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Archive 11

January 2012 - December 2012


Nomination of Tony Lord (One Life to Live) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Tony Lord (One Life to Live) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Surobi District (Paktika)

Please check out the deletion tag at Surobi District (Paktika), I think it should not be deleted. Khestwol (talk) 20:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Qalat

Is it possible that you could correct any errors yourself, and I note that the article currently doesn't mention that the term is as widespread as you say. I can only work from what is given.Mddkpp (talk) 11:56, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Talk

hi. I addressed your argument about "not always part of it in the past". On the article Talk. See what I said here. Thanks. Hashem sfarim (talk) 20:58, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Further response

I said this:

Well then you're not looking carefully, because the "new argument" (for example) was one in addressing one of yours, about "not always part of Italy in the past". I refuted that argument reminding you that many other regions of Italy were not considered part of a unified whole until recently anyway. Number two, as far as "readability", that's just your opinion that it's not readable in saying it the way it is with "region of southern Italy" in the opening sentence. The point is saying it in the opening as well as "Medit Island" is not so "unreadable". Why should it be? It's accurate and is way more consistent with other regions of Italy is the point. Not that major a deal. But in principle not something that should be rudely reverted (with no explanation) at first, simply because of taste. Hashem sfarim (talk) 21:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering what your reasoning is for adding archive links to references that are still live, such as this one when we usually add an archive link to references that are dead links. The archive link will still be there after the live link no longer exists so it seems like you are doing unnecessary work where there is actually no need. BTW archive links are usually done like this using the archiveurl and archivedate fields within the "cite" templates. I'm curious. ww2censor (talk) 15:59, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry for that

I will revert all your corrections later, sorry for that. There's a lot of discussion going on Zadar right now. --Silvio1973 (talk) 11:35, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

No problem at all. But I changed a section of text and by mistake could have erased some of your corrections. It was just to tell you I was going to put them back. Sorry for the misunderstanding. --Silvio1973 (talk) 20:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Colleges in Shahjahanpur

I declined the G12 at Colleges in Shahjahanpur. I could be wrong, I explained on the talk page, but wanted to let you know, in case I'm in error and it should be revisited.

My talk page comments:

Virtually all of the content is a copy of a list. Pure lists, with no creativity as to the order and format, are not generally viewed as subject to copyright.

This article may not survive for other reasons, but I'm declining the CSD as a G12

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Iran Country Study Guide

Hi dear Bejnar. Thank you for information. --Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 12:35, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Re infoboxes

{{Infobox UK Legislation}} ? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:56, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Hydrology

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Algoman orogeny

Bejnar, you may be aware that in response to your request for comments on Algoman orogeny, I started a peer review. There are now a lot of comments on that page. RockMagnetist (talk) 21:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

South Pacific Division

I undid the "merge/redirect" that you did for a couple of reasons:

  • The edit caused a double redirect.
  • The section in the USACE article is merely a summary to show how widespread USACE is in the US.
  • A stub article should be expanded where possible, not deleted unless no further information is available.
  • Further information on SPD is available (I just don't have the time to flesh it out); and a main article can be a valuable resource to researchers if it exists.
  • Having a stub versus no stub acts as an encouragement to editors (i.e., the public) to improve the article per Wikipedia guidelines.

Have a great day! Don'tKnowItAtAll (talk) 18:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Response to your reply

I understand where you are going, but the only reason there is no expansion of these stubs is that there are only so many things one can do in a day. I started watching the various USACE-related wiki articles because of NPOV problems, but I can't fix them all (right now). I tinker more than anything at this point and usually just watch my watchlist.

As for notability, a quick Google on us army corps of engineers "south pacific division" revealed 17,900 hits. It is probably like that for the other divisions.

