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A taskforce dealing with LGBT publications has been proposed. If you are interested in getting involved, consider signing up at the projects' page.
Our core topics list is looking good. It's still a bit slim on LGBT history articles, non-American LGBT media, and important LGBT biographies. Do you have suggestions?
David Shankbone has done an amazing job taking photographs of LGBT celebrities. Thanks David! People interested in collaborating with him and setting up a photography taskforce should contact him or drop a note at the project's talkpage.
The LGBT Portal still needs a bit of love and attention :-). Again, any good quality (free) photos you come across on LGBT articles can be added to the gallery here. Volunteers to help out with the Portal are extremely welcome- make yourselves known on the Portal's talkpage. Updates to the current news items are helpful.
Deputy coordinator elections
WikiProject LGBT studies is looking for new Deputy Coordinators to help out with various essential tasks in organising the project. To nominate yourself or contribute to the discussion, please go to: Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Coordinator/May 2007. The deadline for nominations is May 5 and the elections will last a week after that.
The elections will be pretty simple- everyone just endorses their favourite candidate(s). The three with the most votes at the end of the week are the new deputy coordinators, who will assist Dev920 in keeping the project running.
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I had just finished a short fantasy story (Catch of the Day by Jeff Grubb) and wanted to tag it as "Strong Female Role Model" over at www.isfdb.org. However, that tag would be far too long, most tags are one or two words. What I'm hoping you can help with would be a good place where I could ask what's a good one or two word tag for "strong female role model" that the average person would recognize?" Jessica Amanda Salmonson use "Amazons" for a couple of her anthologies though in my mind that's for female warriors. In the story I read the women are the captain and master of a ship (the remaining crew and passengers were male as far as I could tell) but they were not "amazons" but rather just competent people. I looked at http://wiki.feministsf.net but did not spot what seemed like an active talk page. Thank you. Marc Kupper (talk) (contribs)08:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
We don't have good talk pages at the FSFwiki, but feel free to start one ... I set up a page at the FSFwiki. However, the number of contributors is still relatively limited. ... You might try "strong female characters" or "female X" where "X" is the occupation? --lquilter02:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
If you don't want to answer this question for legal reasons, I would understand. Over here a few of us have been discussing the merits of having full lists of works on wikipedia for authors, artists, musicians, etc. The question has arisen, if one copies the list directly from a source (like I did at List of works by Joseph Priestley or at List of works by Mary Martha Sherwood), is that infringing on someone's intellectual property? In the first instance, I copied part of a bibliography in the back of a biography, so the main work was the biography, and in the second I copied the list from the second half of a book, the first half of the work was a biography and analysis of the author and the second half of the book was the bibliography. When is copying a bibliography plagiarism or theft of intellectual property? It never really occurred to me that it was. (Annotated bibliographies are an entirely different matter, of course.) AwadewitTalk06:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The case on these issues is Feist (1991), and it said that copying a telephone directory is not copyright infringement. The argument that it was copyright infringement was called the "sweat of the brow" argument and the US Supreme Court said clearly, in Feist, that sweat of the brow is not sufficient for a copyright; originality is required. Here's the generic analysis for this kind of issue: Copyright requires an original work of authorship, originality being the operative word. The items in a list of this nature are facts, not original expression, and so not copyrightable. What is copyrightable in such a list is a) selection criteria and b) organization scheme. Selection or organization can be thinly copyrightable, available for lots of fair use, if there is any originality involved. Selecting "all" of some obvious category (like an author's works) has basically zero originality in terms of a selection, and so there would be no copyright for a complete bibliography. Sorting by the obvious sort-keys, such as alphabetical by title, chronological by date, or the basic genre of works (articles; books; essays; etc.) is also not original, so no copyright. To imagine a copyrightable list of someone's works is hard for me, frankly. Maybe, if someone developed a unique theory of how the works hung together, and then sorted them according to that theory ...? In any question, copying a standard-issue bibliography is fine (and something librarians and reference work publishers and scholars of all sorts do all the time). --lquilter14:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Nope. I edited it for clarity, so you can copy the current version. Please re-post a link here, though, so I can follow it when I get a chance. --lquilter22:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Here is where I posted it. It is in the middle of a very long debate. Sadly, the debate is still going on. Thank you for your help. AwadewitTalk12:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject Biography is holding a three month long assessment drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles. The drive is running from June 1, 2007 – September 1, 2007.
Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to the great Golden Wiki Award.
There are over 110,000 articles to assess so please visit the drive's page and help out!
Monthly Challenge: June Stub Review! Take a moment and sift through the roughly 3,600 Stub-class LGBT articles. Are they still stubs? If not, make an assessment change. Even better, do you see anything you can add/edit to increase the rating? Let's see if the project can lower the number of stubs down below 3,000!
Project News
WP:LGBT Exceeds 200 Members!!
Two editors have been selected by project members as co-coordinators. Their duties are still a bit unclear, but having a few more janitors around the project will help keep us running smoothly. Please feel free to message Fireplace or SatyrTN if you have any project questions or concerns.
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I am looking for help with the Helen Caldicott article. About a year ago I used Wiki to look up Helen Caldicott and was "outraged" (LOL) with her article. Although I am an acomplished woman, I have never been comfortable when it comes to anything written or spoken, perhaps because my mother, father, and two sisters are/were such accomplished writers. I initially tried to get friends to "fix" the article but when that failed I decided to become a Wiki editor myself.
You can read my rationale for deleting the Criticism section in the discussion section. I also decided to "watch over" the Caldicott article and recently note that the criticism section is back. As I say in the discussion I am not against criticism, however I do feel that a pro-nuclear blog does not meet Wiki's standards for accurate information.
Almost a week ago I asked for help from the list of "helpers" that Wiki provides. Although he/she responded with "I'll take a look at it" the same day, I have not yet seen any input from that person.
Could you please take a look at the Caldicott article and give some input?
Monthly Challenge: Submit an article to our Jumpaclass competition! Languishing unloved, it is a great way to improving that article you always meant to improve but never got round to. Challenge someone else to go head to head and see who can improve their article most!
Our Deputy Coordinators have been doing a fabulous job so far. Well done!
The portal is now looking very snazzy, well done to Fireplace for all his hard work.
The list of LGBT people to be sorted has now beed reduced by 20%. Please help us with it, all of us adding just one person a day would have a dramatic effect!
The Core Topics is now largely complete. The original aim of getting some kind of publication out of it is extremely long term - any short term uses we can make of it are welcome on the project talkpage.
A suggestion was made this month that we start our own wiki. Although the conclusion was that we felt we were a part of Wikipedia rather than a stand alone organisation, it seems there is an LGBT wiki already, at http://lgbt.wikia.com/wiki/Main_page . Members may be interested in getting involved there.
The Collaboration is now getting rather short on suggestions. Article nominations for August through December would be welcome on the talkpage.
There is now a list of Missing LGBT Topics. Help is needed to work out which topics can be made redirects or need to be created. Please contribute is you can.
An LGBT banner that was created for Wikipedia's internal ads system has now been adapted so it can be placed on blogs and websites. The html is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:LGBT"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Qxz-ad48.gif" height="53" width="445"></a> Please credit Miranda and link to her userpage: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Miranda">Miranda</a>. The banner can be seen in action here. If you have a blog or a website, please consider adding the banner, either in a post or as part of your profile.
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Message from Coordinator: It's been almost two months since the last newsletter came out, so there are a fair few people who haven't really been kept up with our project. I'd like to welcome all those who have joined and those who have returned, and strongly reccommend that you use the talkpage for any queries or problems you have. Happy editing!
Article News
The ongoing effort to create a comprehensive list of LGB people has begun to bear fruit - /A AND the /W-Z lists have been featured! Congratulations to Dev920 and SatyrTN who nominated them respectively. Please consider pitching in the the remaining lists to help us get them finished before the end of the year.
Project News
WP:LGBT now has an IRC channel! It is #LGBTProject on Freenode. Users without IRC or Xchat can use the java app at java.freenode.net to access the channel from their web browser. Hope to see you in there sometime!
David Shankbone has taken a LOT of photos. An idea has been mooted to create a page for listing people who are willing to take images in their area on request, please give your thoughts here.
Considerable discussion has recently been held on our coverage of same sex marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships. You may be interested to read it.
The list of LGBT people to be sorted has now been reduced by over 30%. Please help us with it, all of us adding just one person a day would have a dramatic effect!
A gay cabal conspiracy ghost has been created to do with what you will. :)
Wooh, massive gay conspiracy...
Member News
Since the last newsletter was released, we have had more members been labelled inactive than who have signed up - please consider recruiting a few more people if you can, a WikiProject is only as good as its members. :)
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