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16:19, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #294

This Sunday! Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference (updated speakers + schedule)

Sunday January 14: Wikipedia Day NYC 2018

Part of Wikipedia's global 17th birthday celebration, Wikipedia Day NYC 2018 at Ace Hotel will include a mini-conference of scheduled panels as well as unconference style talks and discussions proposed by attendees on the day of the event. We are very excited to announce speakers such as Jason Scott (Internet Archive), Jackie Koerner (Visiting Scholar, Wiki Ed), and Andrew Lih (Wikimedia DC), as well as a fantastic line-up of panels that highlight projects and issues of relevance to the Wikimedia NYC community.

See Wikipedia Day NYC 2018 speakers + schedule

And there will be cake.

We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

10:00am - 6:30 pm at Ace Hotel, 20 West 29th Street in Manhattan

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk) 02:22, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

18:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #295

The Signpost: 16 January 2018

23:55, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #296

Your signature

Please be aware that your signature uses deprecated <font> tags, which are causing Obsolete HTML tags lint errors.

You are encouraged to change

~ <font color="#F09">Amory</font><font color="#555"><small> ''([[User:Amorymeltzer|u]] • [[User talk:Amorymeltzer|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Amorymeltzer|c]])''</small></font> : ~ Amory (utc)

to

~ <span style="color:#F09">Amory</span><small style="color:#555"> ''([[User:Amorymeltzer|u]] • [[User talk:Amorymeltzer|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Amorymeltzer|c]])''</small> : ~ Amory (utc)

Note that the #555 color affects only the parentheses and bullets; link colors override colors set outside wikilinks. (Wikipedia also replaced the talk page "link" because pages don't link to themselves.) If you want the #555 color to work in the wikilinks, do it this way:

~ <span style="color:#F09">Amory</span><small style="color:#555"> ''([[User:Amorymeltzer|<i style="color:#555">u</i>]] • [[User talk:Amorymeltzer|<i style="color:#555">t</i>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Amorymeltzer|<i style="color:#555">c</i>]])''</small> : ~ Amory (utc)

This markup fits exactly within the limit of 255 characters. —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:18, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Hey thanks! Appreciate the note, and the extra effort on the link color. That's just for me — I find the black when I'm on my own talk just too harsh. ~ Amory (utc) 12:29, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for updating your signature! —Anomalocaris (talk) 18:35, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

17:07, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2018).

Administrator changes

added None
removed BlurpeaceDana boomerDeltabeignetDenelson83GrandioseSalvidrim!Ymblanter

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC has closed with a consensus that candidates at WP:RFA must disclose whether they have ever edited for pay and that administrators may never use administrative tools as part of any paid editing activity, except when they are acting as a Wikipedian-in-Residence or when the payment is made by the Wikimedia Foundation or an affiliate of the WMF.
  • Editors responding to threats of harm can now contact the Wikimedia Foundation's emergency address by using Special:EmailUser/Emergency. If you don't have email enabled on Wikipedia, directly contacting the emergency address using your own email client remains an option.

Technical news

  • A tag will now be automatically applied to edits that blank a page, turn a page into a redirect, remove/replace almost all content in a page, undo an edit, or rollback an edit. These edits were previously denoted solely by automatic edit summaries.

Arbitration


I was thinking about my comment about the merits of a redirct or redlink for the genera on the Helochelydridae. Rather than leaving them unlinked to prevent the circular linking, a pipe could be used for force a redlink, e.g. Solemys. What do you think?   Jts1882 | talk  16:06, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

You'll notice that doesn't work. What it actually does is take the user to a nonexistent article titled Redlink only and encourage the creation of it. Tricking users isn't a good or helpful thing to do. I missed in my quick, initial review that a number of pages actually link to these genera, which I think helps bolster the possibility that someone will be disappointed there isn't a specific article on the genus and might start one. ~ Amory (utc) 16:11, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
Good point. I hadn't thought that though properly. I wasn't aware of the {{R with possibilities}} which is a better solution.   Jts1882 | talk  16:17, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 5 February 2018

20:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for fixing the indefinite block that I accidentally extended 2601:5C0:106:E9F3:E2F8:47FF:FE0C:183C to while yanking talk page access away from that user. I appreciate it very much :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:54, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

What does All for Nothing have to do with Jeremy McKinnon? Robo042 (talk) 05:39, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

@Robo042: I understand that you feel this is incorrect, but as there is no article on the band proper, redirecting it to point to one of its founding members. The brief consensus at Redirects for Discussion was that Jeremy McKinnon was a reasonable target, and as I noted on your talk page, your edits to the redirect were improper. Furthermore, please do not edit closed, archived discussions. If you wish to challenge an outcome or my interpretation of the discussion, you can try WP:Deletion review. ~ Amory (utc) 11:53, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Jeremy McKinnon is not one of it’s founding members. Jeremy was in a ska group that put out 0 albums and could not be considered noteworthy by even the barest of standards. There is, however, an actual band called All For Nothing that has nothing to do with Jeremy that has put out 5 albums and 1 ep since 2004 and has done several international tours. Try. Again. https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_for_Nothing_(Nederlandse_band) Robo042 (talk) 23:29, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

