User:Doug Coldwell/Sandboxes/Archive 14

Hi

Please take a look at Wikipedia talk:Did you know at the bottom. User Crisco is apparently upset that I gave him criticism at the Pettakere cave DYK. Now he/she is claiming that I am poor at making DYKs/articles. Which I am certainly not. Just this month I have articles with a combined review count of over 40,000 views on DYKSTATS. Am I claiming to be the best ever, no. Do I need to get "guidance" in the art of DYKs, no. I think the last years 40+ DYKs is evidence enough of my capabilites. --BabbaQ (talk) 15:57, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

New Hamborough

I found the following reference to Hamborough in Upper Canada:

"THE HOME DISTRICT was composed of two counties. 1st. The County of York, containing, in its East Riding, the townships of Whitby, Pickering, Scarborough, York, Etobicoke, Markham, Vaughan, King, Whitchurch, Uxbridge, Guillembury, and a tract of land, thereafter to be laid out into townships, between the County of Durham and lake Simcoe; in the West Riding, the townships of Beverly, Hamborough (east and west), and several tracts of land, not then laid out into townships."

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I also found an 1818 map that shows the township of Beverly mentioned above: ^[3]

Although the map clearly shows Beverly, I could not find a reference to Hamborough. It does however, pin down the general location of Hamborough. 2001:558:6007:18:4CBB:384B:2AF6:81F5 (talk) 17:01, 30 November 2014 (UTC)Ray Henry Rochester, Michigan

New Hamborough

Digging a little deeper it appears that Hamborough may be a misspelling of Flamborough. Flamborough, Ontario, near Hamilton, was once composed of both East and West Flamborough [see my earlier message to you that references "Hamborough (East and West)"].

"For most of its existence before amalgamation with Hamilton in 2001, Flamborough comprised the former townships of East Flamborough, West Flamborough, and Beverly, as well as the Village of Waterdown."... [again a reference to Beverly]

"After the American Revolution in 1783 and the creation of Upper Canada, land at the western end of Lake Ontario was surveyed and organized into townships, which included East Flamborough, West Flamborough and Beverly."... "The Town of Dundas was created from parts of West Flamborough and Ancaster Townships."

This leads me to believe that Eber Brock Ward was actually born at Flamborough, not Hamborough. I've also seen a reference to Applegarth Mills, Ontario, as his birthplace. Applegarth Mills apparently was located at what later became East Flamborough.

Hope this helps, 2001:558:6007:18:4CBB:384B:2AF6:81F5 (talk) 17:31, 30 November 2014 (UTC)Ray Henry, Rochester, Michigan

References

^ "Statistical Account of Upper Canada..., vol. I." Simpkin & Marshall: London, January 1, 1822, pg 119.
^ https://openlibrary.org/books/OL7176777M/Statistical_account_of_Upper_Canada
^ http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/nmc/n0020917.pdf

Cronica Walliae has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, Doug Coldwell. Cronica Walliae, an article you either created or significantly contributed to, has been nominated for Did you know consideration to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 05:56, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cadwallon ap Gruffydd

On 5 December 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cadwallon ap Gruffydd, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Cadwallon ap Gruffydd, son of the king of Gwynedd, was willing to murder three of his mother's brothers to gain power, but was himself later killed by another brother of hers? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cadwallon ap Gruffydd. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:04, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me of the DYK.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:28, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Angharad ferch Owain

On 5 December 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Angharad ferch Owain, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Cadwallon ap Gruffydd, son of the king of Gwynedd, was willing to murder three of his mother's brothers to gain power, but was himself later killed by another brother of hers? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:04, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me of the DYK.--12:37, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Your picture reminds me

that I need to find my "I Edit Wikipedia" tee-shirt, misplaced in my recent move. Thanks, Einar aka !!!!

