User talk:Iamthegoat524

September 2023

Please refrain from adding, removing or changing genres without providing a source or establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. Nsevs • Talk 05:36, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Im dont wanna be kicked out, I'm just putting the genre that fits best Iamthegoat524 (talk) 06:20, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop. If you continue to change genres without discussion or sources, as you did at Steppin' Out (Joe Jackson song), you may be blocked from editing. Materialscientist (talk) 22:59, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How does discussion work? Iamthegoat524 (talk) 23:28, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can discuss the genre on the article's talk page by clicking "Talk" just below the article title. (For example Talk:Steppin' Out (Joe Jackson song).) But please read the information at WP:GWAR. You need to have a reliable source that describes the genre, and not just your opinion. Nsevs • Talk 04:05, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at Couldn't Get It Right. Materialscientist (talk) 07:02, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

Materialscientist (talk) 07:03, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

October 2023

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Please refrain from adding, removing or changing genres, as you did to Circle in the Sand, without providing a source or establishing a consensus on the article's talk page first. Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive. Thank you. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 13:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Genres and sourcing on Wikipedia

Hello, I see that you have had some of your edits reverted. I don't doubt that you're adding these genres in good faith, but please read WP:Genre warrior for information about how genres function on Wikipedia. You cannot cite user-generated or self-published sources (like the Steve Hoffman forums that you cited at True (Spandau Ballet song)), or auto-generated genres from Spotify (as chosic.com provides, which you cited on multiple other pages). See WP:UGC for more information about why this is.

I'm not trying to come down on you, since I do believe that you are trying to constructively contribute and cite sources for your information. However, these kinds of sources are not reliable by Wikipedia standards. JeffSpaceman (talk) 15:58, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at I Wouldn't Want to Be Like You. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:05, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I literally used a source Iamthegoat524 (talk) 00:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

allmusic is not an reliable source Untamed1910 (talk) 00:16, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

every one else has used all music for their sources Iamthegoat524 (talk) 03:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

January 2024

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at Break My Stride. Binksternet (talk) 01:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

did you block my edits with sources Iamthegoat524 (talk) 14:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted your addition of "rock and roll" to "Pump It Up".[1] The source is Far Out magazine which is crap. They scrape the web for content. And even if it was a good magazine, the source is saying that "Pump It Up" is more in the direction of rock'n'roll than any other Elvis Costello song. That doesn't mean it gets all the way there to official rock and roll musical genre. Binksternet (talk) 00:21, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What about Cars by Gary Numan. Yes, I know AllMusic is not that reliable, but I see others with an All Music source. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 00:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You must be referring to this edit where you said "Cars" is a "disco=rock" song. Your source is not a human writing prose about the genre so it is not reliable. Instead, your source is a collection of songs that some record producer thought could be sold as "Disco Rock Classics". That kind of thing will never be a reliable source on Wikipedia. Binksternet (talk) 06:56, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh okay Iamthegoat524 (talk) 14:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

someone deleted the genre on my we got the beat edit Iamthegoat524 (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did. You cited medium.com which is poor quality, basically a blog host. See WP:MEDIUM which says we should not consider it reliable. Binksternet (talk) 00:04, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh okay Iamthegoat524 (talk) 02:03, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

did you delete my edit on don't give up? Iamthegoat524 (talk) 05:17, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. The cited source was not explicitly describing the song's genre. See WP:EXPLICITGENRE. The source was talking about a "pop performance", not a pop song. Binksternet (talk) 06:23, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why was "Addicted to Love" reverted? I'm sorry if I keep forgetting, it's my first time. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 02:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question, if a website is stating that a song is a "punk dance rocker", should I use Dance-punk or Dance-rock as a genre Iamthegoat524 (talk) 02:48, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