I've noted the source of your creation for proper copyright attribution. ~ Amory (utc) 01:47, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

XFDcloser

Just wanted to give you a heads up that your use of XFDcloser is creating broken section redirects in edit summaries due to inserting a space (or, more technically, a "_") between the "#" and the section name. (See the edit summary for the deletion of Carrot geyser for reference.) I don't use this tool so I'm not sure how to fix that, but I know of some administrators who also use XFDCloser; my guess is that it's some sort of configuration issue. Steel1943 (talk) 15:33, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Looks like this issue is also occurring with the automatic placement of {{Old RfD}} as well: diff. Steel1943 (talk) 15:45, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up, I actually just caught this today. I'm about to raise it with @Evad37:, but as best I can tell from a cursory search, it's just me? Ugh. No idea why. ~ Amory (utc) 15:48, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
Taken care of. ~ Amory (utc) 01:30, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

21:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

IP Block evasion

Hey, I was passing through recent changes and I have a hunch this IP 86.180.153.175 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) is block evading. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 09:26, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

And it appears as if my hunch was right, based on the text below. They were also blocked HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 09:33, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Good catch, and glad it got caught! ~ Amory (utc) 11:06, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

WP:RFPP

Sorry, accidental misclick. Alex Shih (talk) 18:40, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

👍 ~ Amory (utc) 18:47, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

22:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 February 2018

Thanks

Thanks for the quick & thorough cleanup job relating to ultimate (sport) ! --JBL (talk) 13:25, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Danke! The real tragedy is that my tea got cold... ~ Amory (utc) 14:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

CSD

Hey, yeah i was guessing that was not correct. But that page was never an article and redirects to the national basketball team, makes no sense, tbh. Kante4 (talk) 21:09, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

The team article mentions Hamza Ruhezamihigo as a member of the current roster, that seems to make sense to me. Without knowing anything about the player or the team, it might be reasonable for the redirect to be deleted per WP:REDLINK, but G8 is definitely not the way to do that; WP:RFD if you think it'd be better gone. ~ Amory (utc) 21:46, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Like i said i was not sure what would fit. ;) Thanks again. Kante4 (talk) 22:01, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

GOCE February 2018 news

Guild of Copy Editors February 2018 News

Welcome to the February 2018 GOCE newsletter in which you will find Guild updates since the December edition. We got to a great start for the year, holding the backlog at nine months. 100 requests were submitted in the first 6 weeks of the year and were swiftly handled with an average completion time of 9 days.

Coordinator elections: In December, coordinators for the first half of 2018 were elected. Jonesey95 remained as lead coordinator and Corrine, Miniapolis and Tdslk as assistant coordinators. Keira1996 stepped down as assistant coordinator and was replaced by Reidgreg. Thanks to all who participated!

End of year reports were prepared for 2016 and 2017, providing a detailed look at the Guild's long-term progress.

January drive: We set out to remove April, May, and June 2017 from our backlog and all December 2017 Requests (a total of 275 articles). As with previous years, the January drive was an outstanding success and by the end of the month all but 57 of these articles were cleared. Officially, of the 38 who signed up, 21 editors recorded 259 copy edits (490,256 words).

February blitz: This one-week copy-editing blitz ran from 11 through 17 February, focusing on Requests and the last articles tagged in May 2017. At the end of the week there were only 14 pending requests, with none older than 20 days. Of the 11 who signed up, 10 editors completed 35 copy edits (98,538 words).

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Miniapolis, Corinne, Tdslk, and Reidgreg.

To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:59, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Clearing up (I hope) a small miscommunication.

I have just one small point to clear up in relation to our conversation at User talk:CASSIOPEIA. It doesn't really concern CASSIOPEIA, and I get the feeling that she (or he?) doesn't want discussion to continue there, so I am posting here. You said "I don't know where you get three years from. This is not a consistently active editor since 2015." I evidently didn't express myself clearly, resulting in your misunderstanding me. When I wrote "the sole user of the IP address in question during the last three years " I didn't mean that this editor had been using the IP address for three years, I just meant that this editor was the only person to have used the IP address at any time since three years ago. Sorry that I evidently didn't make that clear. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:45, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification! ~ Amory (utc) 17:59, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

19:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Sex

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Sex. Legobot (talk) 04:26, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction. Legobot (talk) 04:29, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Games on Wikipedia

Hello. I’ve come across a couple of accounts, User:Kitsunewarlock (quite possibly also using IP:216.7.144.60) and User:Kyrt-Ryder, who seem to have been trying to use their userpages to conduct a role playing game in 2013, although it didn’t get very far. It’s the first one I've seen for a while and I’ve tagged their pages but I thought it would be worth highlighting them to a sysop. I’m hesitant to suggest blocking because it was in 2013 and it seems unlikely they’ll come back. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 14:06, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Nice find! Your U5s have all been done, I think it's fine to leave things there. Seems to be folks from the Bleach Gotei site, which is basically what you describe. No need to block — should they come back, no reason they can't be productive — but thanks for picking it up! I can't find evidence of it, but I think there used to be more of this sort of thing a decade plus ago; talk pages were much more forum-y. ~ Amory (utc) 14:47, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2018).

