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The Signpost: 4 July 2024

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2024

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2024).

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Draft:Factions of the Liberal Party of Australia

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Good work on this one, have been wanting to do similar for a while but it's a tricky subject to wrangle together. I think your approach of dividing things up by decade and by state is a good one. I would be inclined to eventual merge Moderates (Liberal Party of Australia), Centre Right (Liberal Party of Australia), and National Right (Liberal Party of Australia) into your article – in my view their sourcing is inadequate and the editors maintaining them (often by randomly adding MPs) don't really seem to understand the historical background and are operating on the basis that these informal groups are equivalent to the formalised ALP factions. What are your thoughts on a merger? ITBF (talk) 05:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you ITBF! That draft's been a long time coming and still has a ways to go. Besides the complexity of the subject, sources can also be difficult to find and access. My intention was always for this draft to become an article that would absorb those three faction articles – aside from the issues you've pointed out, I consider them very recentist in their approach. For example, my research has indicated that the National Right has existed for at least two decades, possibly even longer, but its standalone article makes no attempt to cover its history further back than 2019. Unfortunately I can't give any sort of ETA for when I can finish that draft, and I'm not entirely optimistic that merger proposals would go through, but that's my plan at this stage. 5225C (talk • contributions) 06:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of McLaren MCL60

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article McLaren MCL60 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of 750h+ -- 750h+ (talk) 00:03, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 22 July 2024

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McLaren MCL38

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I don't see how the fact that Hungary was McLaren's first 1-2 finish since 2021 is significant. It has only been 2 1/2 years, most teams have had a much longer gap than that. BMB YT 500000 (talk) 13:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • It provides context to the reader that McLaren has not been regularly competitive and that the MCL38 is its most accomplished model in several years. If the article was listing things like the first 1–2 at the circuit since X season, or the first 1–2 in X races, or the first 1–2 in X days, and so on, then an argument would have to be made that this is excessive and unhelpful. But that's not the case; we need to strike a balance between staying on the core topic of the article and with providing an appropriate amount of context and background for the reader. It's an extra eight words, not a paragraph. 5225C (talk • contributions) 13:15, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I understand including that it was their first front-row lockout since 2012, but it's only been 2 1/2 years since their last 1-2 finish, and the MCL37 was just as, if not more competitive than the 2021 car, so I have to disagree. BMB YT 500000 (talk) 13:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's precisely the fact that it's been 2.5 years that makes it significant: 2.5 years shows that this is not a common result, it's an exceptional one. The MCL60 scored no wins compared to the MCL38's two, nine podiums compared to eleven, zero poles compared to two, and 302 points compared to 338. And that's over the entire 22 race season rather than the thirteen races we've had so far in 2024. You might think the MCL60 was more competitive, but the numbers don't show that all. 5225C (talk • contributions) 14:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"5225C mentioned you..."

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I have to say, receiving this screenshot in my email inbox tonight really made me laugh:

AMERICA! F YEAH!

— That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 06:31, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, seeing as you're a McLaren guy, just butting in here to say that the F1 LM is really a thing of beauty. The orange sorry, Papaya Orange color on the car makes it that much more special to me. It, the Mercedes CLK GTR and the Mustang Cobra R are my 3 favorite cars from the early 2000s. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 14:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Volvo, nice. Really such an underrated car (and truck!) manufacturer--also, can't go wrong with a station wagon, I am sure your XC70 held up well over the years. My childhood church priest actually drove a little 1998 Volvo S70 much like this one lol (same color, too):
Any time I saw a Volvo on the streets, I'd associate it with him. I also DID NOT know they had a racing division, that STCC S40 looks so cool (and the paint on it is... very Volvo)
Also, speaking of station wagons, for whatever reason I've always wanted to buy a nice, low-mileage station-wagon version of my 1996 Toyota Camry. Old Toyotas are ridiculously reliable, and the extra space in the back can certainly come in handy:
  • Sedan, though mine doesn't have a cool two-color scheme like this one
    Sedan, though mine doesn't have a cool two-color scheme like this one
  • A long boi
    A long boi
So I agree, all cars are awesome--from an F1 to a Volvo XC70. — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 23:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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