reply feature, showing new editing tools — The new features include a toolbar. What do you think should be in the toolbar?

This edition of the Editing newsletter includes information the Wikipedia:Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily. The central project page is on MediaWiki.org.

Reply tool: This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature will get new features soon. The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing @. You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster. Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months.
New requirements for user signatures: Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable. Most editors will not be affected.
New discussion tool: The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions. You can see the initial design on the project page.
Research on the use of talk pages: The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles. We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.

– Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #3

Seven years ago this week, the Editing team made the visual editor available by default to all logged-in editors using the desktop site at the English Wikipedia. Here's what happened since its introduction:

The 50 millionth edit using the visual editor on desktop was made this year. More than 10 million edits have been made here at the English Wikipedia.
More than 2 million new articles have been created in the visual editor. More than 600,000 of these new articles were created during 2019.
Almost 5 million edits on the mobile site have been made with the visual editor. Most of these edits have been made since the Editing team started improving the mobile visual editor in 2018.
The proportion of all edits made using the visual editor has been increasing every year.
Editors have made more than 7 million edits in the 2017 wikitext editor, including starting 600,000 new articles in it. The 2017 wikitext editor is VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode. You can enable it in your preferences.
On 17 November 2019, the first edit from outer space was made in the mobile visual editor.
In 2019, 35% of the edits by newcomers, and half of their first edits, were made using the visual editor. This percentage has been increasing every year since the tool became available.

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This is to let you know that the featured picture File:Noru 2017-07-31 0415Z.jpg, which you uploaded or nominated, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for July 31, 2020. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2020-07-31. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Typhoon Noru was the second-longest lasting tropical cyclone of the northwest Pacific Ocean on record. The fifth named storm of the 2017 Pacific typhoon season, it formed on July 19 and reached peak intensity on July 31 with 175 km/h (110 mph) 10-minute sustained winds. By this time, as shown in this satellite image, the typhoon was located south of Iwo Jima, and had taken on annular characteristics, with a symmetric ring of deep convection surrounding a 30 km (19 mi) well defined eye and fairly uniform cloud top temperatures. Traveling northwestward over an area of low ocean heat content, the eye became enlarged and ragged as the system weakened. By the time Noru made landfall over Wakayama Prefecture, Japan, on August 7, it had been downgraded to a severe tropical storm. It then dissipated over the Sea of Japan on August 9 as an extratropical cyclone.

Photograph credit: NASA; edited by Meow

Recently featured:

Hello Meow, i would like to know why you changed the summary map on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Pacific_typhoon_season, if it is something i did wrong or anything i would like to know, thanks Hurricane Tracker Man (talk) 06:40, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

ABPW10

Thanks for your good work on archiving some operational data! Could you please archive some ABPW10 warnings from JTWC? I couldn't find any warnings archived from the Mesonet for Carina and 90W, and could use some help for incoming 93W. Thanks! Regards, 👦 08:33, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

(P.S. I used some of your archived warnings for Nuri, could use some for Sinlaku as well. Thanks again!)

Honestly archiving manually is very exhausting and there should be more people to do it, or provide a bot to archive. The current task is almost my limit. 🐱💬 09:28, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Can we ask it on the Tropical Cyclones project? Regards, 👦 15:03, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

I hope so. 🐱💬 15:09, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

JMA BT?

Hi, Meow. I was wondering if you do know if the JMA still releases their BT for storms? It seems like the last storm they have updated from their BT is still 2019's Phanfone. Typhoon2013 (talk) 06:15, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Even JMA’s website has not shown the best track for Vongfong. 🐱💬 07:19, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I always say that the JMA BT takes about 8 weeks to put together, which means that it is about two - three weeks late. However, remember that this year we have Covid 19 to deal with which means that everything non-operational is going to be delayed.Jason Rees (talk) 16:21, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

12 th

12 th TD source Janm 7 (talk) 09:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #4

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Reply tool

The Reply tool has been available as a Beta Feature at the Arabic, Dutch, French and Hungarian Wikipedias since 31 March 2020. The first analysis showed positive results.