Administrator changes

added Lourdes
removed AngelOfSadnessBhadaniChris 73CorenFridayMidomMike V
† Lourdes has requested that her admin rights be temporarily removed, pending her return from travel.

Guideline and policy news

  • The autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) is scheduled to end on 14 March 2018. The results of the research collected can be read on Meta Wiki.
  • Community ban discussions must now stay open for at least 24 hours prior to being closed.
  • A change to the administrator inactivity policy has been proposed. Under the proposal, if an administrator has not used their admin tools for a period of five years and is subsequently desysopped for inactivity, the administrator would have to file a new RfA in order to regain the tools.
  • A change to the banning policy has been proposed which would specify conditions under which a repeat sockmaster may be considered de facto banned, reducing the need to start a community ban discussion for these users.

Technical news

  • CheckUsers are now able to view private data such as IP addresses from the edit filter log, e.g. when the filter prevents a user from creating an account. Previously, this information was unavailable to CheckUsers because access to it could not be logged.
  • The edit filter has a new feature contains_all that edit filter managers may use to check if one or more strings are all contained in another given string.

Miscellaneous

Obituaries

  • Bhadani (Gangadhar Bhadani) passed away on 8 February 2018. Bhadani joined Wikipedia in March 2005 and became an administrator in September 2005. While he was active, Bhadani was regarded as one of the most prolific Wikipedians from India.

17:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Beb

Thank you for the notification, Amory but I think you misunderstood the intent of that article. I could be totally wrong, but the context is urban slang: Beb is an anagram for babe. Often used to describe your love towards a human being in a platonic relationship, and has nothing to do with Babi_(mythology), although I can see why such a thought would come to mind. See Urban Dictionary which explains the words "beb" & "bebs". Also, the SPA sourced the article to Discord which takes you to a site you have to join. I researched further and discovered that it's a gamer site for the Boosted Animals Community. Atsme📞📧 14:45, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

@Atsme: Yes indeed, but I was trying to point you to the page's full history. For 13 years, it was a redirect, until today when it was replaced with the content you describe. That content was clearly A11, but that's a hijacking of the page. That's why I declined the speedy, to not throw the baby out with the bathwater, and pointed it to where it can be useful. I'm open to an RfD, but that's neither here nor there. ~ Amory (utc) 14:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
I read the history of the page and prior redirect, and read the article it was directed to, and there is nothing in that article that mentions "Beb" or anything even close. Geb (with a "G") was the father of Osiris. In the original article 13 yrs ago, it falsely claimed that Beb is the "first-born son of Osiris according to the Book of the Dead. Little else is known about him. Alternative: Bebti, Baba, Babu. The only son of Osiris was Horus, a god of the sky, so for 13+/- years, Beb has remained in our encyclopedia as a total hoax and deserves to be speedy deleted, please? Atsme📞📧 15:31, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that's why I pointed it to Babi (mythology); interwiki links and some random searching suggest Beb was used to refer to this God. I just realized I didn't open an RfD as I had intended, so I'll go do that now! ~ Amory (utc) 15:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
@Atsme: It's listed at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_March_5#Beb if you want to join in. ~ Amory (utc) 15:58, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thx. Atsme📞📧 15:59, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Just stopping by to say Thank You!! I hope my comments didn't come across as "stern" because that was not my intention. I was actually on a roll at NPP helping to do what I could to reduce the backlog within my window of opportunity, and still have time to do the reseach some of those articles require. Anyway, it was a pleasure to meet your acquaintence. Atsme📞📧 02:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

No worries — we're all just doin' our best! ~ Amory (utc) 02:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your thoughtful and well-reasoned close at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2018_February_24#AR-15. Best regards, K.e.coffman (talk) 01:30, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks — it's not often RfD gets contentious or complicated discussions! ~ Amory (utc) 02:13, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Amorymeltzer, thank you for pulling the copyright material out of the AR-15 article. Would you please restore the associated discussions? We should be able to replace the offending text with a link and keep the discussion parts which aren't problematic. Thanks Springee (talk) 13:34, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

@Springee: I didn't remove any of the discussion, just the text. I did revdel the offending diffs, so you won't see any changes, but the discussion texts are all still there. Perhaps you are referring to the archiving removal that Thewolfchild made? For that text, you can see Talk:AR-15 style rifle/Archive 1. ~ Amory (utc) 13:40, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
Ok, I was confused because I saw some of my edits were stricken from the history (the edit had a strikeout line through it and you can't click on the edit diff). I assumed that meant the material was removed. Sorry for the confusion.Springee (talk) 13:46, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
No worries. The way revdel works is you have to remove the text from every version of the page that held the content. So, while you didn't introduce any copyright violations, you did edit the page while the content was there. Once I removed the text, every diff between the introduction of the offending material and the removal has to be revision deleted. Hope that clears things up! ~ Amory (utc) 15:08, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Brock Pierce controversial information edit

The edit made on Brock Pierce's page regarding controversial info should have had this cited:

[1] I am certain that I cited that article when editing. Did you not see the citation there? Was it insufficient?

