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You really do seem to be getting it, excellent! I hope you stay and edit more stuff once the whole Mental Health page gets all fixed up. One thing you can do is add it to your watch list, so changes are immediately evident to you. I have about 500 (!) articles on my watch list right now. Dbrodbeck (talk) 11:22, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help. I have set up a watchlist!... JCJC777 (talk) 14:04, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Mental Health edits

Hi. I have reverted the edits because the sourcing does not meet WP:MEDRS. Please discuss the changes at the talk page. (Oh, and if another user reverts your edits, please do not re add them without first discussing the changes). I assume you are also the IP user from before right? Dbrodbeck (talk) 23:08, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

In response to your feedback

You're welcome. And remember the five pillars :).

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Coffee

Thanks for trying to improve the Coffee article, but if you read the section Health and pharmacology you'll see that the edit you were making about psychological effects of caffeine is already discussed and sourced to http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12204388

I should also mention that Wikipedia is not a reliable source, so you must not use a Wikipedia article to support information that you are adding to another article. I see that you've added essentially the same information twice now. If you find your edits reverted, please look at the edit summaries as they may give you some idea of why that happened. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 20:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

RexxS thanks for your help. JCJC777

Your recent edits

I have removed edit(s) you made here. Some or all of the content appears to be copy and pasted from here. Please remember, you must write in your own words. We cannot copy and paste from other websites. Please provide the sources and restore the content which I removed, ensuring that it is written in your own words.

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More

I see lots more copy paste in your edits. Please go through them and either remove them or rewrite them in your own words. Thank you, and happy editing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:07, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Reference titles

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References

Thank you for your contributions! Jim1138 (talk) 18:42, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Citation suggestion

Thank you for your contributions to the caffeine article. If you haven't seen this yet, please check out User:Diberri's Wikipedia template filling tool (instructions). Given a PubMed ID, one can quickly produce a full citation that can be copied and pasted into a Wikipedia article. This tool can save you a lot of work and ensure that the citations are displayed in a consistent manner. Also most of the citation that you supplied were to primary sources. Per WP:MEDRS, I have removed these while retaining the secondary sources that you have added. Cheers. Boghog (talk) 13:45, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Please take the time to fill out references in a template. By being lazy, you force other editors to finish your work. Another easy-to-use tool is Citer here. --Zefr (talk) 17:16, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

You are a serial offender of being lazy, as on your reference edits without using Citer at Kefir. This is a nuisance and bad conduct. Slow down and make an effort to be complete by using Citer to fill out source information! --Zefr (talk) 15:18, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Using articles as sources

Hi JCJC777! As you probably have noticed, I removed your references to other Wikipedia articles. Please read: Primary, secondary and tertiary sources. It says "Wikipedia articles (or Wikipedia mirrors) are not reliable sources for any purpose." Thank you! Lova Falk talk 14:37, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

[1] is a useful site for references. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 23:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Good job with the sources! Lova Falk talk 09:52, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Lova thanks for your help. JCJC777

"Empty" sections

Hello and thanks for your interest in improving Wikipedia. I have a tip. If you're going to start a prevention section effectively just to say one is missing, consider creating a blank section and using {{empty section}}. It looks like this:

Your current wording of "prevention is getting more attention" or whatever sounds a bit vague and isn't being supported by a reliable medical source specific to the disease/disorder. I hope this helps. Thanks again for your interest. Biosthmors (talk) 17:34, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Hmmmm..... see here. Please don't do silly things like that again. =) Is there something I could say to help you understand how to edit here? Biosthmors (talk) 17:44, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

And don't worry too much, I do silly things myself around here from time to time too! Biosthmors (talk) 17:51, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi guys thanks for your help. I am trying to refer sufferers of schizophrenia etc to the general mental disorder prevention section - any suggestions? P.s. Is there an issue with quoting the recent Schizophrenia Commission? Yours in ignorance and hopefulness (JCJC777 (talk) 17:54, 20 November 2012 (UTC))

