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Tech News: 2022-26

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Recent changes

• Wikimedia Enterprise API service now has self-service accounts with free on-demand requests and monthly snapshots (API documentation). Community access via database dumps & Wikimedia Cloud Services continues.
• All Wikimedia wikis can now use Wikidata Lexemes in Lua after creating local modules and templates. Discussions are welcome on the project talk page.

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 June. It will be on all wikis from 30 June (calendar).
• Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 28 June at 06:00 UTC (targeted wikis). [1]
• Some global and cross-wiki services will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 30 June at 06:00 UTC. This will impact ContentTranslation, Echo, StructuredDiscussions, Growth experiments and a few more services. [2]
• Users will be able to sort columns within sortable tables in the mobile skin. [3]

Future meetings

• The next open meeting with the Web team about Vector (2022) will take place tomorrow (28 June). The following meetings will take place on 12 July and 26 July.

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20:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Commenting in archives

Please do not do this. The VPT archives contain many posts giving advice on how to perform certain tasks, and several of these worked perfectly well at the time that they were discussed, but no longer function in the same way - or even at all. We do not post additional comments in the archives, instead, we either (i) ignore it, because it's old and outdated; (ii) locate any non-archived page (perhaps a Help: page) where the non-functioning method is still presented as current advice, and amend that; or (iii) raise a discussion on a current talk page. In this case, you could add a sentence or two to Template:Days since/doc, or post your concerns at Template talk:Days since. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:11, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

@Redrose64: The documentation at the template explains this fine; I was the one who made the change. The way the template was set up previously was redundant with {{Time ago}} and it was totally unused (transcluded on only two mainspace pages, and its total transclusion count across all of en.wp was less than 25). I understand that the readership of VPT threads from 2013 is slim, but such discussions are often important when trying to maintain or upgrade templates (I often consult very old archives when doing so). At any rate it's not that big of a deal, but I think that removing the comment does increase the difficulty of template maintenance (if only by a little): someone trying to figure out the template now has to go into decade-old diffs to figure out why completely contradictory statements are being made about it in different discussions. jp×g 22:19, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Many templates have had their functionality changed since they were first transcluded. If we went around archive pages posting comments to the effect that the template no longer functions as it once did, we'd soon have archive pages that were not archives at all but might as well be live discussion pages. That is not what archives are for. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:50, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of JPxG/Alexander Hart

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on JPxG/Alexander Hart requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Speedy deletion nomination of JPxG/Allylurea

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on JPxG/Allylurea requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Speedy deletion nomination of JPxG/Bi-LSTM

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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on JPxG/Bi-LSTM requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. —{Canucklehead} 23:50, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

@Canucklehead: What are you doing? These are userspace drafts. Do not nominate these for deletion. jp×g 23:51, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

It looks like you put them in mainspace by mistake. —{Canucklehead} 23:52, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

@Canucklehead: Oh, I see. Yes, I seem to have done a little AWB fuckup there -- go ahead and delete those, lol. jp×g 23:53, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

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Ronaldinho in fiction

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jun/10/barcelona-dreaming-by-rupert-thomson-review-heartbreak-and-hope-in-the-city?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twitstorm (talk • contribs) 22:55, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

@Twitstorm: If you've got a source for the claim in the article, feel free to add it with ref tags (bare URLs are fine and can be converted to formatted citations by automatic tools). jp×g 00:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

LGBT rights in Singapore

Hi JPxG. You made a mistake in reverting me on this article. Lmharding is problematic editor that has had issues with multiple users now (look at their talk page) and has been attempting to edit war on this article (and among many others) to push a WP:POV. Thanks. Pauline Muley (talk) 03:10, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

There was no mistake, Paula is pushing his/her own POF editing and WP:SYTH creating fictional conclusions on sources that don't say anything he/she claims. Additionally, he/she does not respond in the talk page about Singapore instead 3RR edit warring which I tell I'm reverting and that she must get consensus from the community before reading this edits as none of them make any sense and are way far leaps outside what any of the sources she's adding are saying. Addiionally, he/she is a new editor trying to come in like some kind of pretend know it all while making the worst edits imaginable. Disregard this user and their false personal attacks. Lmharding (talk) 05:41, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't know exactly what is going on here, but it seems to be beyond the remit of recent-changes patrol. I would recommend starting a WP:RFC on the talk page about the content dispute, or seeking another method of dispute resolution. jp×g 23:58, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Trolling ?