71.125.27.181 (talk) 00:27, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

You did not, no. You can make an edit request on the talk page if you'd like; that's the proper place to discuss inclusion of controversial material. ~ Amory (utc) 01:52, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


I see, maybe I did the citation wrong then. Which talk page? For the one I intended to edit? I read the guidelines for editing articles of living people, and tried to be careful not to include anything that wasn't verifiable, is such an edit something that requires discussion or permission at that point? 71.125.27.181 (talk) 02:03, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
No, but since you didn't include any references your addition was unsourced, so an editor reverted it. If you post at Talk:Brock Pierce and get consensus for the edits, there should be no problem conforming to WP:BLP. ~ Amory (utc) 02:37, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Re

User:Dingdongblop has been blocked because of the use of multiple accounts. Are you sure to keep this sandbox? --O1lI0 (talk) 13:22, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't "want" to keep the sandbox, but WP:CSD#G1 explicitly states Nor does it apply to user sandboxes or other pages in the user namespace; you can even see that the template creates a message stating that fact. One could make a G5 argument, but it's tenuous at best. The page isn't causing any harm, it will help identify future socks, and we've already caused more server load talking about it than deleting it would have saved. ~ Amory (utc) 13:43, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, I got it. Thanks.--O1lI0 (talk) 13:48, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Unlinking GameZone

@Amorymeltzer: The article GameZone was recently deleted and so has left >500 redlinks throughout the enwiki. Since my recent mistake with Ultimate Frisbee I would like to check before doing this massive unlink (About my contribs - I started then realised that they weren't false-positives and cancelled) [Username Needed] 11:35, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Well, the deletion is certainly rational and "permanent" this time, so it's a reasonable unlinking; plus, the wikiproject is aware of the article's deletion. I'm not sure how... necessary it is, but it seems fine (if you're into that sort of thing) and the ones you've done so far look good. One thing I would do, though, is start a convo on WT:VG about whether they want to keep it in their reviews, given its deleted status; I imagine so, given the comment in the AfD, but still. ~ Amory (utc) 11:51, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I've gone ahead and started that conversation. ~ Amory (utc) 12:01, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Masahiro Sakuri

Im sorry for bothering you but I have some trivia on Masahiro Sakuri and you seem to have the ability to edit his page. So could you please add "As for the future of the Super Smash Bros series, Nintendo and HAL laboratory's president Satoru Iwata, during Nintendo's E3 2005 press conference, promised an online iteration of the game would come to Nintendo's video game console wii. However Sakuri did not know the game was being made prior to E3 and was told by Iwata that if he did not work on the project they would simply remake Super Smash Bros. Melee but with online capabilitys." Padacuw (talk) 20:25, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Hey there Padacuw, thanks for reaching out. If you'd like to request an edit, why don't you post on Talk:Masahiro Sakurai? That way other editors can comment on the talkpage and can help make the edit. It'd be good to cite a reliable source for it, too. ~ Amory (utc) 00:17, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for granting me the page patroller rights on WP. I love the note at the top of this talk page about the kids being cute-I had the same problem for 20-ears and 6 kids myself. You are doing the right thing! BTW, I work on articles related to children's health and if you ever want to help, let me know. Best Regards, Barbara   11:40, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

👍 ~ Amory (utc) 11:41, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

19:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Vicfarland

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wesley_Duncan&diff=830062157&oldid=582234395

You are right, it's John Vick. I've added that but as I'm not familiar with the templates I'm also letting you know here in case the template needs to be changed now. Alexis Jazz (talk) 00:28, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks — took a little digging but it was pretty clear. Seems innocent enough, at least as far as intent goes. Left him a message regarding COI/PAID policy, we'll see how it shakes out. ~ Amory (utc) 01:07, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

Hi Amory, thank you so much for replying to my request, even if it was a decline. I've only used wiki for info, and just started to learn about editing. It was more complicated than I had expected. First I did send a change request that was declined. Then I tried asking editors to help me edit incorrect information and provide new updates as the current article is seriously outdated. Someone was kind enough to send me links which I learned that I can be an editor (though haven't gotten to the part about conflict of interest). I am being asked by the agency to ensure the information online (be it wiki or other sites) are correct, and can support the info by 3rd party links, but I'm not sure why the 3rd party is trusted more than the official site. I'll need to read up on the links you've provided. I just want to make sure the article has the most updated and correct info, and am really feeling lost. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kievew (talkcontribs) 13:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

