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Kyriakos, I reverted your edit to the Australian totals in the above because I cannot see why you say there's only 156 bios done. If you look at Category:Australian ODI cricketers you'll see at the top it says "There are 159 pages in this section of this category.". Subtract one for the list itself and we have 158 articles.
By the way, thanks for your editing of cricket articles - your help is very much appreciated. Regards -- Ian ≡ talk 02:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
- Kyriakos, I'm unsure of what "full list" your referring to. In List of cricketers and List of Australian ODI cricketers, there are blue links to Rod McCurdy (was previously Rodney McCurdy until 16/2) and to Graeme Porter (was previously misspelt as Graham Porter until 16/2). So both of these full lists show 100% (ie. 158) articles completed.
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It was the established operation of the WikiProject Saints to have a section in the info box on a sample prayer. Some editors have been recently been attacking this in the individual articles.
It is my belief that prayers in a literary or historic context are NPOV. I can understand that some may consider the inclusion of a prayer to be hagiographic, but freedom of religion is not freedom from religion.
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I just wanted to let you know about the big WikiProject A-League 2005–06 player project. It is an attempt to bring the articles on every player who played in the A-League in 2005–06 up to standard. Check out the main page for the player project to get the full list of players as well as useful links and stats to help out. Hopefully we can get the full list done before the beginning of the 2006–07 season. Don't forget to update the counts (they will automatically update the status bar) as you go. Thanks! AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 10:16, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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Move request for emperors of the Palaeologus/Palaiologos dynasty
Hi. There is a move request for several Palaeologus/Palaiologos dynasty emperors at Talk:List of Byzantine Emperors. I tought you might be interested in.--Panairjdde 21:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Cretan War
Hi. Nice job on your edits of the Cretan War. You've improved the article. Hu Gadarn 14:51, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
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Hey, thanks for all of your work assessing these articles! Just one minor point: categories should always be tagged as |class=NA, since they aren't really articles, and don't follow the same requirements. Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 12:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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Article tagging
Just wanted to point out to you that you seem to be adding a second {{WPMILHIST}} tags to talk pages that already have one, instead of updating the ones they have (see Talk:Teleutias and Talk:Mindarus, for example). --RobthTalk 06:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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Homosexuality in Ancient Greece
There was a revert war going on in that article. I added a section which shows other scholarly opinions which suggest most Ancient Greeks did not practice homosexuality. It was immediately reverted even though I gave sources. The only reason they had was because it was done by a sockpuppet. If YOU go to that article and go to "history" and revert to the last edit by james577 we can add some truth to it. And they won't have an excuse since you are not a sockpuppet. You are a proud Greek and you should do it. Tame500 02:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
What do you want me to revert? (PS. I don't want to become part of an editing war.) Kyriakos 04:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I want you to revert back to the revision of james577. The only reason it couldnt get done is because it was done by a sockpuppet. If you do it, they will have no reason to change.
- Hi, Kyriakos. James577, Tame500 and Sam328 are all sockpuppets of the banned user Cretanpride. He's been upset for several months now about the article Homosexuality in Ancient Greece; he seems to think that it defames Greek history and culture. As it happens, the article reflects a widespread scholarly consensus, that a certain form of homosexual behaviour was a widely accepted part of ancient Greek culture in the city-states, and other forms were discouraged and stigmatized; it doesn't say that all, or even most, ancient Greeks practiced it, though Cretanpride seems to think it does. The article used to be more one-sided, but now mentions the minority view that homosexual practices were largely limited to the aristocracy; however, this isn't good enough for Cretanpride. After several blocks for edit warring, 3RR violations, disruption and sockpuppetry (see here), Cretanpride was banned, but he's continued to create sockpuppets and try to push for his POV. I'm sorry that he tried to drag you into the dispute. Let me know if you have any questions, and sorry that you were disturbed. âJosiah Rowe (talk ⢠contribs) 05:31, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
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Review of Cretan War
The review can be formal if you wish! I've just created the peer-review section. Check Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History of Greece#Cretan War. Regards!--Yannismarou 12:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
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Cretan War
Unfortunately this project is actually inactive, because its founder could not and still cannot energetically participate for some reasons. I now saw you had submitted the article for A-Class status in the Military project. If I knew it I'd have voted (not that my vote would change everything). When I return from Myconos in a couple of days, I'll go once again through the article and I'll do some prose tweaks. I think the article will finally pass A-Class Candidacy. FAC is the most difficult task! ÎÎ±Î»Ï Î£Î±Î²Î²Î±ÏοκÏÏιακο!--Yannismarou 10:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
- I have now finished copyediting the article. Sorry it took so long; I just forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me though! I have one inquiry in particular now that I've given it a second look....towards the end of the Piracy and war section, you describe the battle between the Macedonians and the Rhodians in a somewhat disjointed fashion. For example, in the following paragraph the Macedonians are doing well:
- With the treaty concluded, Philip's army then attacked Ptolemy's territories in Thrace. Then the Macedonian fleet headed south and took over the island of Samos, which belonged to Ptolemy V, and captured the Egyptian fleet stationed there. The fleet then turned north and laid siege to the island of Chios. The combined navies of Pergamum, Rhodes, Cyzicus and Byzantium under the command of Attalus and Theophiliscus of Rhodes attacked the Macedonian fleet under the command of Philip between Chios and the mainland of Asia Minor. Attalus' group of ships were separated from the rest of the fleet and were pursued by Philip but managed to make it to the mainland. He thought that his enemies would catch up to him so he scattered coins from his treasury ship on the sand so when the Macedonians landed would not chase after him but instead would stop to gather the loot. When Philip landed and found Attalus' ships abandoned he thought that the Pergamese monarch had perished. He then towed off the ships that Attalus had deserted on the beach. Meanwhile Attalus escaped to Erythrae.[14]
- But then, the next sentence reads:
- The battle turned to the allies' favour and the Macedonian fleet was routed. The Rhodians and their allies then returned to their base in Chios.
