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My mistake I suppose. Sorry if I misunderstood the process. I know there is already an article on the topic, but I am wanting to submit this article to replace it or have it be merged. The current article has issues with verification, COI, and obsolete links. How do I go about getting this article reviewed for that purpose. I apologize if I should have figured out the process on my own better, but as a newbie I am having trouble navigating all the guideline pages. Thank you again. I am interested in improving the quality of articles regarding literary presses. You can see I have recently edited the article on Backwaters Press based on suggestions I got at the Teahouse. This Mayapple revision also uses suggestions I received there.
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Edward Dixon Edward Dixon (talk) 13:28, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]I have compared your version at User:Edward Dixon/sandbox/Mayapple Press with the existing article at Mayapple Press. I have a few questions.
- Your edit would remove the text: "After a hiatus between 1982 and 1992, it became active again, publishing generally one to three titles a year until 2004, when the press became more active. For the past several years, Mayapple Press has been publishing 12-14 titles a year. Mayapple Press has produced more than 70 titles, primarily poetry by single authors, but also poetry anthologies, short fiction and Great Lakes nonfiction. The Press has a special interest in works that straddle conventional categories: Great Lakes/Northeastern U.S. literature, women, Caribbean, translations, science fiction poetry, recent immigrant experience, Judaica. Publications are in both chapbook and trade paperback formats. This is uncited, but seems uncontroversial and unchallenged. I might move it out of the lead section, but why remove it altogether?
- Your version includes the sentence: "Mayapple publishes poetry, fiction, and creative non-fiction by various notable authors." If you mean notable in the sense of WP:N, this is Wikipedia-jargon and should not be used in an article. If not, is there any indication that the editor selects authors for their notability, and how she defiens this? Why not simply say "various authors" or "selected authors"?
- I see you removed the cited mention of the American Book Award for The Translator's Sister. Why?
- I see you also removed mention of the award finalist status of Out of the Garden. Why?
On the whole, your edit looks like a significant improvement, and I see no major problems. I would have made these changes in a series of smaller steps, which would allow me to make a summary of each individual change. But complete rewrites are a method some editors prefer, and there is no rule against them. I hope these comments are helpful. DES (talk) 16:38, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
DESiegel,
Thank you so much for the review and the tips. I removed the section out of the first paragraph primarily because an editor at the Teahouse had responded to me earlier that the first paragraph was lacking verification. I deleted information I could not find any reference for it other than in the Press website. Also, the language of it sounded somewhat promotional and defensive to me (i.e. not neutral). Good point on "notable." I'll remove that word. I'm not sure what you mean about your last two points. Both of those reference are still there. I contextualized them a bit differently to try to remove the promotional feel of the original. Thanks again for your help and suggestions. Although I have no COI here myself, this is my first major work at Wikipedia, so I want to go lightly and make sure no one suspects that I might. I have heard sometimes new editors get attacked by other editors who presume they have a COI even when they don't.
