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2012 North American Soccer League season

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Tucson Extreme

While I'll concede that the Tucson Extreme website and lack of Facebook page make it appear that Tucson has quietly imploded, do you have a reliable source for this edit removing them from the list of expansion teams? If so, I'd like to use it to update the Tucson Extreme article. If not, on what do you base your assertion that the club has folded? - Dravecky (talk) 08:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2013 NPSL Season

Hey Groucho, this is Sparty1301, I'm just wondering where you got the 4-3 score for Detroit City FC vs AFC Cleveland. The correct score was 3-1 Detroit City FC. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparty1301 (talk • contribs) 03:32, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sparty1301. I thought I typed in a 3-1 score too. Must have got it confused with the South region score RVA FC over Jacksonville FC 4-3. Thanx for the correction.GrouchoPython (talk) 03:59, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Go City FC!

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National Women's Soccer League

I've been editing 2013 National Women's Soccer League season almost alone since the beginning of the season. So I would like to thank you so much for your help editing and keeping the article upgraded. Thanks a lot.--SirEdimon (talk) 18:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx. As long as I was in the neighborhood. 8^)GrouchoPython (talk) 19:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll appreciate if you keep the good work.--SirEdimon (talk) 20:14, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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PDL division standings templates?

Thanks for contributing the excellent 2014 PDL conference standings tables. I'd like to include just the Mountain Division standings in the 2014 FC Tucson season article which would require creation of sub-templates for each division. What do you think? I would be happy to break them all out but thought I would ask you what you think as you are the creator and have been making all the updates.

Usually, I would wait until the season was over and paste the division table in the article. But if you can add a self-updating sub-template to the page, go right ahead. And thanx.GrouchoPython (talk) 16:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I hope the new break-out isn't too painful to update. I floated the [v t e] links for each division on the right to get them out of the way.Gatomasgordo (talk) 17:38, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A little harder, but no problem. GrouchoPython (talk) 17:43, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Fair enough, in that case you need do nothing; the speedy deletion process will take care of it. I would have been remiss in my duty had I not left a message about it, however! Thank you. Malpass⁹₃! (what I've been ^up to/_drop me a ^___) 16:00, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You can delete LaneUnitedFC.jpg. SVG is always better than JPG.GrouchoPython (talk) 23:32, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

USL Tie Breaking Criteria

The USL Pro standings table has listed that GD is the 2nd tiebreaker criteria after points; however the USL's official standings seems to use pts, Wins, GD, instead. (Thus Wilmington is ahead because they have 8 wins while Rochester only has 7 even though Rochester has a better GD). Do you know if this is documented? If it is we should update the template so that it properly reflects the this criteria. --Trödel 14:23, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The 2014 USL Pro Media Guide (available online) Tie-Breaker procedure says this:

Standings tiebreakers

The breaking of ties in the final league standings, playoffs and finals is accomplished by applying the following criteria, listed in order of importance:

The following two guidelines will be followed during the implementation of USL tiebreakers for all ties involving three or more teams:

1) The tiebreaker will determine the winner first.

2) The tiebreaker will continue to be followed in order to determine the ranking of the remaining teams without restarting from the beginning.

1) Head-to-head record based on total points in league games

2) Total wins in league games

3) Goal difference in league games

4) Goals scored in league games

5) Total points within smallest grouping. If number of games is unequal, then point percentage will be used.

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7) Point percentage outside/smallest division or conference in League games

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9) FIFA Fair Play – Team with fewest disciplinary points in League games. (If number of games is unequal, points will be divided by games played to arrive at a common basis for comparison.)

10) Lottery conducted by USL at league office Point Percentage: number of total points earned / maximum possible points (3 per game)

Should more than two teams involved have played each other an UNEQUAL number of times, this tiebreaker will be skipped.

Group: term used to describe the primary unit in which a team competes (i.e. PDL – Southwest Division)

Point Percentage: number of total points earned / maximum possible points (3 per game)

So it seems to me that Head-to-Head result is the first tie-breaker. The legend should be changed on the USL Pro standings template, but I don't know how.GrouchoPython (talk) 14:46, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Someone else and I both updated the tie-breaker criteria in the footer. :) --Trödel 00:02, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Clarity is always good. :)GrouchoPython (talk) 03:10, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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RE: 2014 USL Pro Playoff Wiki Format

Ok. All you have to do is revert this edits. Guilherme (talk) 02:13, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I appreciate that. BTW, your AET wiki link was better than mine so I kept it and changed it on the other USL Pro seasons. Gotta stay consistent. :) GrouchoPython (talk) 02:34, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Thanks for all you do on the USL Pages, but did you mean to move the info box from the right hand side to the top? Thought I would ask before I moved it back. jefftfsufiji@gmail.com