There might not be! My ignorance has thus been proclaimed. =) Add a quote to the existing section? Then we'll see if we like it! Biosthmors (talk) 17:59, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm also not sure on the wisdom of linking readers of the prevention of schizophrenia section over to mental disorders prevention section. If reliable sources state something important about schizophrenia prevention, can't we just include those facts as prose and not bother with the link? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 18:02, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

You're probably right. The problem is that diagnosis terms for mental health are actually vague and much argued over. I wanted to give sufferers thus labelled an idea of the bigger mental health prevention picture. Let me have a think. Thanks again (JCJC777 (talk) 18:05, 20 November 2012 (UTC))

Schizophrenia

Hi James I saw you reversed my edit on Schizophrenia prevention/early intervention - please could you explain your thinking? Isn't it right and helpful to readers to separate (a) content on real prevention from (b) content on early intervention once the disorder is already partly visible? Thanks and best wishes (JCJC777 (talk) 07:22, 21 November 2012 (UTC))

Sure this text does not deal with prevention itself but discusses research. "The 2012 UK Schizophrenia Commission called for more prevention research; " We should also present the conclusions first. Thus disagree with the reordering. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:29, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

A few things

• Please use high quality references per WP:MEDRS such as review articles or major textbooks. Note that review articles are NOT the same as peer reviewed articles. A good place to find medical sources is TRIP database
• Please format references properly. It helps out a lot.

Sorry, I am just so short of time; I figure people read Wiki on the internet; they can easily click through to read reference details themselves; Wiki could save contributors so much time by saying this is fine. (JCJC777 (talk) 10:23, 22 November 2012 (UTC))

Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 23:57, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Secondary sources are required for most major topics per WP:MEDRS. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:04, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

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Refs

You have been adding this statement unrefenced "Focus is increasing on prevention of mental disorders" I have found a secondary source that supports it for anxiety disorders.

• Bienvenu, OJ (2007 Dec). "Prevention of anxiety disorders". International review of psychiatry (Abingdon, England). 19 (6): 647–54. PMID 18092242. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 14:09, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks James, very helpful. Thanks again for all your help. We're helping people here, giving them signposts to find hope and ways forward, and helping to reduce future human suffering (JCJC777 (talk) 15:48, 22 November 2012 (UTC))

Could you please properly format your references? There is a tool in the top of the edit book where all you need to enter is the PMID and it will fill in the rest.

Also please only use secondary sources. Case studies are not sufficient. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Better refs

Hi James thanks, am pressed now but will try to do so. Am aware I am prehistoric in terms of sophistication. Will look up that tool. Thanks (JCJC777 (talk) 18:00, 5 December 2012 (UTC))

We have instructions here Wikipedia:MEDHOW It is supper easy. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 19:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Please format your references

Using the cite template. There is a tool in the edit box and explanations on how to use it here WP:MEDHOW. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 12:55, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Rugby union addition

Hi JCJC777, I reverted your recent addition to the rugby union article. Please don't take offence as it is an intertesting stat, but it is probably better appearing in the 'History of rugby union' article under a section based on the development of the game. Also the fact is a bit trivial for the article, as we could probably add a 101 interesting facts about players over the years but they would just be that, interesting facts, it needs a narrative. Thirdly the statement isn't true as it is taken from an analysis of only the England players, so we could only state that England players have become larger, not rugby players. Fourth, Western people have all become taller and heavier since the 1960s, so that needs to be factored into the writer's analyis too, which it isn't. Hope that explains my reasoning. Cheers, FruitMonkey (talk) 12:25, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

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Copy and paste

Please do not copy and paste sentences but rather paraphrase content per this edit here [2] Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:25, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

I do not understand why you do not format references similar to the rest of the text? I have gone and done so yet you revert my changes? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

No worries. Expect as much :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 17:44, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Multiple sclerosis

I have reverted twice your addition to the article. Please do not re-add it. The investigation on modafinil is interesting but too preliminary and specific to mention it in the main article, since it is only primary preliminary research. Moreover off-label and alternative are not the same, since in off-label it is usually a phsysician who recommends the use of a product based on his experience and not so much on evidence. In this sense the approapiate place for this kind of research would be the "associated symptoms" in the treatment section, and to include it there we would need a secondary source in a peer-reviewed journal (and even then we would need to discuss if it is better to include it here or in "treatment of multiple sclerosis" article, where I have included a summarized version of your edit.)

