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Did you know nomination

Hi. I've nominated Talbiseh, an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article here, where you can improve it if you see fit. —Yutsi ^Talk/ Contributions ( 偉特 ) 17:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

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البشاير

Hi, in your experience, is elbashayer.com a reliable news source?—Biosketch (talk) 20:23, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, I really couldn't tell you on this one since I can't read Arabic. It looks kind of like the Panet website and it appears like an unofficial news source. All I could say is I wouldn't recommend using it. You should post a query at the Reliable sources noticeboard. They'll be of better help. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:29, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Arak, Syria

Hello! Your submission of Arak, Syria at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Muboshgu (talk) 15:47, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Arak, Syria

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Emir Talal Arslan / Removal of Talk page content from Princess Zeina Talal Arslan

Thanks for carrying out the move to Talal Arslan as per our naming rules. You also clearly stated that "Al Ameer son moved page Emir Talal Arslan to Talal Arslan over redirect: Continuous reversions to the honorific title "Emir" amounts to vandalism in lieu of discussion on the Talk page regarding this matter: Wikipedia does not use honorifics". This was stamped 01:47, 23 June 2012‎. But unfortunately, User:Tmaromeo reverted your move for the umpteenth time to Emir Talal Arslan by putting the ludicrous comment "Tmaromeo moved page Talal Arslan to Emir Talal Arslan over redirect: "Emir" is the OFFICIAL title given to all members of the "Arslan" family. It appears on their OFFICIAL IDs and passports and by so it is their FULL right to use it." This move back to so-called "Emir" is stamped 10:37, 23 June 2012‎ just 9 hours after your move. And we are back to square 1 despite your cautionary comments. He clearly insists on not abiding by Wikipedia rules regarding honorifics nor with due Wikipedia process of concensus. You comment that "I've moved it back again for the THIRD time and put a temporary block (one month) on new and unregistered users from moving the article." Unfortunately this is insufficient as the only vandalism is by User:Tmaromeo and since he is a registered user, he will continue unabated unless he is severely cautioned and forbidden from unilaterally making moves without concensus. I am starting suspension request regarding this individual's editing rights from all Arslan-related pages. I don't know the mechanics of this as I have never done this to any other editor colleague, but he is clearly a "related party" and an in most probability an "insider" to the family or attached feverishly to archaic family traditions he belongs to. The reason for my concern is accentuated by his removal of talk page materials unilaterally to prevent discussion. For example, I had made a request for a move of Princess Zeina Talal Arslan on her talk page here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Princess_Zeina_Talal_Arslan&diff=498166519&oldid=390724197 But prior to proper discussion of the matter, he removed my note from the talk page by this entry http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Princess_Zeina_Talal_Arslan&diff=498907588&oldid=498478108 As you see, he didn't even bother to explain his move by the generally ludicrous claims of supposed princeliness he makes about such individuals. He just deleted my comment and my request was taken off discussion even prior to being discussed. As a result I sent him a message cautioning him and putting back my request for move for due process in the hope that this time, such comments are not removed until they are addressed positively or negatively. Disruptive edits have also been made on other Arslan pages. Here is his history of edit proving with high certainty that he is a "related party". http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Tmaromeo&offset=&limit=500&target=Tmaromeo He is not interested in Wikipedia at all, except for these Arslan pages that have to state at all costs their princehood. I will put into question all his edits dated 22 and 23 June 2012 onwards. I am studying of the right procedure to request Tmaromeo's suspension from editing any Arslan pages for a year at least. werldwayd (talk) 08:51, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

I tend to agree with you. Tmamromeo is not interested much in Wiki norms or Wikipedia in general and is mainly focused on the Arslans. After I made the temporary move block (which didn't apply to Tmamromeo), he/she moved it the "Emir" version and I reverted him/her for the 4th time and notified the user of my reversion, inviting him/her to discuss the issue at the talk page. My query was ignored and the article was once again moved to the Emir version (!!!). I would advise that Tmamromeo be temporary blocked or topic-banned. You could report his violations at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:18, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for indicating the proper page to go by this process. I have initiated such an action against him on the page Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents under title "Proposed restrictions on User:Tmaromeo" if you care to comment about your experiences with this editor. werldwayd (talk) 12:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Talbiseh