Jeff Thompson, Florida, USA 17:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Which page? I can't find it. I don't believe I did move the infobox, at least not deliberately.GrouchoPython (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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AZ Rattlers

Hi! Thanks for the update regarding the Rattlers. I also just created a separate Sports in Phoenix page. Please feel free to update that page as well. I'm going to be trimming down the sports section on the main Phoenix page, to bring it more in line to other city pages which have GA or FA status. Thanks! Onel5969 (talk) 12:18, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hibackatcha! Sports in Phoenix is updated. Good idea what you're doing. GrouchoPython (talk) 12:34, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm letting you know that there has been a discussion regarding the US Pyramid: Talk:United States soccer league system#ASL's place in the pyramid. I probably stepped in it by adding ASL without researching that league at all; however, the broader discussion of how to order the leagues that are not sanctioned by USSF is also being included. Would love to hear input from frequent editors of the lower division league and club pages. Thx --Trödel 20:02, 27 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

USL (soccer)

I think we should avoid linking to USL (soccer) for now because it is likely that the United Soccer League (2010) will be moved and then all the USL (soccer) links will become double redirects and not work. --Trödel 14:11, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'll hold off then.GrouchoPython (talk) 15:17, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The move was unchallenged so I did it today, The new link for the league is United Soccer League and I have updated USL (soccer) to redirect to that page. --Trödel 18:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanx.GrouchoPython (talk) 21:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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It's been replaced with an svg version. You can delete this one.GrouchoPython (talk) 23:43, 17 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Walter Görlitz accidentally deleted the logo from the PDL page. It has been restored by him.GrouchoPython (talk) 14:33, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Which ones didn't I update? Can't find them. I updated the career stats for Phoenix Rising players only.GrouchoPython (talk) 23:35, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Go ahead and delete. It's been replaced with a better PNG.GrouchoPython (talk) 04:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The recently released 2023 schedule has them listed as active. GrouchoPython (talk) 16:18, 2 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the edit. The problem I'm having now is that the editors won't release it as a regular wiki page until there are more local references. I've been searching, but the communications department of LAFC isn't putting out enough information for the media to pickup. I had this as a stand-alone page on Wikipedia for at least one month before the editors pulled it back and made it a draft. Roberto221 (talk) 09:56, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Brazos Valley v Twin City Toucans

@GrouchoPython I wanted to comment on your recent change of team names on the USL League Two article. I saw something (I don't remember what) that suggested Brazos Valley changed Twin City Toucans at the beginning of the year too, but when you go to USL2 website it still lists the team as Brazos Valley. If you have a resource to show the name change it would be great. Otherwise I think USL2 still considers them Brazos Valley. Demt1298 (talk) 17:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GrouchoPythonThank You for adding the reference. Demt1298 (talk) 22:49, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

no prob GrouchoPython (talk) 00:29, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2023 USL League Two and NPSL Season

Hello, This is Logan Z Man 2022! I was wondering if you could check the tables and the inforbox for the 2023 USL League two season as well as help with the table for the 2023 NPSL Season. Please respond as soon as possible. Sincerely, Logan Z Man 2022! Logan Z Man 2022! (talk) 21:06, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed the update on the 2023 National Premier Soccer League page (including the infobox). I'll work on the 2023 USL League Two season page now.```` GrouchoPython (talk) 05:25, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You messed up the NPSL season page by putting incorrect playoff information and messing up team names. In the future, please don't do this. ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 23:47, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2023 USL League two season is updated also.```` GrouchoPython (talk) 07:01, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

when I asked you to update the 2023 NPSL Season page, I didn't mean remake all the tables and undo some of the work me and a friend were doing. All I asked were updates to the scores and standings and inboxes. I noticed quite a few errors. I don't mean to come across as rude but with the NPSL we do the standings differently. Logan Z Man 2022! (talk) 01:52, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. I won't touch it anymore. It's pretty obvious I don't know what I'm doing.```` GrouchoPython (talk) 01:56, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't saying you can't. me and Coletrain are saying please be careful next time. Logan Z Man 2022! (talk) 02:25, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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An automated process has detected that when you recently edited 2024 USL Championship season, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Wilmer Cabrera.

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The three articles listed in the disambiguation page do not have birth dates as part of the article titles, so I don't see any error. GrouchoPython (talk) 10:19, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Interest in an unofficial USL project/group

Hey, I've noticed you edit quite a few USL pages and so I wanted to mention that I started an unofficial USL editor project/group in one of my userpages. Letting it be a collective place to chart out projects that folks interested in USL can work on individually or collaboratively.

Feel free to edit the page(s) with your own goals or just use it as a reference point for anything you may want to work on.

If nothing else, I appreciate all the edits you do! Happy holidays! Christiangamer7 (talk) 19:17, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Playoffs link

Hi!

Can you please see Template talk:2024 USL Championship Eastern Conference table#Playoffs link?

Thanks! Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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