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October – November 2008

Catherine of Aragon

Hello, DBD! I need your help around Catherine of Aragon. User:Chloe2kaii7 keeps inserting misleading and unnecessary lines which also make the article look horrible. It's impossible to convince her to stop. Two users are not enough to stop her. Please take a look at the article. Surtsicna (talk) 13:19, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Input

There is a post on WP:AN that you may or may not wish to comment on. Prince of Canada^{t | c} 07:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Causes of death

Can you help here? Carcharoth (talk) 01:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Privy Council lists

Since you have recently been editing the relevant material, please seeList of current members of the British Privy Council#List by jobs. -Rrius (talk) 23:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In tables it is okay to repeat. Since people use a table rather than reading it, they are not likely to know where to find the linked version of an office because they won't have read the whole thing. If we don't link Lord Phillips, how would someone find the first link? If we do not link Phillips, it's hard to justify linking Bingham. Since the distance between repetitions is going to be irregular, it is hard to come up with a consistent rule (like once every four references) that will actually make sense. The distraction factor isn't there either. It is awkward to read text that constantly jumps between black and blue. Tables aren't read in paragraphs, so the colour differences aren't jarring. I figured just repeating the link each time was the most logical.

As far as L J Surname v. Sir/Dame Forename Sirname, I have generally followed this list and the article names. News accounts usually use the latter form, too. Moreover, it gives more info about who this is. I didn't quite know what to do about the Scottish judges, which the PCO's list calls "Lady X".

With regard to shortening "Lord of Appeal in Ordinary" to "Law Lord" and the like, I was trying to avoid a recent fight I saw elsewhere, but I was being stupid. -Rrius (talk) 20:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, but just to be clear we are not using the extra names used by the judge list (eg, the Chancellor of the High Court is Andrew Morritt, not Robert or Robert Andrew Morritt), right? -Rrius (talk) 21:10, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know we were adding them (I guess I figured yours were already there). -Rrius (talk) 21:14, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did the same thing with the roles, but I didn't do the postnominals. -Rrius (talk) 21:44, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Line of Succession to the British Throne trimming proposal

An editor recently boldly trimmed Line of Succession to the British Throne. Another editor objected. Please contribute to the discussion to determine if there is a consensus to support this bold edit. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 15:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Peers

Why do we put PC, when they're all PCs? And our source doesn't use "The", so why do we? Therequiembellishere (talk) 19:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In case something is said about Rt Hon, I'd say the justification for leaving those is that someone can be part of Cabinet without taking the title initially, but upon being sworn-in to Cabinet, they immediately take the PC suffix. Therequiembellishere (talk) 19:57, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I see. Therequiembellishere (talk) 22:07, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RfC/U request

A Request for comment/User conduct has been initated here regarding User:Roux (formerly User:PrinceOfCanada). As someone wish past interactions with this user, you are invited to comment. --G2bambino (talk) 17:04, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DBD; if you haven't noticed it already, I want to draw your attention to an amendment I made at the above mentioned RfC/U since you posted your comments there. As I was reminded to make the addition after reading your words, what I added may be pertinent to you. --G2bambino (talk) 19:37, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

rfcu

No, I won't be back. I cannot handle the stress of trying to deal with him. He's done it before, he's done it to me now. Bullies always win. Do keep in touch, but please do not ask me to comment on or be involved with any articles that he touches. [ roux ] [x] 21:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Cretinous masses

Thank you for that :) I hope to come back to those articles someday. [ roux ] [x] 03:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rfc comment

My comment was also meant semi-facetiously. I go temporarily ~~deaf~~ blind on ~~hearing~~ reading rude words! :) Indeed I did share the sentiments of your comment. I don't wish to lose either G2 or Roux as an editor... Regards, --Cameron * 13:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Threats

I suggest that you cease to issue threats as you did on my talk page. --G2bambino (talk) 21:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh boy. Listen, I know you feel strongly about this whole roux/g2bambino situation- I do too. But this only puts fuel on the fire. L'Aquatique[talk] 21:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would endorse that comment. The condemnation in your message was well written, clearly heartfelt, and told the story powerfully. The "I'll get you blocked" just detracted from it, and wasn't necessary, because a block was already in the offing. Mayalld (talk) 07:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't say "I'll get you blocked". I was careful to maintain the veil... :P D B D 10:17, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know you didn't, and that the statement can be read as "I will still be here to watch when you are blocked". Either way, it detracts from the statement, and allows you to be cast as the bad guy. Getting yourself cast as the bad guy doesn't help to get the real bad guys dealt with. Mayalld (talk) 10:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair point mate. I just hate this whole thing. D B D 10:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spooks

It's already aired on BBC Three MattParker 119 (talk) 23:43, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That does not violate Wikipedia:Spoiler its not a problem if people who read the article don't have access to Digital TV. If they want to find for themselves then they don't read the article MattParker 119 (talk) 23:47, 24 November 2008

Infoboxes and styles

DBD, there's an article specifically on the Style of the monarchs of Scotland, so it's second-best to be linking the to Style of the British sovereign where Scots rulers are concerned. Angus McLellan (Talk) 01:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DBD, the burden of discussion lies with those introducing changes. There was nothing wrong with what you did, but now you know there is opposition, I'll hope you'll stop and discuss. This needs nothing more than more changes to the British monarch template so there's no reason for any bad humour or edit-warring to result. :) Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 11:57, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, continuing to revert and marking your edit-warring changes as "minor" is a sign of bad faith. You realise that, don't you? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 11:58, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted those prior to receiving your message. I have since ceased D B D 12:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you already knew of opposition. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, explain what it is about the British monarch template you believe to be superior? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I raised the de facto scope creep here, a while back, and no explanations were forthcoming. The scope, it says, is "full members of the royal family ... since the ascension of George I". Not Alexander III of Scotland then. Angus McLellan (Talk) 20:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spooks 2

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/proginfo/tv/wk49/mon.shtml#mon_spooks

"Meanwhile, Harry's house is stormed and he is arrested. Richard Dolby, Director-General of MI5, grills him for information but Harry insists he has been set up by ex-MI5 officer Bernard Qualtrough. Dolby remains unconvinced and sends in a brutal interrogator." 62.49.20.179 (talk) 20:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request For Rollback

Granted, obviously. Why aren't you after more buttons to help? Pedro : Chat 22:55, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]