I hear what you are saying about content forking. It could potentially be a problem; however, it depends on how it is done. Each District and Division has different "centers of expertise" in an attempt to minimize redundant work effort. I think that these would be interesting to researchers, but I don't have the time to research for independent notable articles that are not written by the subject organization itself. Exploring/explaining all that in the main USACE article would make that article too big (IMNSHO, it is already too big per Wikipedia:Article size). And that is also why I removed many redlinks in the main USACE article since there was little likelihood of getting any article on those subjects started in the foreseeable future. In general, I see it more as splitting an article.

As for the article titles, that IS a problem. I did not create the articles. They could be -- should be -- moved to more appropriate AND consistent, more self-explanatory titles. But that doesn't mean that they need to be eliminated. Don'tKnowItAtAll (talk) 19:20, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

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Dalmatia

Hello Bejnar, I have noticed that you were involved in the talk page of Dalmatia. Can you give a look to my last edits in the talk page. I find the article as it is today quite confusing. --Silvio1973 (talk) 11:22, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

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Lumi rivers

Hallo, As there are two rivers called Lumi, neither of which is massively more notable than the other, they both have disambiguated article titles and the disambiguation page should be at Lumi River. We only need a page at "Xyz (disambiguation)"if there is an article at Foo, the "Primary usage" of the title. I am moving the disambiguation page to its correct title. PamD 07:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Witu

Hi,

I deleted Kenyan Witu. Can't confirm this even exists. Dahalo, maybe? — kwami (talk) 23:34, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Template:History of Iran

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Category:Populated places in the Njombea Region

Hi Bejnar. How to get rid of it? I don't know, to be honest. I don't do very much work with categories (as I have just demonstrated!) I'll have a look into it. --Shirt58 (talk) 06:17, 9 September 2012 (UTC)


Im sorry?

What hoax are you reffering too? Please be more specific? --Kijoorete-Bahnhof (talk) 00:06, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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It was a general warning based upon the three articles that you posted today that all lack sources that will verify the content. --Bejnar (talk) 00:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
If you look at the Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Lumber_Avenue page, I have listed a link which proves that Lumber Avenue is NOT a hoax. Furthermore, I added that thousands of people live on this road and hundreds of thousands of people have heard of it. Just because you and a bunch of random Wikipedia admins have not heard of it does not mean it is not notable. --Kijoorete-Bahnhof (talk) 00:21, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
I notice, from the citation that was provided to Googlemaps, that Lumber Avenue is shown as running for about seven blocks in Steinbach, Manitoba. Please, could you inform us what it was about Lumber Avenue that made it worthy of an encyclopedic treatment? --Bejnar (talk) 00:29, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
I note that the article Fantastic Shabalanga authored by Kijoorete-Bahnhof has been deleted by an administrator as vandalism. That would not have been my choice, but it was lacking. --Bejnar (talk) 00:39, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Concerning Trapa rossica

Your edit mentioning Trapa rossica piqued my curiosity, and I was was wondering if you happened to have a picture of the plant or seed?--Mr Fink (talk) 12:21, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw in that article: I will try to send an email over there to see if the castle staff could provide a picture. Also, is the castle grounds the only location T. rossica is now found?--Mr Fink (talk) 13:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for the information and the links!--Mr Fink (talk) 17:02, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

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Your Stamp Upload on Tusi

Hi Can you fix the date on this stamp [1]. I believe the correct date is the Iranian year 1355/1356..which coressponds roughtly to 1976 (circa when Tusi passed away). Thanks--108.18.145.11 (talk) 11:57, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I agree that 1976 seems much more likely. It's closer to the 1974 "700th anniversary" and the style of the stamp seems more like 1976. I attempted to verify the date using Scott's Postage Stamp Catalogue, but I could not find it listed there, which probably means that it is a revenue stamp and not a postage stamp. That it says "Iran" and not "I. R. Iran" or "Republic Iran" means that it cannot be after the 1979 revolution. I don't know what reference I might have had six years ago when I uploaded this image. I'll see if I can find the 2003 Revenue Stamps of Iran somewhere to verify the date. Thank for bringing this to my attention. --Bejnar (talk) 20:47, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into it..the stamp is definitely pre-1979 as you noted.--108.18.145.11 (talk) 03:09, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Merge all Force Protection Wing HQs