February 2024

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you change genres in pages without discussion or sources, as you did at We Got the Beat. Doctorhawkes (talk) 07:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source in the Discogs was the part that said the style was punk and pop rock. Someone else did the same thing on "Couldn't get it Right" Iamthegoat524 (talk) 00:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discogs is not considered reliable. See WP:ALBUMAVOID. People can log on anytime and change the facts, which is why it fails WP:USERG. The only reliable thing at Discogs are the images taken of album credits and liner notes, especially if there are several editions of the release so that the images can be compared. If someone actually wrote on the "We Got the Beat" release that it was punk or pop rock, then that person could be quoted as an interesting side note, but liner note authors are primary sources, not WP:SECONDARY. Uninvolved music critics are the defining sources for genre. Binksternet (talk) 02:05, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain namespaces ((Article)) for disruptive edits to genres.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can't do this too me. The Heartbeat City edit was reliable btw and the Russians edit was also reliable. As well as the Blondie one, you don't get to block me. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 23:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listen I'm sorry, just please don't block me, I promise my sources will be reliable. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 00:06, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Iamthegoat524 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

You can't do this too me. The Heartbeat City edit was reliable btw and the Russians edit was also reliable. As well as the Blondie one. Listen I'm sorry, just please don't block me, I promise my sources will be reliable. I'm just trying to do my best. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 04:51, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Right now you cannot be trusted to edit about genres or provide appropriate sources for your edits. While you are blocked from editing articles, you are not blocked from contributing to talk pages. You may make edit requests(click for instructions) on article talk pages to propose edits and sources to articles for other editors to review. After you get a history of having your requests accepted, then we can talk about allowing you to regain access to Article space to edit yourself- but that won't be permitted now. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 08:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Hello, Iamthegoat524,

Saying "You can't do this to me" will never get you unblocked. We need to see that you are aware of your mistakes (specify what they are) and that you will not do them in the future. Begging and pleading have only negative effect on the administrator who will review this unblock request. I HIGHLY recommend you read Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks which tells you exactly what you need to do to be unblocked. Unfortunately, for some unknown reasons, most blocked editors don't even look at this page which the blocking admin advises that you read. Geting unblocked isn't a matter of spending 3 minutes writing up a "Don't block me" request but showing you understand why you have been blocked.

You have already been blocked several times for the exact same problems so if you are still being blocked over genres, you're going to have to be very convincing that these problems won't come up in the future. Admins don't want to return to block you every time there is a future problem. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there!

Hi, So I tried talking to HJ Mitchell, the administrator who blocked me, he didn't respond. Apparently, I want to be unblocked from Wikipedia because I like editing genres with source. And I'm not trying to disruptive or a jerk, I just want to make edits. Sorry If they are not reliable, I'll try to do better if I can find a way to find out if a source is reliable. Just trying to do my best! From, iamthegoat524 Iamthegoat524 (talk) 03:31, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Iamthegoat524 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hello, so I know I have been blocked from Wikipedia and I want to talk about it. First off, I'm sorry about the edits. I'm not trying to vandalize Wikipedia or be a jerk, I'm just trying to make helpful edits. I'm just trying to do my best with the sources. I'll let someone know if the source is reliable or not the next time before I edit. I noticed how Wikipedia reverted my Russians edit, I edited that because the original genre didn't have a sourced edit. But I'll promise to change and do better on my genre edits. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 05:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

You do not point to a history of successful edit requests on article talk pages. Instead, you appear to be deliberately wasting our time. If so, perhaps you should have your block extended site-wide? Yamla (talk) 11:24, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

You don't appear to have read my post above. 331dot (talk) 10:47, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Iamthegoat524 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I'm not trying to waste your time, I'm sorry if I am though. Yes maybe my edits were not good when I started Wikipedia, but I'll promise to do better. But I have made some successful edits such as Trampled Under Foot, Kids in America, Pump It Up, We Got the Beat, Telephone Line, etc. Once again, I'm sorry if I am wasting your time. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 15:09, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Checkuser verified abuser of multiple accounts. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 16:04, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Iamthegoat524 (talk) 15:09, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You still aren't pointing to a history of successful edit requests on article talk pages. Either do so or remove your unblock request. You are very close to having your block extended site-wide. --Yamla (talk) 15:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do I remove it? Iamthegoat524 (talk) 15:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you have made some good edits. How about we give you a couple more chances? Spenceyg (talk) 15:58, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is now a checkuser block. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 16:04, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Goodbye