- How did this happen exactly? How did the tide of the battle turn? You should probably explain this because right now the transition seems very harsh and abrupt.UberCryxic 18:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- All-right, now it's good!UberCryxic 20:46, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey, there's a dispute at the talk page of the Charles de Gaulle article. Can you please offer your opinion on the relevant sources towards the bottom. A straw poll has also been started (I left a message about this on the talk page of the MILHIST project as well). Thank you!UberCryxic 23:15, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
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Cretan War & A-Class
If I might make a suggestion: UberCryxic was offering to copyedit articles on request recently; I'd ask him to go over the article a few times, looking in particular for the issues raised during the various A-Class reviews. Hopefully that'll clear up any remaining concerns. Kirill Lokshin 01:57, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Ask him to do some more! (No, seriously. I often find that, coming back to an article after a week or two of not touching it, I can see more places where improvements can be made. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 13:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
African military history
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/African military history task force#How to organize this task force needs some attention. Thanks Wandalstouring 21:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Cretan War
Îλα. Î£Ï Î³Î³Î½Ïμη για Ïην ÎºÎ±Î¸Ï ÏÏÎÏηÏη, αλλά μÏÎ»Î¹Ï ÏήμεÏα ÏαλάÏÏÏε λίγο Ïο ÏÏÏγÏαμμά Î¼Î¿Ï . Îια Ïο άÏθÏο ÏÏÏα (θα Ï'Ïα ÏÏ ÏÏα αγγλικά!):
I went once again quickly throught the article. It looks fine. My major concern is that users who are often reviewing in FAC like Raymond Palmer were not positive. I also think that all the concerns have to do with prose and typos. The references and the photos are fine (although you still don't have pages in two of your citations!).
UberCruxic obviously upgraded the prose level and it might be OK in FAC as it is now. But again I think it'd be a close call. The ideal solution would be a second independent copy-editing. If I had to suggest a second copy-editor, I'd definitely suggest User:Robth, who is, according to me, the best copy-editor around in military history articles. But I know that his program is more than full right now! Even if he does not have the time to copy-edit, you could politely ask him to review the article.
If you think that this plan for a second copy-edit-review is diffucult to be implemented, then go yourself once again line by line through the text. It does not matter if you have read the article 100 times already! Once again! And very very carefully! In order to correct typos and prose deficiences you might unexpectedely find. And then go for FAC and be ready to give your fight!
I hope I helped!--Yannismarou 10:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Îαλά, δεν είναι οÏÏÏÏ Î® άλλÏÏ ÏοβαÏÏ 8Îμα και η Ï ÏοÏÏήÏιξή Î¼Î¿Ï ÎµÎ¯Î½Î±Î¹ δεδομÎνη. ÎλλÏÏÏε, θα μείνει κάÏÎ¿Î¹ÎµÏ Î¼ÎÏÎµÏ ÎµÎºÎµÎ¯ Ïο άÏθÏο και 8α ÎÏÎµÎ¹Ï ÎºÎ±Î¹ÏÏ Î½Î± βÏÎµÎ¹Ï Î¼Î¹Î± λÏÏη (Ïο ίδιο Ïο βιβλίο - ÏαÏÏμοια Ïηγή κÏλ.)--Yannismarou 12:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- Kyriakos. I wonder if you would like this picture of Philip V found here History of Greece in the info-box, and the map (which I'm currently changing to English) where the statelite map was? Raymond Palmer 19:33, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey congrats on getting this to FA! You should've told me it was up for nomination so I could've supported. Thankfully it didn't matter though. Good job!UberCryxic 22:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you.--Yannismarou 12:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Tagging articles
Any article related to this task force should be marked by adding African-task-force=yes to the {{WPMILHIST}} project banner at the top of its talk page (see the project banner instructions for more details on the exact syntax). This will automatically place it into Category:African military history task force articles. Greatings Wandalstouring 23:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Barnstar
It is an honor for me to award you this barsnstar.--Yannismarou 20:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Bravo re Kyriako! Sygxarhthria ki apo mena! NikoSilver 20:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- Let me add my congrats to.
It's really rare to see such a devotion and talent for ancient history as in your case. Congrats again,--Aldux 20:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
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Of course, it is (If I understood your question). There is also a template for this task: Template:Cite web. You can also see how I personally do that in articles like El Greco.--Yannismarou 08:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi! I've GA reviewed it, and, well, it seems largely pretty good, but the writing is a bit choppy and the comma use poor. On the whole, though, it's quite good, so I think it should be FA after a bit of work, which I'll help with. Adam Cuerden talk 16:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
- Someone might fail it in the interim, but don't worry if that happens: The procedure says that if the reviewer is willing, he can promote it at a later time, without the person who suggested it having to put it through the list again =) Adam Cuerden talk 00:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
GA review
Hi, thanks for the contact regarding this article. It's great to see you have taken the review on board in a positive way.
The article appears most interesting but needs alot of work to take it forward, particularly if you would like it to reach GA status.
One of the best ways to get high quality feedback is to visit Wikipedia:Peer review and follow the instructions there.
With regards to your question about pictures however, are there no pictures from the Sparta or Roman related articles from which you can use? Are there any of the sites, weapons, armour etc? Famous statues, art, portraits of commanders?
Two major issues with this article are the excessive introduction (see WP:LEAD), and the limited range of sources (consider visiting other online encyclopedias for references (Britannica, Encarta etc)).
I hope I've been of help as I would like this article to develop and reach its goals. Thanks, Jhamez84 23:06, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
My opinion
Kyriakos, just be careful with Jhamez84's suggestions. I know he wants to help, but I'm afraid some of his recommendations could harm the article. For instance:
- "Nabis, the tyrant of Sparta, gained the Spartan throne in 207 BC after he deposed (not "disposed") the rightful king.": This sentence is NOT biased. I believe Jhamez84 is wrong. I don't know why he regerds it as POV. Maybe because he misunderstood the word "tyrant". In any case, I regard your description as historically accurate. Think twice before you change it!
