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Carthaginian Territories

Adding a picture regarding the extent of Carthage's boundaries, photoshop by me. Fair image usage so please don't delete it.

Macedonian Sarissa phalangites phalanx vs Classical hoplite phalanx

Noted differences, deletion of the picture because it is a sarissa and not classical phalanx. If you want I can elaborate and provide better pictures...

Lorica Segmenta

Corrected, I've inputed my sources regarding the Trajan Columns and the rarity of the iron band armor until the 2nd century CE. If you wish, I'll link you to the site.

crossbow

Hi, could you name some sources for your edits in the crossbow article otherwise the information is not valid and can be deleted. Thank you. Wandalstouring 09:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Ballista is a form of catapult that shoots stone weights or balls. It does not shoot bolts. The "Roman ballista" or scorpion, is the variant that shoots bolts. Also, a catapult is not the same as a crossbow. Catapults/Ballistas use torsion in the animal sinews/ropes for energy, whereas a crossbow uses the tension in the arch of the frame for energy. Intranetusa (talk) 03:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to tell you, but literature has it that the scorpion is a ballista. You seem not familiar with wikipedia editing. Please answer at the bottom and not on the top of a talk page. Wandalstouring (talk) 14:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I said. I said "the scorpion is a variant of the ballista." The scorpion shoots bolts while the ballista shoots stones. A scorpion is a ballista, but a ballista is not always a scorpion. Intranetusa (talk) 09:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ballistae also shoot bolts(even large ones), sorry but saying they only shoot stones is wrong. Scorpio is just the smallest variant of a ballista and we can not be certain whether it didn't also shoot stones. Wandalstouring (talk) 10:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I should said 'mostly' shot stones. Most ballistas were for sieges (stones) and not anti-personnel (bolts). The especially large ballistas almost always shot stones. Intranetusa (talk) 08:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Translation of Li Bai's "Drinking Alone ..."

Hi. Thanks for your work on the Li Bai article. Both the first translation of "Drinking Alone," and also the one that you've added, need to have their sources indicated. I was just getting around to deleting the present translation in favor of one with a known translator and source. So I hope you will fill in your source, and then just delete the previous one. I'd left a note about this several months ago on the talk page, so I think it's fair to delete it.Easchiff 04:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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re: Treasure Ships

Hi, the info comes from Ray Huang's Macrohistory of China. On checking it up, it wasn't a mast, but the rudder. In the Chinese version, the sentences are on pp 185-186. He also mentions that the largest boats were 440 feet long and 186 feet wide, and the smaller ones were 370 feet long and 150 feet wide. He mentions that these giant ships are found in books but not in physical specimens.

IMO, Ray Huang is sufficiently established as an authority on Ming-dynasty China for referencing. But if you are planning to reference this, the (original) English version might be more suitable. Citation: China: A Macro History. Armonk, New York: M.E. Sharpe, 1988. 277 pp. ISBN 0-87332-452-8. --Sumple (Talk) 02:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Puddling (metallurgy)

While what you added about Chinese puddling may well be correct, the point at which you inserted a paragraph about it was inappropriate, coming as it did in the middle of something relating to a process of the English Industrial Revolution. Furthermore in an article where references are cited, you should be citing yours. All you need to do is edit the references section, following the style used. You are then entiteledd to remove Template:fact (talk · links · edit) from after what you wrote. If you cannot verify your statement, then it will have to be deleted. It would also be helpful to every one else if you could write a few words about who you are on your user page. Peterkingiron 17:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What you put referred to an ancient Chinese process of puddling. What you wrote now appears as a spearate section near the end of the article. Peterkingiron 19:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What you have still not done is to say what your source is. Could you please add that to the article? Peterkingiron 08:42, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, added. 09:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

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Cleopatra

Claim what you like but to say that Cleopatra wasn't African is to have a poor level of geography, SqueakBox 19:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cleopatra was African because Egypt was in Africa.. She just wasn't black like most Afrocentrists claim. Most Egyptians are their own brown ethnic group and related to Afro-Semetics. Cleopatra was a Caucasian Ptolmeic Greek and wasn't related to any of the ethnic groups of North Africa in the first place. Intranetusa 19:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Howdy dude

Thought id drop you a message seen as though you left me one so here goes, When i say fuck capitalism what i mean is i dislike of the extremes of capitalism without measures and checks this ideology can seperate a society creating extreme wealth and extreme povery just study any industrial revolution across the world, explotation you know. All them boxes were put on a long time ago and not all by me all my friends seem to use this account too!

I know the history of Tibet im bloody fed up with it i had to write a 4500 word project on its history, changes in social and economic policy 1850-1960. Again Globalization i cant even remember if it was me who put that on but ill try and explain it anyway, My personal stance is similar to Capitalism its acceptable so long as its controled and no nation is aloud to gain to much power. Unfortunatly this isnt the case how does a small coffee bean grower in west Africa stand up to an economic gaint like the U.S? Surly the explotation of workers in a Chinese sweat shop isnt a good thing and must show a negetive of globalization all so a chav(dont know if you know what one is) can have his Nike shoes at super low prices with Nike taking in huge profits.