Hello I removed Dominic Raab from a list of head of state as he never was the head of state of Great Britain. I explained it to you, you don't even read. Honestly check yourself, and don't add content just because you think it is fun. Bageralg (talk) 10:34, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@Bageralg: As far as I can tell, an acting Prime Minister is still a head of state. jp×g 23:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Hadad edits.

I am the author of the same edit I was trying to delete so I tried to delete it because I wrote it. Essentially I was having second thoughts on the information because although the linking between Horus and Hadad seems strong according to the sources, I was also having second thoughts exploring the Hadad-Set route of information because the identification of both gods is ambiguous. It could be that the syncretism of Seth with Hadad was a mistake and a I gave enough reasoning for it since ancient people also syncretized Horus with Seth as I wrote in my edits, but I would have liked to review the information a little bit more before posting it. My intentions were to delete it momentarily and then re-upload it again if I did a second check and confirmed once again. But if you like the information I provided and would like to keep it up, I can only feel grateful for the appreciation that you are showing towards my edits, and would feel no problems keeping it up regardless. Like I said the linking between Horus and Hadad pretty strong but I was simply having second thoughts just in case. Thank you for your time. 2001:B07:AAC:403D:B868:C186:F40C:83BD (talk) 22:08, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

I’m sorry I made a typo in the previous topic. I meant to say the ancients also syncretized Horus with HADAD, not Seth, so the sentence where I say that “Horus” was “syncretized with Seth” is a typing error and I meant to say that “Horus was syncretized with Hadad”. My apologies. 2001:B07:AAC:403D:B868:C186:F40C:83BD (talk) 22:13, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@2001:B07:AAC:403D:B868:C186:F40C:83BD: That's all fine -- the reason I reverted was because your edit was removing a substantial amount of cited content. I don't know whether this was on purpose or not, but if you're just trying to add/edit something, it should be fine if you do so while preserving the existing article. jp×g 23:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Honeycomb edit

I just deleted some info from the page about honeycombs. In the summary at the top of the page, someone had inserted some unrelated material of how to generate honeycomb-like structures with Matlab. This seems to be some sort of vandalism or self-promotion, so I deleted it. 71.204.170.25 (talk) 22:46, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

@71.204.170.25:: It might not have been put in an appropriate place, but wouldn't it have been better to simply move that information further down in the article? jp×g 23:49, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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Under my thumb edits

Hi! My edits were reverted due to no source being cited however I was editing a comment that “mostly feminists” are offended by lyrics to “Under the thumb”. Obviously most people are offended by these lyrics and it isn’t mostly feminists. It’s in fact, pretty sexist to make that claim.

If there is a source that supports the current “mostly feminists” comment then I would love to see it. Otherwise I think my edit is 100% reasonable without a source.

Thank you! 138.207.151.160 (talk) 21:23, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Yes, this is probably true, however, if you do not have a reliable source to support this claim, then it's just your opinion and an encyclopedia does not use personal opinions. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 21:51, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Ven Currency Edits - please undo your revert

Hi JPxG, I just had the following message from you -

"Hello, I'm JPxG. I noticed that in this edit to Ven (currency), you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. jp×g 21:11, 3 July 2022 (UTC)"

Thank you for getting in touch. I provided a summary for both, please can you elaborate on what information is needed or otherwise undo your revert? It might be because it was an Android edit? The article I was working on contains several claims that are not possible to verify, even when checking the original citations. One example is the thomson reuters claim which is listed on the hubculture website, but not anywhere on thomson reuters- See citation 8 for the section that was removed (https://hubculture.com/hubs/237/news/581/). A citation from the company that owns the product isn't neutral or verifiable

If you have some time - I'd love your help cleaning up the article - it reads like an advertisement Billitt (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

@Billitt: I hadn't realized that hubculture.com was run by the company responsible for the currency -- in that case, it is right to have removed it, and your revision should stand; I've removed the warning from your talk page. jp×g 23:48, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

1920 land boom in Florida

Hello I added sources as requested. Seems like you do quite a lot. Thanks for checking in. The-OG-Truth (talk) 22:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC) /The-OG-Truth

@The-OG-Truth: Excellent -- good job, especially for someone that new to editing. It looks good! :) jp×g 23:47, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. I read your stuff. I followed your directions. I appreciate your help and work for the public.  :) The-OG-Truth (talk) 23:53, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Maggie Chapman