Yngvadottir (talk) 16:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

سلام

أهلاً أخي، رأيتُ للتو مقالتك الجميلة عن قرية حوارين في سوريا، أتساءل فقط، هل تجيد العربية (Do you speak Arabic)؟ أرى أن أصلك عربي، لكن لم أجد ما يدل في صفحتك على أنَّك تتحدث العربية --aad_Dira (talk) 19:47, 26 June 2012 (UTC).

Okay, forget it, I just wanted to invite you to contribute with us to Arabic Wikipedia, because we have a lack of editors there, but it's fine anyway. Good luck in your work on Al-Rastan article akhi. I hope the revolution will end and there is still a Rastan out there :( --aad_Dira (talk) 21:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC).

If you are able to translate from English to Arabic, sure!! why not? :) But for the second part, I think that I prefer to contribute only to Arabic Wikipedia, not because I am biased, but simply because my own language Wikipedia still have a very long to go, while here they have more than enough ;). I see that your friend, Yazan, is a native speaker of Arabic, so I invited him too, I hope he will have some time to contribute to Arabic Wikipedia. Homs article on the Arabic wiki was developed by my friend Sammy, if you and yazan could contribute to Arabic Wikipedia, we may work on something altogether :) I couldn't actually figure out how much can you speak Arabic, because you did understand my first message very well, but you responded in English, so I hope if you can clarify that to me. Salam! --aad_Dira (talk) 09:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC).

Oh, google translate! P: I have already noticed that Yazzan stopped contributing in the last few months, but I hope that he is still entering Wikipedia from time to time (you know, wikipediholic ;) ), also he will get an email if his page was edited. Anyway, it seems that, unfortunately, there is no much we can do together, so I really wishes you a good luck in your work here, and I will go continue working on Umar Arabic article for now. Best wishes! --aad_Dira (talk) 01:43, 29 June 2012 (UTC).

DYK

Hi, regarding Template:Did you know nominations/Furqlus, just a reminder to review another nomination quid pro quo if you haven't or forgot to do so, or to indicate which one you did review if you have already done so. Thanks. WilliamH (talk) 01:17, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Done. --Al Ameer son (talk) 02:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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From Dictatorship to Democracy

Hello Al Ameer son, thanks for your review of the DYK item, Template:Did you know nominations/From Dictatorship to Democracy. I think I've now addressed the issue you identified. When you get a chance, please take a peek at the article and tell me what you think. Many thanks -- Presearch (talk) 01:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello again -- thanks for the important question you asked (here). Since I think that's an important question, I responded on that page with a question of my own - namely, what is your "take" about whether it could be misunderstood? Thanks again -- Presearch (talk) 16:21, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Al aqsa

Thank you for your suggested temporary fix, I am aware that this is not your preferred option. I believe that this is the website of the archaeological project which confirms these findings. Gabriel Barkay and Zachi Zweig, the co-Director of the Temple Mount Sifting Project, are respected archaeologists and not just amateurs in tin hats with flashlights and shovels peering at the rubble. I note the project intends to publish a comprehensive report on its findings; if you strongly prefer to wait till this date, I am amenable to this. Ankh.Morpork 17:41, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Because of the controversy regarding what was in place prior to the mosque's construction and because the article is rated GA, it's best if we wait for more sources to publish, confirm or back the recent finds. So, yes I'd prefer we wait until that happens. Thank you for your collaboration. --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:30, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