3RR

I presume you realised you are now at 3RR at Cronica Walliae, where you just removed sourced content from one of the most reliable sources used in the article. Dougweller (talk) 09:28, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Misleading edit summary

Removing the word 'supposed' and calling it a copyedit was a clearly misleading edit summary. Please don't do that again. Dougweller (talk) 09:55, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/William Maurice (antiquary)

Please express your opinion about the proposed ALT 1. Nicely done! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Perfect! = way better than my original hook line. Sounds much sexier.....--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Misleading edit summaries redux

You removed " He believed that the Welsh were an ancient people descended from the Trojans with an edit summary "c/e". This was clearly misleading, especially in the light of my earlier warning. You know better. It's also pov pushing. Dougweller (talk) 10:52, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Swift Lathers

On 19 December 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Swift Lathers, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that "the smallest newspaper in the world" (issue shown) was published by Swift Lathers from his home for over 50 years, and had paid subscribers in 38 states? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Swift Lathers. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 23:56, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Another well-deserved honor!! Bigturtle (talk) 03:44, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mears News

On 19 December 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mears News, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that "the smallest newspaper in the world" (issue shown) was published by Swift Lathers from his home for over 50 years, and had paid subscribers in 38 states? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 23:57, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Swift Lathers museum

On 19 December 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Swift Lathers museum, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that "the smallest newspaper in the world" (issue shown) was published by Swift Lathers from his home for over 50 years, and had paid subscribers in 38 states? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 23:57, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

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DYK for Oceana County Historical & Genealogical Society

On 3 January 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Oceana County Historical & Genealogical Society, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Oceana County Historical & Genealogical Society contains "an organization within an organization"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Oceana County Historical & Genealogical Society. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Harrias ^talk 12:02, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Doug Coldwell!

Happy New Year!

Doug Coldwell,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 17:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.

Thanks. Happy New Year to you also!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:52, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

New to Wiki

Thank you - first time working on Wiki - I am slowly getting the hang of it. I am in 6th grade.Wsantry (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Wow!!! I was guessing I was talking to a University Professor. You are a smart one = a real wiz on computers. I can see you becoming an excellent Wikipedian. Its best to learn on your own, however if you really get hung up ask me. I have been around for awhile and know some tricks. As you can see I have many PCs. DYKs are my specialty.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

puzzled

You sent me an email. I could not locate the subject. Put a link on my talk? John from Idegon (talk) 01:32, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for William Maurice (antiquary)

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The DYK project (nominate) 13:04, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cronica Walliae

On 23 January 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cronica Walliae, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Cronica Walliae helped popularise a legend that the Welsh discovered America in about 1170, a tale used to justify English encroachments on the early colonies of the Spanish Empire? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cronica Walliae. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Copyvio

I don't know why I didn't realise this earlier, but those flickr links are all copyvio, could you please remove them from the talk page? Thanks. Also, we can't say why Llwyd wrote something, so I've reverted that. If someone else says why, we can report that with attribution. Dougweller (talk) 16:54, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't understand. I thought Llwyd wrote that in 1559. Whatever links you feel are copyvio, if you feel it is not correct then go ahead and remove them.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:42, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I think I finally figured out what you were talking about. Replaced with same pages from Powel 1584 book that was reprinted in London for John Harding, 1811. Also HathiTrust digital library has it marked as Copyright: Public Domain, Google-digitized.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:58, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. Dougweller (talk) 21:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Links/Citations in John Ratcliff (Bookbinder)

Moved conversation to article Talk page.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:52, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Treaty of Louviers

Hello,

I have reviewed the above and approved it for DYK. I also left some comments which I hope will prove helpful in improving the article.

Georgejdorner (talk) 03:56, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Treaty of Louviers

On 23 February 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Treaty of Louviers, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Richard the Lionheart deliberately took church property without its permission? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Treaty of Louviers. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Солнечное затмение 1 мая 1185 года

Happy to help if I can--Smerus (talk) 09:45, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Can you send me an e-mail?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jenny Lind private railroad car

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Allen3 ^talk 12:04, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for 1185 East Midlands earthquake

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DYK for Solar eclipse of 1 May 1185

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Elizabeth Timothy

Hi Doug, I just noticed all the work you've done on Elizabeth Timothy, a stub I started a couple years ago out of personal interest, but without any real access to good source material. I love it when this happens! I'd be interested to know what got you interested in her, etc. Above all I'm personally curious, but if you're game I'd also like to consider interviewing you for a short blog post about it (I write about how Wikipedia editing works). Please drop me a line when you have a chance, on my talk page or by email. -Pete (talk) 14:47, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:56, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Spare QPQ

Did you know nominations Raid on Manila (1798) Feel free to use this as my contribution to the DYK we are working on. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:31, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Shaker tilting chair

