User:Kober/Archive4

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Kober, i'll be emailing you all the time. Ldingley 13:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear Kober, how can i delete the photos which I uploaded? Thanks. Ldingley 18:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Kober. Watch out for that Iranian who attaches Iranian states template on Georgia. Thanks again. Ldingley 18:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Ooh, please, hopefully there are not gonna move Georgia to Gurjistan or something like that. :) Sosomk 18:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

They just might :) Kober Soso, im removing some of my images from articles. Many of them were sold to gettyimages inc and AIG Abkhazeti Foundation. They are now copyrighted to those organizations which purchased the photo materials. Ldingley 18:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober, my own countryman deleted my template on Georgia/ So can you include please same info as I had before on adaptation of christianity and georgian kingdom? Just like Armenia? Thanks.Ldingley 18:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

კობერ, დღეს ვნახე რუსთავ ორში იოგორას ძმაკაცების ამბავი და მეც კარგად გავერთე,:):) მაგრამ უნდა გითხრა ცოტა გამიკვირდა. ადამიანურად შეძლება კაცს შეეცოდოს,მაგრამ რაც არ უნდა არ მოგწონდეს მთავრობა, სამშობლოს ღალატი დაუშვებელია.

წარმატებას გისურებ ლიცენზიის ტესტზე. დარწმუნებული ვარ კარგად ჩაბარებ, რადგან ინგლისური ძალიან კარგად იცი.

დროებით, Sosomk 18:25, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

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Givi

My dear Givi, I got the book you wanted from University Library, will commence with photocopying the materials which interest you and God willing you get it by October :) Im also sending Dawlings rare work. Its a biggest jewel of scholarly work on Georgia I have ever found. And you thought that only Wardrop, Lang and Allan were the only ones :) I’m really excited and curious to know your opinion on that book after you read it. Let’s communicate via emails when you have time. Cheers. p.s please review my edits on Georgia Ldingley 20:34, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ghirlandajo

I notified him because he was involved in the naming of the article back in July 2005. That's the same reason why I contacted mikka. I can let D.Papuashvili know about it too if you want... —Khoikhoi 05:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Normally, I would also tend to think so, but that :( emoticon seemed to me somewhat ambiguous.--Kober 06:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't get it... —Khoikhoi 17:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober you here? Ldingley 18:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober, see email. Thanks. Ldingley 19:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

minotoring

Kober, please monitor this article. South Ossetian independence referendum, 2006. Thanks. Ldingley 16:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober any info on him? Kosta Khetagurov? Ldingley 19:38, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Good night Kober. Sweet dreams :0) Ldingley 19:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy St Ketevan Martyrs day!

Dear Kober, this day is very special not only for Georgian Christians but for all Christians around the world. The heroic death and struggle of Queen Ketevan shall be forever cherished and remembered by Christendom. She suffered and overtook the same path as our Lord Christ, through horrific suffering and final sacrifice for the good of her nation and her faith. I’d like to wish you and your family all the blessings on this holy day. Praise be the holy soul of St Ketevan. May God keep you well. Yours, Ldingley 14:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Givi. I am planning to go out with my gf and celebrate this day with George. BTW what an amazing job you did on Kosta Khetagurov and on Ossetian "referendum" (great job on finding sources). Also can you please add Senator Lugar's visit to Tskhinvali and his comments on Russian peacekeepers in Tskhinvali? Here is the source: [1] Thanks Kober. Ldingley 15:17, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear Kober, i noticed that this article Grigoriy Ordzhonikidze did not mention that Sergo annexed DRG. I added some sentence but please review if its suitable. Thanks. Also review Gaioz Devdariani as time will allow. Thanks. Ldingley 17:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober, another and last request :) sorry. There is no article about famous Niko Nikoladze and general who died in Abkhazia Geno Adamia (he is the only one of which I dont have any info in my collection, but i do remember him during the conflict, very nice man). My many thanks Ldingley 19:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober, you made me very happy with Geno Adamia article. On August 13, they showed him a tank where 3 Georgians (ages 17, 19, and 21) where burned alive inside. They refused to leave the Gulripsh Bridge and eventually were killed by mortar fire. He fell on his knees in front of this tank and cried. He was a very good man, a man of peace rather than of war. Thanks again for this article. Ldingley 14:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober, take a look at Georgians. What do you think? Ldingley 19:26, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

gaumarjos Kober, rogor xar?Sosomk 22:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

		Diderot Barnstar for Encyclopaedic Excellence
		This special barnstar to Givi Kobridze for his excellent contribution on Wikipedia Encyclopedia. When science, art, literature, and philosophy are simply the manifestation of personality they are on a level where glorious and dazzling achievements are possible, which can make a man's name live for thousands of years. - Denis Diderot

Question

Are you online right now? —Khoikhoi 06:06, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I use Firefox but I can't see Armenian or Georgian on my computer. I can see Armenian on Safari, however. Do you think it's because I have a Mac? Are there extensions for Georgian and Armenian I can download? Thanks. —Khoikhoi 07:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. Thanks. —Khoikhoi 07:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Abkhazia

Well I am back, now then bad news first, even though I made an excessive photo attack on everything deserving photographing, my camera succesfully fell out of my hands in New Athos cave and...kaput. Externally the memory card has survived, but I have not been able to recover any images (although there is still hope).