gaza

there's a 1RR in effect. Should self-revert, I'll just take the source to RS/N (like that should be necessary) for now. nableezy - 06:16, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Sigh. Really inclined not to self-revert and I would hate to think someone would report me for such an edit when its justification is beyond obvious. Despite the ridiculousness, I'll just do it since it's happened once before and I don't need the headache. Anyway, thanks for the warning buddy. --Al Ameer son (talk) 06:31, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I have immense difficulties

with barnstars, but award yourself one on my account, if you can find an owl, emblem of Athenian intelligence (which I lack) to inhabit the barn(star). Thanks very much Al Ameer son.Nishidani (talk) 21:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the gesture Nish ;) I will not award myself anything, but I appreciate the compliment which also gives me the opportunity to thank you on your recent work on the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam article. I plan on further contributing to it in due time. --Al Ameer son (talk) 00:11, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Huwwarin

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

re GAN Deir al-Balah

Hi,

I've begun a review of your GAN at Talk:Deir al-Balah. I've left some comments there and will continue adding more.

Your feedback would be appreciated. MathewTownsend (talk) 15:46, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Added a few more comments. All in all looks very good. MathewTownsend (talk) 13:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing the article. Usually it takes weeks for someone to volunteer for a review. I believe I have addressed your concerns and replied to your comments at the review page. --Al Ameer son (talk) 01:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Al-Rastan

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:03, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Furqlus

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Salah al-Din Road

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi again

Thanks, and yeah, I hope to stick around! I actually plan to update all the 1596 data (which haven´t been updated already). I made a rough draft here. There are a few 1956-villages on the West Bank which do not have its own article yet, Nisf Jubeil was one of them. Thanks for the co-ord-check you did on some of them! I still do not get all the co-ords "to fit", but I´ll take that later. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:35, 14 July 2012 (UTC) PS: the link to Kitchener does not work after the Bibliography-section was updated. Do you know how to fix it? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:40, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you know about copyright-issues for pictures on the West Bank? I know that Israeli law makes all pre-1948 Palestine pictures public, but is there a defferent law under PA? The reason I ask is that threre is a 1936 picture of Nisf Jubeil here ....which, of course, I am very tempted to use in the article....... Cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:08, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I have added the picture. Btw, there are a few 1596-villages whose articles are not yet made; if you start them, I will definitely fill out the history. In the Nablus template both Madama, Nablus and Ammuriya, Nablus are 1596-villages, likewise in the Tubas template: Salhab, and in the Qalqilya template: Falamiyya. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:32, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Why do you use google-books? The whole SWP is on archive.org; you can download them (see here). I´ll don´t think there is anything on Sheikh Miskin..though, as the SWP-maps do not cover that area (Closest is map 06, and that only takes the west side of the Sea of Galilee). The books closely follow the maps. Actually, it is a much greater chance that I could find something about it in the Hütteroth and Abdulfattah (that book covers a huuuge area...I´ll look for it, but one problem is that I do not have good maps over the Syrian area. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 21:07, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

No, I cannot find anything on An-Naqura. I think I have found Abdeen, Syria (=small place, in Deraa Governate) in Hütteroth and Abdulfattah. I am going to get (loan) a hardcopy of the book; in a day or two, hopefully. There are a few other 1596-villages on the West Bank, which still do not have articles....but no hurry: I´m trying to update the old articles first... Cheers, Huldra (talk) 21:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Basically they are all here: User:Huldra/HA. If there is a 7+, it means that H&A have found that this village still existed at the end of the Mandate period, ie 1948. If the first name is in bold letters, it means that the 1596-data has not been inserted into the article, yet. If it is in bold letters, and not linked, (eg on p. 116: Tall Abu Za'rur ), it means that there is no article, and I have not found it in any of the templates. Most of these places are tiny...but some are not. Larger ones include Siris, Raba ( > 1000), Ar Rama, Kafr Qud, etc. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:23, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Best of luck with your health; take care and let that come first! I will continue on Salhab and Ammuriya, Nablus: I have not found that much more on Ammuriya, unfortunately. There was also another Amuria down towards Gaza ( a ruin), which one must be careful not to mix up, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Editor's Barnstar
	Thanks for helping out with the Arafat page! Activism1234 21:52, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much, it was good collaborating with you. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Hisyah