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I left you a comment there about meta-planning. Regards, – SJ + 20:56, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Mental disorder

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You did add a link! Which I did not check. My apology. I assumed that it was a link such as you might link some somewhat irrelevant item. 20 links are quite a few. Are there any that specificlly discuss cash transfer programmes for mental disorders?

I see that "programme" and "program" are used interchangeably. That probably should be cleaned up- maybe in the future... BTW: you did duplicate "Some countries run conditional cash transfer welfare programmes...". I removed the second one. Again, my apology. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 20:05, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

I think none of the refs apply to mental health programs; shall I take them all out? JCJC777

Twenty refs for one sentence is probably a bit much... Given the link, (my bad) all could be removed. Do you know of any places that use conditional cash transfers for mental health? I know a few people that could use such a program. Being CEOs and upper management, maybe conditional stock options... Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 01:33, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

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Were you going to provide a ref for "Many causes of psychosis are also causes of schizophrenia."? Lots of drugs cause acute psychosis but do not really cause schizophrenia. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:17, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Alex I don't have the resources to do this; but I know you love wiki, and grasp the point that the current 'research in meditation' page has been hijacked by some mindfulness 'cuckoos in the nest'. Go well, JCJC777

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Thanks Jytdog. I'm not being difficult; my theory is (1) that readers are quite happy with a bare URL for a reference; they are online and can easily click through to the URL and check it out for themselves, (i.e. I think wiki rules are wrong here) and (2) some wiki editors like converting bare URLs into 'correct' wiki format; they enjoy that tidying-up work. And I'm short of time and energy and bandwidth. But if you want to deprive readers of this content because you can't bear a bare URL, so be it. All best, JCJC777

There are two issues. I've removed content you've added b/c the source is not OK per WP:MEDRS. Please become familiar with it - if you don't understand it, please ask.

The other issue is bareURLs - I would not remove content on that basis alone. Please actually read WP:BAREURL. it is not a matter of being anal - bareURLs actually suck -and they do suck - for many reasons. Are you aware of the citation-creating tool in the edit window? if you enter the PMID it creates a full citation in seconds. Seconds. Jytdog (talk) 06:32, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Jytdog - ok, have read the bareURL piece; understand point about rotting refs. however my view still that surely that formatting bareURLs as refs can be automated by wiki. or done by another human ( surely we can split up the roles here; some adding raw content (me), some enjoying the formatting and correct-ifying of that raw content. we don't need one person to be able to do everything. ) danger of current system is that people like me just won't bother contributing new content (too hard)

"done by another human"... that is just .. meh. nobody here is your mom. really - there is a tool in the edit window - look up and you will see on the right where it says "cite". click it and new bar will appear and over on the left and there is a pulldown - select "cite journal", enter the PMID, click the little magnifying glass, and all the fields will autofill. easy peasy. I just want to be clear - i am not one of these stickers for reference citation style. I don't care how it is done - at all. but there should be the complete citation (author, publication, and especially date) so people can know if the ref is recent or old and from a decent source so they can look at that information and go find it whether they are on a computer or not. a bareurl requires a person to click it to learn the date and other info. And for biomedical journals, the PMID is essential - we can tell from the pubmed entry at a glance if it is a medrs source or not. Jytdog (talk) 07:34, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

For some people at some times, it is a truly marginal call as to whether they bother to add content to wiki or not. Surely we should make it as easy and good a user experience as possible to do so - so we get the best, richest content in wiki. JCJC777

• the ref you added here is not even close to a MEDRS source. Jytdog (talk) 01:56, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks Tarl. This seems a worthwhile and important topic, but aware many changes may be needed. Best wishes, JCJC777

By the way, as for being semi-retired, I did seriously reduce my activity level, but it has crept back up. I'm trying to keep my watchlist under 1000 pages. Tarl N. (discuss) 16:03, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	For work on Problem of why there is anything at all. Hyperbolick (talk) 14:18, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