User: Doug Coldwell, Tweaked (several times) Alt 2. If I overstepped, please revert. Thanks. 14:25, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks good = lets go with your "tweaks". May have another Shaker article soon. Interested?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:36, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Sure = Shaker-style pantry boxes From 11 A.M. will be gone for a few hours, so there will not be any edit conflicts. Good luck.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:55, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Writing a good hook in this case is like putting together a patent application (on a small scale). 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:46, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes it was = needed the assistance of a good attorney.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I added something from your correspondent to the tilting chair article. Probably needs a reference. I think it is a really great quote that puts patents by Shakers into a new light. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:10, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I'll check it out after lunch, if you haven't already got it.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Got this down to 156 (countable) characters. Whew! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:51, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

150! Good job! 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:19, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

The references are all done, except perhaps for the quotation from the letter about patents. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:40, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Great job!!!!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:43, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

What about the letter as a reference? 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:52, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:53, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm leaving that up to you to complete. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 19:58, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Maybe I'm lost? Send me an e-mail on specifics. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:00, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

IF its footnote B you are talking about, then I would just leave that out. Otherwise I'm lost!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:31, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I like footnote B. We did get a letter that says it. We could within the EFN reference it (or not). It's not crtical anyway. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:44, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Let's leave it and see what happens. I think nothing will happen. What's "EFN reference"?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:49, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay. If you edit, you will find the notations efn-ua. I put those in. I assume it is an acronym for Electronic footnote Upper alpha. efn-la is Lower alpha. And you can put a reference within it, that is within the double brackets. 20:54, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I see the light at the end of the tunnel now. It has a loud train whistle. Yikes!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:57, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

It took me a long time to figure all that out. One of my correspondents had to school me, and I had to keep looking at it in the context of articles. I am also aware that there are other ways to do this, but I don't know how. I haven't bothered to learn, since what I do works and accomplishes what I want. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:00, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Shaker broom vise WP:DYK QPQ

You can sue Template:Did you know nominations/Hoochie Coochie Man 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll nominate Saturday.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:34, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Per Holknekt

Please take a look at the article Per Holknekt that I have created. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

@BabbaQ: Looks like a good quality article to me. It is well referenced. Good job. Not much I can do for it. There is a copyright free image of him you can use if you like on Flickr.

I was trying to think of a DYK hook, and a possible one might something to the effect -> DYK ... that Per Holknekt become a housemate on the first season of the Swedish Big Brother series where he came in second?

FYI, I lived in Hermosa Beach, California, in the 1960s = shows you how old I am!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:25, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Shaker Seed Company

On 23 June 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shaker Seed Company, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Shakers were the first to package seeds for sale in small paper envelopes that were sold through the Shaker Seed Company (box label pictured)? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shaker Seed Company. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:15, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Operation Sahayogi Haat

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Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:16, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Shaker tilting chair

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I noticed

that some of the Brookgreen Gardens pictures were yours, that is what prevented me from removing all the ones that did not have a sculptor's name attached. Then I settled down a bit and might try to add them myself. I might be, hope to be, heading out there in the Fall. Carptrash (talk) 14:47, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Shaker-style pantry box

On 29 June 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shaker-style pantry box, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Shaker-style pantry boxes (pictured) are associated with Shaker folklife because they "express the utility and uniformity valued in Shaker culture"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shaker-style pantry box. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:20, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Millennial Praises

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Please see new note on DYK nomination template. Yoninah (talk) 22:31, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Shaker tilting chair

On 3 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shaker tilting chair, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Shaker tilting chair lets its occupant lean back without the chair slipping and scraping the floor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shaker tilting chair. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 01:11, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination

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DYK for Shaker broom vise

On 5 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shaker broom vise, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the flat broom (pictured) was originally made in the Shaker broom vise? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shaker broom vise. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Do try and pass this thank you on. Thanks. Victuallers (talk) 00:10, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Corbett (Shaker doctor)

On 7 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Thomas Corbett (Shaker doctor), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Thomas Corbett, a Shaker doctor, developed an electrostatic medical device in 1810 as a "cure" for rheumatism? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Corbett (Shaker doctor). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:51, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Dixi Crosby