- The lead of World War II is a bad bad bad example! Your lead is a bit long, but, don't use the lead Jhamez84 mentions as an example. Just follow WP:LEAD's instructions.
With some tweaks your article is an easy GAC. After all, it is awarded A-Class status by the Military Project, which is above GA status! Regard the GA nomination (if you still want to go on with it) as an additional review before FAC. And don't take for granted what the GA reviewers say! They are often wrong I'm afraid! At least in FAC you (usually!) have more than one reviewer! Τα λÎμε!--Yannismarou 20:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- With regards to the above comments made - see the peer review which agrees that "Nabis, the tyrant of Sparta, gained the Spartan throne in 207 BC after he deposed (not "disposed") the rightful king." was a biased statement.
- Also per the per review, your lead is not concise enough, and I was right to suggest it should be altered.
- I'm glad the peer review agreeded with my statements as I have alot of experience in reviewing essays as part of my job, and I used this experience for this article.
- I'm very willing to help out with any issues you think you would like support on, as although I failed the article, I am here to help. Best of luck ! Jhamez84 00:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Question
Dear Kyriakos,
Could you take a look at the FAC candidate Ohio Wesleyan University. I'd greatly appreciate any suggestions that you may have to improve the article!!! WikiprojectOWU 07:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Roman-Spartan War
Cut the introducing summary again. It shouldn't be longer than the article. Thanks Wandalstouring 02:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- Kyriakos, I just wanted to tell you that I didn't mean to rollback your post to Robth, believe me, I'm very embarassed, I don't know how it happened, I must have distractly touched the button.
Sorry again,--Aldux 00:20, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- We had it sourced with Livy that the free Laconians were a Roman protectorate. If some modern scholars say differently, OK, but still we have to mention all POV. The Achean league itself was very reliant on Roman protection and support, so anything under "Achean protection" was in fact under Roman protection in case it mattered to Rome. Wandalstouring 20:35, 28 December 2006(UTC)
- I don't mind Holleaux. He can say what he wants, but Livy is a primary source and if he says Rome you have to mention it (of course you mention both versions in this case). Holleaux needs to source his claim with a primary source that the free Laconians were an Achean protectorate (as far as that is possible, because primary sources don't mention the Acheans acting a lot on their own). So where is his primary source? Wandalstouring 11:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- We had it sourced with Livy that the free Laconians were a Roman protectorate. If some modern scholars say differently, OK, but still we have to mention all POV. The Achean league itself was very reliant on Roman protection and support, so anything under "Achean protection" was in fact under Roman protection in case it mattered to Rome. Wandalstouring 20:35, 28 December 2006(UTC)
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Thank you.--Yannismarou 15:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Merry Christmas! And do not be too anxious about Roman-Spartan War. I'm sure the article will soon be excellent!--Yannismarou 15:13, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Check your email
I've just sent you scans of the Holleaux and Gruen. Semperf 00:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- You should be able to download it here: http://www.4shared.com/file/7949184/8fbe9d0d/Gruen001.html and http://www.4shared.com/file/7949148/2abd9e2a/Holleaux001.htmlSemperf 00:50, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- Towards the bottom of the page, right above the bold "Send High Quality Images" is a link, "download file, click here" (it is the last part of the page to load, it seems) Semperf 00:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
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ISBN of the Gruen is 0-520-05737-6; Cambridge Ancient History (1st ed.), vol. 8, first published 1930 by Cambridge University Press. Semperf 01:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
more comments
I've made a few comments at the nomination page. On the whole, I think what the article needs is a careful rewrite to try to contextualize things a bit. Gruen should be helpful here. But really, what it needs is a bit of time and reflection. So I suggest that you wait a day. Read the Gruen, think about it. Read the article, think about it. Then slowly begin to weave some of the bigger picture into the text. Hope this helps. Semperf 02:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
was there something specific?
I sent you an email in response to your comment yesterday to ask whether there was some specific part of the Holleaux that you're interested in. Is there? Semperf 03:36, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Re: Portal
You'll need to add {{Random portal component}} to the main portal page, then create a set of numbered subpages (e.g. Portal:Military of Greece/Selected article/1, Portal:Military of Greece/Selected article/2, etc.) for it to rotate through. Hope that helps! Kirill Lokshin 07:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Meh. The standard title for such portals seems to be "Military of ...", not "Military history of ..."; is there any particular reason you prefer the longer one? Kirill Lokshin 07:26, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- That seems reasonable enough under either title, though; there's no real restriction on what portals need to cover. Kirill Lokshin 07:29, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- It's looking quite good now; but there's a "Quotes" section that's missing. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 05:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- Looks good! The thumbnail formatting on the selected picture is causing some alignment issues; I suggest taking it off and just using center tags to manually align the images with the captions. Kirill Lokshin 19:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- It might be doable, but you'd basically need to maintain the statistics by hand; it's a question of whether you're willing to devote the time to doing so. Kirill Lokshin 22:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- The easiest way would probably be to get PockBot run on Category:Military of Greece and then add up the results. Kirill Lokshin 22:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- You could go through all the sub-categories and count up the articles by hand, I suppose; but that'll take a while. Kirill Lokshin 23:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, you could probably just copy the table setup from WP:MHA#Historical counts and then fill in your own numbers. Does that seem reasonable, or are you looking for something else? Kirill Lokshin 23:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sure, but I'm not sure why that would be preferable; the current status table includes a set of redundant counts due to the fact that it's bot-generated. Kirill Lokshin 23:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- Looks very nice! There's probably more articles aroundâ347 seems like a low number for Greek military historyâbut finding them all will be a time consuming process. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 06:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Apologies (Roman-Spartan War)
For my frankness and lack of explanation. I attempted to provide ideas but may have fallen short. These points will be added to the FA page.
- Livy too heavily depended upon
- Article doesn't compare to current FA in the category of war. Algerian Civil War was the example I found. Of course less information may be available due to the historical nature of the article).