More than 300 editors used the Reply tool at these four Wikipedias. They posted more than 7,400 replies during the study period.
Of the people who posted a comment with the Reply tool, about 70% of them used the tool multiple times. About 60% of them used it on multiple days.
Comments from Wikipedia editors are positive. One said, أعتقد أن الأداة تقدم فائدة ملحوظة؛ فهي تختصر الوقت لتقديم رد بدلًا من التنقل بالفأرة إلى وصلة تعديل القسم أو الصفحة، التي تكون بعيدة عن التعليق الأخير في الغالب، ويصل المساهم لصندوق التعديل بسرعة باستخدام الأداة. ("I think the tool has a significant impact; it saves time to reply while the classic way is to move with a mouse to the Edit link to edit the section or the page which is generally far away from the comment. And the user reaches to the edit box so quickly to use the Reply tool.")[1]

The Editing team released the Reply tool as a Beta Feature at eight other Wikipedias in early August. Those Wikipedias are in the Chinese, Czech, Georgian, Serbian, Sorani Kurdish, Swedish, Catalan, and Korean languages. If you would like to use the Reply tool at your wiki, please tell User talk:Whatamidoing (WMF).

The Reply tool is still in active development. Per request from the Dutch Wikipedia and other editors, you will be able to customize the edit summary. (The default edit summary is "Reply".) A "ping" feature is available in the Reply tool's visual editing mode. This feature searches for usernames. Per request from the Arabic Wikipedia, each wiki will be able to set its own preferred symbol for pinging editors. Per request from editors at the Japanese and Hungarian Wikipedias, each wiki can define a preferred signature prefix in the page MediaWiki:Discussiontools-signature-prefix. For example, some languages omit spaces before signatures. Other communities want to add a dash or a non-breaking space.

New requirements for user signatures

The new requirements for custom user signatures began on 6 July 2020. If you try to create a custom signature that does not meet the requirements, you will get an error message.
Existing custom signatures that do not meet the new requirements will be unaffected temporarily. Eventually, all custom signatures will need to meet the new requirements. You can check your signature and see lists of active editors whose custom signatures need to be corrected. Volunteers have been contacting editors who need to change their custom signatures. If you need to change your custom signature, then please read the help page.

Next: New discussion tool

Next, the team will be working on a tool for quickly and easily starting a new discussion section to a talk page. To follow the development of this new tool, please put the New Discussion Tool project page on your watchlist.

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September 2020

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A kitten for you!

Meow. lol.

~ Destroyeraa🌀 15:11, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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Tropical Low 01U track map

@Meow: Hi there! How are you doing? I've got a track map request for you. Tropical Low 01U formed a few days ago in the Australian region. It's being tracked as Invest 95S by the JTWC currently. It would be fantastic if you could make a track map for this system—ideally before any of the data points get erased from the trackfile as happened earlier this year with some of the SPac and Aus systems. Thanks in advance! ChocolateTrain (talk) 14:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Another track map request

@Meow: Greetings once again! There's a new tropical low in the Australian region. It formed late on 7 December (UTC), and is being tracked as Invest 99S by the JTWC. Could you please make a track map for this tropical low? The BOM hasn't reported the xxU identifier code yet, so I'm not exactly sure what the file name should be. Thanks as always! ChocolateTrain (talk) 11:49, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

BOM hasn’t called it ‘tropical’ so I can’t make for it now. If it becomes tropical without a designation, the name would be TL 99S Dec 2020 track. 🐱💬 11:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC) 🐱💬 11:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Anyway I noticed that BOM had mentioned it as a tropical low in a severe weather warning. 🐱💬 14:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Tropical Low 03U

Hi Meow. Tropical Low 03U has just formed in the Australian region, near Darwin. It's being tracked as Invest 94S. It would be great if you could make a track map for the system as always. Thanks in advance! ChocolateTrain (talk) 06:33, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

SWIO Tropical Disturbance

@Meow: I saw that the JTWC was tracking Invest 93S, so I went to the RSMC La Réunion website to check if they'd started tracking the system, and they have. It's classified as a tropical disturbance currently, located just west of the Australian region. Could you please start the track map for this one too? ChocolateTrain (talk) 11:19, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

For this basin, systems without the official designation from La Réunion do not deserve a track map. 🐱💬 11:21, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

@Meow: Hi again. The system has now entered the Australian region and is being tracked as a tropical low by the Bureau of Meteorology. It's time for a track map now.