On 8 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dixi Crosby, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Dixi Crosby was the first surgeon in the United States to be sued for medical malpractice? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dixi Crosby. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:22, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mary Whitcher

On 11 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mary Whitcher, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mary Whitcher wrote the first published Shaker cookbook? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Whitcher. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 23:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Experiments and Observations on Electricity

On 21 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Experiments and Observations on Electricity, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Experiments and Observations on Electricity is Benjamin Franklin's only scientific book? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Experiments and Observations on Electricity. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Spare QPQ

Use Template:Did you know nominations/Osama bin Laden (elephant) 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:29, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks and thanks for the improvements on Wistarburgh Glass Works. I'll stay clear for awhile so we don't have any edit conflicts. I have other things to work on.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm kind of done, except for a couple of minor housekeeping thingies. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:40, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

[[1]] needs to be fixed as a redirect. Thanx. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:10, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Corbett's electrostatic machine

On 22 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Corbett's electrostatic machine, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the electrical principles of an electrostatic machine invented by a Shaker doctor in 1810 for medical treatment were later used by Thomas Edison? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Corbett's electrostatic machine. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Millennial Praises

On 24 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Millennial Praises, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the first hymn in the first Shaker hymn book reflects the Shaker belief that God is both male and female? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Millennial Praises. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks for your help with the project Victuallers (talk) 01:52, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Benjamin Loxley

On 26 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Benjamin Loxley, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that it was Benjamin Loxley's house key that was used by Benjamin Franklin for his kite experiment to attract lightning? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Benjamin Loxley. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 01:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wistarburgh Glass Works

On 30 July 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wistarburgh Glass Works, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Wistarburgh Glass Works was America's first successful glass factory? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wistarburgh Glass Works. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Bathsheba's spring and bower

Hello! Your submission of Bathsheba's spring and bower at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Dravecky (talk) 05:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Follow=up ping. - Dravecky (talk) 14:27, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

A QPQ is required; please see the nomination page. ~ Rob^Talk 10:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Richard McNemar

On 6 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Richard McNemar, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Richard McNemar, the "father of Shaker music", was the most prolific composer of Shaker hymns and anthems? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Richard McNemar. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 17:22, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

14 artciles of Yucatan

Thanks for the messages of thanks you have given on the many articles for which I have added content in the last two days. I have now completed my inputs for all the 14 articles and they now qualify for DYK. Please check them so that Rob does not pick holes in them again. The revised character count of each article is given below. @Dr. Blofeld: I have done the needful as suggested. Pl see. @SusunW:. You may like to check my inputs. I hope it will go through now.--Nvvchar. 06:50, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Hocabá Municipality - 2165 characters
Huhí Municipality - 2004 characters
Sanahcat Municipality - 2024 characters
Sotuta Municipality – 3824 characters
Dzemul Municipality - 2937 characters
Dzilam González Municipality - 1636 characters
Mocochá Municipality - 2086 characters
Muxupip Municipality - 2412 characters
Sinanché Municipality - 2319 characters
Dzidzantún Municipality - 1949 characters
Suma Municipality - 2344 characters
Telchac Puerto Municipality - 1906 characters
Temax Municipality - 2088 characters
Yaxkukul Municipality - 1658 characters

@Nvvchar: You have done an outstanding job on these. I looked them over and see no mistakes. I'm sure they will go through now. I've asked Dr. Blofeld to add you as co-author because of the extensive improvements you have done. Way to go!!!!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Should I record the revised characters details of each article on the DYK?--Nvvchar. 12:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Nvvchar:yes, definitely.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 12:59, 8 August 2015 (UTC)Dr

@Nvvchar, Doug Coldwell, and Dr. Blofeld: I concur. They are wonderful. I added Nvvchar yesterday and Rob acknowledged it. SusunW (talk) 14:06, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@SusunW: No, you need to add Nvv's name to the 14 hook credits DYKmake/DYK nom etc scroll down the nom under the hook [2]♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: This comment by his highness won't do it? It was his acknowledgment to my adding Nvv. "TO DYK VOLUNTEER: PLEASE NOTE that Nvvchar has contributed to all of these articles and has been added to the author list above after these credits were auto-generated. Please evaluate the authorship of these articles prior to promoting. You likely will need to add to these auto-generated credits. Thanks!" SusunW (talk) 15:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Doc and SusunW: I've gone ahead and added fourteen DYKmake credits for Nvvchar. While I was at it, I also removed the DYKmakes of the three removed articles from the main list of them and placed them below. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 15:10, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@SusunW: (edit conflict) Great! The "credits" look good to me. Now Nvvchar will get credit also - as he deserves. @Thine Antique Pen: -> Thanks for doing that. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:22, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