- Article failed GA status (possibly at quite an earlier stage but I was under the impression that the article was quite young) and so would be better suited being put through that again (I know not an argument per se but I wanted to point it out). Ciraric 22:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Your GA nomination
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FAC
I do not know if there is an official procedure. In my first withdrawn FAC of El Greco, Tom just removed the nomination link from WP:FAC. Maybe you could also ask Raul about that. Don't you want to fight the nomination any more?--Yannismarou 11:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Roman-Spartan War
Unfortunately, it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to get my hands on any of the secondary sources recommended on the FAC until Jan 10 or so--I can't find them in the libraries at home, so I'll have to wait until I'm back at school. --RobthTalk 21:49, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: Treaties
If those treaties had something to do with military affairs, wars, etc., then yes. (It should be noted, of course, that most peace treaty articles tend to wind up getting merged into the associated war articles; it's only a small number of treaties that really warrant full articles of their own.) Kirill Lokshin 05:36, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
- I would say so, yes. Kirill Lokshin 05:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
pages
Check your emailSemperf 23:03, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Re:map
If I knew one, I'd surely linked it in my comment :( -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 20:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: Map
See WP:MILHIST#Maps. I can't promise you anything, though; we haven't had much luck requesting maps in the past. Kirill Lokshin 20:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Re:Roman-Spartan War
Except for citation 3, which looks like half-citation and half-note, IMO it is fine.--Yannismarou 10:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: Possible WPMILHIST articles
I would say no, for both, although al-Zarqawi is admittedly borderline. Claudius didn't really have a sigificant military role, though; and there's almost no coverage of military affairs in his article. Kirill Lokshin 14:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
source for length of lances
Do you have a source for the increased length of lances at hand? (Otherwise I have to search and stop reading Livy, yes, lazy me.Wandalstouring 20:45, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: Other names
Yep, that seems like a good idea. Kirill Lokshin 23:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'd give both, if space permits; extra information rarely hurts. Kirill Lokshin 23:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- The font size is too large, I think. In general, it's probably not a good idea to hardcode the font size. Kirill Lokshin 23:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Numbers of Spartan troops
do I count right if there are 30,000 Spartan troops? 15,000 stationed in Argos, 10,000 citizens, 3,000 new mercenaries and 1,000 basic mercenaries + 1,000 specially selected? =30,000 + citizens from Argos? Wandalstouring 20:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: Standards and Banners
If they have military use, they probably qualify. ;-)
(We probably ought to have some sort of military insignia task force started up eventually; but I don't think there's any real interest in it at the moment.) Kirill Lokshin 22:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
check email
Sorry, I was travelling. I've sent some of what you wanted. Semperf 00:22, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Roman-Spartan War
I found out some minor infomation about the Spartan armour of the time. They used a Thracian helmet which had no nose guard and left more room unprotected at the front of the face than the Corinthian helmet. Kyriakos 00:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- Ok, so they were equiped pretty normal, but not light (Macedonian troops often lacked helmets). Can you add this with a reference at well armed phalangites?Wandalstouring 00:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thanks for the barnstar
Thanks for the barnstar, Kyriakos. Keep up the good work on Greek history! Semperf 19:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
Some issues on the Roman Spartan War
While most editors probably won't notice and let the article pass FA, there are some issues that remain unclear.
- Why did all naval powers of the Aegean sea and Rome have such an immense interest in hindering tiny Sparta from building some ships?
- How exactly were the Spartans armed. Sparta had hoplite units for the longest time and made their shield longer and thus heavier, but also the lances longer and shorter swords. and traditionally they could have quite a lot of light infantry. It isn't clear whether the neodymen that compromised the majority of later Spartan troops used a similar equipment or were armed more like the rest of Greece. Furthermore there was the introduction of a throwing spear(xyston) among hoplites so while we lack sources it may be possible that the Spartan troops fought with throwing spears and afterwards a hoplite phalanx.
- It isn't clear whether the numbers belong to the army or navy and how many of them were Romans, Acheans, etc.
- Writing more about the short lifed military and social reforms of Nabis could help to give more background info. See for example Battle of Marathon
- What happened to the Spartans who were too poor to be full Spartans? were they restored by Nabis? Did they help with military know-how?
- How did Nabis rise to power. Perhaps give a short explanation why the time before Nabis was considered one of Sparta's weakest and that he was not the first tyrant + short note on the Agiad- Eurypontid conflict ending the dual monarchy
- Machanidas (a tyrant) 210 - 207 BC
- Pelops (Eurypontid) 210 - 206 BC - last King from either of the old dynasties, opponent of Machanidas.
- I think there is a problem with the copy-right tag of Image:Ancient peloponnese.jpg.
- In "Notes" Cretan and Lance need some citing IMO.
- Before going to FAC check once again typos and possible prose deficiencies.
- I don't know if the lack of a map of the military campaign itself will count in FAC. For me it is not that important, but I cannot predict other users' stance.--Yannismarou 14:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Wandalstouring 23:41, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- I read a bit on the Spartans(see on my talkpage some booksand links are mentioned with more info) and hope the things are sufficient now. The material isn't detailed on all military aspects, but I hope sufficient. Try another editor to check language and style(I can't see these things anymore) 'cos I have been sitting in front of this article for too long. Wandalstouring 19:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- Ask PocklingtonDan whether it can pass FA. I read this thing so often I'm unlikely to pinpoint the errors. Wandalstouring 21:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
- I read a bit on the Spartans(see on my talkpage some booksand links are mentioned with more info) and hope the things are sufficient now. The material isn't detailed on all military aspects, but I hope sufficient. Try another editor to check language and style(I can't see these things anymore) 'cos I have been sitting in front of this article for too long. Wandalstouring 19:10, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Roman-Spartan War
Could you do all necessary edits once and then wait until the prose is fixed. Just do edit when there occurs an error concerning the factual accuracy. Otherwise it will be an endless task to improve the language. Wandalstouring 12:07, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Siege of Paros
ΧαίÏεÏαι. The Persian Wars box was expanded by me several months ago mostly to show how wide the conflict was. It contains already several errors, having Sardis third instead of second. I am not sure if Paros is part of the conflict since it was a war among Greeks and if we are to add Paros why not add the war betzeen Aegina and Athens which is more relevant? In any case a better time to discuss the issue which is purely theoretical is after the article is written Ikokki 16:06, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: Portal
My advice: read the current nominations on WP:FPCAN, looking at the objections; if you spot any of them in your portal, fix them. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 02:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Pfff!! I know the problem. There are indeed overlaps. And the WP:GREECE is not actually working! It looks like a dead project. After all most of the Wikipedians know WP:HOG and not WP:GREECE. Merge seems the most reasonable solution. But I'm really not sure which project should be merged to the other! WP:GREECE is dead but with a broader scope! WP:HOG is working with more members but with a more limited scope. On the other hand we must see what should be done with the archives of WP:HOG. And if we merge the last one into WP:GREECE will all the members of the first one accept to be members of the second one? I don't know ... Having initiated WP:HOG, I don't think I have the clear mind needed in this case; maybe I'm not so objective in this case.
