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Speedy deletion declined: File:San diego state.gif

Hello Arbor to SJ. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of File:San diego state.gif, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Two criterion were not met: "which is on Wikipedia", and "all inward links have been updated". The other file is on Commons, and there's still links pointing to this one. Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:15, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Thomas Walkup place of birth

What's your source for this? It's clear his hometown (where he lives) is Pasadena, Texas from multiple sources, but that isn't a place of birth. Some sites, like RealGM.com are not useable for place of birth because they take the hometown from college bios and put it in a place of birth field. Just want to make sure Wikipedia isn't spreading incorrect information, Rikster2 (talk) 01:08, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

This article by SFA athletics describes Walkup as a Pasadena native. Arbor to SJ (talk) 03:26, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Hopefully they are using the phrase properly. Rikster2 (talk) 03:51, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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School names

Template:Infobox basketball biography uses modern school names across the board in the "College" field. This was to eliminate confusion about who attended which school. If you look at Bob Kurland, you see he's from "Oklahoma State" when the school was "Oklahoma A&M" at the time. In the player/coach history it uses historical names. Rikster2 (talk) 10:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

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Alma mater for players in college basketball coach infoboxes

Hello -When you are updating college basketball coaches' info could you stop adding their university to the "alma mater" field if they were college players and the info is already in the "player years" section? It's the only place where the same info ends up getting listed twice when this happens. I am not sure if other sports treat this differently but for basketball coaches we don't do the duplicate thing. Thanks for your work on these, by the way - very helpful! Rikster2 (talk) 22:48, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Rikster2 - what about for those coaches who played CBB at one university then got graduate degrees at another? Arbor to SJ (talk) 22:52, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

I guess I'd ask how relevant really Masters degrees are for coaches. Many pick them up at a coaching stop, but they don't mean much to their career. The infobox is really meant to give the most important details for these folks. But that's just my take. The bigger concern is putting the same info into an infobox twice. Rikster2 (talk) 13:27, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Colors module

Please keep WP:CONTRAST in mind... this should be white font. Black isn't readable on the red. Corkythehornetfan 03:08, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Whoops. I did not keep that in mind, when putting the colors in the order of my source. Thanks for the tip. Arbor to SJ (talk) 03:13, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Robert Covington photo

Was a picture of Christian Wood, FYI. Fixed on Covington's page. JesseRafe (talk) 16:30, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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Countries in infobox

Hey - my Adrian Oliver revert was mainly to start a conversation about this. There has never been a consensus reached about country being listed after team names. There have been many discussions, but none have ended in a real consensus either way. I have been removing these lately for the following reasons:

1. They clog up the infobox, especially is the team or country name is long. Infoboxes are condensed space and we need to make choices about what they include. Adding country/league is somewhat useful, but at the expense of clean use of white space.
2. They are very American-centric. Country is used instead of league in envy case except US minor leagues. But if you start to list league instead of country then you end up with a lot of leagues no one knows and it doesn't accommodate promotion/relegation which is common in European leagues.
3. There are many cases where a player only plays in one league their whole career. 5-6 entries of "Greece" looks pretty stupid. But if you remove some and not all you lose consistency.
4. They have become a crutch for not writing a full article. A number of articles are stubs that don't document player movement. A good article should talk about each team, where it was and how they performed. Do this and you don't need country in the infobox. The Oliver article does this quite well in my opinion. It really doesn't need the parenthesis.

Just my opinion, if you feel strongly about it you can re-add these to the article and I won't remove them. I will, however, continue to take them off other articles. Thanks for hearing me out. Rikster2 (talk) 22:27, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

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Arsenault middle name

Can you add a citation in David N. Arseneault‎ for his middle name being Norman? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 08:31, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Arseneault move

For your recent move of David N. Arseneault, his current profile at Grinnell lists him as "DAVID ARSENEAULT JR.", as does their press release of his hiring. Also, David N. Arseneault has only 8 hits on Google News vs 99 for David Arsenault Jr., so WP:COMMONNAME would seem to be "David Arseneault Jr." Would you reconsider moving the article back? Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 08:38, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

2009–10 Murray State Racers men's basketball team

Hi. I reverted the article to an older version because a couple anonymous users got in there and put in a bunch of bogus AP rankings for the team's season. You had made two good edits to the article since then. As I'm not that great with Wikipedia formatting, I thought I'd let you know, so that you could go back and redo those edits, if you see fit. Thanks. AJC3fromS2K (talk) 05:20, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

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Jonathan Gibson

Hi. I'm curious as to why you didn't simply cite this source for Jonathan Gibson's middle name in the first place? You are a long-time, experienced editor, yet you still make unsourced additions with no explanation or edit summary. I have reverted you a number of times in the past for adding middle names without citing a source. I left your middle name addition to Jarrod Uthoff after I google searched "Jarrod Reed Uthoff" and found this, which is where I assume you found "Reed". The most common source for NBA middle names is basketball-reference, so when you added "Mychal" to Jonathan Gibson, I checked basketball-reference and could not verify that, so I reverted you. It's quite simple: cite your source. Link it in the edit summary at least – I shouldn't have to inform you of this, but here we are. I don't particularly deem scoresway.com to be the most reliable source, but I will leave it for now. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:12, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@DaHuzyBru: - I was a bit lazy and assumed a google search would be good enough. By the way, the University of Iowa website also lists Uthoff's full name. I also sent these changes to basketball-reference. Arbor to SJ (talk) 05:09, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