ChocolateTrain (talk) 12:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

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08U

I am just going to leave your edit as it is since I am with you here. But the problem with BoM in their outlooks, as for example with 08U, they would designate the system before being formed with the quote, "a tropical low [08U] is developing..." before today, which means it still has not formed. It was only since their outlook of 17/1 when they mentioned that 08U have fully developed, hence why editors tend to think that 08U's formation date was on the 17th. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:34, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

THEY ARE LAZY TO ARCHIVE SO THEY BELIEVE IT FORMED TODAY! 🐱💬 07:35, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I agree. But what I really meant was that the BoM uses different wording at times with "developing". If a system is developing then it hasn't fully developed yet. The BoM mentioned that in their outlook in both the 15th and 16th, therefore I did not quickly add in the infobox. Honestly the BoM should just be straight-forward and say whether the system is formed or not.Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:44, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Developing is not a term for not forming yet. If it had not formed, the term ‘will develop’ would be used. 🐱💬 07:47, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much for clearing this up! I apologise. Have a good day. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:57, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

For extratropical systems, developing equals to intensifying and developed equals to weakening. I am not sure if BOM is the exception as the bureau is a bad example itself. 🐱💬 07:59, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

File:Fengshen_2008-06-21_0230Z.png

How did you generate it? I wanna generate old GMS images as well. Regards, 👦 13:45, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I didn’t generate it. 🐱💬 14:47, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

I see. But is there any way that I can process the old GMS images? Regards, 👦 02:44, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Sure there is but that is beyond my knowledge. 🐱💬 07:25, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #1

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Reply tool

The Reply tool is available at most other Wikipedias.

The Reply tool has been deployed as an opt-out preference to all editors at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias.
It is also available as a Beta Feature at almost all Wikipedias except for the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias. If it is not available at your wiki, you can request it by following these simple instructions.

Research notes:

As of January 2021, more than 3,500 editors have used the Reply tool to post about 70,000 comments.
There is preliminary data from the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedia on the Reply tool. Junior Contributors who use the Reply tool are more likely to publish the comments that they start writing than those who use full-page wikitext editing.[2]
The Editing and Parsing teams have significantly reduced the number of edits that affect other parts of the page. About 0.3% of edits did this during the last month.[3] Some of the remaining changes are automatic corrections for Special:LintErrors.
A large A/B test will start soon.[4] This is part of the process to offer the Reply tool to everyone. During this test, half of all editors at 24 Wikipedias (not including the English Wikipedia) will have the Reply tool automatically enabled, and half will not. Editors at those Wikipeedias can still turn it on or off for their own accounts in Special:Preferences.

New discussion tool

The new tool for starting new discussions (new sections) will join the Discussion tools in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures at the end of January. You can try the tool for yourself.[5] You can leave feedback in this thread or on the talk page.

Next: Notifications

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–Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

2020–21 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season

Hello, Meow I check MFR Bulletin MFR TD 05 The System has been Formed in 5 Feb 2021 :) HurricaneEdgar 08:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Meow, Here HurricaneEdgar 08:52, 5 February 2021 (UTC).

It is just the first advisory. According to MFR’s track data, it formed as a tropical disturbance (one of MFR’s categories for TCs) at around 12:00 UTC on 4 February. 🐱💬 08:53, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

oh sorry I am mistake HurricaneEdgar 08:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

I feel sorry too that I was in a bad mood. 🐱💬 08:58, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

that is ok meow if you are bad mood just smile :) HurricaneEdgar 15:14, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

May 2021

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from Typhoon Tembin (2012) into another page. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. Please provide attribution for this duplication if it has not already been supplied by another editor, and if you have copied material between pages before, even if it was a long time ago, you should provide attribution for that also. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. This is only one of many unattributed splitoffs. It's from 2012. I really hope you're not still doing this, but have a reminder anyways. Sennecaster (What now?) 22:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

What are you talking about? I have not done anything to the article for years. 🐱💬 02:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

You may not have, but it is customary at copyright cleanup to template everyone who adds copyvio, even if you stumble upon it a decade later. Sennecaster (What now?) 03:14, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Let's be patient.....

Hey, I know that RSMC New Delhi have published the track map, but haven't yet uploaded the bulletin. So let's be patient about it and wait for few minutes. Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 07:11, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

You don’t really know about IMD. They release things seperately and track maps have shown it is ugpraded officially. 🐱💬 07:13, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Editing news 2021 #2

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Earlier this year, the Editing team ran a large study of the Reply Tool. The main goal was to find out whether the Reply Tool helped newer editors communicate on wiki. The second goal was to see whether the comments that newer editors made using the tool needed to be reverted more frequently than comments newer editors made with the existing wikitext page editor.

The key results were:

Newer editors who had automatic ("default on") access to the Reply tool were more likely to post a comment on a talk page.
The comments that newer editors made with the Reply Tool were also less likely to be reverted than the comments that newer editors made with page editing.

These results give the Editing team confidence that the tool is helpful.

