User talk:Denahansen

Is there a reason the subject of lead poisoning cannot be raised with respect to 20th century ceramists like Dora Carrington and Wally Wiselthier? Denahansen (talk) 16:59, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tusnelda Sanders moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Tusnelda Sanders, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) In addition, there is not enough information in existing sources for them to pass WP:VERIFY. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:05, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tusnelda Sanders (August 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MurielMary was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Thanks for creating this draft but there insufficient evidence that the subject meets the criteria for notability on Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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MurielMary (talk) 09:09, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear MurielMary

Not sure what gave you the idea that Tusnelda Sanders is not worth a biographical page on Wikipedia because she and her art most definitely are worth a page. She is a well-known artist in both France and North America, sells well in both places whenever someone decides to part with a Tusnelda painting.

It pains me to have to defend her place, I am only contributing the article because I am shocked that no o ne else has. The Wikipedia method is difficult and off-putting for many. Are you the only person who is reviewing this submission or are there others? I can wait wiki's 4 months for a reappraisal but after that I mean to complain. Denahansen (talk) 18:35, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I declined the submission based on the criteria for notability of a creative professional: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative_professionals There is insufficient evidence that the subject meets these criteria. I see that you have re-submitted the draft, so it will be reviewed again by another reviewer in due course. All the best, MM. MurielMary (talk) 23:17, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dear MurielMary

I see we both write wikipedia entries on once well-known, now less well-known, professional and distinguished women. Since you declined my last submission(s), could you please check my most recent, upgraded draft of the artist, Tusnelda Sanders. The upgraded draft will hang out in the cold, I fear for a very long time, if no one looks at it. And no one has. Could you once again look at it. I submit that Tusnelda is notable, proven in the citations.Collectors of her paintings are surprised that Wikipedia will not recognise her. Denahansen (talk) 23:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Denahansen! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! MurielMary (talk) 09:09, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tusnelda Sanders (October 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MurielMary was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Tusnelda Sanders and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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MurielMary (talk) 11:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tusnelda Sanders (October 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

not clear how they would pass WP:NARTIST?

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 19:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

THis is really confusing. She is a well documented artist whose work is currently experiencing a revival. How many citations does it take for her to be considered "notable"? I am trying my hardest...what am I missing? You declined this draft very quickly so there must be a criterion YOU have that I don't know about...I have read most things Wikipedia offers about "notability'. Vicki Denahansen (talk) 20:12, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see her as WP:NARTIST. her work is in plenty of collections in Cagnes sur mer Denahansen (talk) 20:16, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Tusnelda Sanders. Thanks! Hoary (talk) 02:22, 2 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tusnelda Sanders (January 8)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

I've done a fair bit of copy editing, hoping to get this into shipshape and ready for publishing... and only then looked at the sources more thoroughly, and realised that there isn't actually any real evidence of notability.

As previously advised, this would need to meet either the WP:ARTIST or WP:BIO notability, or failing those the general WP:GNG one, but I'm not seeing any of those being satisfied. Resubmitting without clearly demonstrating at least one type of notability may result in this draft being rejected outright, given that this is now the fourth time this is being declined for the same reason.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:04, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is the biographer of a previously unrecognized artist to do? Her work is recognised in France and the US. Lack of an actual monograph does not equal lack of notability. There is an informative website devoted to her work. Tusnelda's US exhibitions got covered in the 1940s and again in the 1960s, people bought lots of her paintings. Wikipedia is the people's encyclopedia but not always inclusive. Tusnelda is a naive artist in themode of Maude Lewis and GrandMa Moses and, arguably more successful financially judging my her sales record when alive and now, after her death. Can you direct me to someplace on Wikipedia where I can discuss the Tusnelda-is-not-notable issue. This is unfair. Denahansen (talk) 16:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 13:36, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have no interest in continuing with this version of Tusnelda Sanders. Thanks for heads up Denahansen (talk) 17:48, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I assume you are talking about referencing a wikipedia page. The article can stand without that reference. Thanks Denahansen (talk) 17:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Assuming you are talking about using wikipedia as a reference. that's ok, the wiki entry stands without that ref. thank you Denahansen (talk) 17:50, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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