NBA Draft templates

Hey, there is no consensus to add be,ownthe second round here. This is huge template creep in my opinion. I think you need to get consensus for this because we already have problems with people adding non-NBA players to draft articles. Rikster2 (talk) 13:31, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Randy Quaid

Please do not change his name. [1] Enigma^msg 21:57, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Randy Quaid's photo

I think the image Gerdta used to replace the previous image was quite a bit more accurate than the photo you reinstated, given the videos he shows on his Twitter account (have you see those? Weird!). KDS4444 (talk) 02:39, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

SVG files

To remove the white background, all you need to do is click the white background and hit delete. There may be several of them so you'll have to remove all of them. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 17:41, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Corkythehornetfan, I was using Inkscape to convert to SVG. Are you referring to that? Arbor to SJ (talk) 17:50, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes. That is the program I use, as well. Let me know if you have any questions. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 17:59, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Also, when you convert a jpg or png to svg, there will be extra layers that need to be removed as well. Usually the last layer of each color is the best/cleanest layer. You can see the example by viewing the SMC logo: old version vs. the new version. I would also recommend optimizing the files which will reduce the coding. Although it's old, it is the same instructions, but see here for more on optimizing files. Corkythehornetfan (ping me) 18:07, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

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C. J. Wallace

In the future, please go through Wikipedia:Requested moves before moving an existing page with incoming links to create a disambiguation page. Consensus is required. bd2412 T 03:07, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Please review Joe Ikhinmwin page

Hi. I noticed that your worked on Justin Robinson (basketball, born 1987) page. Can you please review and move to the main area Joe Ikhinmwin article? Thank you in advance. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 22:43, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Category:Alt-right writers

I wonder if Richard Spencer (alt-right writer) would be accepted by editors? In ictu oculi (talk) 11:17, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Related to which FYI Talk:Baked_Alaska_(entertainer), maybe you could take a look at this one too.No longer listed on WP:RM bit will inevitably end up back there when options are narrowed. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:08, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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Question regarding Jim Bartko reference

Hey, Arbor to SJ. I have a question about an edit you made to Jim Bartko. I noticed that this [2] link, which you added is a 404 error page, and I was just wondering what the intended target was there. Thanks for taking the time for reading my question, and as well as in advance for your response. Boomer Vial^{Happy Holidays! • Contribs} 01:39, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Boomer Vial, that link was to Fresno State's official biography of Bartko. I only learned today he resigned from Fresno State, and I've provided an archived link to fix the 404 issue. Arbor to SJ (talk) 07:46, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for doing so. I don't really have the time right now to go digging for the reference, so cheers. Boomer Vial^{Happy Holidays! • Contribs} 16:08, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ken Barlow (meteorologist)

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C. E. Bennett

I haven't undone this, but can I please ask that in future you discuss these sorts of moves? Initialisations is a bit of a tricky area, because it was usual for newspapers in this time period to refer to 90-95% of people by their initials (provided they had more than one), but subsequent sources have not necessarily followed suit. (WP:COMMONNAME refers to their common name now as much as their common name then, which is why we have an article at William Shakespeare and not William Shakspere.) It's often been an issue of "house style" - if you've read the People's Choice series on New South Wales elections, for example, they've made the decision to refer to everybody by initials, even people who are very clearly known by other names. In newspapers of the time you will see lots of references to R. G. Menzies, S. M. Bruce, and J. A. Lyons. In general, where there is not overwhelming evidence that someone is known even today by their initialisation, we have tended to go with either first name or full name. Frickeg (talk) 04:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Good advice, I've reverted my move. Arbor to SJ (talk) 07:50, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Bloomberg Radio affiliates

In the future please DO NOT delete the list of affiliates as you did in Bloomberg Radio. It is relevant to the article and is not considered a violation of Wikipedia: Is not a directory because the fact that ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, iHeartRadio, Entercom Communications, Univision etc... etc.. all have separate articles listing their owned and operated and independent affiliated stations. Next time please check first by leaving a message on the talk page of the article you wish to edit otherwise if you don't you could be marked as a vandal and have your editing privileges either temporarily or permanently revoke which is something I don't wish to see happen to you. Thank you for your understanding and compliance. YborCityJohn (talk) 18:11, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I'll make sure to go to the talk page first, but I was mainly concerned that it was unsourced. Arbor to SJ (talk) 18:43, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Florida Gators logos