Good Evening Bejnar

I have replied to the post you created on 19 October 2010 on Talk:RAF Regiment called "Merge all Force Protection Wing HQs here" agreeing that RAF Force Protection Force Headquarters could be created. Today i created the article, you are free to edit it if you wish, the headquarters section is missing at the moment but i'm sure someone can fill in it. Can you please go to the Merge all Force Protection Wing HQs here section and close the merge discussions then if you want change the two article to redirects (or i could if you wish), the information has already copied to the new article? Thanks. Gavbadger (talk) 17:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

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Northern Mbundu

I did not quite understand your redirects. Which is the term you consider as mnost commonly used: Northern Mbundu (introduced by European ethnologists, unknown in Angola), Mbundu (which in Angola as well as internationally is increasingly given up in favour of Ambundu or Akwambundu, i.e. with the plural prefix), or Kimbundus (which is used by Portuguese and other Europeans who don't know Kimbundu is just the languege spoken by the Ambundu)? -- Aflis (talk) 22:59, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

My comments about frequency were not about the names but about the topics, as I was doing disambiguation. Of the articles on Google scholar and the current English Wikipedia which use the term "Mbundu" more than 80% use it to refer to the Ambundu whose article currently on the English Wikipedia is at Northern Mbundu people, not my choice. Generally the term Ovimbundu is used preferentially for those people at the current article Southern Mbundu people, again, not my choice of title. With any luck, no articles currently use the Mbundu people redirect page, but past usage suggests that if in the future they do so they would be most likely referring to the Ambundu, hence it currently points to the Northern Mbundu people article. There is a dab hatnote at the top of the article to catch any false drops. If someone suggests a move of Northern Mbundu people to Ambundu, I would support it. (The redirects would follow the move.) See WP:Requested moves. As to the languages, where I found someone using Mbuntu, I tried to check their source, again the more likely target was Kimbundu, as in the dictionary by Amandus Johnson. Again, I did not name the articles, so the article about Kimbundu is at North Mbundu language, etc. Again I suggest going through the formal move process. I hope this helps you understand the choices I made, it was not about the names. If you have a more specific question, I'd be glad to try and answer it. --Bejnar (talk) 05:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanations. I am indeed entirely in favour of changing the titles "Northern Mbundu" to "Ambundu", and "Southern Mbundu" to "Ovimbundu". And, of course, of "Northern Mbundu language" to "Kimbundu". Which by the way, corresponds to the use I found in other Wikipedias - I edit mostly in pt:WP, but frequently have a look at fr:WP and de:WP. What I don't know is how to proceed in en:WP so that the titles are changed. -- Aflis (talk) 09:45, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Copied from my talk page: :@Bejnar: I think I have basically understood the process, but your intuition is right: I never feel comfortable with such procedures, whether in WP or elsewhere. I am thus happy (and relieved) that you have taken the lead, and yes, if you are ready to go on with Ambundu and Kimbundu, please feel free to do so. -- Aflis (talk) 20:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Durrani Empire

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local Sparta Historic District

Hi, i notice you seem to be doing some nice work. I think this edit by you removing a redlink to Sparta Historic District (Ossining, New York) should be reversed by you, if I understand correctly that there is a local historic district that is worthy of a Wikipedia article. You indicate the worthiness of it, and suggest article creation, by creating the redlink. It's not circular. Maybe there is a policy statement about it, at Wikipedia:Red link? Redlinks help the wikipedia grow... :) Anyhow, keep up the good work. --doncram 01:01, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Got your reply. And i noticed your long contribution history apparent in your archives going way back, right after i hit "save" on this. I thought your name seemed familiar, but i was commenting as if you were a newbie, sorry. Sure, okay, then I will revise the Sparta Historic District (disambiguation) page consistent with there being just one article (actually returning your entry there to as you entered it originally). This was all confused because there was a bad edit before yours, at that dab page, for the other entries. Cheers, --doncram 01:16, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
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SAL titles