You can also check the discussion I initiated here , but led nowhere. In any case, I'm open to suggestions.--Yannismarou 15:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- I will!--Yannismarou 07:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Excellent work!
Adelphe, I am very proud of you. Once I re-upload my Shield of Honor picture, I am going to reward you for everything you have done on the Maniots article. Thank you for enhancing the article's quality and providing it with much needed sources and citations. I took the liberty of correcting certain mistakes (spelling and grammar errors). Overall, I am very impressed and happy that the article is becoming more detailed and comprehensive. When I return from my vacation, I will gather my sources (I might have to buy a few more) and help you in further augmenting the quality of the article. There are a few things I need to cross-check with you and hopefully we can collaborate further in ensuring that the facts presented on the article reflect actual historical events. Take care and keep up the good work! Later adelphe. Deucalionite 18:46, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
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Re: Sub-categories
A sub-category is placed in a category the same way an article is; you need to add the category tag ([[Category:Foo]]) to the actual sub-category page. Hope that helps! Kirill Lokshin 15:23, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: Maniots
I suppose that it would, to an extent; but the article is getting to be quite long. I would actually suggest splitting out much of the military history to a separate article (or series of articles); e.g. Military history of the Maniots, Military history of the Maniots in the Ottoman period, etc. That would both allow for a broader overview article (the Maniots do have non-military aspects to write about, after all) that wouldn't be absurdly long, and neatly solve the scoping problem. Kirill Lokshin 01:42, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- You could do both; have an overview article that covers everything, and then a separate article just for the autonomous period, which would have a summary section (using {{details}}) in the overview article. Kirill Lokshin 05:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, about your suggestion of first hearing Deucalionite: there is a little problem, I'm afraid. It just so happens that I had to block him for an extended period of time just the other day, over an unrelated issue of image copyright. The timing is intirely incidental, I can assure you, although he'll probably think I just wanted him out of the way. Now, we have four options: wait till he's back; get his input only through his own talkpage; get him unblocked to enable him to participate; or simply go ahead regardless of him. To be absolutely frank with you, I'm biased in this matter, as I have a history of rather negative interactions with the guy, and I have no confidence in his ability to contribute constructively to such a discussion. My honest opinion is that the article is better off without him, and so are our chances of continuing to have a good constructive collaboration. But of course I'm aware it would be unfair if I used my own block in order to force this through. All I'm saying is, we have no moral obligation to wait for him, and I'd personally recommend we shouldn't. If he really wants to contribute, he can always get his block lifted by some other admin any time, by simply promising not to continue doing what got him blocked. But I doubt he'll do that. Fut.Perf. â¼ 12:32, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
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Re: Roman-Spartan War
I'd go ahead and nominate it. It's unlikely to improve in terms of writing style by just sitting there; even if the nomination doesn't succeed, it'll attract the attention of anyone who thinks the style can be improved.
(I'd suggest combining the two instances of {{externalimages}}, though, and placing them next to the footnotes, to avoid such a large block of templates at the top of the article.) Kirill Lokshin 19:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree on this acoount. Keep them seperated.
- Improve the language before nomination. 00:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Re: GA
I'm not sure I really see the point of having our own version of it. If we don't want to follow the outside process, we could just as easily condense the scale; there's no particular need for a level between A-Class and B-Class. (Essentially, our B-Class is going to function as a GA-like process, with a single reviewer evaluating based on set criteria; a separate version of this for GA seems like a waste of time.) Kirill Lokshin 02:31, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
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Hi! My responses
Sorry, for the delay in responding, but I did not forger. The problem is that during the week I also work and I do not have mush time for WP. Well, let's start:
- Roman-Spartan War: I cannot predict the outcome of a new FA. It may succeed, because it is now better, I would support it, but I do not know what the others will do. One reservation I have is that the article already has two failed GACs. I may not agree with GAC's reviewers decisions, but they are official decisions whether we like it or not; and they are quite recent. I'm afraid this may influence FA reviewers. I suggest you get the article first through GAC, and then go for FAC.
- I'll check Maniot in detail during the weekend.
- I saw you are in editor's review. Do you intend to run for adm?
Cheers!--Yannismarou 20:38, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Your Editor Review
Hey, just letting you know, I've left some comments on your editor review page. DÃ¥vid Fuchs [talk • contribs] 03:11, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
- Whoops too slow on the draw, you responded on my talk page first... DÃ¥vid Fuchs [talk • contribs] 03:12, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Eretria
Hi Kyriakos.
Sorry for my late response old friend, I've just been quite busy. Firstly, I'd like to thank you for that Barnstar, I am honoured to be given that by a Wikipedian who obviously knows his stuff quite well. But now let's get to business shall we LOL. I received your re-route link to the talk on the Siege of Eretria, and now realize what they are looking for. I'm going to try to make the wording stronger. One problem is that they want more and different sources, which will be rather difficult because that engagement is rather a minor one when compared to Thermopylae, Salamis etc. Thus Herodotus is the only significant authority on the battle. I'm going to try and look for modern analysis on the battle and try to incorporate it. By the way, I wanted to add that if you have any particular articles you are working, please don't hesitate in telling me, I would be quite happy to assist and copy-edit them and add whatever insight I may have on them. That Roman-Spartan War seems to be really coming along.