Well, I have never been unblocked, so I think I should leave. I realized I have made mistakes and I loved editing, but I can't do it anymore, so I'm going to leave under one condition. Please don't revert my edits. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 23:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are not in a position to impose conditions. --Yamla (talk) 00:00, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Iamthegoat524 (talk) 00:03, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Under whatever name, you're blocked

Attempting to return with a different username ("Spencer524", "Spencyg", or whatever) will not succeed. By doing this, you've merely been digging yourself into a deeper hole. Suggestion: read Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks carefully and take what it says seriously. -- Hoary (talk) 23:57, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Iamthegoat524 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Your reason here Hey there. I know I have screwed up as a Wikipedia editor. I want to do do better as a Wikipedia editor. I promise I will change. I'm not trying to be a bad guy, I'm very kind, I just have made a lot of mistakes. I'm just saying that I want to make edits in a good way, I'm not trying to do this is a bad way. I want to keep editing, and I promise I will get some help with my edits. Sorry for everything I've done in the past. I've been a pain to you guys and I'm very sorry. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 23:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

The standard offer is open to you. If you can go six months without any further block evasion or sock puppetry, that will count in your favor. It will also give you a chance to mature. If you get bored, you can edit Simple English Wikipedia or another sister project. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I will try a standard offer and edit on Simple English Wiki. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 23:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock Request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Iamthegoat524 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I am coming clean here and I hope you listen. I am sorry for my past mistakes with editing genres, I want to be unblocked since I matured using the standard offer, which I did nothing for 6 months. If I edit Wikipedia, I will change. If a source looks fishy or different, I will ask a administrator if the source is okay. I am not forcing you to unblock me, I am just giving an offer. Please reply back if you can

Decline reason:

As you are not willing to abide by a topic ban, I see no path forward for you. Yamla (talk) 10:40, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Are you promising to abide by a WP:TOPICBAN on editing genres and firmly committing to properly citing (WP:CITE, WP:RS) all other changes? For others following along, no CU evidence of recent block evasion. --Yamla (talk) 10:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? Iamthegoat524 (talk) 04:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's unclear if you just plan to go right back to your previous editing or if you are (1) promising to abide by a WP:TOPICBAN on editing genres and (2) firmly committing to properly citing (WP:CITE, WP:RS) all other changes. If you are not committing to both of those things, there's no reasonable possibility you'll be unblocked. --Yamla (talk) 09:53, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am commiting to properly citing all other changes Iamthegoat524 (talk) 00:06, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't know how a topic ban works? Can you please explain it to me? Iamthegoat524 (talk) 19:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which specific part of WP:TOPICBAN do you not understand? --Yamla (talk) 12:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just don't know it works, do I use it to be unblocked? Iamthegoat524 (talk) 02:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you lack the ability to understand our policies, I'm afraid Wikipedia isn't the place for you. --Yamla (talk) 11:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iamthegoat524 (talk) 07:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will try the topic ban, but I do want to edit the genres on Wikipedia. And yet I didn't edit properly, I just want to set things right now. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 07:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock Reason

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Iamthegoat524 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I will try the topic ban, but I do want to edit the genres on Wikipedia. And yet I didn't edit properly, I just want to set things right now. Iamthegoat524 (talk) 21:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because you have not properly agreed to the topic ban proposed, which would indicate you promise not to edit genres. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 18:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Okay....

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Request reason:

Alright, I won't edit genres anymore and take the topic ban. I thought the standard offer was 6 months without editing whole Wikipedia and genres, but it just means not to edit the entire Wikipedia. I was a little misunderstood on that.

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Okay, if unblocked you'll have a topic ban on "genres, broadly construed" (see WP:TBAN). You also need to commit to using reliable sources for all of your edits (see WP:RS). {{Checkuser needed}} re: possibility for ban evasion. -- asilvering (talk) 04:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CU shows no indication of evasion. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 04:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]