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North American release date

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Where does the release date "May 21, 2003" for North America come from? According to Nintendo of America's former site in the Internet Archive, it is actually May 26. IGN says the same. --Grandy02 (talk) 21:35, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Split proposed

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WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Party Games! is notable enough and different enough to WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgames! to have its own article.

Notability

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... among many others.

Difference to Mega Microgames!

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While the meat of the game (the microgames) are completely the same as the Game Boy Advance version, Mega Party Games! is presented completely differently and is a different game. While Mega Microgames! is a singleplayer-focused, linear experience designed for one player, Mega Party Games! is a party game designed for two to four players. The two have different modes and different output experiences.

If there's no refute to a split, I'll move ahead with it within a few days. ~ P*h3i (📨) 05:02, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Name

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The name is clearly Mega Microgame$. Wolf O'Donnel (talk) 00:54, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The stylized name is noted under Notes, and it shouldn't be used in the article title or body per MOS:TM. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 01:19, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spliting standalone minigames from WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgames! for the DSiWare

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No consensus in favor of creating the articles. There seems to be no consensus or general agreement on whether these articles would be best left into a merged article or split out. Something concerning to me, however, was that there was little explicit citation of the relevant notability policies, guidelines, or essays within this discussion, such as Wikipedia:Notability (video games). It may be necessary for those who want the articles to create drafts and submit them via WP:AFC. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:49, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Paper Airplane Chase and Bird & Beans have articles on Super Mario Wiki, however these games needs spliting. Longplay Watcher (talk) 14:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support - While apparently pretty not great, they both pass the Metacritic test. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 20:43, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Reading the article, it's pretty clear those are two WP:COATRACK sections. Neo-corelight (Talk) 10:07, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Their "reviews" are exceptionally short and mostly duplicate what would already exist in a fully expanded version of this article. They should only split out summary style when warranted by an overabundance of content. Right now, it's not even sourced/built in this parent article. czar 16:57, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support These are, in fact, separate games. If they see no improvement after a few months, we can merge them back. QuicoleJR (talk) 15:16, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I am honestly amused by the idea of these games getting their own articles, but I don't know how feasible it is. There's very little content as it is in this article, and I haven't been able to find any development information. Logistically, even if it passes, I'm not sure that anyone here is going to make a separate article. I think it would be best if we made the DSiWare games fit into the prose better and not coat rack it. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 11:06, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment As in 2021, I still support the idea of making them separate articles. They got an indisputably large amount of standalone reviews, they have additional modes that aren't in the original, there is easily enough to form an article with full description of gameplay and reception even if they lack development info. They simply aren't the exact same games that are in WarioWare, and Bird & Beans even got a name change. WP:NOTPAPER applies here. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:25, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Czar. There are only 6-7 reviews for each of these "minigames". Reception can be covered here instead of a separate article. OceanHok (talk) 04:37, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Even if they're determined to be notable (IMO, it's borderline, leaning toward not), they still would be better covered here as an integrated article rather than split out into permastubs that duplicate a lot of the content from this article. Axem Titanium (talk) 05:12, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I guess I would MAYBE Support, but I'd need to see a proof of concept to show that the articles would be justifiably separate without being forever stubs. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 09:13, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. They are not just the minigames ripped directly out of the WarioWare title, but rather their own programs resembling them. RayanWP (talk) 20:49, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Zxcvbnm: @RayanWP: @QuicoleJR: @Neocorelight: @Longplay Watcher: Can any of you provide a draft for what the article might be? I feel as though even if the games are notable independently, I'm unsure whether they would work as standalone. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 06:23, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, if it's at the point where I'd have to provide a full draft article to convince people, I'd rather just allow it to remain a single article. It feels dismissive but there are more major games without articles to worry about while these minigames already have a place in another article at the very least. If people feel strongly enough to make a draft that may or may not be accepted anyway, then go for it. I think articles would be a good thought but it doesn't appear there is consensus. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:12, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you're being dismissive, it's just hard for me to judge without seeing how it would ultimately look. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 12:37, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I can try. This might take me a while though. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:37, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Cukie Gherkin: What do you think of [[1]]? QuicoleJR (talk) 16:55, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
[2] You could incorporate this tidbit. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 16:58, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done QuicoleJR (talk) 17:12, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Czar: @OceanHok: @Axem Titanium: Would any of you be willing to reconsider splitting this off? QuicoleJR (talk) 17:37, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reason to do so when no countervailing evidence has been provided. These minigames can be adequately covered in the main article, where readers would expect to find them, and as is standard practice. czar 11:34, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
And why all the information there can't be mentioned here? OceanHok (talk) 13:03, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, I'm still of the mind that the way it's set up now isn't great, but also there's just not enough meat even to make a duo-game article. Oppose splitting. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 23:33, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Sources

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Cukie Gherkin (talk) 10:57, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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