By the way, just one question regarding the functioning of Wiki, is there any particular and effective way of finding the number of edits one has? It has really puzzled me, how do I count them all up, there is just a giant list. LOL. --Arsenous Commodore 21:53, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
Hey Kyriakos, thanks for the link to the edit counter and the invite to the Greek history club. I am delighted to join it and have enthusiastically put it on my userpage. Oh yes, and indeed I shall certainly take a look at the Roman-Spartan War FAC, I'll see if I can formulate any ideas for it.--Arsenous Commodore 05:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh I had no idea any regular user could support the FAC, I thought it was only the role of specific admins in particular categories (in this case history heads to support) and the authors. Very well, if I approve, how do I make my voice heard, do I just write under the FAC (Spartan Roman War) that I support it being FAC? Sorry Kyriakos, I'm still a little new here. So where exactly do I suggest/write it's ready for FA? If you tell me I am more than happy to.--Arsenous Commodore 06:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Well I added my summary there, but I am going to continue to carefully read and edit the article to near perfection, so we have a situtation where the reviewers don't have even the smallest issues to nit-pick. LOL.--Arsenous Commodore 06:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh woops, stupid me, I forgot. Yes indeed, "Support" all the way from me. And you are very welcome my friend.--Arsenous Commodore 06:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
I just put in "Support" for the article on the FAC page. Have I done it correctly Kyriakos, is there no mistaken in how I have written it? I just want to make sure.--Arsenous Commodore 06:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Nabis bibliography
Here is what the New Pauly (an online encyclopedia on the Greco-Roman world) cite as bibliography for Nabis:
- E.S. Gruen, The Hellenistic World and the Coming of Rome, vol. 2, 1984
- B. Shimron, Late Sparta. The Spartan Revolution 243-146 B.C., 1972
- A.H.M. Jones, Sparta, 1968.
- P. Oliva, Sparta and Her Social Problems, 1971, 274-298
- J.-G. Texier, Nabis, 1975
- P.Cartledge, A. Spawforth, Hellenistic and Roman Sparta, 1989, 59-79.
I'll see if I can round some of this up for you in the next day or two. Semperf 22:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- Do you have the Gruen, which I have right here? I can send a pdf. Semperf 22:44, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- You can download the Gruen here: [1]. It doesn't seem like I have any of the others here. Semperf 23:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
- Some of the things that I mentioned at the FAC I went in a changed myself. I have to go out now, but will try to look at this some more later. Semperf 00:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- You can download the Gruen here: [1]. It doesn't seem like I have any of the others here. Semperf 23:20, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Roman-Spartan War
Could you look up the exact Greek terms (in Greek letters) for full citizen Spartan, Lacaedomonia and Sparta in old Greek, prefereably Doric or Koine. Modern research literature often uses exact old Greek terms rather than transcriptions. Possibly this can also be added to other Greek terms, but note not modern Greek, Doric or Koine. Wandalstouring 22:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
How to proceed on Roman-Spartan War
You have the rare luck that someone with a professional background reviews Roman-Spartan War. This is a good start to turn it into an extraordinary work. Perhaps you can remember when the article was entirely referenced with Livy. In this case you were criticised for not using modern scholarly literature. Your reaction was to replace the quotes from Livy with references to modern scholars who referenced their statements from Livy. A better approach would have been if you didn't remove the references to Livy, but mentioned secondary and tertiary sources that supported the interpretation of Livy you chose to present, but without any need to replace the Livy inline citations. What Semperf essentially wants is the Livy and Polybius referenced version. Furthermore he objects to some of your secondary sources because their factual accuracy may be flawed, while others are recognized works. As far as I can see you quoted nothing important from these sources, so I suggest to remove them and work together with Semperf to bring any sections that are based on these works in accordance with primary and recognized secondary works. Greetings Wandalstouring 04:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
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map
I think the copy-right of the map that you put on my page is OK. (I've replaced the tag). The map itself is not too bad, but having the colorized regions is a bit unhelpful, since those don't reflect the political geography of the time. I think if we keep looking we can do better. Semperf 13:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thank Semperf for the maps. I was too slow. Wandalstouring 10:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
My RFA
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thank you
Congrats on getting the article to FA. Kyriakos 01:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! I don't think I had realised quite how much work was involved, its tough to get an article to FA status! Thanks for your comments. I will keep working on the article - PocklingtonDan (talk) 08:06, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
a few more things about Sparta-Roman war
Hi Kyriakos. I'm in the process of striking some of my comments that are no longer relevant or that I no longer care about.
- One of the things that still needs to be fixed is in the formatting of references:
- in italics with the double-single-quotemark '', but the italic is not ended with another, but with a single double-quotemark ("). The result is this: Holleaux, Rome and the Mediterranean; 218-133 B.C", 190. This needs to be fixed.