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Al-Aqsa Mosque

Your removal of my addition regarding critics questioning the authenticity of the Islamic claim is something I have to question. There needs to be a section questioning the claim in order to acheive balance. Regardless of how you view POV's, such criticisms need to be heard so that the reader has a good idea of the divisiveness of the issue. Plus, seeing your name makes me think (not unreasonably) that you may have had a personal reason for removing the section. If you are indeed an impartial scholar, could you please take the time to explain? Expatkiwi (talk} 09:35, 18 July 2002 (CDT)

Sayf al-Dawla

Again, thanks for the appreciative message. I've wanted to write the article on Sayf al-Dawla for years now, ever since reading about him in Norwich, and finally came around to it. I definitely intend to push it for FA, but, even though it is still a long way off, I am hampered by a lack of sources. Aside from Canard's book on the Hamdanids, which would be essential to adding more material to the article, do you know of any other source I could use? I am especially interested in fleshing out the "cultural activities" section. Unfortunately, my knowledge of Arabic is very close to zero, so if you or any other Arab user would like to help with Arabic sources, it would be most appreciated! Best, Constantine ✍ 19:59, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

كل عام و انت بخير

Tiamut^talk 19:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Yazan (talk) 11:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Salhab

I am completely empty when it comes to suggestion of DYK-handle for Salhab... could be something about its possible Biblical identification? Or that Guerin visited it while it was temporarily deserted? (we have nice, translated quote, there). Or that it was repopulated in the 1880?

As for this edit, have you found any prestent-day info on Kufeir? I assume it is the one on HA#p.127, but I cannot find it in present day statistics? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:15, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I might use a combination of your last two suggestions since the time space between Guerin's visit and Salhab's reestablishment was only 10 years ... or the Biblical ID. Here's some contemporary stuff about Kufeir (also spelled al-Kufeir and Kufair) basic profile and 2007 pop.. Very tiny village, like Salhab. --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok, great; I never found that. Jilijliya, btw (in Ramallah & Bireh) is not that small: should have an article? Huldra (talk) 20:37, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Nice catch, don't know how I missed that one because I just updated the Ramallah Gov. template. Before we start that you want to add any info you have to the Telfit draft page? --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:09, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Ok, added all I found on Telfit (not much): you better add the Zertal-ref. It is also easy to mix up Talfit, so perhaps a DAB of some sort on those two would be in order. Huldra (talk) 21:53, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

• FYI: Talluza now qualifies as a DYK, according to my DYK-check. As for hook: my brain is empty at the moment, sorry. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 16:28, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sheikh Miskin

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

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Shahin@Gaza

I scanned the section, but how to get it to you? Sending me email is one way. Zero^talk 09:41, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Zero, let me know if you got the email. --Al Ameer son (talk) 16:56, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Sent. Zero^talk 03:48, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Got it, thanks a ton man ;) --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:26, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Nisf Jubeil

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

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Zanuta

Given recent decisions to demolish 12 khirbeh villages (most too small to warrant a separate article, though as biblical sites it wouldn't be that difficult to make a decent stub) in the South Hebron hills, and expel their populations by transferring them out of Area C, I've been thinking that, at least to conserve the facts, perhaps a generic 'Palestinian khirbehs in the South Hebron Hills' article would be warranted, where each could be given its due. Any thoughts?Nishidani (talk) 15:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

I was planning on working on these khirbeh articles a while ago but as usual, I got distracted with other subjects. I don't think we need an all-inclusive article on them though since for many, including Khirbet Zanuta, we have enough information to have separate articles. I've also found that many of these hamlets are a part of larger municipalities. For those khirbehs we could have a separate section in the municipality article and and just make a redirect. See Hebron Governorate Community Data forvillage/khirbeh profiles. If you don't mind, could you give me a list of those 12 khirbehs that are up for demolition? --Al Ameer son (talk) 16:38, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

(1) Khirbet al-Majaz, (2) Khirbet al-Tabban, (3) Khirbet al-Fakheit,(4) Halaweh, (5) Mirkez, (6) Jinba, (7) Kharoubeh, (8) Zanuta, (9) Susia, (10) Dekaika, (11) Bir al-Id, (12)Saala.