Thanks for your input at: WT:SAL#should not... vs. are not normally... I have left a question for you. Blueboar (talk) 14:34, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Blueboar (talk) 15:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Ruben Canelo

Hello, Bejnar! You might be interested to know that somebody is still trying to have an article here about "Lord Professor Ruben Canelo of Studley". You successfully nominated the Ruben Canelo article for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ruben Canelo, and you were the one who had the insight that the "Lord of Studley" title was almost certainly not real. Since then a new SPA created a new article Lord Professor Ruben Canelo of Studley which was speedy-deleted. If interested you can follow the goings-on here: User talk:MelanieN#"Lord of Studley" hoax, here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Stadleyrc/Archive, and here: [2] at Wikimedia Commons. --MelanieN (talk) 20:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

List of family relations in American football

Hi - any reason why you've notified me of this AfD? I've never even edited the article, and made a passing comment at the previous AfD without giving an opinion either way. GiantSnowman 19:16, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Festus v. Festus

Hey, Bejnar, I acknowledge that this can be tricky, but I think you need to revisit your disambiguating of Festus to Festus (historian) or Sextus Pompeius Festus. If the ref to Festus mentions the edition of Mueller (or Müller) or of Lindsay, sometimes just designated as M or L, it's Sextus Pompeius Festus. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:26, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I work in this area a lot, and I only rarely see refs to Festus (historian). The other Festus is particularly likely in contexts pertaining to Roman religion and customs. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:41, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
I'll double check when you're done. I'd also guess that if the citation is given by page number, it'll be Sextus. From what I known of the historian, he would be cited by a section number. Cynwolfe (talk) 18:02, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm very impressed by your carefulness in this. I'm in a bit of a dash at the moment, but yes, there are different excerpts and so forth of Festus the lexicographer. If you find a Festus in connection with Paulus, it's the lexicographer, because that refers to excerpta. An s.v. will mean the lexicographer, because it's referring to the entry rather than a page number in an edition. Flamen Dialis would be the lexicographer. Will try to remember to get back to this. Cynwolfe (talk) 23:35, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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Citing jw.org

Hi. Thanks for your help – the URL you found is actually very useful, because it gets closer to the "destination" than I had managed to get. Using the "View source" function in IE, I can grab a list of the four-digit codes that are used for each county, and substitute the relevant one for the county I'm interested in. If I add an explanatory note in the citation template (something like "Click Search on this page"), I reckon that should be a sufficiently robust citation. It is a rather strangely designed website, but never mind! Kind regards, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:58, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Please take a look at this

Hi, Im wondering if you could help me with something, After another user commented on the List of Presidents of Colombia on being too complicated to read and full of misleading information, which was true, it prompted me to take some action and attempt do some changes and clarifications, specially because its not just this page that has misleading, unclear information, but every page relating to one of our "presidents", their vice presidents, first ladies, government ministers, elections, and the general way Colombian history is told in wikipedia in relation to its leaders and constitutional stages, and by fixing this list it can provide a guideline to fix and edit the relating articles and help in the making of future ones. So after a lot of research I have made some adjustments focusing on the constitutional presidents, like it should be, in any case could you take the time to look over what I've done in User:Mijotoba/List of Presidents of Colombia and give me your opinion and advice, it's hard to find other users from the Colombian wikiproject who may be familiar with its crazy history, and I wanna make sure that Im getting enough feedback before i make the changes in the actual page. Thanks. mijotoba (talk) 01:48, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

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The name Scadoxus

Apologies, my earlier edit was very misleading. The Coombes book says that the origin of the name is "obscure" but means that it's unclear as to what the origin of the name is, not that its name means "obscure". So I've tried to clarify it to combine what you wrote and what I tried to write. Peter coxhead (talk) 15:58, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

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