- Also, is there no way to replace the Smith? Semperf 14:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I don't think so. Smith gives facts that I have not been able to find in other sources. Kyriakos 20:52, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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Congrats on the FA
Just saw Roman-Spartan War had made it to FA, congratulations - as I know from experience its no easy task! :-) - PocklingtonDan (talk) 15:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
- Conratulations! The article is great, and your effort has been rewarded. Go for your next FA now! Maybe Greek War of Independence? If yes, I'll soon be able to assist you there (I hope!).--Yannismarou 17:58, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Re: Article Advancements
Hi Kyriakos, firstly congrats on the Roman-Spartan War FA class. I look forward to improving the mentioned articles, especially the Peloponnesian War. Unfortunately, as you can tell from my long time to respond, I haven't had Internet access recently at my home because I am in the midst of changing my ISP, infact I am writing to you right now from a school computer. My Internet conondrum should be fixed by March 1. Following immediately that date, I can get back to my regular editing. I look forward to working together on the new articles old friend.--Arsenous Commodore 16:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
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Beginning MIC (i.e. Massive Intimidation Campaign)
Hi Kyriakos, I'm happy you've been easily elected coordinator for the Military History Project :-) Don't you think it's time for a nice RfA? Obviously I don't have to be necessarily the nominator, as you may prefer Yannis, as you've collaborated so much with him. What I'm afraid is severely prohibited is to refuse: sadly WP:SECRET CLAUSES makes it clear (if you know the clauses that is ;-)) that acceptance must be prompt and ready ;-) Now, you don't want to violate them, do you ;-) Come on, another secret clause promises a piece of cake for those who partecipate to a RfA. To this it could be added that we don't have enough admins with a true dedication to Greek history, as we need admins that are always friendly and coolheaded :-) Ciao,--Aldux 15:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, you'll have to wait for the cake ;-) Thanks for your kind (too kind) words on my modest work, I'm happy you've accepted, and it will be a great honour for me to nominate you. I'll present the RfA during the week, only keep this well in mind: take time to awnser to the questions, as many voters vote basing themselves on those, especially by the awnser to the first question (i.e. "What sysop chores do you anticipate helping with?"). Be prepared to face some criticism for your low use of edit summaries. Buona fortuna!--Aldux 16:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Coordintors please drop by
The old coordinators (Kirill, Dryzen and me) decided to established a kind of regular meeting of the coordinators. The intention is to exchange information, opinions and coordinate our work. The current meeting is here. Wandalstouring 00:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations!
Congrats on your election as a new Coordinator for WP:MILHIST! May all your "gang a-viking" be gleeful! â Askari Mark (Talk) 18:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, by the way! And congrats to you too! Carom 21:51, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thanks, and you have my support too! --Petercorless 08:20, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Felicitation! You derserved it, your dedication thus applauded.--Dryzen 15:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Task Force for Spanish MilHis
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- If you're still interested, the task force was created: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Spanish_military_history_task_force. JonCatalan 00:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you.--Yannismarou 18:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Laconian War
I just found out that you're the creator of the article, so I guess it will be easier if you perform the move. My move was reverted, eventhough it was a clear WP:NAME issue. The 'Spartan-Roman war' name doesn't exist anywhere, nor does it describe the conflict correctly. "Laconian War" exists in English translations of Greco-Roman texts and is therefore not OR. Do you agree to rename the article temporarily to "Laconian War, at least until the most popular name is discovered? In my opinion this is it. I'm against the use of non-existing terminology in wikipedia. Thanks. Miskin 17:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
RfA
Hi Kyriakos, sorry for awnsering so late to your question, but wasn't sure how to awnser, so I first decided to consult a friend, and had to wait for his response. After the consultation, two possibilities emerged: 1) let the RfA reach its natural end, and use the negative votes to better yourself, so, if unfortunately you don't do it this time (remember you need 80% supports, 75-80% bureaucrats decide), you will be in a stronger position next time. 2) withdraw from the RfA, by removing your nomination (that is taking away {{Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Kyriakos}} from the WP:RfA page), if you feel the chances to reach consensus are low.--Aldux 17:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Advice: don't withdraw! It is going to be a close call, but, in any case, even if you fail, it is not going to be a "humiliating defeat" (a 68% percentage of support is nothing but himiliating! Raul recently promoted an adm with 69% per cent of support, but there was strong reaction to his decision! In any case, nothing is yet definitive in your RfA), but a good basis for your second RfA after some time.--Yannismarou 19:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Your RfA
I am sorry to inform you that your Request for Adminship (RfA) has failed to reach sufficient consensus for promotion, and has now been delisted and archived. Please do not look upon this outcome as a discouragement, but rather as an opportunity to improve. Try to address the concerns raised during your RfA and, in a few months' time, resubmit your request. Thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia in this capacity! Redux 13:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm so sorry it didn't go as we hoped, it's all my fault, I shouldn't have pressed you to accept the RfA, but I couldn't immagine what abstruse points would have been made by a considerable number of those that opposed :-( One thing is sure, I've never pass a RfA if I held it now, as they would have cut me down with stories about "low edit summary" and "he doesn't participate enough to VfD". What you should keep in mind is how close you came, and all the support you gathered. Oh, and I've read your Egyptian Invasion of Mani; another fantastic article! Ciao,--Aldux 18:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Commisarations Kyriakos. I'm sure you'll pass next time. I doubt that they would look to see if the token XfD edits are even meaningful in anyway. You're a great contributor. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 22:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Your edits to User_talk:76.190.75.31
Hi, Just FYI the subst template you added at this talk page somehow ended up with an unended HTML comment. This meant your ~~~~ didn't work, same as for their subsequent block message! Anyway I fixed it and used Template:Unsigned2 to sign your edit. Mark Hurd 15:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you.--Yannismarou 15:33, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Some important things to look at
Here. ;-) Kirill Lokshin 02:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- Ah, no problem; just wanted to make sure the things weren't getting lost in your watchlist (as tends to happen to me). :-) Kirill Lokshin 03:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Maniots
Hello adelphe. Yes, I too am ecstatic to see the Maniots article finally reach GA status. It took some pushing, but it was worth the effort. As for your request to make the Maniots article reach FA status, I'd be more than honored to help you. I believe that before we set out respective goals towards making the Maniots a featured article, we should take concrete steps to first ensure that the article first reaches A status. With that base in mind, we can then work to truly crafting an article that all other encyclopedias will envy.
To the best of my ability, I have been monitoring our behavioral dynamics. They are as follows:
- 1) Deucalionite: Creates article.
- 2) Kyriakos: Expands article.
- 3) Deucalionite: Edits article.
- 4) Kyriakos: Edits article.
- 5) Deucalionite: Polishes article.
- 6) Kyriakos: Polishes article.
- 7) End Result: Article acquires better rating.
Notice the pattern? Of course, there is always the reverse to look forward to:
- 1) Kyriakos: Creates article.