Now then a few impressions to share. First of all, like they say there is Moscow and then there is the rest of Russia, well same with Abkhazia there is territory northwest of Sukhumi and then there is the rest. Despite the massive tourist industry which in terms of numbers now annually surpasses the Soviet times, and the money they bring, infrastructure is APPALING in all respects. Take a look at this photogallery and it speaks for itself [2] [3].

In terms of beaches, however, compared to our resorts like Anapa or Sochi, in Abkhazia its crystal clear water. All in all I had a great time. New Athos Cave railway is being drafted...--Kuban Cossack 00:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

are u online? Ldingley 16:42, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Per your question on where I was. I speant a week in Gagra and then a few days in Sukhumi and then travelled eastwards to a few Cossack outposts on the border areas next to Georgia proper and hiked in the mountains, before coming back to New Athos (now you can see why I feel so disappointed in losing my camera, still no luck in recovering anything). --Kuban Cossack 12:48, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober, while reading Nikoladze article, please review changes on Ilia Chavchavadze. Thanks Ldingley 14:18, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Wow Kober, your Nikoladze article is something :) I never knew those facts and i have no idea where you found them. I really enjoyed it, thank you so much. If you dont like some things on Ilias article, please modify. Mr Nikoladze told me that his Canadian/British friends are coming to Tbilisi in November and i want you to meet them. I also will pass them some book for you. If you have time to meet them, it would be great. Let me know about Dowling book after you finish. Thanks again Givi. Ldingley 14:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Kober, i wounder who was the briliant person who wrote on United National Movement that they are nationalist party and try to get controle over "suvereign" states of Abkhazia and S. Ossetia. Thats what i talking about, misleading information which serves as propaganda tool rather than informative and encyclopedic. The victism are un-informed readers of google and Wikipedia Ldingley 14:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Please comment Talk:Georgian people Ldingley 17:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Please let me know which photos do u want me to change and add. Thanks Ldingley 17:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Kober, How is it going? Yes, I am back to school and getting very busy :(. How is everything Tbilisi? How are your studies for the exam going? Sosomk 21:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

Dear Kober, many people will agree that you have made a significant contribution to Wikipedia and particularly Georgia-related topics. Do you agree for my suggestion to request you candidacy to be considered for Adminship of English Wikipedia? If you agree and i have a go ahead from you, I will post my request for adminship vote. Let me know. Thanks. Ldingley 15:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober go here [[4]]. Ldingley 22:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Dear Givi, please let me know as soon as you can the outcome of the vote by NATO. Thanks Ldingley 15:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

p.s Givi please review and add additional info Alexander Chavchavadze. Thanks Ldingley 16:15, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Givi where did u find that info? Ldingley 17:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC) GREEEEAt :) Now one more vote in November, and there is no way back :) Ldingley 17:22, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Givi, thanks for the link. Great speech. Nobody had been so openly critical of you know who. Please review the new info on Alexander Chavchavadze. Thanks a lot Kober and have a great weekend. Ldingley 18:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Russian words of Georgian origin

Kober, Could you please help on references for [5]. Tamokk 07:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Tsinandali

Gaumarjos Kober, Check thos pics out. They ar not the best quality, because I had to snapshot them from the camera.

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  View from the balcony 2

In addition, I changed Renessiance to Romanticism, because i belive Alexander's poetry were mostly Romatic (Looking back to the past when GE was independet and less hope for the future and lots of emotional charge in it and etc.) Sosomk 14:24, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Please see, Thou Art a Vineyard, Shen khar venakhi. How do you like it? Sosomk 15:54, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

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De.wiki

Thank you for your kind words. No, I'm not from Georgia, though a part of my family descends from there. Unfortunately I don't speak any Georgian. Maybe someone should write an article about in France. I found some interesting information concerning the government of the Democratic Republic of Georgia in exile. [6], [7]-- 15:20, 27. Sep 2006 (CEST)

Kober

Kober, im glad that you liked the book. Please review my changes (Abkhazia, Upper Abkhazia, De-jure Government of Abkhazia, Malkhaz Akishbaia and Chkhalta) and contributions and make any edits which you think should be done. Thanks a lot. Ldingley 15:15, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