I noticed that you deleted the gator head logo from a bunch of University of Florida sports articles today and replaced it with a wordmark script "Gators". The only UF sports team that uses that wordmark is the football team, which uses it on their helmets. Using it on articles for other Gator sports programs simply doesn't make sense. And as per the WP:Logos, there really wasn't any reason to remove the main UF athletics logo in the first place. What policy / guideline that supports your edit summary contention that the logo should only be used on top level articles? (BTW, the Florida State sports articles are a different case, as they all use that wordmark.) Zeng8r (talk) 23:10, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Zeng8r, thank you for your concern. I was wondering why every Florida team article used variants of the Gator head logo with accompanying text, while other individual college sports teams articles generally do not use copyrighted logos. In contrast, I am on the websites of Florida teams such as the baseball team and volleyball team and notice an all-caps "GATORS" wordmark used on each site, with the same font as File:Florida Gators wordmark.svg. Would that be a better choice. considering that the wordmark is also used on Florida jerseys such as for softball? Arbor to SJ (talk) 23:54, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Instead of edit warring and per WP:BRD, you stop reverting after your edits have been reverted and discuss it. There is nothing wrong with having a sports-specific logo on the sub articles. It doesn't violate guidelines. In fact, Dirtlawyer had a pretty long discussion about this back in December 2015. The full FFD is listed here. Corky 00:13, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

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Addition of YouTube links

I notice you've been adding a lot of links to songs (video and audio) found on YouTube. While some appear to properly licensed, others do not. WP:SONG#Lyrics and music videos includes: "When linking to a music video on YouTube use only the videos that have been uploaded by the musician(s), the record companies, or Vevo. The official Billboard.com YouTube channel can also be used." It also lists several companies. The YouTube page for the "Breathless" video indicates "The Corrs - Breathless [Official Video]", but includes "Content does not belong to me" and a general fair use statement. The video itself has no credits or other identifiers. (There is a "The Corrs (official)" channel, which has different videos than "The Corrs" channel.) How do you determine which are legit? —Ojorojo (talk) 18:10, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Whoops! Didn't notice that. Basically, I try to use only properly licensed videos, from the record labels, the artists' official Youtube channels, or those "auto generated" youtube channels with names "[artist] - Topic". Arbor to SJ (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I've seen several "[artist] Topic" videos that were uploaded by private parties and not Vevo or the record companies. For example, one "Fly" video included in "Sugar Ray – Topics" has "The lyrics are as accurate as I could make them. It took me a while to do this video so I hope you like it. please comment and subscribe!!! ATTENTION: I do not own, or had any part in the making of this song. All credit goes to Sugar ray and Supercat. The video and lyrics are of my material but not the song." Rather than rely on "Topic" or a similar designation, WP:SONG should be followed, i.e., "use only the videos that have been uploaded by the musician(s), the record companies, or Vevo". For musicians, it may be harder to tell, but videos specifically marked "Vevo" or "Provided to YouTube by Warner Music Group", "Provided to YouTube by Sony Music Entertainment", etc., are a safer bet. Also, if a video isn't discussed in the article, the link should be in the External links section rather than the infobox. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:05, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

True, because "[artist] Topic" channels display not only the "official uploads" but related fan-made videos too, because those channels try to show every video related to the topical artists. Arbor to SJ (talk) 17:36, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

You might be interested in this discussion regarding music samples. However, it applies to non-free content and not links to Vevo or record company uploads on YouTube. —Ojorojo (talk) 21:47, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

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Bok bier

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My mistake. Missed the links to parents in Infobox. Tapered (talk) 04:43, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Page move from Jaggi Vasudev to Sadhguru

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Kenny George

I removed the Professional career section in Kenny George Wikipedia entry, because it is not accurate. Leoisiah (talk) 00:19, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: 3Pac

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Mario

Hi. I know it's a long time ago, but I wonder if you recall why Mario is the primary instead of the dab page. It seems that such a common given name would outweigh the name of a (even well-known) video game character. Your comment in the move log for Mario (video game character) to Mario says moved ... over redirect (sorry, for now i can't make the main Mario title a disambig page, will go to Req. Moves page to do so). It was mentioned at WT:WikiProject Video games/Archive 79 § List of Mario media and List of sports games in the Mario series. Thanks. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 02:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

I do not recall at the moment, but I did this this move discussion from 2014 that ended with no consensus to retitle the Mario page. Arbor to SJ (talk) 06:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Tell Me Something Copyright Compliant

Hi, Arbor to SJ. Yes, I'd agree that better audio quality is obviously something to be aimed for (although conversely, looking in the visual domain, Wikipedia seems to go out of its way to reduce image quality to the lowest possible level). But, as far as I can see, the link you have restored here is to a source that may be in breach of Wikipedia copyright policy. Your edit summary also says "... and are properly licensed" What’s your view of the bland statement “Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group”? You're saying the wording at this one is definitely not "properly licensed"? Perhaps the wording of WP:YOUTUBE needs to be made more explicit? I've raised the question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Any thoughts at all? Martinevans123 (talk) 20:00, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Can you provide a reference?

Can you please provide a reference, or an example, of Mancini being credited as Henry Nicola Mancini?

Thank you very kindly.

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Have you seen Mancini's ASCAP rejection letter from 1957?

Here's the link...

https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/latest/mancini-rejection-letter/

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