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Help!

Hello again, can you help sort out this template? I can't make it smaller and it's MASSIVELY wide! Thanks, WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 14:33, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll look at it either later or tomorrow. Be advised I've mass-tagged images by Duncharris as missing permission, and there are a lot of old railway photos in there. Don't know if any are used on pages you edit, but watch out and maybe transwiki to en to use under fair use rules instead. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:42, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Is that better? -mattbuck (Talk) 17:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Loads better, Monmouth Troy bit looks ok to me, if I think of anything better I'll let you know, thanks! Is there anywhere I can get the all of the images Duncharris uploaded so I can check them all and how would I get fair use proof for the photos? Thanks again, WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:40, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Look here - start at the top, and work quickly to the bottom because most are tagged as missing permission several days ago and so are liable to be deleted pretty soon. There are over 1000 uploads, some 500-800 images missing permission (and so tagged) at a guess. It might also be helpful to look via my contribs. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
These look good: File:Aberystwyth VoR station.JPG, File:GWR 3822 at Cheltenham Racecourse.jpg, File:GWR 6430 at Cheltenham Racecourse.JPG, File:GWR 4247 at Toddington.JPG, File:7428 at Aberystwyth.jpg, File:22 AEC GWR railcar.jpg, File:4566 on G&WR.jpg. How do I get fair use proof if I don't know the authors? WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:44, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
You don't need proof for fair use, just an argument as to why they can be used as fair use - ie not replaceable by a free alternative. Of all those, I'd say only 7428 has a good argument at not being replaceable - all the others are of a heritage railway which still operates so are replaceable. See WP:FU. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:51, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Like this?
File information
Description

Bla bla bla

Source

fotopic.net

Date

1 August 1961

Author

Stephen Rathbone

Permission
(Reusing this file)

See below.


WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:17, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Something like that. Also add {{Non-free use rationale}} (see Wikipedia:FURG#Template). -mattbuck (Talk) 18:56, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to add this:
Non-free media information and use rationale true for Aberystwyth railway station
Description

GWR 7400 Class 7428 stands at Aberystwyth railway station on August 1 1961, it is still lettered 'GWR' even though nationalisation took place 13 year ago.

Source

fotopic.net

Article

Aberystwyth railway station

Portion used

All image

Low resolution?

Unknown

Purpose of use

To illustrate the station at Aberystwyth

Replaceable?

Not replacable

Fair useFair use of copyrighted material in the context of Aberystwyth railway station//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mattbuck/Archive4true
For me, that would be denied. (As an aside, don't say unknown for low res, either it is or isn't, this one is.) You say it's to illustrate the article - illustration is generally replaceable. You need to say specifically why you want to use this image and not something more recent which is free, and also why the image is not replaceable. -mattbuck (Talk) 14:32, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Also, transfer any you want across now before I delete them. See Commons:Category:Media missing permission as of 12 April 2010, Commons:Category:Media missing permission as of 13 April 2010, Commons:Category:Media missing permission as of 15 April 2010, Commons:Category:Media missing permission as of 17 April 2010. -mattbuck (Talk) 14:33, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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Dalek variants

I have started a thread on the talk page, and asked MrMarmite to contribute. If he reverts you again, I recommend that you do not undo this, in case you get reported for edit warring. Another editor can undo if they agree with you about inclusion, so please contribute on the talk page. I can't work out if the issue is whether the Daleks didn't mention the colours on the show, or something else. Thanks --Elen of the Roads (talk) 10:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I wasn't going to revert again, and I think my last edit summary got a bit personal. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:04, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Hopefully that makes an end of it. I just could see the argument escalating, and didn't want anyone to get blocked over it :) --Elen of the Roads (talk) 15:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Photographs of Class 222 Interiors

Hi Mattbuck,

I wanted these two images deleted as I replaced them with better images.