The IDF declared them all under a new firing range zone. The Palestinians must be protected from their military exercises, while the Israeli settlements in the same areas are getting new building permits. Nishidani (talk) 17:57, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflicy) Hey. I brought this up at Template talk:Hebron Governorate. I thought it was 8 villages, as reported in Haaretz (subscription only) and here. They sre given the following names: Majaz, Tabban, Sfai, Fakheit, Halaweh, Mirkez, Jinba and Kharuba. Most of them are mentioned in this report but with different names: Khirbet al Majaz, Khirbet at Tabban, Khirbet Asafi, Khirbet al Fakheit and Khirbet al Kharaba with populations listed as 5, 30, 30, 25, 5. Tiamut^talk 18:00, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

There is as usual a conflict in info. The 8 up for demolition in one order are linked to several others (I'm strongest on Susia) that have already had these orders imposed on them. In any case chaps and chapesses, lemme know where to edit this stuff if new pages are set up, or old one's have new subsections.Nishidani (talk) 18:29, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the lists. I'll find what I can from the ARIJ and PCBS stats and start some draft pages if possible. Each khirbeh will be dealt with separately on the basis of population, history and local governance. For example, we might be able to write an article (not just a basic stub) on Khirbet Zanuta but not one on Khirbet al-Majaz. If the PNA considers a village to be part of a larger town (even if it's in Area C) we could have the subsection and redirect. Going back to Nishidani's first suggestion, if there's enough information out there that deals with and discusses the khirbehs of the Hebron Hills as a single topic, I think this would merit an article. Maybe a list of the khirbehs with prose for context. Also, if such an article was created, it could link to the individual khirbehs that have enough notability to warrant their own articles. --Al Ameer son (talk) 05:32, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Take your time, and sorry for the imposition. Good works goes slowly but surely, as you know. In the meantime I'll get some of my dispersed notes together.Nishidani (talk) 09:06, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

ps. just got an update from Comet-Me I hope you both get their updates, because those guys do extraordinary work all over that area, and we rarely are aware of that on wiki. Nishidani (talk) 20:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Ta'ayush, EAPPI and Operation Dove also do work in the South Hebron Hills. The CPT used to be there, but is now mostly in Hebron. If you start an article, either all-inclusive or single, I will try to find what I can in the old sources (probably not so much there, though) Cheers, Huldra (talk) 21:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Started Khirbet Zanuta. I found that Bir al-Ibb, Khirbet Asafi and Khirbet al-Fakheit along with three other hamlets form the village cluster of Mosfaret Yatta which is under the single administration of a local development committee appointed by the PA. ARIJ deals with the cluster in the same profile page as at-Tuwani, but distinguishes information between the two. See Tuwani and Mosferat Yatta Profile. --Al Ameer son (talk) 00:24, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