@Thine Antique Pen: Thank you! SusunW (talk) 15:15, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Franklin's electrostatic machine

On 9 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Franklin's electrostatic machine, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Franklin's electrostatic machine (pictured) led to the invention of the lightning rod? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Franklin's electrostatic machine. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks for helping Victuallers (talk) 04:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

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Question about DYK review

Hi Doug. Just to make sure, you're reviewing the individual hooks, not the multiple article hook, at Template:Did you know nominations/Mining industry of Guinea, right? ~ Rob^Talk 14:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, answered on Template.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:36, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Just wanted to make sure I eventually promote the right hook! ~ Rob^Talk 02:03, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Card table

Hello! Your submission of Hammond Electric Bridge Table at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Philafrenzy (talk) 09:04, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bathsheba's spring and bower

On 16 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bathsheba's spring and bower, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a 1700s Philadelphia property named Bathsheba's spring and bower was said to be the first spa in the Society Hill area? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bathsheba's spring and bower. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:47, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Benjamin Loxley house

On 21 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Benjamin Loxley house, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Benjamin Loxley house is noted in history as the place where a Quakeress overheard secret British plans and passed them on to George Washington, saving the Continental Army? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Benjamin Loxley house. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

A good friend

		The Good Friend Award
		It has been a pleasure knowing you. You have been a real friend. Thanks for the help you gave us in the Yucatan articles and also in the mining articles, which has again run into some problems.--Nvvchar. 06:51, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Wow! Thank you.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:13, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Take a look

..at the article about Ester Claesson and Lo Kauppi. Thank you.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:57, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

@BabbaQ: Lo Kauppi needs more sub-Headers and article expansion.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:10, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@BabbaQ: Ester Claesson is very good quality and could be a DYK nomination with is considered Sweden's first female landscape architect if you havn't done so already. Now would be the time to make the self-nomination.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Chester H. Pond

On 26 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chester H. Pond, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Chester H. Pond invented the first electrical self-winding clock? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chester H. Pond. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 08:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Michigan Heritage Park

After many hours of assembling my very first wiki article, it was shot down within an hour. I was going to abandon it. Then a week or so later, I see several people, including you, working on it and polishing it. I took a look at the copyvio and what is showed is that the majority of the red notations are proper names and nouns. There were a couple of sections that I re-edited, but if you remove the proper names and nouns, there is very little copyright violations. I doubt that the Ottawa Indians have copyrighted the name, but it is noted in this software.

I looked at your pictures and I must be daft, because I don't see where and how you categorize the photos. There are only a few, so is it really important? I have at least 500 photos on the Commons of the historic buildings in Michigan. I have edited the Michigan Historic site page quite a bit as I add photos and correct addresses and such. None of these 500+ photos have been categorized.-- Wingerham52 (talk) 14:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

The article is a good article, similar idea to Colonial Williamsburg outdoor history concept. It will get passed. I'll work on it some more today as time allows.

Yes, it is important on the pictures to categorize them. I'll get back to you this afternoon and show you some that I will do -> to get you started. Some have been picked up by others and already categorized. I'll do some related to Michigan Heritage Park so you get an idea how to do them in the future. Category is how other editors find your pictures to use in future articles. Without a category they won't have any idea what the picture pertains to. All pictures are categorized (or suppose to be). I'll help you on this.