Hello there! I removed some sentences from Maggie Chapman's page because they weren't neutral or on-topic: 1. Their focus was not on the subject of the article but on someone else 2. That someone is not notable enough to have a wikipedia page 3. It unfairly summarises what they said, in breach of NPOV 4. The BLP has a presumption in favour of privacy: whether someone has their gender recognised is a private matter, and one that has no bearing on Maggie Chapman 5. Although the text had been added because it was 'notable for an MSP to say this', Chapman's views were neither quoted nor summarised (I'm sorry I don't know how to sign this. 22:25, 3 July 2022 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.242.227.217 (talk)

@90.242.227.217:: Signing comments can be done by adding four tildes (~~~~) at the end of a comment. Anyway, with respect to the edit, it seems I may have the sentence in question (it was "Wadhwa had said", not "Chapman had said" as I had thought initially). At any rate, I think that her defense of the person in question should keep the original citations, even if the more detailed sentence is inappropriate to the article, otherwise it is just dangling there not cited to anything. jp×g 23:45, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

University of Pennsylvania edits

Hi @JPxG,

I thought I had explained why the section was edited. It was because the information (the endowment) had already been repeated elsewhere. To better mimic other universities, the endowment is only referenced in the box to the right. UPenn's page had it referenced in the box and within the opening paragraphs. Wozal (talk) 00:18, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Infoboxes#Purpose, the general idea of infoboxes is to provide easy-to-read information related to the contents of the page, but not necessarily replace it. In some cases (like chemical compounds, for example) an infobox can contain such absurd amounts of information that this is implausible, but in general, it is better to have something from an infobox backed up by the contents of an article. jp×g 00:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 July. It will be on all wikis from 7 July (calendar).
• Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 5 July at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on 7 July at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
• The Beta Feature for DiscussionTools will be updated throughout July. Discussions will look different. You can see some of the proposed changes.
• This change only affects pages in the main namespace in Wikisource. The Javascript config variable proofreadpage_source_href will be removed from mw.config and be replaced with the variable prpSourceIndexPage. [4]

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19:30, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-28

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Recent changes

• In the Vector 2022 skin, the page title is now displayed above the tabs such as Discussion, Read, Edit, View history, or More. Learn more. [5]
• It is now possible to easily view most of the configuration settings that apply to just one wiki, and to compare settings between two wikis if those settings are different. For example: Japanese Wiktionary settings, or settings that are different between the Spanish and Esperanto Wikipedias. Local communities may want to discuss and propose changes to their local settings. Details about each of the named settings can be found by searching MediaWiki.org. [6]
• The Anti-Harassment Tools team recently deployed the IP Info Feature as a Beta Feature at all wikis. This feature allows abuse fighters to access information about IP addresses. Please check our update on how to find and use the tool. Please share your feedback using a link you will be given within the tool itself.

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
• Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on 12 July at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

Future changes

• The Beta Feature for DiscussionTools will be updated throughout July. Discussions will look different. You can see some of the proposed changes.

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19:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Thank you ❤️ I really like to join you ❤️ 41.116.251.149 (talk) 22:44, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-29

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Problems

• The feature on mobile web for Nearby Pages was missing last week. It will be fixed this week. [7]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 July. It will be on all wikis from 21 July (calendar).

Future changes

• The Technical Decision Forum is seeking community representatives. You can apply on wiki or by emailing TDFSupport@wikimedia.org before 12 August.

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22:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

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Script breaking

Hi JPxG, XFDcloser seems to be breaking a lot with a few recent edits you've made and I have no idea why. See diffs [8][9][10] and my edit history. DelSort seems to be weird today too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Justiyaya 15:43, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

@Justiyaya: I messed those up, and I have an idea on how it happened. I'll post a little more detail when I figure it out (and can fix the rest myself as well). jp×g 15:58, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Ah okay, I've got all the pages in Category:AfD debates (Not yet sorted) but not much else. good luck figuring it out :D Justiyaya 16:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

If you haven't already I've looked at your AFD closes since July 21 and all seem to have no issue or is fixed. Justiyaya 18:43, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I think I might know why these are messed up. I am trying to work through a list of old orphaned AfDs, and a lot of them don't have proper formatting (that AfD, for example, originally looked like this). So I have been copying the same few lines of text into them, which is as follows:

• {{REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE WHEN CLOSING THIS AFD|}}
• ===[[:{{subst:SUBPAGENAME}}]]===
• <noinclude>{{AFD help}}</noinclude>
• :{{la|1={{subst:SUBPAGENAME}}}} – ([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/{{subst:SUBPAGENAME}}|View AfD]]
• :({{Find sources AFD|title={{subst:SUBPAGENAME}}}})

I think the reason it's messing up is because I don't have a parameter in {{REMOVE THIS TEMPLATE WHEN CLOSING THIS AFD}}, so XFDCloser doesn't know what to do with them, and it should be |U or whatever in the future. I guess I will give it a shot and see if it works. Thanks for pointing it out! jp×g 20:49, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeah think that probably is the case and I think that probably explains delsort being weird too :D Justiyaya 02:16, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Closed as Anagnorisis

I've been watching Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Wetzel (historian) for years. I have no idea why. Rest assured, your work on this encycylopedia is never in vain and the efforts you make are a distinct credit to you. Thank you for all you do here. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

@Chris troutman: Well, I'll be darned!!! That was about the last thing I expected. Oh well -- I guess I can use the company back there :) jp×g 04:11, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

What are the odds that I'd be looking at my watchlist, having consumed several ounces of Jameson, at the very moment you thought you made an edit no one would ever see? I welcome your company, we few, we happy few... Chris Troutman (talk) 04:16, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Geostubs.....

Interesting geostub argument from ages past at User talk:Rambot/Delete. jp×g 08:26, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Another cool old thing at Wikipedia:AFD 100 days. jp×g 10:39, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Michael Dorfman AFD

I am not sure what happened ten years ago but its exact same nomination like first one with date three days before the first so I think its some kind of glitch and should be closed Shrike (talk) 11:18, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-30

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Recent changes

• The www.wikibooks.org and www.wikiquote.org portal pages now use an automated update system. Other project portals will be updated over the next few months. [11]

Problems

• Last week, some wikis were in read-only mode for a few minutes because of an emergency switch of their main database (targeted wikis). [12]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 July. It will be on all wikis from 28 July (calendar).
• The external link icon will change slightly in the skins Vector legacy and Vector 2022. The new icon uses simpler shapes to be more recognizable on low-fidelity screens. [13]
• Administrators will now see buttons on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. [14]

Future meetings

• The next open meeting with the Web team about Vector (2022) will take place tomorrow (26 July).

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19:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Deletion report

I've copyedited this, but am hesitating from giving the tick over one point: Should we link the names of the users mentioned in the summaries? On the one hand, wikilinking them makes it easier to see who said things. On the other hand, wikilinking them makes it really easy to harass them over their arguments in discussions we're drawing more attention to. Thoughts? Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8% of all FPs} 22:35, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden: It's an issue worth thinking about. In previous deletion reports, my philosophy has basically been this: the nominator and the closer are usually worthy of mention, and individual participants might be, if they're influential to the discussion. But I try not to shit on people with the summaries, and to avoid taking a side on who was right or wrong. I think if it's done this way, it is fine to mention people, although personally I rarely bother linking to their userpages, since the way someone !voted on a single AfD is rarely relevant to who they are as an editor. I will often link to the closers, though, especially if it is a difficult close (like the famous "mass killings under communism" one, whose close note was essentially a whole-ass essay, and whose authors deserved some recognition). jp×g 23:00, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Makes sense. If it's not standard then... Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8% of all FPs} 23:30, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

A goat for you!

I love this.

🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 01:49, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/From the team

I've tried to push this into a publishable state with some snarky commentary and providing a missing statement. Feel free to change anything I wrote - trying for snarky, if it went beyond that into mean, I sincerely apologise. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8% of all FPs} 03:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

@Adam Cuerden: It's okay. I am not sure what I want to do with this anyway -- me and EP were talking about it earlier today. I think that it probably needs to be two different pieces (one of them being a very sober-minded and official explanation of the lead images and the GPT-3 articles, the second of them being kind of a more detailed dive into how the process worked and etc etc). Probably, the part where I have an extended go-off about the ins and outs of using GPT-3 to write Signpost features doesn't belong in a "from the team". I'll have to get around to it later -- I appreciate your edits :) jp×g 03:16, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough! I do have a little experience with forcing things to flow together, so thought I might as well have a go. By the way, I don't suppose you've had a look at the Humour section I did? ...It amuses me far too much in its awfulness. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8% of all FPs} 03:31, 29 July 2022 (UTC)