(Update) Masafer Yatta consists of 19 localities, but only six had their populations recorded by the PCBS: Villages recorded by PCBS are Bir al-Ibb, Khirbet Asafi, Khirbet al-Fakheit, Maghayir al-Abeed, Khirbet Tawil ash-Shih, and Shi'b al-Batim; Other villages part of the locality are Janba, al-Markez, al-Halawa, Khirbet al-Majaz, Qawawis, Sadat ath-Tha'la, Khirbet at-Tabban, Khallet at-Dabe, al-Baqla, al-Tuba, Khirbet al-Maqura, Sarura and Rakeez. All are located in Area C. The villages in bold are slated for demolition according to the aforementioned lists. This is just to give an idea of how those particular khirbehs are organized and administered even though they are outside of PNA jurisdiction. --Al Ameer son (talk) 01:41, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Splendid work, chaps. I'll try to add some stuff today. Thanks Nishidani (talk) 07:36, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Guérin visited "Khirbet Zanouta", see p. 199ff (in the 1860s, I assume-->have to read earlier in the book to find exact date). Can someone who read French please add it to the article? Dauphin-stuff should also be added, + there is a reference to Bagatti in Dauphin which I suspect Zero has access to? (It is in Italian). Cheers, Huldra (talk) 11:08, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

From what Guérin writes in part 1 of "Judee", in the intro, and especially here, it looks as if he visited Khirbet Zanouta in July 1863??? Huldra (talk) 11:29, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll translate the Italian stuff, or anything else, if you can post a link here, or send me on the pages. I've overdrawn my credit with Zero to ask for any more materials! In the meantime, I've done a quick draft of Guérin. Great link.Nishidani (talk) 15:49, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Excellent expansion work guys. I think after a little more work (mostly ce and the like), we could nominate this for DYK. I have a question though. Regarding the other khirbehs mentioned above, should I go ahead and start the Masafer Yatta article or should we go a different route? --Al Ameer son (talk) 16:47, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Can't be dyk'd while a dopey nitwit like me keeps screwing up the format! I'd say you keep up the momentum, if that's okay with our indispensable Huldra, and move on to the next, but perhaps we should hear from her first. The important thing would be to get a basic set covered and we can then refine them at leisure.Nishidani (talk) 17:26, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I have no preferences as to which other place we should take next; I don´t know how much "old stuff" there is before I get a location, -->grid-no, and can then start "digging". So take whichever you want, and I´ll see whatever (if anything) that I can dig up.

There is still quite a bit ce, + possible expansion of Khirbet Zanuta. I´ll write what is specific for that article on the talk-page. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll try, if I can drag my way away from the Olympics, to separate out the archeological reports, from Guérin through Conder, Bagatti et al., a bit like I did at Susia, if no one objects. It would be a stroke of luck if we could get some resumé of Avi Ofer's recent Phd work on it. Nishidani (talk) 13:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Go for it, and good luck finding the Ofer source. Adam Zertal might have something on the village too, so I'll look into that. But don't let anything get in the way of the Olympics. We could edit any time but the games only come every four years ;)

DYK for Salhab

Orlady (talk) 16:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

User page

Hey,

Regarding your user page, the boxes starting from "Contributions" and until the end...

Did you manually write all of these boxes? Or is there a template that automatically compiles your contributions and fills out these boxes for you.

Thanks!

--Activism1234 23:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Wrote em all. I just update it every now and then and periodically make alterations to the layout of the boxes. --Al Ameer son (talk) 13:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Wow. Honestly, it's amazing. --Activism1234 16:58, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of rulers of Gaza for deletion

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DYK nomination of Talluza

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Arafat proposal

Proposal

Move: Everything starting from the paragraph about Suha ("In a press release...") ---> Swiss lab ("may have")

In: Theories about the cause of death

To:

• New section at end called "2012 Investigation"

OR

• New subsection of "Polonium" subsection called "2012 Investigation"

Explanation: The paragraphs there don't really discuss theories about the cause of death, but rather responses to one of these theories (polonium). It's more fitting for the polonium section or a new section.

Thoughts?

Thanks. --Activism1234 03:39, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Not sure about a separate "polonium" section per se, but I wouldn't oppose having another subsection called "2012 investigation" for the recent efforts by Suha, the PA and Arab League. Maybe we should write up another quick draft and try to keep the new subsection small i.e. just the brisk facts without too many details. --Al Ameer son (talk) 15:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Personally I don't know much else info on the investigation, which is why I called to just move everything about the investigation in the section "Theories about the cause of death" to a new section or a sub-section. It would be in the same article, but not under "Theories about the cause of death" anymore, since it isn't a theory, and has developed into enough info for a new section or subsection. I did not mean to say a new polonium section - rather, a subsection under polonium, since it followed that development. But I'm fine with either one.