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Specifically blogs are not suitable generally. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:14, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

thanks for the thanks

hi uk born male. forget about the docjames stuff argh i almost stopped editing medical stuff. are you from the north ? --Wuerzele (talk) 12:18, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

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Since it is about an issue within the Meditation article, I might as well ask here, JCJC777: what references are you trying to invoke with <ref name="Van_Dam_2018"/><ref name=Stetka2017/>, which you added in this edit on 8 June 2018? Since that edit, both citations have remained broken in the article. Did you forget to add the sources? —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 15:38, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

apologies, copied the ref from the "research on meditation" article; did not realise it did not work here . JCJC777 (talk) 19:07, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

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thanks. fair criticism. hopefully others will add more content here. JCJC777

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thanks, you're right, my apologies, (I was hoping others might build out the content) JCJC777 (talk) 04:10, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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thanks, you're right, my apologies, (I was hoping others might build out the content) JCJC777 (talk) 04:09, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

This edit also copied directly from the source. It's quite simple - never copy and paste. SmartSE (talk) 10:23, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

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I have now reverted three similar additions from you to Existential risk from artificial general intelligence and Artificial general intelligence. The notion of an AI independently setting its own goals needs clear discussion and real support from sources, which you have not been providing. WeyerStudentOfAgrippa (talk) 15:06, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Weyer. This topic seems a major gap in wiki discussion of AI currently. I was just hoping to stimulate a discussion and some authors to contribute good sources. I'll give up. Best JCJC777 (talk) 15:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hello, JCJC777 (and Ritchie333). I appreciate the willingness to continue contributing that you expressed at the ANI thread, and I responded there.[3]. As you know, the MS article is dated, and we do need all the good medical editors we can get. Seeing your request to Ritchie333 to lift your ban partial block, my recommendation is that you start at lower-pageview articles and have some suggestions for going forward. I hope you find this info helpful.

1. The most crucial is that you learn to paraphrase content in your own words, while also avoiding overquoting. Helpful reading is at WP:PARAPHRASE and at this Signpost oped.
2. Tne next most important step is to thoroughly read and digest WP:MEDRS to understand the distinction between primary, secondary and tertiary sources. We can’t use websites created by medical advocates to source most medical content, for example. This Signpost article is a bit dated, but gives a good overview. If you look at this source which you recently used, you will see that it says “Comparative study” above the title of the article. That is a primary source, and a very old one, so not really usable for anything. If that study was validated, important, and worth mentioning, it would be mentioned in a secondary review. You can contrast that with this article, where you see the words “Review” above the article title.
3. There is a very handy template in use at most (but not all) medical article talk pages that will help you make sure you are only using good WP:MEDRS sources, and avoiding primary sources. As an example, if you go to Talk:Multiple sclerosis, you will see that the second template on that page starts with Ideal sources for Wikipedia’s health content, and is followed by links that will lead you to free review articles from the past five years. (This is not to say that those are the only sources you can use, or that there are not other ways to find sources, but if you start out by sticking to those, you can be certain you will not be using primary or inferior sources like advocacy websites.) If you are editing an article that does not have that template on its talk page, you can easily add it by placing {{Reliable sources for medical articles}} at the top of the article talk page. (For example, I see that Talk:Alcoholic polyneuropathy already has one.)
4. Another thing is to learn how to set your filters on PubMed so that you will only access secondary reviews, and avoid case studies and primary sources. When you are accessing PubMed, scrolling down the left-hand side of the page, you will see where you can place checkmarks to restrict your search to meta-analysis, reviews and systematic reviews, and further down the page, you can restrict further to within the last five years (see WP:MEDDATE), or if that fails to produce anything, the last ten years.
5. Next, once you have restricted your sources to secondary reviews, if you have found those on Pubmed, you can take the PMID (PubMed ID) and plug it in to this tool, and get a full citation.
   So let’s use https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30467601/ (a secondary review and meta-analysis) as an example:

   That article is PMID 30467601

   You access https://citation-template-filling.toolforge.org/cgi-bin/index.cgi and type in 30467601