Looking ahead

The team is planning to make the Reply tool available to everyone as an opt-out preference in the coming months. This has already happened at the Arabic, Czech, and Hungarian Wikipedias.

The next step is to resolve a technical challenge. Then, they will deploy the Reply tool first to the Wikipedias that participated in the study. After that, they will deploy it, in stages, to the other Wikipedias and all WMF-hosted wikis.

You can turn on "Discussion Tools" in Beta Features now. After you get the Reply tool, you can change your preferences at any time in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.

–Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

00:27, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Permission error on NOAA

Hi Meow, I noticed that you recently created track maps using NRL instead of NOAA. I am experiencing permission errors when accessing NOAA these days. Is your change of the source the same reason as I? If so, do you know the reason why NOAA denied the access of the best track data?―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

We don’t know the cause and solution so that is why I have to use some alternatives. 🐱💬 03:05, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I send a mail to webmaster.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 04:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

I ask a question

Brother can I use your cat picture Jupiter50 (talk) 19:35, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Refer to the license and don’t call me brother. 🐱💬 10:22, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

What should I call you? I can't call you by your name because you are a senior user. Jupiter50 (talk) 14:52, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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WP WX Discussion

Would you have any thoughts on the discussions here? Noah^Talk 18:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Honestly, I am not against changes, but I doubt if the changes are really meaningful and necessary. As what I commented on the Discord server, it seems the changes are not known globally, and the decision makers did not think about the potential chain reaction— track maps have to follow English Wikipedia, and all other Wikimedia projects involved with tropical cyclones have to follow the track maps. There was no issue for the original pattern simply due to the immature status of Wikimedia projects in 2000s, yet it is now 2022 that more opinions should be considered. 🐱💬 13:17, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Editing newsletter 2022 – #1

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The New topic tool helps editors create new ==Sections== on discussion pages. New editors are more successful with this new tool. You can read the report. Soon, the Editing team will offer this to all editors at most WMF-hosted wikis. You can join the discussion about this tool for the English Wikipedia is at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Enabling the New Topic Tool by default. You will be able to turn it off in the tool or at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion.

The Editing team plans to change the appearance of talk pages. These are separate from the changes made by the mw:Desktop improvements project and will appear in both Vector 2010 and Vector 2022. The goal is to add some information and make discussions look visibly different from encyclopedia articles. You can see some ideas at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project#Prototype Ready for Feedback.

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Template broken

Heya there! I noticed that the Template:Latest stable software release/Telegram shows a big error next to the Android line. You were the only editor who consistently cleaned it up and kept it proper, so I'm wondering if you know how that can be fixed? I'm not much on the technical side of things and though I looked it over, I can't see what's causing it. Or is it not on Wikipedia's side, perhaps? ASpacemanFalls (talk) 10:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

It’s because someone added 8.8.1 recently but labelled it for Android instead of macOS. 🐱💬 13:33, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Thanks for the fix, I was wondering what made it happen! ASpacemanFalls (talk) 17:57, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

BoM

Hello there! Could you archive all the sources from the BoM as you did in the Pacific typhoon? This will prove where it is formed on a tropical low. HurricaneEdgar 09:05, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

It is too time-consuming and I have been feeling stressed already for northwest Pacific systems. I really hope there should be some people who can archive for other basins. 🐱💬 10:03, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Sadly I really hope some people should archive of BoM, FMS, TCWC Wellington. This has been a problem for the past 2 years. HurricaneEdgar 10:09, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:2022–23 Australian region cyclone season

A tag has been placed on Category:2022–23 Australian region cyclone season indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Please be more careful with templates

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Template:Hurricane season bar gap. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:44, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

