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Irony

Resolved
 – CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:49, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello! Talk:Irony_(Wonder_Girls_song)#Requested_move_10_May_2023 should have been closed as move, given WP:RMNOMIN. Could you please undo your closure for this? Please also see the current discussion at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests. Thank you. Breaktheicees (talk) 20:14, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

@Breaktheicees: I thought I already replied there but I guess not. This is kinda a gray area of policy, but I guess I will... CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:41, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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G14 on John Rolph (disambiguation)

It appears that you tagged John Rolph (disambiguation) with {{Db-g14}} even though it did not "disambiguate only one extant Wikipedia page" but rather two, John Rolph and John Rolph (judge). (See Archive.org.) If you think this was a correct tag, could you explain why this page was within the language of the G14 criterion for speedy deletion? (I have not asked the admin who deleted it.) SilverLocust 💬 21:14, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

@SilverLocust: John Rolph is the primary topic, and the only thing this was disambiguating was the judge. As far as I'm aware, this has always been interpreted as Disambiguation pages that have titles ending in "(disambiguation)" but disambiguate only one extant Wikipedia page. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 21:55, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
No, {{one other topic}} is for "disambiguation page containing only two topics, one of which is the primary topic." If G14 excluded the primary topic, then every WP:ONEOTHER page would be eligible for G14. That's why, for example, Mountain people (disambiguation) currently has a PROD. SilverLocust 💬 22:06, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
I suppose {{one other topic}} may just be another option. My interpretation of why it says "disambiguates" rather than "links" was in order to exclude the "see also" pages. I will try to find some relevant discussion/seek clarification. Thanks. SilverLocust 💬 23:01, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Ah, it wasn't actually the disambiguation page that you tagged for deletion. You moved the dabpage to John Rolph (politician) and BLAR'd it. (I would personally move it to John Rolph (disambiguation) rather than to an implausible title for the dabpage history, though I have seen this approach before.) SilverLocust 💬 03:09, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

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Christian Science Center article

{{resbox}} Hello Clyde. I wanted to follow up here as per the closed discussion template instructions. Thanks for weighing in on the discussion on the Christian Science Center article concerning the requested move for the purpose of updating the title. I thought that if there was no opposition the move should be made, as per the closing instructions for move requests. And it was also my impression that a lack of consensus occurs only when there is a situation such as two equally strong competing arguments, as per the closing instructions section on possible outcomes. Also, it appears the guideline you referenced is for article deletions, not name changes. Thanks. FirsthandPOV-CCS (talk) 13:04, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

FirsthandPOV-CCS, I missed the that no one explicitly opposed and that it was only relisted once.  Relisted. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 14:08, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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Closure

{{resolved}} Since "technically" per WP:DELPRO#NAC, a non-admin shouldn't be closing a discussion they participated in (and yes, SNOW is of course an extension or IAR), I thought I'd (hopefully) save us any potential drama/disruption and endorse/affirm the close. I hope this helps. - jc37 20:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Jc37, thank you. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 20:57, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

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Request on 17:25:36, 7 September 2023 for assistance on AfC submission by Kellerlikehelen


I am wondering what in the text is making it seem like an advertisement. I am also wondering why the website references are not deemed reliable. They are not produced by the creator or the subject.

Kellerlikehelen (talk) 17:25, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Acknowledging receipt. Currently away from my PC, but should hopefully respond by end of the day UTC. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 18:15, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Kellerlikehelen, I'm sorry this took so long. I've been busy with real life recently. Firstly, my comment that nothing has changed is wrong. I missed the changes you made. I think the "recognition and reception" is a tad bit promotional since none of the recognition seems to be from notable places, but it's passable. As for sources, it's really borderline. 3 sections are unsourced and I think the sources that are there fall short, but I recommend you resubmit it so someone else can take a look at it. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 19:32, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

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{{resolved}} Hi ClydeFranklin. Just wanted to let you know that free files mistagged as non-free don't require a trip to FfD. This is a wiki after all, so please don't hesitate to be bold :) Thanks, FASTILY 06:49, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Fastily: noted, thank you. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 14:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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Closure of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 1#X by Y in Z

{{resolved}} In cases like these, where the discussion is messy (because it's a renomination) and there are a large number of categories involved, it's best to avoid snow closes. Leaving it for a few more days doesn't hurt. Just something to keep in mind for the future. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:37, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl, noted with apologies. CLYDE TALK TO ME/STUFF DONE 15:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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Internal market

{{resolved}} I strongly oppose your move of the "internal market (disambiguation)" page. In 2012, it was established via RM that "internal market" overwhelmingly refers to the EU, and a Google search indicates that hasn't changed even with the establishment of a UK version. I also think that a change of this nature should go through the proper WP:RM channel for page moves, rather than in the backwater of RfD, with a very sparsely attended discussion. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 10:04, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Amakuru, I don't know how on earth I missed this, but I'm very sorry. I only saw it while looking through an archive.
Anyways, this request sounds reasonable, but for clarity's sake, what are you requesting? That the move be reverted then taken to RM or that a new RM be started to move Internal market back to Internal market (disambiguation)?
Thanks and please accept my apology. Clyde [trout needed] 04:25, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Invisible re-ping since I never got a "ping sent" notification. Sorry if this double-pings you. Clyde [trout needed] 04:28, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi Clyde - I'd say probably a revert of the move and open an RM would be my request. That way we reaffirm the long-term status quo initially, and then assess the community's consensus from there. By the way, how do you see notifications of pings? I've not been aware of that before! Cheers  — Amakuru (talk)
Amakuru,  done. And about the successful ping notifications, WP:ECHO § Successful mentions. Clyde [trout needed] 16:09, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Vanderwaalforces, thanks much. I await your review. Clyde [trout needed] 18:33, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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Thanks much! Clyde [trout needed] 22:50, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
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