If you do have more info, then you can add it to whatever will be moved (if you agree) to the new section/subsection. I don't think a draft will be needed, as we already have a lot of info there, but feel free to do so (I just don't know much more to help out there).

Thanks. --Activism1234 15:57, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Talluza

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Khirbet Zanuta

Orlady (talk) 08:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Mahkamah Mosque

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Gaza means 'treasure' in Latin

Gaza Nishidani (talk) 18:19, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Once upon a time ... --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:32, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Arafat probe

Not a fan of Fox News/referencing it on Wikipedia... Have you seen this story in any other outlets? Could be useful info on the Death of Arafat article, something unrelated to the theories.

Thanks. --Activism1234 21:42, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Not a fan either, but I generally find that their online news doesn't carry the same POV-pushing propaganda as their television news. Either way, Fox is a reliable source and you should go ahead and add that to the article if you'd like. If not, I'll try to work it in later, but I must admit that I'm unable to keep focus on a specific subject here, always wandering around the broader topic area of the M/E. --Al Ameer son (talk) 23:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

All right, I'll add it in to the article, and feel free to edit anything I write there. Hard to imagine this type of story just being made up, but wanted to make sure you'd be OK with it first. Thanks. --Activism1234 23:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I added it in. Hope it's good. If not, feel free to make changes. Also, it was AP who originally wrote the article, and I generally consider them reliable. --Activism1234 23:48, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Shaghur

No problem. I've also tried to improve Carmel City a bit as it had been tagged for ages. Number 57 20:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Hanajira

Hi there. You seem to have forgot about this nomination, Template:Did you know nominations/Hanajira, where you lack a QPQ. In other words, you need to review another nomination before your nomination can be approved. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, first of all sorry for asking for the QPQ diff; I didn't see that there was the link there when I left that message. Beyond that, at long last I'm done reviewing the nomination, save for one detail. Examine the ninth reference, referring to one "Abu-Nowar." To what is it referring exactly? Please endeavor to address this by Sunday, otherwise I'll be stuck having to follow the DYK goings-on from my phone again.—Biosketch (talk) 20:59, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Eid al-Fitr

	Eid al-Fitr
	I'm really sorry I didn't get around to posting this earlier! Anyway, better late than never. Happy [belated] Eid al-Fitr. I've enjoyed working with you on a few articles. Let me know if you need any assistance in future endeavors. Activism1234 01:45, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Activism, and Eid Mubarak to you as well. I'm sure we'll find something to work on soon. By the way, thanks for starting Ahmed Dabbah. I started an article on him a long time ago under the title Salih Debbah (same guy, "Salih" is the middle name) but it got deleted recently because it was unreferenced and failed the notability guidelines. Had no idea he was a Kadima member though. Anyway, nice to see its resurrection with a DYK nom ;) --Al Ameer son (talk) 02:53, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! If you have other references for the article as well, feel free to add them. He's had quite a political career, serving as mayor for various towns, and yes, he's part of Kadima (as mayor of Deir el-Assad, he got Mofaz more votes than Tel Aviv got votes for Livni and Mofaz combined I believe!). --Activism1234 03:10, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I read. Actually he was mayor of the same place (Shaghur was a short-lived city formed as a result of the union between Deir al-Asad and two other towns, all of which are independent local councils again). Don't have anything on him as of yet, but I'll see what's available online. --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:31, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Got it. He's also a supermarket mogul I believe. Interesting man. --Activism1234 03:43, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Tel Rifaat

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Thanks for the review, just addressed your concerns. --Al Ameer son (talk) 00:24, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

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