- 2) Deucalionite: Expands article.
- 3) Kyriakos: Edits article.
- 4) Deucalionite: Edits article.
- 5) Kyriakos: Polishes article.
- 6) Deucalionite: Polishes article.
- 7) End result: Article acquires better rating.
Overall, our respective abilities are compatible and also reflect our respective interests in ensuring that Greek historical articles are accurate and comprehensive. Of course, I will honestly tell you what I can and cannot do before we decide to expand further the Maniots article and refine it to a significant degree. I recommend that we conduct a simple "abilities assessment" in order to ensure how we can help each other.
If you wish to continue this conversation or comment on what has been said so far, then feel free to leave a message. Take care adelphe and I am very proud of you for all of your contributions. Thank you for giving the Maniots greater meaning in Wikipedia. Later. Deucalionite 14:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
- P.S. If I had my coat-of-arms, I'd pin one on you right now. You did an excellent job. Deucalionite 14:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Admin vote
Thank you for the support in my RfA. I don't think it's going to pass, but I appreciate the vote of confidence and kind words. Cla68 08:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Invitation to participate in an A-Class review of EirÃkr Hákonarson
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Athens, history of a major power in ancient Greece
Athens, history of a major power in ancient Greece is a potential wikireader I do have in mind. Major issues are fairly well covered with FAs. In my opinion, especially the editors from Pericles and Alcibiades are capabale of extraordinary works and with their help we could create an excellent wikireader. I already discussed the idea with Yannismarou. He is supportive, but lacks time to do the whole task. Could you help to set up the project. I support the organization as far as you think it necessary. Wandalstouring 10:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- A wikireader is complete book or a collection of essays that do have a common theme. They are created from the material we do have in article form.
- In this case I suggest to create an overview of the history using chapters. These chapters do essentially contain articles or material from articles. Intermissions such as short biographies(the parts that are not part of the main text) or essays on different additional aspects can be inserted into the main body. Wandalstouring 10:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- Create an overview about all issues the reader should cover.
- Think about people who could help with the project and contact them. Wandalstouring 11:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's OK as long as the Persian Wars do start with the Ionian Revolt. Wandalstouring 11:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with you. Wandalstouring 11:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Rating for Spanish conquest of Mexico
Back in February, you demoted the article from "B" to "Start". Can you explain why you did that and what you think needs to be improved for it to merit a "B" rating?
Thanx.
Richard âThe preceding unsigned comment was added by Richardshusr (talk ⢠contribs) 00:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC).
GA Review
Dear Kyriakos,
It would be more than welcome - if you could find some time in order to review the Ante StarÄeviÄ biography - which I nominated as a GA.
Best regards,
--BarryMar 12:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
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Thank you.--Yannismarou 19:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
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re: wikireader
looks good so far. I had only a quick glance. tell me if i can help you with research on specific subjects (I have a university library at hand). Wandalstouring 12:33, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
contact
Thanks for the note. Yes, I'm willing to be the contact. Keep in touch. semper fictilis 15:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks
Where do I make my acceptance speech? ;-) semper fictilis 15:26, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
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Finnish-Novgorodian wars
Thanks for passing Finnish-Novgorodian wars for GA! --Drieakko 03:54, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Galatian War, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. If you plan to expand the article, you can request that administrators wait a while for you to add contextual material. To do this, affix the template {{hangon}} to the page and state your intention on the article's talk page. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Corvus cornix 01:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've removed the tag for now and just put expand. It'll need content quickly or else it'll probably get prodded or tagged again. -WarthogDemon 01:21, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- Nice expansion. :) Corvus cornix 18:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
No Problem
With new pages constantly being created on Wikipedia, there's always the chance a perfectly legit article will get mistaken as criteria for deletion. Happy to help you out. Wouldn't be the first time I saved an article. Happy editing. :) -WarthogDemon 01:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Vulso's campaign against the Gauls
Also, the links to Livy in the Nabis article don't work either now. It seems that the url for all the references is no longer http://mcadams.psc.-etc., but -posc-. Thus Vulso's triumph is at http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/txt/ah/Livy/Livy39.html, and one only has to change 39 to 38 to make it work. I hope this helps. Obviously we need to find something a little more stable for all these refs. semper fictilis 14:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
July 2007 GAC backlog elimination drive
A new elimination drive of the backlog at Wikipedia:Good article candidates will take place from the month of July through August 12, 2007. There are currently about 130 articles that need to be reviewed right now. If you are interested in helping with the drive, then please visit Wikipedia:Good article candidates backlog elimination drive and record the articles that you have reviewed. Awards will be given based on the number of reviews completed. Since the potential amount of reviewers may significantly increase, please make sure to add :{{GAReview}} underneath the article you are reviewing to ensure that only one person is reviewing each article. Additionally, the GA criteria may have been modified since your last review, so look over the criteria again to help you to determine if a candidate is GA-worthy. If you have any questions about this drive or the review process, leave a message on the drive's talk page. Please help to eradicate the backlog to cut down on the waiting time for articles to be reviewed.
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Re: Galatian War
Hello Kyriakos, indeed it has been a while old friend. It would be a pleasure of mine to look over the article, I already took a look at it and I must say it had impressive content and organization, you certainly worked hard on it. I'll be reading it over in these next few days and begin fixing what I can. Perhaps we may talk a little through its history and discussion pages. See you there.--Arsenous Commodore 06:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
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Hello. I am currently trying to contribute to a battle in respect to giving a reason why a Viking force had to withdraw from a native attack, which I think was instrumental to the article itself and since the person in question received her place in history for that act. Its my understanding that Wikipedia is meant for contributions, but the people at that region see fit to leave the situation vague. They have told me that I cannot simply copy and past from references and, in short order, I re-wrote the small addition in my own words. I don't see what the problem here is, however, they simply revert my edits and give me vague conclusion to why they have done so. The site is intended to be used for non-commercial reproduction so we have no problems in copyright infringement. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. InternetHero 23:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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