That's okay! I know how complicated it can seem, especially when you start by wading into policy-heavy issues. Again, don't ever hesitate to ask me for help. You can also put {{Help me}} on your talk page and someone will be by eventually to help out. You should definitely read the links I shared on your page — Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure — and follow those procedures before editing further.
I think a good place to look at is Help:Contents — it's got a lot of links to helpful information for getting started. Regarding the sources, try reading Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, it should break it down for you. Basically, third-party sources are verifiably neutral. Some sources from the subject themself are often okay for some basic biographical information, but third-party sources are always better for an encyclopedia. ~ Amory (utc) 14:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

your recent deletion

Copied from User talk:Amorymeltzer/your recent deletion Hello Amorymeltzer,

sorry to "hijack" your talk page like this but I wanted a place that is a bit separated from the rest.

You recently delete the page User:Gammastorm, and rightfully so (your reasons were quite solid). The person that this page belonged to is a friend of ours, who, sadly, suffers from a certain mental illness. He usually spammed us almost daily with mails that contained similar nonsense than his Wikipedia page, but because of that, we knew that he was okay... If you check his github page, github.com/gammastorm, you will see similar nonsense, sprinkled with some simple JavaScript applets and some simple fractal code, similar to what was on his user page... He was a quite smart guy some time ago until his illness took over...

The thing is, he recently stopped sending these emails, at around the same time his page here was deleted (3 weeks ago), and we are all a bit worried. I wonder if it would be possible for you to somehow send us the latest version of his user page (either on wikipedia, or on a pastebin service or something, with a short timeout so that it gets deleted automatically), we just want to see if we find anything in it about how/where he currently is. No need to restore the page, or unblock him, we just like to know about his most recent thoughts.

Thanks for your time

--Darkstar (talk) 20:09, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks also

for pointing out my glitch with a user permission. I meant well but I was (unusual for me) not aware of the current discussion. Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:56, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

No worries — there are a lot of conversations ~ Amory (utc) 00:39, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:David Ogden Stiers

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:David Ogden Stiers. Legobot (talk) 04:30, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

15:03, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Elliott Review has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Elliott Review. Thanks! Jbh Talk 14:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Thanks but, uh, not mine ;) ~ Amory (utc) 14:55, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Hmmm... It looks like your name was in {{AFC submission}} as the creator. I had that happen once when I submitted a draft for a new user. I changed u=Amorymeltzer u=Joelionheart so AFCH will notify the right person. I will drop a notice on the author's page. Jbh Talk 19:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Yeah — product of me hittin' the button to be helpful but not doing the work to make sure it gets followed up on. ~ Amory (utc) 19:41, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed article creation trial/Request for comment on permanent implementation. Legobot (talk) 04:33, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations from WP:STiki!

The Anti-Vandalism + STiki Barnstar

Congratulations, Amorymeltzer! You're receiving this barnstar because you recently crossed the 1,000 classification threshold using STiki. We thank you both for your contributions to Wikipedia at-large and your use of the tool. We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (talk) 13:58, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom. Legobot (talk) 04:30, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

In response to my vandalism report of User:192.169.226.73

With all due respect, Wikipedia may not permanently ban IP address vandals but they do permanently ban open proxies, if you had read my report full through you would see that I stated that I was able to determine that it is an open proxy and that's why it should be permanently banned. YborCityJohn (talk) 22:29, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

Completely missed this last night, sorry! ANI link for the archives. ~ Amory (utc) 19:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

RfA discussions

Be bold

I can't see Davey2010 objecting to you moving the thread on Oppose #4 back to the main page, it's two seasoned RfA nominators having a civilised discussion, not the usual badgering. (Even if I do say so myself) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:39, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Thought about it, but, eh, I gave my opinion, and would sooner leave it to a 'crat to unclerk the clerkin'. At least until someone else agrees with me. ~ Amory (utc) 19:01, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Amorymeltzer & Ritchie333 - I obviously have no objections to it being removed back, I know Opposes at times tend to go from civil discussions to derailments so in this case erred on the side of caution but as I said I have no objections if anyone wants to move it back, Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 19:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Actually, yeah, I just meandered over there and saw Drmies' post on #3; seems there's some agreement so I'll move 'em both back. ~ Amory (utc) 19:05, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
 Done Despite two edit conflicts... ~ Amory (utc) 19:13, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

20:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

AdminStats fix

Re Question about AdminStats: You were right! It wasn't showing former admins. This is now fixed (phab:T190496). Incidentally, we are no longer showing admins who made zero actions in the time period, but I think that's okay. Just wanted to let you know :) Cheers MusikAnimal talk 16:16, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Oh man oh man this makes me happy! Seriously, thanks, really appreciate that whole commit. ~ Amory (utc) 16:34, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