Edward Edward Dixon (talk) 18:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Referencing on Mayapple Press
[edit]Your edits to add Mayapple Press’s notable authors included references that make no mention of Mayapple Press, the idea of references is that they support/verify the content preceding them. Please see Referencing for beginners Theroadislong (talk) 17:31, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]Nice articles. And, welcome to Wikipedia. Literary publishing is certainly a topic that needs editors. The main bits of advice I can give are to only add what you can source and always keep you cool - no matter what kind of nonsense they throw at you. Longtime editors (I am not in that league) can get extremely rule bound for the same reaaosn judges and police officers do: it's the only way to tame the miscreants. It's hard not tor trip over all the rules. The best way to learn to edit is probaly to watch what esperienced editors do in pages similar to the one you're working on. For xmple, I just added the location of Mayapple. It's standard. Your articles are more likely to be readily accepted if they follow formatting conventions. And poke around a little. You can learn a lot about how the place operates by carefully reading not only an AFD you're interested in (like Backwaters) but by looking at some of the other article sup for deletion. I became a lot less intolerant of editors suggesting deletion of early career poets and literary novelists once I understood how many total vanity pages (and hoaxes) are started every year, and how much work editors put into sorting the wheat form the chaff. I find editing fun, relaxing and rewarding. Cheers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:59, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
- re: Mayapple. It's fine to source some text to the publisher's self description. But most facts, description must be sourced to reliable, secondary sources. Like newspapers, books whose quthors, owners have no relationship to mayapple. I just added such a citation. Feel free to rearrange it. If someone finds and adds couple of more citations to similar sources, s/he can remove the "notability" tag at the top of the page. writing something like: added sources, removed template.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:06, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- The great divides between what is and is not a reliable source are whether the articles are edited by a regular staff (many small sites are not, the Portland Book Review probably isn't, the New York Review of Books is). A personal blog kept by a notable academic is fine ot quote, one kept by a less noted individual is not really acceptable and should be removed from the article. Al of these rules are posted, but it takes time to find and learn them. In general, if you can't source it to an edited, known publication, it doesn't belong in the article. With the exception of some stuff a publisher says about itself. You can have a little of that. Also material from reputable non-profits. to some extent, the easiest way to check is to see wither an outfit is bluelinked, i.e., does it have a Wikipedia page? The Portland Book Review does not. Take a closer look at their website and you'll see that they are a reviews-for-pay operation. I've run into them before. Best remove it and run some google news searches on Mayapple to find better sources.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:17, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- re: Mayapple. It's fine to source some text to the publisher's self description. But most facts, description must be sourced to reliable, secondary sources. Like newspapers, books whose quthors, owners have no relationship to mayapple. I just added such a citation. Feel free to rearrange it. If someone finds and adds couple of more citations to similar sources, s/he can remove the "notability" tag at the top of the page. writing something like: added sources, removed template.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:06, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Your comments were very helpful. Edward Dixon (talk)
Robin Chapman sandbox
[edit]I took a look at User:Edward Dixon/sandbox/Robin Chapman (Poet) and made a few format edits. In general it looms good, although work is needed. a few points:
- When you use a named ref, the uses that do not include the citation info (most oftne the 2nd and subsequent uses) should have a single self-closed tag, like
<ref name="Example name" />
not like<ref name="Example name"> </ref>
- Please use straight quotes, not angled or curly ones
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- More citations are of course needed.
I hope these comments are helpful. DES (talk) 18:04, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, DES, but the Chapman article was not the one I was asking for help on YET. It is very much work in progress this morning. The one I was asking about was Parallel Press which when you didn't respond, I fixed up as best I could and submitted it for approval. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Parallel_Press&redirect=no. SInce then, I have been working on a couple poets - Greg Kosmicki & Paul Dickey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edward_Dixon/sandbox/Greg_Kosmicki & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Edward_Dixon/sandbox/Paul_Dickey. These two articles I think are much closer to being ready to submit than Chapman, so I would appreciate comments on all these. Always appreciate your comments. Hope all is well in you off-Wiki life. Edward Dixon (talk) 18:48, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Paul Dickey (poet) (September 8)
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Paul Dickey
[edit]Needs more sources. News articles, book reviews (reputable small literary publications are fine), or write-ups by institutions (like Creighton) that he's not affiliated with are acceptable.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:09, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, E.M. Gregory. Can do. You are very helpful. Are reviews in hardcopy journals not online okay? Edward Dixon (talk) 16:28, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
- Well, I think he merits an article, based on inclusion in anthologies, and his publication record in highly selective presses and magazines. It has reliable sources. Clearly he is a recognized and respected poet. But I am not really involved enough to know what passes the reviewers of new articles. I wish I could help more.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:41, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
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[edit]Because it contained copyright material I can't put it on Wikipedia and have emailed it too you. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 16:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so very much!!! Sorry for my naivete on this. I'll learn. Edward Dixon (talk) 16:37, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- That looks OK now. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 23:18, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hermera34 (talk) 16:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)Your submission at Articles for creation: Robin Chapman (poet) (September 30)
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