New photos from Abkhazia. [8] Ldingley 17:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober, recalling ambassador means a state of war with the country. It was their gravest mistake and will cost them dearly. EU, US in this case will support Georgia. Some US agents were arrested in Latin America and charged with spying. US did not recall its ambassadors from those countries. Also these "agents" were simple terrorists who were planning the sabotage and terrorists acts on Georgian territory. Its state sponsored terrorism. Everbody knows that in the west. Putin can’t fool anyone here. GRU always operate din Georgia, they were instrumental in waging Abkhaz war, Ossetian conflict, Sumgait massacre, Khojaly massacre, and masterminded the Chechen crisis. Their presence in Georgia was always high and very active. Now their are loosing this grip on the country and that is why, Russia panicked. More mistakes like that, better for Georgia in the long run. I am glad that opposition fully supports the administration. This is the sign of true democracy. What is the fresh news so far? Ldingley 15:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

"which played an important role in the ethnic and cultural consolidation of the Georgian nation." BRAVO. Ldingley 15:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Im not surprised. Ingush always viewed Georgians as their older brothers. Actually there are no ethnic differences between Ingush, Tush and Kists. :) Very interesting news. So by evacuating military personnel they will help Georgia to get rid of their military presence in a very short time, rather than till 2008? Wow, Russians are brilliant as usual :) Ldingley 15:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

November, return to Tskhinvali :) and finally i can make some photos there. :) Ldingley 15:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

"Ossetians produce excellent beer, btw" That’s a POV statement and much disputed controversy. I never heard of Ossetian beer :) NPOV should be respected due to vast variety of excellent beers from Belgium, Germany, Canada, Scotland, Ireland and even in Georgia (Kazbegi, Natakhtari, etc) :) Ldingley 16:01, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

That’s it! I had enough. You are being warned for personal attacks on other beers and POV pushing for Czech beer, which is un-sources and un-referenced claim! :) Im sorry but they suck Kober :) Why is Russia calling for emerg meeting in SC of UN for abkhaz-georgian conflict? Ldingley 16:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Rwanda Genocide

Kober, im still working on this article Rwandan Genocide. It would be good if someone can translate it into Georgian (short article), its very important topic. Thanks Ldingley 15:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Kober dont worry, we will keep off any ultra-nationalistic attacks on those articles. You must realize that recent evens play a great role in disturbances on Wiki. Abkhazia article, Upper Abkhazia, S Ossetia will be under attack due to politican tention. Many thanks for your hard work dear Givi. Ldingley 16:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh Wow! this looks awful. Kober, what do you think about the blockade? Sosomk 02:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

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Keber is the man!:) rac tkvi kvelaferi martalia. putinma tavi sul sasacilod aigdo. imas ver xvdeba rom rac ufro ganagrzobs blokadas mit ufro gaifuchebs urtiertobas euto da gaerostan, cheven ki dids verafers dagvakleb. au xinkali magrad menatreba erti suli rodis chamoval :) P.S. why don't you add your pic in the real men collection on my user page:) Sosomk 17:14, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Saakashvili

Yeah sure i'll keep it on my watchlist. Regards, Matt Matt 20:00, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober, its, regards Sosomk 00:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear Kober, dont worry, everything will be ok. :) Ldingley 16:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober, we should ask Alex bakharev to lock Georgia article due to unsigned vandalism. Ldingley 17:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

File:Gmorf.jpg

Kober can you please translate this sign on the window and insert it into the article on Georgian-Russian dispute? Thanks. Ldingley 18:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

George forwarded it to me from some Russian news web page Gazeta. Ldingley 18:58, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Just to say that I am with you on this edit. I have nothing against Misha and I think the Rose revolution was a genuine movement of the people. But Sosomk's reinsertion of such highly POV phrase to the very lead of the article and refed to nothing more but White House' political statement was out of place. Thanks again, --Irpen 21:49, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I can't protect an article because I am not an admin. But I will watch it. --Irpen 04:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Removal of tags

Please never remove tags placed by your opponents, like this. If content of the article is disputed, our readers should know this. Your removal, apart from being bad manners, does not help to resolve the problem. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 15:48, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

The same goes for you, especially when the comments are friendly. [9]. --Kober 16:19, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

kober

me mgoni, eg tipi, zemot rom aris, saxeli ar minda davasaxelo gavagdet statiidan ertxel da samudamod. Sosomk 16:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

ultra ki ara ki vitkodi rac aris eg, magram akademiurad unda gavachumot:):) Sosomk 16:32, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

ise magaze uazroba araferi araa rom xalxistvis biletebic rom ar augiat. tviton aagebines biletebi da ise gauketes deportacia .Sosomk 16:40, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

) Kober dont feel bad about the discussion. This issue is highly political and very controversial. Take it as a normal every day Wikipedia event, all Georgian article are attacked daily so what surprises you? :) Soso my man, you remind me of Okruashvili all the time :)))))) Both of you are cool dudes and have nothing to worry about :) Soso's sports articles and Kobers history articles are one of the best on Wiki. BTW I have a new name again, Georgian editor :). Ldingley 16:56, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I remember what Arabs said in the Copt article "reverts by another Georgian who does not know what is going on?" :)) that was funny as heck:)). I am still wondering what will happend to the great article u wrote about Copts Sosomk 17:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

It was deleted and i did not have energy to fight arabs. Well, there is nothing wrong if being Georgian so than its ok with me :) Ldingley 17:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC).