Nuclear war is somthing im strongly against. I appreciate your point of view in support of Nukes but please look at these pictures

Imagine if your house your family or friend houses were in one of these If this is what could be done nearly 70 years ago just think what they could do now.... When i downloaded EB my PC died with trojan horse however it probley wasnt the Mod that killed it as i downloaded someother files later that day???

Ciao! Oh wait Pirates for ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! King Alaric (talk) 16:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Ok nice points on the nucks and the convential bombs, lets just say that however just a war is it still sucks for those involved? whatever the weapons are. Well that my view anyway. Take this for an example say all of a sudden Canada turns evil lol what would you rather they had 1000 conventional bombs or 1000 nuclear weapons, nucks can surly cause more damage when used on a mass scale.

Glad you can see my point about the monopoly of Capitalism i respect your opinion but i'm not moving from mine lol.

I find the little quotes slating socalism quite funny (dispite not agreeing with them) check this one out, In Capitalism the rich get richer and the the poor get poorer, in Socalism the rich get poorer and the poor get poorer lol :D

Dude i'm sticking with pirates and i'm not shifting lol King Alaric (talk) 10:03, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Yeah war sucks (most of the time) 'War indicates the failure of democracy'

I guess Nuclear fuel works better in a power plant than in a bomb but renewable that the way to go.

Yeah man you never know Canada might turn evil their a bit shifty you know lol I was watching the south park movie at the time so......

lol love the quote and i guess im off to hell then it sounds like one hell of a party live rock music every night from Jimi Hendrix's house band, All the beer you could possibly want, Gambling with the devil, Cuban cigars hand rolled by Che Guevara and Socalism apparently cool im there lol.

Ninja pirates hmmmmm maybe King Alaric (talk) 10:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclear power being renewable maybe but it seems awful complecated when theres waves and winds that'll last for ever.

South Park lol I was watching the south park movie where the USA and Canada go to war its great lol.

yeah i guess but at least you wont get cold, and im sure if your smoking cigars or drinking beer then Satan will turn the heat down for a bit

Im going to try and find some pirate ninjas right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by King Alaric (talk • contribs) 17:58, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Edits

I responded on my talk page. Sorry for not using the edit summaries to explain myself.--Atlan (talk) 00:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I understand. I admit the RE5 was an error on my part. I also see your point regarding spring rolls. Thanks Intranetusa (talk) 16:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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If you get some free time, please have a look here, I would appreciate your comments on the FG and Epoch Times. MrPrada (talk) 18:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted a reply to your appeal on my talk page. Ohconfucius (talk) 08:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I have started a discussion on what I feel is premature removal of the POV flag following your objection. I'm not sure if you still feel the same, but vote either way I don't care, just that you have an opportunity to voice your opinion. Bobby fletcher (talk) 23:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Comparison between Roman and Han Empires.

First off, I want to thank you for your help editing this article(I am the creator) but I'm concerned at one statement, that Roman civil wars had one million troops. As far as I know, Rome's field armies rarely exceeded 30,000 and at the height of the ROman army under Dioletican, there were only 600,000 troops, including Germans. See Structural history of the Roman Army. I'm fine with you adding material, but can you find a source for it? we need sources for the article right now. Can you cite sources for your additions?Teeninvestor (talk) 18:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, that number refers to the military troops, as well as support elements such as non-combatants, servants, etc. The figure was from both sides having close to half a million troops. Intranetusa (talk) 02:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Caucasoid side of Ainu

Go to PBS "Nova" on the mummies of Gobi. A long journey eastward. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/chinamum/taklamakan.html

Takima (talk) 02:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The taklamakan mummies in the Tarim Basin are not the Ainu. Intranetusa (talk) 02:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Intranetusa

I notice that you've commented on the talk page for Han Dynasty in the past. I recently rewrote the entire thing; I was wondering if you could offer some advice on the talk page once more on how to improve the article in its current state. Thanks.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 19:40, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I will. Thanks Intranetusa (talk) 02:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australia

I agree completely that the material in the 'ethnic groups' infobox shouldn't be there, but this edit shouldn't have been tagged as a minor one.

I'm also not sure that deleting it is the best idea just now. It frustrates me to have this stuff in the article, but I think deleting right now is only going to lead to revert wars that will make it harder to achieve consensus, especially when the article's already been protected (albeit briefly) over this issue. If we can't achieve consensus, I'd like it to at least be clear that we tried to be reasonable. --GenericBob (talk) 01:54, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I understand. What do you suggest at this point? Perhaps recommend the article be tagged with the questionable-information warning? Intranetusa (talk) 02:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's already a 'failed verification' tag on that particular bit of the infobox, so I'm willing to leave it as is for a week or so in the hope of getting some resolution on the Talk page. Meanwhile, I might make a second and more detailed request for input over on Wikipedia:No_original_research/noticeboard. --GenericBob (talk) 02:45, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the ABS source has been corrected. I *hope* that'll be an end to the argument... :-( --GenericBob (talk) 06:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Imperial Rome and Han Dynasty

what the heck are you talking about? how would anyone know what you are talking about with random statement with no source and quote? :)

"During the Han Dynasty, the empire was composed of many different ethnic groups with their own different languages." the reform of languages came during the Qin dynasty, all were already using a standard scripted language.