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Shared IP

The recent message you placed on a talk page is a shared IP address for an educational institution. It's highly unlikely the intended recipient of you message will ever see it. I put a header template on the talk page to let others know of the shared IP status.. We got blocked for a whole year once due to vandalism by summer camp students who rented our facilities, but our ISP has changed a number of times since then. I'm former "caretaker" to the wikipedia page for our institution, but am semi-retired from wikipedia and no longer regularly edit under my username. --199.191.107.18 (talk) 15:09, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes indeed. One way in which the warnings are useful is it helps make clear a pattern of repeated vandalism from an IP, shared or otherwise. As you note, many schools are indeed blocked for long periods of time, and a cavalcade of warnings is a good sign of a block to come. At the very least, warnings may deter students who are actively vandalizing in a repeated fashion. Regardless, thanks for the note and for the template tag. If you'd like, I can block the IP to prevent further malfeasance, although the history from this address is not so bad. ~ Amory (utc) 15:16, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Signpost issue 4 – 29 March 2018

Traveller (typeface)

Hi, re this edit - please fix the error message that you have left. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Word, thanks! ~ Amory (utc) 18:51, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:13, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Maybe Electronic band structure? -- RoySmith (talk) 00:57, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Thought about it, but it just didn't seem to fit. Didn't really discuss it, and is a little WP:SURPRISEing; the kind of redirect I could see ending up at RfD as "Vague, not mentioned in the target" in six months. ~ Amory (utc) 01:23, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Does this require revocation of talk page access? 89.240.143.247 (talk) 16:31, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes and done. Thanks for the diligence on this one, Talk:Viktor Orbán must've been annoying. ~ Amory (utc) 16:34, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
No problem, that's life :) Thanks for wielding your mop. 89.240.143.247 (talk) 16:35, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thanks for protecting Dove Cameron! ⌤TheMitochondriaBoi⌤(☎) 16:39, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

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Los Angeles Dodgers - acidentally removing of RPP

Hi Amory, Greetings to you. I was the one who reported for RPP and would like to restore the owner info; however, I think I made wrong diff lines in hist and the page protection tag was removed when I clicked restore button. My apologies. Thank you for restoring it. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 01:20, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2018

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2018).

Administrator changes

added 331dotCordless LarryClueBot NG
removed Gogo DodoPb30SebastiankesselSeicerSoLando

Guideline and policy news

  • Administrators who have been desysopped due to inactivity are now required to have performed at least one (logged) administrative action in the past 5 years in order to qualify for a resysop without going through a new RfA.
  • Editors who have been found to have engaged in sockpuppetry on at least two occasions after an initial indefinite block, for whatever reason, are now automatically considered banned by the community without the need to start a ban discussion.
  • The notability guideline for organizations and companies has been substantially rewritten following the closure of this request for comment. Among the changes, the guideline more clearly defines the sourcing requirements needed for organizations and companies to be considered notable.
  • The six-month autoconfirmed article creation trial (ACTRIAL) ended on 14 March 2018. The post-trial research report has been published. A request for comment is now underway to determine whether the restrictions from ACTRIAL should be implemented permanently.

Technical news

Arbitration

  • The Arbitration Committee is considering a change to the discretionary sanctions procedures which would require an editor to appeal a sanction to the community at WP:AE or WP:AN prior to appealing directly to the Arbitration Committee at WP:ARCA.

Miscellaneous

  • A discussion has closed which concluded that administrators are not required to enable email, though many editors suggested doing so as a matter of best practice.
  • The Foundations' Anti-Harassment Tools team has released the Interaction Timeline. This shows a chronologic history for two users on pages where they have both made edits, which may be helpful in identifying sockpuppetry and investigating editing disputes.

19:28, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hey amory

I was wondering if you could check out my request for NPR rights. I know I don't have all the edits, but I have the time, know everything, and have shown some of the knowledge on some past edits. thanks! StarlightStratosphere (talk) 01:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@StarlightStratosphere: I like and appreciate the enthusiasm, but it is really difficult to judge with only a few edits. As a rule of thumb, we generally like to see >500 mainspace edits to ensure there is enough material to review; you currently have less than a tenth of that. Mz7 said to get more experience; he meant hundreds of edits, not a dozen. More to the point, you've misused a couple of speedy deletion criteria. Don't worry about NPR, just take some and make good edits and you'll be fine. ~ Amory (utc) 01:51, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Amory, I get what you mean about NPR but I did not misuse the speedy deletion. No Pun Intended had no content, so it was a worthless page... StarlightStratosphere (talk) 13:12, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Incorrect. That was a Wikipedia:Soft redirect, and was perfectly valid. WP:CSD#A1 and WP:CSD#A3 are inappropriate for a number of reasons — it was a redirect, not an article, and it was not without context or empty. ~ Amory (utc) 13:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

User:Vandãlism Beetle

Please remove their talk page access. Thanks. 73.38.252.181 (talk) 20:36, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

 Already done by Widr! ~ Amory (utc) 20:38, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello There

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise, he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life. He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful, the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.