They are:

  • 222001 M First Class Interior.JPG
  • 222001 M Standard Class.JPG

Please can you respect my request and delete those two images? Why does it have to be so difficult to put in a request when I made it quite clear that I uploaded two images and I wanted the older images deleted? --Peter Skuce (talk) 18:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I would like to apologise for my attitude and for me losing my temper. I get frustrated that it can be difficult to do things on here - such as deleting old images that I have uploaded and then wanting to replace them with more recent, improved images. I am sorry, I just wish that there was a quicker way of deleting one's image if the same person takes a better shot and decides to upload that. I am looking forward to Tuesdays trip to Gordon Hill, when I should be taking photographs of Class 313 trains, some of which will be in a six car formation. There will be a naming at 1515. --Peter Skuce (talk) 20:21, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds spiffy, my camera is currently broken so likely won't be taking any photos until I hopefully get a new one for my birthday in a few months time. But that's ok, I have 2000 photos to sort through from a few trips last week. As I mentioned, Commons wants to keep as many images as possible, as long as they're not copyvios, even if some are "better" than others. What one person wants from an image may be completely different from what someone else wants, and so it's generally preferable to keep both images at commons - for sure, change en.wp pages to the new image, but bear in mind that we can't know what people may want down the line. Besides, unless they're specifically better images of Midland Mainline 222 interiors, they're not a true replacement anyway. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:52, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, however what do you mean 'sounds spiffy'? --Peter Skuce (talk) 22:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
Let's just say good. Try this definition. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

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Meeting in Bristol

Hi this is Steve Virgin from the Board of Wikimedia UK

I am a fellow Bristolian

We have a Wikimedia Conference in town this weekend

We were getting some of the Bristol Project Wikipedians together at the Watershed on Saturday night for a Wiki Meet at around 6.30pm.

This is a good opportunity to meet people from the national Chapter, other Chapters from around the world and from the Wikimedia Foundation. There is a bar tab to help proceedings and we would be very keen to see you there.

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Steve virgin (talk) 21:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Steve. Thanks for the invite but I'm afraid I'll be in Nottingham until mid-June at the earliest. Hope you have a good time. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:38, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

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xkcd refs

Regarding this edit: [1]. All the refs but one are links to xkcd itself, and the last link is to a fake news article. Prodego talk 06:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

OK. -mattbuck (Talk) 08:49, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Funny vandalism

Love that page. You should move it to the Wikipedia space some time. Here's one you might like: [2].

Oh, I haven't updated that page for ages. Vandalism got less amusing, or at least that which I saw did. I think there's a page for this somewhere already. -mattbuck (Talk) 16:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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Revision to Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire and Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri articles

I noticed that you have revised either Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri or Sid Meier's Alien Crossfire.

I intend to revise those articles following the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines. There are more details on the discussion pages of those articles. I'd be interested in any comments you have. It would be best if your comments were on the discussion pages of the two articles.

Thank you.

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"god you admins are fucking blind here"

Cool it. FinalRapture - † ☪ 15:05, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I expect a modicum of intelligence from admins, seeing as how I work mostly on Commons, and seeing someone decline an F8 because the file was not named, even though there was a nowcommons which did name the file one line above it, is just ridiculous. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:17, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Your frustration does not absolve you from WP:NPA. I don't know the rules on Commons because I don't go there, but here, it's not tolerated. People make mistakes. Correct them and move on. You don't have to make attacks like that. --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 18:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

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The Third Great Wikipedia Dramaout

Hello again Mattbuck! I was just wondering if you would like to join me for serious content creation at The Third Great Wikipedia Dramaout, which will be held on July 5-9.
Signup is here. WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 17:43, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I just come here to fight vandals and insert my train photos. Besides, I am already part of the first great Wikipedia dramaout - moving to Commons. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:58, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh well, thanks for answering anyway! WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 18:17, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for that "heads up" on the FRLS cover / wikimedia bit - I am chasing it - what sort of time is given on these requests. Keith --Keith 21:06, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

It varies. Some DRs can be left unclosed for months, others get speedyclosed in days. This will probably run a week or two at a guess. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:45, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

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Challenging your challenge and defending my image.

Sorry fella, but if a personally created image of sonic screwdrivers for noncommercial use in visual identification of the devices described, in a different medium than the devices were represented, is a non-free use, then an article about sonic screwdrivers also qualifies as non-free use (textual description of said devices for use in identifying and understanding the in-story and out-of-story use of the devices, also transformative in medium and purpose (for identification and educational noncommercial uses) and a potentially immeasurably negligible portion of said original work (47 years of tv shows)).