@Wingerham52: This is how I categorized File:Fur Trader Cabin.jpg. Look at the very bottom of that picture file. Yes, very important to categorize all pictures. Will get back to you in a couple of hours.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:58, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@Wingerham52 and Doug Coldwell: This is an example for File Wigwam Village.jpg and how I changed it from uncategorized to Category:Michigan Heritage Park in Commons. Before it was uncategorized and then looked like this at the bottom of the File. I then put in Category Michigan Heritage Park. That is what needs to be done for all the pictures taken at Michigan Heritage Park. When you uploaded the pictures you were asked what Category -and- you bypassed this step, causing an uncategorized picture. Somebody has to Categorize the pictures and it should be the uploader (you). Otherwise somebody else has double-duty as they have to Categorize their own pictures and then yours. Too much work for one person! Does that get you going in the right direction? Look at Commons under my Contributions and "diff". Its a learning curve.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:58, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@Wingerham52: In Commons look at the bottom of Category:Michigan Heritage Park and you will see Category:History museums in Michigan = that's how other editors find related pictures for upcoming new articles.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@Wingerham52: I have about 2500 pictures I uploaded to Commons. They all have at least 1 category and many have several Categories, like this one. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:33, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@Wingerham52: Based on my editing experience, I would say this should pass and could even become a Did You Know article. It looks real good!--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:57, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Wingerham52: These are the Commons Categories of Michigan. As you can see there are sub-categories, and sub-categories under those, etc. That's how editors find pictures to use = since they are categorized and easy to find. Much like Flickr with picture albums. I have over 30,000 Flickr pictures and they are all in an album. I have over 600 picture albums. Commons categories are like picture albums. When an editor needs a picture they look under a Category and maybe under a sub-category is just the picture that will work for his/her new article (that has already been uploaded and copyright free). Otherwise an editor would have to go out in the world each time and find a picture(s) for their new article = like reinventing the wheel each time. I don't know how many pictures at Commons, but I suspect hundreds of thousands if not millions. They all must be put into pigeon holes so they can be found later. Like sorting mail = each picture has a zip code (category). Does that make sense?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:49, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@Wingerham52: Commons Category:Michigan -> Category:History of Michigan -> Category:History museums in Michigan -> Category:Michigan Heritage Park = now the picture is in the correct category (album).--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Amateur Radio

As a side note. I see you built a crystal radio as a kid. Same here. Got the wireless bug and now I am an Amateur Extra Class ham.-- Wingerham52 (talk) 14:39, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Many decades ago I played with Amateur Radio. Now I play with PCs. One thing leads to another. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:57, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Crystal set. Me too. Used to listen to WBZ and WLS, two Clear channel stations. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:07, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Now we just send out vibes and bypass the radio thing.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

What is cool is that I combine both that and PC's. I pretty much run digital modes now. There are a bunch of them. No talking, no speakers, just a computer screen and lots of typing. It is great fun to nail someone in the far flung corners of the world. And the Amateurs write some really cool software.

Wingerham52 (talk) 20:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject TAFI

Hello, Doug Coldwell. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's articles for improvement, a project dedicated to significantly improving articles with collaborative editing in a week's time.

Feel free to nominate an article for improvement at the project's Article nomination board. If interested in joining, please add your name to the list of members. Thanks for your consideration. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Michigan Heritage Park

I will ponder your suggestion to expand on the subjects at the park. The problem is that these are significant subjects that are covered in extensive detail elsewhere on Wikipedia. I didn't want to be redundant and my original posting had links to all the details on Wikipedia, if a reader wanted to delve into the subject more in depth. I also have pictures of the reanacters, but I do not have model releases to be able to post them. I did this because I wanted to try and create a brand new page and to do a little promotion of this unique new historical park. It will never be a Greenwich Village, but it is designed to educate school kids and the public on what life was like for humans in Michigan. I also wanted to illustrate what a person's vision and money, working along with a public institution can create. I will go back into my 500+ photos and try to categorize them. It may take a while. 99% of the pictures are either Michigan historic sites or National Historic Sites. I did come in No.1 in the Wikicommons Photo Challenge for June. I will see if anyone did that for me for that photo. Thanks for all your help and supporting me. I really didn't have a clue what I was getting in to. There is a lot, lot more to making a page than I ever considered. --Wingerham52 (talk) 20:52, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, there is a lot of work to create a good article. I always aim for an article that will ultimately become a Did You Know article. Michigan Heritage Park will someday be one of those. Here is my list of DYKs. Under my picture shows videos on the research I do for an article. Back in 2010 I was on the Ludington Daily News front page for writing up local Wikipedia articles. I only play with Wikipedia 8 hours a day, seven days a week - there are some even crazier than myself. Been doing it since my retirement.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:07, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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