Now that you have heard this great legend, you of course know that it MUST be included among the many other great tragedies of the ages, for it's simplicity and effectiveness are to be marveled at. Your decision to remove it was most treasonous indeed. Thank you dually for your time.

-Emakuta — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emakuta (talkcontribs) 16:39, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

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18:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

New page patrol

I'd be happy to. The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Great! I've added the permission, and the template I just spammed your talk page with has some quick tips, so happy patrolling! ~ Amory (utc) 00:30, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the correction on CSD R2. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:02, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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Article Removal

Hello, I was one of the primary contributors to an article that was deleted by you, I missed the opportunity to contribute to the AfD as I do not log on frequently. I suppose there is nothing that can really be done to appeal the delete? This is the first article I have written, perhaps some changes to the article can be made. Jargon777 Leave a message 07:00, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Jargon777: Since it was deleted through WP:AFD, your route should be via WP:DRV, but please read WP:DRVPURPOSE before taking any action. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:34, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, WP:DRV suggests discussing it with the administrator who deleted it first before bringing it there. I don't have time now to update the article as I am overseas, so an alternative is to wait until I have time and then re-submit I suppose, but I imagine that as a live article users may be more willing to contribute. Jargon777 Leave a message 07:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
@Jargon777: Since it was deleted via discussion, the article would have to be substantially different to not be deleted under WP:CSD#G4. If you think it can pass muster, I'd suggest drafting it in your userspace/draftspace first. ~ Amory (utc) 11:55, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
But it seems like the gripe in the discussion was around sources mostly (WP:GNG seems to be the most legitimate criticism brought by users there). I'm not attached too much to the article, but if I come across some better sources to make it meet the criteria should I re-create or go to WP:DRV? Jargon777 Leave a message 01:50, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
DRV should be fine in that case, see WP:DRVPURPOSE item 3. ~ Amory (utc) 10:16, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Revert error

Hi, I think maybe this change was an error?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sasha%20Matthews&diff=836591845

I'm not very experienced here, but those all seem like factual details and clarifications and links to related Wikipedia documents -- maybe it was an "automated" reversion because the topics? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.243.135.9 (talk) 19:31, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey thanks for the heads up, and thanks to Primefac for reverting me — as Gandalf would say, I have no memory of this place! Slip of the finger on a loose keyboard, absolutely my fault. Thanks for the contributions, and really, I'm quite sorry. ~ Amory (utc) 19:42, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
No worries, seems like it happens a lot with HG. Primefac (talk) 19:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I finally decided yesterday that after all these years I'd give it a whirl and see what the fuss was. My work setup has a nasty habit of repeating key and mouse clicks, not a good combo. ~ Amory (utc) 20:04, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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15:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Precious

sysop services

Thank you for thousands of warnings of vandalism including misplaced humor, with a precise "Message re.", for welcoming new users and dealing with articles for creation and deletion, for gnomish cleanup and disambiguation, for "Disagree with something I did? Then undo it!", for missing, - repeating (18 January 2010): you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Haha thanks! I had completely forgotten about my day, thanks for the reminiscence. The sapphire is gorgeous. ~ Amory (utc) 11:14, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

How to accept?

You have given me PC Reviewer rights which all seems OK to me in principle. I do my watchlist fairly diligently each day so I should be able incorporate these pending change reviews as part of that workflow. But what I can't work out from Wikipedia:Pending changes is HOW to accept them. What action do I do?