I appreciate you trying to protect Wikipedia, but you're erring on the side of making Wikipedia useless -- by your judgement the article itself should be deleted as a derived work. Dodger (talk) 23:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

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I see you like mysteries with images from commons. Check out my new section at WT:UKRAIL. Simply south (talk) 22:35, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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Life, McFly

Hey! How's it going? Remember me? Still a McFly fan? Oh, the questions! -- Stacey talk to me 00:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I rememer you, but I'd swear you had a different name back then. Yes, I'm still a McFly fan, although not as much as I was, what about you? And stuff is good, I'm working on a PhD, have a new camera and am slowly categorising every photo of every british train. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I forgot I posted thia, haha. I had the same username (Telescope) but I think my signature was different. I'm still a McFly fan - just went to see them live yesterday, actually. What do you think of the new music? -- Stacey talk to me 15:24, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I haven't heard their new stuff yet. I've become a fan of Kenelis now. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Re-File:156 unit in Coventry 2000.JPG

"Hi. Thanks for uploading this image, but could you please upload free images to Commons in future? That way they're categorised with all the others, and can be used by other projects. -mattbuck (Talk) 22:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)"

I found Commons' upload page too baffeling. Could you exsplaine all the diferent tags, labels and alike they use.--Its snowing in East Asia (talk) 09:25, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your help.--Its snowing in East Asia (talk) 14:18, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

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Editing Test (Assessment) article

Thank you for helping me with this article. As I was editing the multiple choice section, I realized there was an edit conflict. Let me know which sections you plan to edit so that I don't accidentally undue your edits. Thanks again! mezzaninelounge (talk) 00:13, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I don't really have much info to add, so I'm done imo. I'm a mathematician, I don't do multiple choice really, or anything other than "list of questions, show working". -mattbuck (Talk) 01:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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Nottingham University

Hi there,

You seem to have done some commendable work on the Nottingham University wiki in the past. I'm wondering if you could look at it again. Right now there have been a couple of complaints that the whole thing looks like one big PR exercise, especially the rankings and reputation (see talk). Essentially, rankings that are good are championed whilst bad ones are ignored, or the validity of those rankings are questioned. It still talks of Nottingham being among the Sutton Trust's 13 highest ranked universities- no such official group exists, and this was based on the 1999 league tables, which have since been superceded be eleven new ones. The neutral tone of the article is in serious doubt, to the extent it would not pass GA status now I fear. When I made edits and asked for citations, they were quickly reverted by another IP.

Best. 86.30.211.218 (talk) 20:27, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll try and look into it in the next few days. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

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AfD

I just nominated an article that you have contributed to: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Most Hated Family in America. Wolfview (talk) 16:12, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

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FARC: Bangladesh

Hey mate, would you take a look at the article. It really needs an independent image editor's help. There's been issues with images. Please, help the article if you can. Aditya(talk • contribs) 03:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

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File:Subgenius-JHVH-1-by-St-Ken.jpg

You didn't create the discussion section under PUF, so I did. Please remember to do that when you tag files/pages for deletion discussion. ;) -- David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍) 14:16, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Whoops, I was mistaken, my first click on the link didn't work. Reverted my 12 Oct section, and added to the 03 Oct discussion. Sorry for the false alarm. David Spalding (☎ ✉ ✍)

Gloucester to Newport Line

I just think the change makes the junction a little more visible. If you don't like it and really want to revert it I won't worry at all. Britmax (talk) 16:56, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

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Speedy tags on File talk pages

I note you've tagged a number of File talk pages as WP:CSD#G8, some of which have now been zapped. I don't disagree; they should never have been created in the first place. They only exist because 83.67.147.66 was in the habit of putting irrelevant comments and/or full-size images on various (not just talk) pages. It was seemingly at random, but he often targeted the same page multiple times. He's done something similar on Commons, too. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I'll go nuke those too. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

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Willesden TMD

It's 87002, which is sadly the only of the class still running in the UK. I don't have a commons account, but I'll get around to uploading it. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 14:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

You should have a commons login; if unsure, see meta:Help:Unified login.
To set it up quickly, visit Special:MergeAccount, and it'll immediately attempt to create a commons login as well as a whole bunch of others. All of these will be the same username and password as your English Wikipedia login. It'll then list the ones that succeeded - when I do this, I get 35 different Wikipedias, plus 12 others incl. commons. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:52, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

My account

Is there any particular way to delete my account? As I don't really edit much pages on Wikipedia, I thought creating my account was pointless --390VirginPendolino390 (talk) 17:03, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Creating an account when you don't edit much isn't necessarily pointless: see WP:SIGNUP. Deleting an account is a rare event: but see WP:LEAVE. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:42, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

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You may be interested...