   The citation filling template returns {{cite journal |vauthors=Julian T, Glascow N, Syeed R, Zis P |title=Alcohol-related peripheral neuropathy: a systematic review and meta-analysis |journal=J Neurol |volume=266 |issue=12 |pages=2907–2919 |date=December 2019 |pmid=30467601 |pmc=6851213 |doi=10.1007/s00415-018-9123-1 |url=}}

   You just edit-copy, edit-paste that citation between the ref tags to get a fully formatted citation to a high quality source: Julian T, Glascow N, Syeed R, Zis P (December 2019). "Alcohol-related peripheral neuropathy: a systematic review and meta-analysis". J Neurol. 266 (12): 2907–2919. doi:10.1007/s00415-018-9123-1. PMC 6851213. PMID 30467601.

I know this is a lengthy start, but if you can focus on building these specific skills, you are much more likely to find that your edits will stick. Good luck going forward, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 10:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

thanks SandyGeorgia, appreciate you taking the time , and for the clarity of your guidance. ,JCJC777 (talk) 11:26, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

You’re welcome. I threaded your response above by adding one colon before it. Try to remember also to thread your responses on talk pages, and always to sign them (have a look here for a thorough explanation). Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

I think SandyGeorgia has given good advice here, but just for the record, you aren't banned from Multiple sclerosis, you're simply blocked, which means I (or any other administrator) can remove the block once we're satisfied there's not going to be any more disruption. Hopefully once you've digested the points above, we'll be in a position to do that. After all, you're not blocked from any other article. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:47, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Unexplained revert

Can you please explain this edit? You reverted the article to the 25 July 2020 version without a reasonable explanation. --Muhandes (talk) 17:07, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

JCJC777, like the poster above, I have noticed that most of your edits today are reverting bare URL sources, with an edit summary of "poorly formatted references". I am glad to see that you apologized,[4] but wanted to provide further information.

Poorly formatted references, in and of itself, is not a reason for reverting them. Some source is better than no source. (In the case of your medical edits, they were generally reverted because they were primary sources--not because they were bare URLs.) Many new editors do not know how to format citations, while an editor such as yourself who has been editing for almost ten years is assumed to have learned. Please read Wikipedia:Citing_sources.

This edit at Multiple sclerosis signs and symptoms, on the other hand, is a bigger problem, which gives me concern that you have not taken on board the commentary above. PMID 30692862 is a 2018 (recent) review, meaning that it complies with WP:MEDRS. PMID 32139797 is a primary study. You can tell that because not only is it not flagged as a review (as I explained to you above), but also because just by reading the abstract, you can see that it is a study as opposed to a secondary review of other studies. The abstract itself discusses that clearly. And yet, in that edit, you removed information cited to 30692862 ("in one 2018 review 75–87% of patients with MS reported fatigue, and two-thirds of these patients indicated fatigue as one of the worst three common symptoms they experienced") which was clearly indicated as a review, and replaced it with information cited to 32139797, the primary study ("Analysis of different dimensions of fatigue (physical, cognitive, and psychosocial) has found that MS fatigue is fairly consistent across dimensions.") SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:59, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Oops, apologies for sending the message above before I finished it. On the positive side, I am encouraged to see that you did properly format the citation! Could you please explain, here on your talk page (which I am following) if you are still confused about how to distinguish between primary and secondary sources, and why you removed a review to replace it with information from a primary study? I also suggest reverting that edit, as the text you removed was correctly cited text. @Ritchie333 and Dennis Brown: in case they have anything to add. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:03, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

• • • Looks like you have it handled Sandy. You have as much (or more) experience than Ritchie or I, you just never got the bit, so I trust your judgement to handle the situation. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:11, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

      Dennis Brown, JCJC777 apologized for reverting bare URLs at 17:11, I left the message above at 21:03, and yet we have this and this at 21:08. No response from JCJC777, this is looking POINTY, and I don't have the tools to do anything further. JCJC777, I have gone out on a limb for you; a response is needed here. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:16, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi Sandy, I did not think about proper sources at all; apologies if it looked that way. I'm just trying to clean out content that I added in the past that still has incorrect reference formatting (the huge majority has had formatting corrected by bots or other editors). Sorry I don't know what POINTY etc means. I'm just trying to clean up before heading off.JCJC777 (talk) 21:20, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