For example, I can see looking at my watchlist a number of things marked with the "r" and the orange highlight and I have reviewed some of those edits, but they are still appearing as unreviewed in my watchlist. For example, this edit on Thursday Island. Now I've checked that edit, it's OK, I've welcomed the new user with a Project Australia welcome, but it is still showing with the "r" and the highlight in my watchlist. When I look at the diff and the article, I cannot see any button to click to "Accept" it. I look on my Twinkle menu for some accept button but there's nothing there either. Clearly I am missing something. Kerry (talk) 23:26, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Well your problem there is that Thursday Island isn't under pending changes protection; only edits by non-autoconfirmed users to pages under pending changes protection need reviewing. A full list of edits needing review is at Special:PendingChanges; from there, you can click on the "review" link to get the diff page and a little summary box to accept or revert the changes. Also, if you view the history of a page under PCP, you should see different highlighting under edits still needing review, with a little link that says "pending review." ~ Amory (utc) 00:40, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Then I am very confused. It says on Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes that "Articles with pending changes are marked as such in Help:watchlists" which says that it flags edits needing review with red "r". Thursday Island on my watchlist has such a red "r". If it is not the "red r", what am I looking for in my watchlist? Kerry (talk) 05:53, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
You're getting mixed up between pending changes and mw:ORES. The watchlist (and recent changes) use the r to mark an edit with ORES, it has nothing to do with pending changes. A page on your watchlist with a pending edit will be highlighted in red and will be painfully obvious. Try watching one of the pages at Special:PendingChanges, you'll see. ~ Amory (utc) 10:36, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Then I think the documentation on watchlists needs to be updated then, because I don't see that. And, as I receive my watchlist via email notifications, how does it appear? Kerry (talk) 12:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Hmm, yes, Help:Watchlist does use the word "review" to match mw:ORES, which I've now changed. I can't comment on the email, but here's an image (in Italian) of what it looks like on your watchlist. ~ Amory (utc) 13:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Italian? No, too many double consonants: it's Finnish. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 14:24, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
No, it can't be Finnish, I don't see the most common Finnish word "sauna" :-) More seriously, can I suggest a bit more work on the engineering, particularly the UI aspects of this pending-changes system (including Twinkle/email integration), and better documentation before trying to sign more people up to this? From the perspective of someone who uses email notifications, if the notifications messages contained a distinctive "pending changes" phrase, I could create message rules to filter those messages into a separate folder and process them first before the rest of my watchlist, which would improve response time. I don't know if on-wiki watchlists could also be sorted in that way (but it would be beneficial to your system if they could). I can see obvious benefits to better integration and makes the adoption curve a whole lot easier. Kerry (talk) 14:32, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
It's definitely designed around folks who use the on-wiki watchlist, but personally I don't muck about with it for pending changes — so few of the pages on-wiki are PCPd, it's rare they show up on my watchlist. I just peruse Special:PendingChanges and Special:ProblemChanges from time to time, and check out the edits to be helpful. Still, if it's not useful to you, I can just as easily remove it! ~ Amory (utc) 14:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Oof, thanks. I guess I went bleary browsing commons filenames? Need more tea. ~ Amory (utc) 14:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

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Rollback rights

Hello Amorymeltzer, how are you? hope you have an grateful day, could you pls review my contributions as a rollbacker and grant rollback rights permanently with your suggestiona.Thanks, ZI Jony (talk) 20:38, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey ZI Jony, thanks for dropping in. Could you please explain these three reverts from the past week? ~ Amory (utc) 01:20, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Amorymeltzer these three reverts is my mistake, I'll make sure not to happen again. Thanks, ZI Jony (talk) 16:19, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes indeed! Are you able to describe why your reversion of each one was wrong? ~ Amory (utc)
I suppose to check properly what was there in the revision before revent. Thanks, ZI Jony (talk) 17:53, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
I was hoping for some specifics. The first seems valid, or at least is not clearly vandalism; the second was a correct typo fix; and the third was removal of unsourced personal biography information. That's quite a few in just a week, please take a little more caution when reviewing diffs. I've extended rollback for another month; let's check in again then and see how it's going, okay? ~ Amory (utc) 18:41, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your understand about me, I'll more caution in my actions.Thanks, ZI Jony (talk) 19:05, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

AFD

Um, I'm a bit confused, why was this closed as keep? CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 00:27, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

I agree with User:Chrissymad. All 8 !votes are delete and you indicate the result is keep?--Rpclod (talk) 00:29, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Chrissymad: Yech, I hit the wrong button. Thank you for the speedy correction, really appreciate it. ~ Amory (utc) 00:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Also, Chrissy, as long as I've got you here, I won't pretend to make my way over to meta very often so I can't claim to have missed it, but glad to see the global-rollbacker perm. Should make good use of it. ~ Amory (utc) 00:47, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! :) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 01:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

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18:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Musikbot removed a pp-vandalism tag, is tyat normal?

I am not an admin that knows everything about the page protection steps. I have noticed on a page called Box that you protected due to vandalism, Musikbot removed the pp-vandalism tag. Is that normal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aceing Winter Snows Harsh Cold (talkcontribs) 04:46, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

@Aceing Winter Snows Harsh Cold: Yes — although in this case it's a little weird. I pending changes protected that page, but the {{pp-vandalism}} tag I added is technically only applicable for regular protection (semi, full), so MusikBot removed it as incorrect. I've added {{pp-pc1}} so all is right with the world! ~ Amory (utc) 09:49, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, you somehow managed to leave this page completely blank, instead of restoring the redirect. I've fixed it now. — Smjg (talk) 11:28, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks — didn't realize they blanked before nominating. Appreciate it. ~ Amory (utc) 12:29, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Another Todd Howard page to protect?

You were the one who protected Todd Howard (TV personality) because of vandalism related to Todd Howard (video game designer). Todd Howard (basketball) has also seen some vandalism recently, should that one be protected too? (I wasn't sure whether to bring this up directly with an admin or on the article's talk page). (UPDATE: Lower Macungie Township, Lehigh County, Pennsylvania might also be a possible contender for protection.) gupdoo3  3oodpug 20:23, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Nevermind, someone already protected both of them, sorry to bother you. gupdoo3  3oodpug 20:36, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
No problem at all! I got sucked into a TV tropes vortex, sorry I missed 'em. ~ Amory (utc) 20:39, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Pewpewpew fire the semiprot bombs -- ferret (talk) 21:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

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