Hello again Mattbuck! You might be interested in a route diagram I am creating for the railways of Western Gloucestershire based upon the Severn & Wye diagram and others in my sandbox.

Happy editing! WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 19:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I think you may have to use LUECKE a lot. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, the Wye Valley Railway and Coleford Railway are very stretched but I'm trying not to use LUECKE as it is a map of all the lines, and so all of the routes are important.
Thanks for the reply, I'll come back and bother you once I get stuck! WVRMAD•Talk •Guestbook 10:09, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Northfield railway station

Thanks! A somewhat more elaborate answer than that which I was seeking, but nevertheless, a comprehensive answer to my question. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I've been working on the commons cats for that line recently, as part of an ongoing project to sort every train by operator, livery and line. -mattbuck (Talk) 14:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

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Anal-oral sex

How can you say I censored this article? I did not delete the picture ;D --Prust (talk) 01:16, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Your rationale for the move was to protect children. Doing so compromised the article's quality. That's censorship. -mattbuck (Talk) 03:11, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

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Pearl necklace (sexuality)

You have reverted my edit on this article, where I removed a blurry, low-quality photo. In my opinion, the CG model clarifies the subject better. The photo is blurry, and does not fit with Commons guidelines. commons:COM:PORN MikeNicho231 (talk) 20:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm well aware of commons guidelines, I prefer to spend my time there where I can make an edit without 1000 years of discussion. The guideline states "we may keep the file if we have no better file on a subject it can illustrate" - we do not have a better image, it's the only one we have of an actual pearl necklace. Drawings are all well and good, but it is always helpful to have an actual photo. -mattbuck (Talk) 20:33, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

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Coprophilia image question

Hi Matt. I see you're defending the use of the image of a woman with feces in her mouth in the Coprophilia article. Before one gets to all the usual questions about NOTCENSORED and IDONTLIKEIT, doesn't the image have to illustrate the topic? Per the article, this is "the paraphilia involving sexual pleasure from feces." Although this is an image of a very young woman who seems to have had someone defecate in her mouth and on her shoulders, there is nothing to unequivocally indicate that she is getting pleasure from the feces (or is even consenting to the situation), and it is entirely speculative that anyone else involved is getting pleasure from feces either (as opposed to from humiliating the individual in the picture). I wonder if it's worth considering the informational content of the image before advancing to the NOTCENSORED defense?KD Tries Again (talk) 05:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC)KD Tries Again

In principle yes, but let's consider a less vomit-inducing example - someone being whipped. People derive pleasure from that, but how would we show it as inducing pleasure? You can't really. With scat, at least half the pleasure is mental, getting off on doing something totally disgusting/degrading. But that doesn't mean the act doesn't make you a bit sick. I don't think that it's necessary to show the person masturbating or whatever, especially given social mores that equate nudity and sex. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:13, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
It's very easy to find pictures of people who are clearly consenting to SM practices, and the inference they are enjoying themselves is easy too. It might be harder to find similar images for this article, but that's not a good reason for using this image. It's perfectly possible that both the subject in the picture and the other people involved find feces aversive: the picture might exist for reasons quite other than deriving sexual pleasure from feces. A good analogy would be trying to illustrate an article on SM practices with just a non-specific picture of someone being tortured.KD Tries Again (talk) 14:06, 30 November 2010 (UTC)KD Tries Again

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QEH choir / boarders query

Hi Matt, I've left a Talk page comment here. Thanks and best wishes, DBaK (talk) 18:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Aha! Ta. Replied there. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 21:13, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

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Your revert of my move of the "Dawn of the Day of the Dead....." (whatever) films

In answer to your edit summary, yes, we do indeed make article titles convenient for our readers, and they do not necessarily have to be precisely the full name of the subject of the article. I direct you to our article for "Dr. Strangelove or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb", which you will, of course, find at Dr. Strangelove. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:56, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

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