So you are saying that you are only reverting your own past insertions? That is a positive sign, but then perhaps you could explain in your edit summaries that these are self-reverts (something like "self revert of poorly formatted citations"). At Multiple sclerosis signs and symptoms, I have reverted all of your work (back to August 16), because I found not only primary sources, but also COPYVIO. I recognize that you added that content before the ANI, but all of the "Abnormal sensations" section was cut-and-paste, so the safest thing to do at this point is remove that entire series of edits. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

PS, you may also find WP:MEDMOS to contain a lot of information that is essential to understand when editing medical content. For example, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Medicine-related articles#Diseases or disorders or syndromes explains one way that medical content is often organized. Those are only suggestions (not obligatory), but when you encounter a well-developed article that already uses that organization, there is often little reason for changing it (as an example, adding a separate section at the bottom of the MS signs and symptoms article for "Abnormal sensations", when there was already a section where they were covered). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:46, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Tks. yes just reverting my own work. (p.s. I have found only very few copyright issues. Think those were out of character whilst grappling with some urgent health issues and fatigue. I don't there there are any further back, but I am checking.) JCJC777 (talk) 21:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Allright, that is good to hear. It would be helpful if you would make your edit summaries as clear as possible, so others will know. Also, your own talk page is a good place to practice correct threading of posts by using the formatting and threading information I linked you to earlier. When discussions get long or confusing, it is a better communication style that allows others to more easily follow conversations. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:39, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

JCJC777, continuing the discussion where you are self-reverting your poorly formatted citations, I fear you are going too far. As an example, at Novavax, last January, you inserted text cited to a reliable source (The New York Times is an acceptable source for history of a company), but you did not format the citation. But you did adequately paraphrase the content (there is no copyvio). Later, someone did format the citation, so the article ended up with a very good entry, well cited, no copyvio. So even though that is now good content, today, you reverted it with an edit summary "self revert of poorly formatted citations", even though it is no longer poorly formatted. Further, you removed a named ref, that is, a citation that was used elsewhere in the article, so a bot had to recover the citation. I am afraid you are going to start seeing a lot of complaints unless you slow down and rethink what actually needs to be reverted. What needs to be removed is anything that a) is not reliably sourced, or b) contains copyvio or cut-and-paste text. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:42, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

thanks Sandy. I've finished. If people want to put back content I've deleted it is easy for them to do do. Regards JCJC777 (talk) 23:16, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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Happiness article

The section and sentence you created at this article did not provide encyclopedic information. You said: The correlation of income levels with life satisfaction and current experience measures of happiness continues to be debated. That is useless content. You would do well to actually read review articles to provide the encyclopedia user with a conclusion.

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EMDR

JC, I appreciate your support on the talk page for EMDR, but you're going to have to become more familiar with what counts as a reliable source on Wikipedia if you're going to participate effectively, especially for medical topics.

The recommendations of big medical organizations are reliable sources here. Studies, and especially meta-analyses, are also reliable sources. Academic books usually are as well. Stuff like GPT-4 isn't, not even just for medical topics but anywhere on Wikipedia.

If you can find an academic book or study somewhere that directly calls EMDR not pseudoscientific (or equivalents such as "scientific", "evidence-based", etc) please mention it on the talk page and/or add it to the article. Loki (talk) 03:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Loki

thanks.

fully understand ref AI no value. I only put it up for interest - but that was a mistake as has just confused.

I am fully aware I am a kind of annoying primitive idiot ref sourcing and formatting, but generally have found that other kind wikieditors genuinely enjoy doing that key part of the work.

Anyway, this EMDR article is stuck in a really bad place. I'll just hope the system unblocks at some stage. JCJC777 (talk) 06:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Please do not remove large amounts of content from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing, without first considering the existing consensus and pursuing discussion on the talk page. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. That paragraph is well-sourced. And such actions should doubtless be discussed on the talk page. This out-and-out blanking in clear opposition to the consensus on that page is just disruptive and serves very little purpose towards achieving consensus. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 21:46, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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ok many thanks bon courage JCJC777 (talk) 11:18, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

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