Talk:Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic
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POV issues
[edit]I removed the most heavy ones. And nominated the article for POV-check. In particular the following paragraph should be examined:
During the Soviet period, Islam became a focal point for the antireligious drives of Communist authorities. The government closed most mosques, and religious schools became antireligious museums. Uzbeks who remained practicing Muslims were deemed nationalist and often targeted for imprisonment or execution. On the positive side, was the virtual elimination of illiteracy, even in rural areas. Only a small percentage of the population was literate before 1917; this percentage increased to nearly 100 percent under the Soviets. Cmapm 11:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't actually think there is anything wrong (apart from the mis-spelling of "practising"). illiteracy did virtually disappear in the Soviet period, Islam was targeted in the early years of Soviet rule. One thing that could be added is that during the second world war a few mosques were re-opened and the office of Mufti revived in Tashkent as Stalin was anxious to secure Muslim support. Limited official toleration of Islam remained throughout the post-war period. Sikandarji 09:22, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Proposed move to Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic
[edit]It seems that given that the formal name for this nation was "Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic", the soviet prefix abbreviation (-"SSR") shouldn't be in the full article name. Therefore, I propose to move the article to its full form, Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic. We wouldn't have an article about North Korea titled "DPRK", would we? --Micahbrwn (talk) 09:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
- Please discuss this multimove here --Lox (t,c) 11:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
"was one of the 15 republics"
[edit]It is not correct statement. When Uzbek SSR was formed it was one of the 7 republics, and in 1940-1956 it was one of the 16. — Hellerick (talk) 07:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Copyright problem removed
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Article editing
[edit]There are certain users who have been editing other SSR articles on Wikipedia for the past year, by stating that the soviet republics existed until the adoption of their new constitutions in the mid-1990s.
Uzbek SSR declared itself independent and changed its name to the Uzbekistan in 1991, and there are absolutely no arguments to back up that this state existed until 1992. That would be rewriting history. A new state is not just a matter of all-new constitutions, but also of its status and form of government. Afghanistan has had a lot of states since the abolishment of monarchy in the 1970s: the First Republic (1973–1978), Democratic Republic/Second Republic (1978–1992), the Islamic State (1992–2001), the Islamic Emirate (1996–2001), the Afghan Interim Administration (2001–2002), the Afghan Transitional Administration (2002–2004), and the present-day Islamic Republic since 2004. Yet they have only had four constitutions since then: 1976, 1987, 1990 and 2004. Is that to say that we should change these year spans totally as well, so that most of these states didn't exist? The People's Republic of Hungary ended in 1989, but an all-new constitution was first made in 2011. Should we also say that the PR of Hungary existed until 2011, then? That would make little sense. Although Uzbekistan did not adopt a new constitution before 1992, there's no doubt about that it was a totally different state. It had a totally different form of government, its name was changed, it was an independent state (not a federated state), it was not a Soviet socialist republic. These factors are a lot more independent than the adoption of an all-new constitution. And although the constitution was not all-new, and formally the same constitution although heavily amended, it was amended to fit a new state and was not really the same constitution in practice. You'll have to agree that the 1991 transition is a lot more historically significant change in Uzbekistan's history than the adoption of a new constitution. A.h. king • Talk to me! 00:23, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Bits and pieces
[edit]"Further bits and pieces of territory were transferred several times between Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan after World War II." Do we have any sourcing on this? --Golbez (talk) 19:41, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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The last nation to leave the Soviet Union?
[edit]"In the aftermath, the Uzbek SSR was renamed the Republic of Uzbekistan and declared its independence on 31 August 1991, formally remaining a part of the Soviet Union until 26 December 1991."
What does "formally" mean? All articles state that Kazakhstan was the last nation to leave the Union, but this refers that it was formally Uzbekistan however independence of the country can be dated on 31 August.
2A02:AB88:102:700:6061:F0E6:5D8F:F0EB (talk) 07:57, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Kazakhstan was definitely the last republic to declare independence, but to a purely objective viewer, you would see all of these as still claimed by the Soviet Union until when it formally dissolved on December 26. They aren't saying it was the last to leave, just that it was in dispute until December 26. I agree it could be worded better. I'll see what I can do. --Golbez (talk) 14:21, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
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