User talk:Eric Corbett/Archives/2017/November

Williams tube revert

Mr. Corbett, calling me an "idiot" in the edit summary was uncalled-for. Your lack of civility is unwelcome. If you are feeling hostile toward other editors, you might consider stepping away from Wikipedia for a while and reconsidering what you are doing here. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)^{T @} 05:49, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Do you know what a factor is Hydrargyrum? --Epipelagic (talk) 06:16, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Epipelagic, not to be snide, but do you know what an exponent is? — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)^{T @} 07:01, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Why not try educating yourself instead of trying to defend your clearly ignorant edit? If you are unable to learn, then it is you who ought to be stepping away. Eric Corbett 06:29, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Please excuse this intrusion, but Corbett's edit is correct. Giants of Computing: A Compendium of Select, Pivotal Pioneers,Gerard O’Regan, page 268. --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:40, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Eric Corbett, if that was your only beef with my edit, why didn't you simply fix it and let me know, instead of reverting the whole thing? If you treat other editors rudely, don't be shocked if you are treated rudely in return. Reverting edits wholesale because of a single error and not noting the reason or letting the responsible editor know most certainly can be considered to be "in bad faith". Now that the three-revert-limit has been reached in this instance, errors in that article are your responsibility and reflect unfavorably on your editing skills. — Quicksilver (Hydrargyrum)^{T @} 07:01, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Why not just admit that you're wrong? That would at least go some way towards demonstrating that you're not the wrong-headed child you appear to be. Eric Corbett 08:28, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Eric is right. Other sources showing the SSEM program calculated factors of 262,144 (or 2^18) : [1] [2]. You don't need a computer to calculate the factors of 2 - come on! Okay, it might have been rather blunt to refer to you as "idiot", but you made something factually incorrect with no edit summary explaining why - so what on earth did you expect? There's no point beating around the bush and dressing it up. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:03, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

(As an aside, since 2¹⁸ = 2 x 2¹⁷, the highest factor is 2¹⁷. So you don't need a computer to find that either. --Epipelagic (talk) 09:37, 24 October 2017 (UTC))

Obviously, but only if you know that. Presumably, the computer was supplied with 262,144, but not the fact that it was a power of 2.--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

(Back on subject) I'm not a big fan of calling anyone an "idiot". But if you choose to use rollback and characterize a correct edit as a "Bad-faith revert" you darn well better be right, or live with the consequences. How on earth could one possibly even think that a computer program was searching for the highest factor of 2? If you know what a factor is, you know it makes no sense. If you don't know what a factor is, why are you editing the sentence?--S Philbrick(Talk) 01:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:Stimson Sting 02.jpg

Thanks for uploading File:Stimson Sting 02.jpg. I noticed that this file is being used under a claim of fair use. However, I think that the way it is being used fails the first non-free content criterion. This criterion states that files used under claims of fair use may have no free equivalent; in other words, if the file could be adequately covered by a freely-licensed file or by text alone, then it may not be used on Wikipedia. If you believe this file is not replaceable, please:

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Some research today has revealed that the file is free use, so I'll be updating the licence shortly. Eric Corbett 23:20, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Eric, could you share where you found the image under a creative commons license? As you mentioned the site itself has changed hands since then and I've been looking through the archives to see if I can verify the license without luck. It seems like the website was last taken over in late 2005. We just have to make sure that the image is being licensed correctly. The CC 3.0 license didn't come out until 2007, right at the tail end of that vehicle's production. So it may be one of the older licenses. Thanks! --Majora (talk) 19:15, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

I have a couple of emails from the site currently hosting the Stimson Sting image, allcarindex:

Most photos are free for re-use. We do not claim copyrights for them, because our website is free community-based project. Please let me know which photos your are interested in and for which purpose.

Fell free to use these photos. They are official photos from Stimson website when it was still available

The cc-by-3.0 licence is my interpretation of the sense of the repies from allcarindex. But I could of course explicitly ask allcarindex for permission to use the cc-by-3.0 licence if you think that's necessary. Eric Corbett 23:59, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Hmm. "Free to use" could mean a lot of things. Does it mean public domain? My concern is that they don't know what free to use, and specifically the CC-BY license means. That allows anyone to use or modify the image for any reason, including commercial reuse. The commercial aspect is usually a sticking point for a lot of companies so if they do use a CC license they normally attach non-comm restrictions to it. It also raises questions as to whether or not allcarindex has the rights to tell you you can use the image. Assuming that Stimson Sting, specifically Barry Stimson, created the mock up they would own the rights to it and only they would be able to release it unless they transfer those rights to someone else. Being community based doesn't necessarily mean that they have the rights to the image itself. They could have taken it from Stimson themselves without permission (definitely possible if the company/website is no longer in business). Not quite sure how you want to proceed here but there are still some questions regarding this image that probably should be worked out. --Majora (talk) 00:25, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

I'll continue to do what I can to help resolve these issues. Eric Corbett 00:38, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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UK census data

Hallo Eric, I noticed that you tweaked a ref to the census without realising that the link was dead. Alarmingly we probably have thousands of dead links after ONS revamped their census data website. Data for parishes, wards, etc is now available from Nomis - go to https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/sources/census_2011_ks/report and input the placename. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Neighbourhood_Statistics for more info. I've fixed Calverley. @Keith D: was developing a template for this but I'm not sure how far he got - possibly was still waiting for a reply from me? PamD 23:28, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Correct, I was waiting for a reply from you before going any further, so had parked it while attempting to sort out some of the mess over English Heritage & Heritage England. Keith D (talk) 23:34, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

That's quite a problem. Eric Corbett 01:05, 27 November 2017 (UTC)