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Administrators' newsletter – December 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

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  • A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget. (T319449)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous


Tech News: 2022-49

MediaWiki message delivery 00:39, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

AfD Closure

Hi there, you closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gwaun Troed-rhiw-seiri a Llyn Mynydd-gorddu as no consensus, which, on the one hand, is understandable because there were no other !votes expressed at all, but on the other hand I find deeply frustrating. I attempted to PROD this and a PROD patroller deprodded it without any good reason, but then did not participate in the deletion discussion. Then, because it had been prodded, it seems it is ineligible for soft delete at AfD? But this means that deprodding of articles armours them, which surely is not the intent of the policy. There is almost nothing on that page. The title (as explained) shows that it is not one place but two, neither notable. The only commentator tacitly admits there is no information out there to develop an article. Surely this is a case where WP:SILENCE is a consensus, and the nominator's rationale should hold sway?

So, what to do now? Do I nominate it again? Should I take to deletion review? Can I PROD it again? Or should I just bold redirect the page? What would be your advice as to how to clean this up? Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:03, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Sirfurboy, I can totally see how this is frustrating. PROD can only be used once, so once the tag was removed, it is ineligible for PROD and soft deletion ever again (so it's effectively armored from a single editor unilaterally getting it deleted). That's mostly why I don't think WP:SILENCE would apply here, because someone has objected by removing the PROD.
My recommendation would be to just wait 2-3 months and if the situation hasn't changed, nominate it again. I can't think of any reason why boldly redirecting would be inappropriate, so that's an option too. Legoktm (talk) 16:40, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for your time and advice. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:24, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK for 2022 University of California academic workers' strike

On 12 December 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 2022 University of California academic workers' strike, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that construction workers at UC Berkeley paused their work in solidarity with the 2022 University of California academic workers' strike? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2022 University of California academic workers' strike. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 2022 University of California academic workers' strike), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Sakkiliyar

Can you relist WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 November 24#Sakkiliyar unless you have strong opinion that it should have been deleted? Jay 💬 02:25, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@Jay: no strong opinions,  Done. Legoktm (talk) 02:34, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
It would have been good to let another admin close this, as nothing has changed since the last close, unless you have a stronger rationale to delete this time. I'm not contesting this, but you can enhance your closing statement with the rationale. Jay 💬 08:57, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, I clearly didn't spend enough time reading it before closing as I both forgot that this is the one we had already discussed, and I glossed over your comment. I've left it for someone else to close. Legoktm (talk) 08:13, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-50

MediaWiki message delivery 23:32, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your reversion on WP:Alternative outlets

I read the edit summary for this reversion, it says "we don't recommend this site run by WMF-banned users" or something like that. This begs two questions:

  • What the WMF-banned user(s) are responsible for running Miraheze?
  • Isn't it unacceptable to remove or in this case, revert the addition of the site on alternate outlets page just because it is ran by WMF-banned users?

36.72.46.16 (talk) 01:25, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

This has been previously discussed, e.g. m:Talk:Interwiki_map/Archives/2019#Miraheze. If someone isn't welcome here for very good reasons, I don't see why we'd intentionally direct other people their way. Legoktm (talk) 01:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
I agree with the removal. The essay only includes websites that we recommend. Listing, say, Quora doesn't mean that Quora is excellent in every regard (far from it; Wikipedia isn't perfect in every regard either), but it's a popular, not a marginal, website, with much good content. Therefore it can be recommended. Including or not a mention of Miraheze in the essay rests on consensus, now that it has been disputed. Those who advocate inclusion can start a discussion that can lead to such a consensus. From my angle, the site is marginal and not worthy of a recomendation. —Alalch E. 14:46, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-51

MediaWiki message delivery 23:58, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Happy New Year!

Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, Lego!

The other day, I was having a conversation with someone about holiday cards and social media. It occurred to me that, in the years since I left Facebook, the site I use most to communicate with people I like isn't actually a social media site at all. If you're receiving this, it's pretty likely I've talked with you more recently than I have my distant relatives and college friends on FB, at very least, and we may have even collaborated on something useful. So here's a holiday "card", Wikipedia friend. :) Hope the next couple weeks bring some fun and/or rest. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:39, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: same to you! Looking forward to more collaborations in 2023 :) Legoktm (talk) 03:10, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights

On 31 December 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights has been described as "Canada's most prominent pro-gun group"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Canadian Coalition for Firearm Rights), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

-- RoySmith (talk) 00:03, 31 December 2022 (UTC)