"The Han didn't have a huge army since they abolished regular conscription and used volunteers." there were close to half a million troop under various commanders of the army and governors. and there was conscription during that period as well since you have to pay a draft taxes to not be conscripted, that imply you would be drafted otherwise.

"Roman armies during the Republican Civil War was actually larger than the Han army during the Eastern Han Dynasty period." you compared 2 mobilized army to an army in reserved. when the rebellion broke in Eastern Han, there were as many if not more troop on both side of the civil war as well.

again, without an idea of what you are talking about, the entire discussion is quite pointless.

Akinkhoo (talk) 06:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1. It was a rebuttal to people saying how much larger the Han army was compared to the Roman army. This is blatantly incorrect. The comparison was in the article "Comparison of Rome and Han." The original comparison was incorrect anyways since it was comparing the time period when Han had the most troops, and the time period after Rome stopped using conscription.

2. Each state before the Qin conquest had different cultures, customs, and different (to a degree) written script.

3. None of the original arguments have sources. Which is why the entire article has now been deleted. Intranetusa (talk) 06:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Chinese New Year/ Lunar New Year

Personally, growing up in Hong Kong, my family mostly called it 農曆新年, which translates literally to "Agrarian Calendar New Year" to distinguish it from the Gregorian New Year. We almost never called "Lunar New Year" in Cantonese. But its called many things by many people. The Chinese culture isn't monolithic. I cannot speak for anyone else. The title of this English language article is fine with me. --Tesscass (talk) 19:22, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since no Chinese word or phrase has ever called it "Chinese" New Year, so I think it is purely a western invention used mostly among westernized Chinese people.

Intranetusa (talk) 02:56, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Size of the Japanese troops in the Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598)

I think the 240,000+ estimate is including the reserve forces Toyotomi Hideyoshi summoned from eastern Japan to be stationed in Nagoya Castle in northwestern Kyushu during the war. The actual numbers Hideyoshi sent to fight in Korea were clearly recorded and never came under much doubt, although they included non-combatants who could have comprised up to 40% of the Japanese forces. According to the Japanese Wiki page, 158,000 and 141,500 men, non-combatants included, were sent across the Tsushima Strait in the two invasions, respectively. The remainder of those higher estimates must have been the reserve forces.

Fuenping (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Responded. Regards Gun Powder Ma (talk) 10:47, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Iron

I have placed a comment on my own talk page, which you are welcome to post to CHF, if you wish. However I do not intend to beecome involved. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the information and input, I will copy and pass it on to the CHF discussion. Intranetusa (talk) 20:08, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

please join the discussion at Talk:Roman metallurgy where GPM is trying to keep the contested iron figures in the article.Teeninvestor (talk) 14:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Actually, my most recent project was Parthian Empire, now a featured article, but all the hard work was done in late March/April/early May. I've done very little in June, and now it is July. I've covered a lot of ground with history articles in my time here: ancient Rome, ancient China, ancient Persia, ancient Egypt, medieval Europe, etc. Yet I am at a loss as to which subject I should pursue next. I was hoping to rewrite Marian reforms, but my university library has a surprising dearth of sources on the subject. Hopefully I'll find something soon.--Pericles of Athens^Talk 23:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Fossils

"Fossils are thousand to billions of years old." That's why such a statement should be... "Fossils are believed to be thousand to billions of years old."

At that point, you're just arguing semantics. Basically everything is "believed to be..." since nothing can be proven to a 100% certainty. Intranetusa (talk) 04:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you. I'm only replying 3 years later, not too bad!

ANI

I'm not sure if you are still active or not, but your username has come up in an incident at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Gun_Powder_Ma_engaged_in_Baiting_and_personal_attacks.2C_also_revealing_locations_of_other_users. Regards.DÜNGÁNÈ (talk) 00:13, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goguryeo%E2%80%93Sui_War#Battle_of_Salsu_River Modern estimates is closer to ~600,000. ^[1]

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I've re-removed the info; there is a long standing consensus that Senkaku Islands should focus primarily on the geographic, biological, etc. information about the island, and that the historical dispute belongs in the Senkaku Islands dispute article. This is for two reasons--first, it's best not to duplicate information across pages, because it makes updates much more difficult, and can be quite confusing if the two parts get out of sync. Second, the Senkaku Islands article, prior to the split, was much too long, and thus we need some way to divide which info goes where.

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Acknowledged. Intranetusa (talk) 06:55, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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