User talk:Leslie Love Stone

Paid editing

Hello Leslie Love Stone. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Leslie Love Stone. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Leslie Love Stone|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Theroadislong (talk) 17:20, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the quick feedback. Not being paid at all!

My intention is to start with the Adelaida District AVA article (Adelaida District AVA) and write articles for each of the wineries cited. Purely a community service on my part. As this is my first article, I am obviously making mistakes! I thought I was modeling the DAOU article on the Tablas Creek Vineyard article (Tablas Creek Vineyard). I do work in the industry (which is an extremely small community, many of us have worked for multiple wineries) and do work for DAOU at this time, but not as a marketer. My interest is academic and I do have a high degree of expertise in wine business and wine history by way of education and experience. I am also a professional editor and have published academic articles in the past. I am starting with the wineries I know best, but absolutely have no intention of turning these articles into PR pieces—I'm just trying to learn how to do it right. Leslie Love Stone (talk) 18:33, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your help is very much appreciated and obviously needed. Thank you, again. Leslie Love Stone (talk) 18:35, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The fact you work for them means that you will need to disclose your conflict of interest per WP:COI. Valereee (talk) 20:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Leslie Love Stone (talk) 21:35, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You say " do work for DAOU at this time" so you definitely deemed to be a paid editor and will need to make the required disclosure on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 21:41, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you—I will set that up right now. Is there a typical format for what is included in a user page? Leslie Love Stone (talk) 21:54, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:DAOU Family Estates has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:DAOU Family Estates. Thanks! Valereee (talk) 20:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion is at Draft talk:DAOU Family Estates. Valereee (talk) 21:42, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: DAOU Family Estates (July 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:DAOU Family Estates and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 21:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Leslie Love Stone! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 21:57, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much—trying to get this right! Leslie Love Stone (talk) 22:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Leslie Love Stone

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Leslie Love Stone requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:52, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I seriously do not understand. Theroadislong editor told me to create a user page. I looked up what kinds of things go on a Wikipedia user page and did that. Now I have a speedy deletion notice? I don't understand why, so how can I contest? Your advice appreciated. Thank you. Leslie Love Stone (talk) 00:32, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the Speedy Deletion tag. You might want to tell a little less about yourself there. We like knowing each other's interests and things, but yours looks like a little professional resume. — Maile (talk) 00:54, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Will do. Leslie Love Stone (talk) 01:07, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you—I deleted the sections on education and links to academic papers and just left it at my interests and the project I'd like to work on. I kept the COI statement in. Is that correct? Theroadislong advised me to include it. Leslie Love Stone (talk) 01:14, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you must keep the COI notice! Actually, your connection is paid, even though you are not being specifically paid to create this article. David notMD (talk) 02:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The owners don't know I'm working on this, but I think I understand what you're saying. Leslie Love Stone (talk) 04:34, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Paid editing again

You still have not adequately responded or taken action to the inquiry regarding your appearance as an undisclosed paid editor. If you make any additional edits without complying, you may be blocked from editing. Please follow the instructions this time. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Leslie Love Stone|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}.Theroadislong (talk) 07:16, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

She has disclosed that she is an employee of Daou and therefore has a COI, but she is telling us she is not being paid for creating and submitting this draft. I don't think using a particular template that specifically says "she has been paid by Daou for her contributions to Wikipedia", which according to her is not correct, is required? Valereee (talk) 14:24, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I had always thought that all employees were deemed to be paid editors. Theroadislong (talk) 15:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's generally what we assume is usually true, and certainly no employee should be editing a published article directly but instead make edit requests. Drafts are a little iffier, I think, at least IMO, and I'm totally willing to be persuaded, but an employee with a declared COI writing and submitting a draft is probably just on the safe side of the line. The thing is, I do understand why someone with a wine background and wine job would think writing about their area of expertise might be fun, and starting with your own employer, and immediately disclosing when queried? I can AGF that this is not necessarily nefarious. Time will tell. :) Valereee (talk) 16:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your thread has been archived

Hi Leslie Love Stone! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, New to Wikipedia! Submitted an article, had it declined, resubmitted, declined again—how do I fix this?!, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days.

You can still read the archived discussion. If you have follow-up questions, please create a new thread.

See also the help page about the archival process. The archival was done by Lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} on top of the current page (your user talk page). Muninnbot (talk) 19:02, 1 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]