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This user has publicly declared that they have a conflict of interest regarding these Wikipedia articles:

Springfontein Wine Estate
I have visited the aforementioned Wine Estate, thus have a conflict of interest

Your submission at Articles for creation: Springfontein Wine Estate (July 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

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Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 10:21, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Emilweb! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 10:21, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Paid editing

Hello Emilweb. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Emilweb. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Emilweb|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Theroadislong (talk) 11:18, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Theroadislong,

thanks for your message and thanks for keeping Wikipedia clean!

I can confirm that I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits.

I have met the owner of the aforementioned Wine Estate personally and got a tour of the premises, however, I write this article fully voluntarily and without hoping to benefit from it in any way.

Best regards

Emil Emilweb (talk) 13:58, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In which case you would be considered to have a WP:conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 14:36, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Theroadislong,

sorry, I was not aware of that. I added the COI to my talk-page accordingly. Emilweb (talk) 08:29, 1 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Springfontein Wine Estate (August 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Additional sources (map, own website, listing on a website etc.) do not do enough to establish notability.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Springfontein Wine Estate and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Greenman (talk) 07:05, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Springfontein Wine Estate (September 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Whpq was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Springfontein Wine Estate and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Whpq (talk) 12:23, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Springfontein Wine Estate (September 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Content like "To explore a domestic "white counterpart" to the Pinotage, Springfontein Wine Estate planted their first Chenel in 2016." is clearly entirely promotional!

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Springfontein Wine Estate and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Theroadislong (talk) 20:32, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Theroadislong,

I can understand where you are coming from, yet must disagree on your statement.

The information is derived from an article published in the print version of "Wineland Magazine" - South African biggest and independent wine journal. In the article, the above winery is highlihted as the first to grow Chenel, apparently a big step for the domestic wine industry, as no domestic white varital ever set feet onto the ground.

I am happy to share a pdf-version of the article, if this proves my credibility. I am still convinced that:

- the above article is of public interest

- the above article is not promotional

In any case, I will "soften" the wording, but want to emphasize again, that I am have no connections with the winery at hand. In the meantime it is just about finishing what I started... Emilweb (talk) 08:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but it reads like something from the company marketing department and "public interest" is NOT a criteria for accepting an article. Theroadislong (talk) 08:43, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply, and yes, "public interest" is not an acceptance criteria. I just wanted to raise that the planting of that Chenel is not only of importance on a micro-scale, but also on a more global level - at least domestically within South Africa. Emilweb (talk) 09:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Springfontein Wine Estate for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Springfontein Wine Estate is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Springfontein Wine Estate until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:22, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]