Go back to studying and History articles :) I'll do the same. I was very busy with work and thats why i didnt have time to write you an email :( Ldingley 17:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Mikheil Kasyanov, leader of Russia's Peoples Democratic Union and former Prime Minister who has publicly stated his presidential ambitions, has condemned the actions of the Russian authorities regarding Georgia.

A statement issued by Kasyanov reads:

"The actions of the Russian leadership, which called upon the UN Security Council for the resolution of an incident that occured in relation to Georgia and which made the decision to implement informal sanctions against the Georgian people, are unworthy of the status of a Great Power. This policy can not be justified by the incorrect, and at times provocative, actions of the Georgian leadership.

The ongoing campaign of discrimination not only against the people of the neighboring state, but also against [Russian] citizens of Geogian nationality, have led to the violation of the Constitution, which directly forbids the limitation of citizens' rights based on ethnicity. We have to admit that Russia's first presidency in the G-8 would be marked not only by gas scandals, but also by chauvinist hysteria." civil.ge

Politkovskaya

Please withstand of adding information about Politkovskaya death in the 2006 Georgian-Russian espionage controversy. It is irrelevant and does not relates to the title. Elk Salmon 14:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Kober, I'll join you tommorow. Ldingley 23:18, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I think we should consider reporting Girla and his inappropriate and senseless attacks to the administrator. His insultive behaviour is unacceptable. Ldingley 14:19, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Otherwise, pelase ignore him completely and do not respond to his slunders and attacks. Ldingley 14:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Dear Kober, what image? also I will completely ignore him for now on. Thanks. Ldingley 14:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober, do not pay attention to those attacks. Please continue your valuable contributions for historical articles which i find very informative. Thanks again Kober. Ldingley 14:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober, check this out:) [[10]]. Sosomk 16:20, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober, did Georgia (Government or president) make any statements regarding the murder of Politkovskaya? Ldingley 14:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober, can you translate just couple of reactions by the georgian officials (Bokeria will do) and inseart into Anna Politkovskaya article, section Reactions? Thanks Ldingley 15:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

მესხები

Hey Kober,

What do you think about my proposal at Talk:Meskhetians? Do you think it's a good idea? —Khoikhoi 03:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Kober!! Ldingley 15:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober did u see george's email? that was a famouse spanish civil war poster:)))) Ldingley 20:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello Kober

Your sources were added in the Names of the Greeks. Thank you very much! I wish we modern Greeks deserved that honor as well... Anyway, the article says that this appellation is attributed to the notion that philosophy was born in Greece. We know that philosophy was born in Greece, but we don't know that this name was given for this reason. Does any of your sources state that? •NikoSilver• 19:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Naaah, we don't. There's nothing more difficult than having to compare with those guys from the old times! Thanks for the info. If you happen to bump on the particular quote, please keep a note and tell me. Thanks. •NikoSilver• 19:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

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Armenia

Hello Kober, can you please comment on Talk:Armenia. I'm sure your opinion would be very insightful. Thanks. --Eupator 20:15, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober, what do you think about Sunny's book on Making of the Georgian Nation and also on latest UN resolution? see this [11] Ldingley 15:57, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Are u online? Lets talk via gmail. Ldingley 17:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Suny

Is Grigor Suny really an Armenian? From what some of my fellow Armenian Wikipedians have told me, he is extremely anti-Armenian, favoring annexation of the NKR to Azerbaijan and the unification between the Republic of Azerbaijan and Iranian Azerbaijan. Is this true? -- Clevelander 19:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Kober can you provide them answer? [12] Thanks in advance. Ldingley 14:53, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Kober. You poor thing, they constantly attack you on Georgian articles. :( Ldingley 15:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

really? Wow I admire Pan Piotrus for his valuable contributions in the study of Polish military history which I found fascinating to read. He also uses references and sources masterfully. He can be considered as a young scholar of Polish history :0) Halibutt is another interesting and knowledgeable person. Ldingley

Kober, just got info, Congrats, EU has sided with Georgia and passed a harsh resolution on Russia. News is just comming out... Ldingley 16:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Im just watching it on TV, plus here [13] Ldingley 16:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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