In addition, making 48 edits to a template that is transcluded more than 2,000 times, as you did at {{Hurricane season bar/button}}, is not appropriate. Please use the template's sandbox and testcases page to experiment, then copy the working changes to the live template. In addition, please always use an edit summary. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:50, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Can’t you do some research before claiming your so called vandalism? I solved the issue for the responsiveness. What you did is actually vandalism. 🐱💬 17:52, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Nope. You broke stuff and are clearly not doing tests in the sandboxes of these templates. In case you were wondering, the problem that brought your edits to my attention was {{2021–22 North American winter buttons}}, which was very broken after your undiscussed, unexplained changes to templates that it uses. If you had used an edit summary like "Changing X to Y. See discussion at Z." then I would have had a chance to figure out what you were attempting to do. As it was, I saw a bunch of blanking of templates that are used in 2,000 articles; what am I supposed to think? – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:52, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I did it for the tropical cyclones and why do the winter system used the same system? 🐱💬 17:54, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Do you know you broke the tropical cyclone templates completely? 🐱💬 18:04, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I don't know why the template is used in winter-related templates, but that's what happens sometimes. It's up to you as a template editor to ensure that (a) you test your edits in the sandbox before deploying them, (b) you use edit summaries to explain each of your edits to live templates, and (c) you check the effects of your changes on a significant sample of the pages that use the templates. The "What links here" page is a good place to find pages that transclude the template you are working on, including pages that use redirects to that template, which are placed in their own list. I have no objections to you reinstating your changes as long as they do not break pages that were previously working. As for me breaking the cyclone templates, it appears that your revert of my reinstatement of the status quo has broken the templates. In any event, if you can get them all working and can use coherent edit summaries, please do so. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:07, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I have fixed the part. They should now work well on both projects. 🐱💬 18:09, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Please look at, and fix, {{2008–09 South Pacific cyclone season buttons}} and the 200+ other pages currently listed on this error page. The fact that you have never edited Template:Hurricane season bar/testcases indicates a learning opportunity for you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:21, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I have confirmed that all tropical/extratropical cyclone-related templates are not on the error page (including other types of errors). Probably I was too concentrated on testing the results that I did not think about sandboxes and more comprehensive comments. The issue for responsiveness had persisted for years, and the new skin of Vector just amplified that. Another mistake is missing the extratropical part as I did not have any clue in my mind (I have never experienced that kind of systems). In fact, it is not difficult to implement the responsiveness to the winter counterpart either. For that in the future, however, I will inform in the discussion first before implementing the radical but useful change. Anyway, I am sorry for making mistakes and troubles throughout the changes, but I am still glad that the overflow issue is finally fixed in 2023. 🐱💬 19:07, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

It looks like your fixes are all in place, and they appear to be improvements to the templates. Next time, I hope that you will do your testing using each template's sandbox and testcases pages. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:39, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Doing it again

You are making typos in a live template used in hundreds of articles, at {{Pacific areas affected (Top)}}, causing those articles to display broken rendering to readers. This behavior is disruptive. Please use {{Pacific areas affected (Top)/sandbox}} to testing, and when it is ready, copy the contents to the live template. Also, use edit summaries when editing templates. Continued disregard for these normal practices are likely to lead to sanctions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:40, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I have tested on my sandbox before implementing. What did it break? I also left comments for the edits. Yes I missed one

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, but it did not affect the usage of templates. 🐱💬 06:50, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

This version and This version both failed to put the table code on a new line, breaking the template in all articles. Those sorts of mistakes are better to make in the template's sandbox, linked above. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:33, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I will use the sandbox of the specific template for next subjects. 🐱💬 14:37, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Likewise on Template:TC Areas affected (Bottom) from earlier (made at the same time as top), ditto the sandbox test requests. Thank you. Zinnober9 (talk) 00:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

.. Now you are the one producing errors. 🐱💬 03:54, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

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Extremely rate cyclone in South East Pacific.

Recently, I discovered several articles documenting the formation of an "extremely rare tropical cyclone" in the Southeast Pacific basin, near Peru, and unofficially named by the tracking agency as " Yaku". Should it be added to the South Pacific cyclone season? Vệ Thần^{- Talk} 23:10, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

An article of Cyclone Yaku has been created yesterday. 🐱💬 08:30, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

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One of your XHTML page edits

In the 12:07 edit for March 22nd 2023 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=XHTML&oldid=1146039066) you added text stating:

XHTML is now referred to as "the XML syntax for HTML"

You cited two sources, but neither of them refers to XHTML as "the XML syntax for HTML", and I cannot find any similar phrases in either of them. I've even checked Wayback Machine versions of the WHATWG wiki from before and after your article edit.

Do you have a source for XHTML being referred to as this?

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Ah - not to worry - I've now found and cited two sources for that.

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Hurricane Dora's track

Hello Meow,

I'm currently drafting an article of Hurricane Dora (2023) to see if it meets the notability reqs, and I couldn't find information about the storm following it exiting the Western Pacific as a subtropical depression. However, its forecast track continues until dissipation over Alaska. Seeing as you were the creator of the track I was wondering if you could provide your source(s) for Dora's track so I could add them to the draft. Jay Tee 🕊️ 16:36, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

The sources are mentioned on the track map page. 🐱💬 16:37, 29 August 2023 (UTC)