Talk:Typhoon Ike

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December 7, 2020	WikiProject A-class review	Approved

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Todo

More intro and impact. Jdorje 19:40, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Todo (2017)

Go through LN
Go through Relief Web 1 2
Google Scholar stuff. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:58, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Courcelles (talk · contribs) 00:48, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This one's been sitting here a while, let's take a look. Courcelles (talk) 00:48, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Assume "Typhoon Ike also struck a country a mere" should read "the country"?
- Done. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll admit I might be missing it, but why isn't the year mentioned in the lead?
- Added. If the title had the year in it, it wouldn't be necessary though. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Of course, but this one doesn't :) Courcelles (talk) 14:32, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"Ike briefly attained typhoon status briefly" Two briefly's in five words...
- Axed the second. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:56, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"6,000 residencies" Don't you mean residences?
- Yes. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"perfecture" is not a word.
- Fixed the typo. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"The storm brought 76–127 mm (3.0–5.0 in) to most of the affected areas" The words "of rain" belong in there somewhere.
- Good call. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"died fish," You mean dried.
- Yes. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"of skin milk."???
- Fixed I think. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I've got. Courcelles (talk) 01:08, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 06:55, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Promoting. Courcelles (talk) 14:32, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A-class review

Typhoon Ike

Archived discussion. Current status: {{A-Class}}

Typhoon Ike, known in the Philippines as Typhoon Nitang, of 1984 was the strongest tropical cyclone to strike the Philippines since Typhoon Joan of the 1970 Pacific typhoon season. - the placement of the year is odd. Could you find another way of including the year? The year doesn't even have to be in the first sentence.
- The problem is I kind of have to mention the year because of the Joan reference. I tried something unorthodox. Like it? YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Ehh, it's a bit complicated for the first sentence. Could you save the Joan reference til later in the lead? Maybe instead, do something like "Typhoon Ike was the second deadliest tropical cyclone in the 20th century in the Philippines, where it was known as Typhoon Nitang. That way, it has its place in history and it immediately places its sense of importance, even higher than exactly when it was, which you can do in the 2nd sentence. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:47, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - That works. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
organized into a tropical depression. Following an increase in organization - don't use "organize"/"organization" so soon after another
- Fixed. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Initially tracking west-southwest, decreased wind shear resulted in an accelerated strengthening trend - the shear tracked WSW?
- Re-wrote. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Continuing to rapidly intensity, Ike turned west and attained peak intensity on September 1. - which was?
- Depends on who you ask. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - I think you should mention its official peak intensity in the lead somewhere, at least. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:47, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - Fine, added. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Link UTC on its first usage
- Sure. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The cyclone emerged into the South China Sea on September 3 as a tropical storm before striking the Chinese mainland as a tropical storm in the Guangxi province and dissipated on September 6. - you should mention the restrengthening and Hainan landfall
- Added. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Typhoon Ike also struck the country a mere four days after Tropical Storm June inundated the northern portion of the Philippines and also was suffering from the nation's worst economic crisis since independence in 1946. - since the last thing you mentioned was Guam, be clearer about where you're referring to the country.
- Good call. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - You say "Philippines" twice in the same sentence now :/ ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:47, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It also left a path of destruction in the Philippines that at the time was unparalleled in modern Philippine history. - could you reword that?
- Better? Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
resulting in nearly 75,000 people without a home after a river burst its banks. - it's missing a word
- Re-worded. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Overall, 1,426 people were killed as a result of the typhoon. - infobox says 1,474, unless you just meant Philippines
- Clarified it was just the Philippines.
At the time, Ike was the deadliest typhoon to hit the country during the 20th century, surpassing the previous record of Typhoon Amy in 1951. - you could add "and later surpassed by Tropical Storm Thelma."
- That's a bit too much detail for my tastes, plus that'd be hard to verify. YE ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't think it would be too much. Use this to verify the addition. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:47, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    - I can add it to the body (and I did), sure, but the lead is a bit too much IMO. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nationwide, 46 people were killed and 12,000 ha (29,651 acres) of sugar cane were destroyed and about 1,315,420 kg (2,900,000 lb) of vegetables were lost. - that's a bit of a runon
- Fixed. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is just the lead. I didn't go through the whole article, because given the lead, the article needs a good amount of more work to do. I did notice one other thing:

Elsewhere, the outer extremities of Ike produced light rainfall and light breezes on Okinawa, peaking at 3.8 mm (0.15 in),[58] including 3.3 mm (0.13 in) in 24 hours and 2.2 mm (0.087 in) in an hour in Ibaruma. - while I appreciate your thoroughness, I don't think it's worth noting 3.3 mm of rainfall in 24 hours. Maybe, IDK, but these are incredibly small rainfall totals. Maybe say something like, "most of the precipitation feel in a one hour period"? But even then, I don't know if it's technically accurate.
- That works. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:45, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I addressed everything here @Hurricanehink:. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:29, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More

The meteorological history of Typhoon Ike can be traced back to an area of disturbed weather first identified as part of the region's monsoon trough southeast of Guam on August 21. - Maybe "origins" instead of met history, since it's clear that's what the section is about by its title.
- Sure. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
this prompted the Japan Meteorological Agency (JMA) to start monitoring the system at 06:00 UTC on August 26 - monitor, or did the JMA classify it as a tropical depression? (hint, it's the latter, notice the "2" marker in the BT)
- Good call. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
allowing both the JMA and the JTWC to upgrade the system to tropical storm intensity on August 27 - here would be a good point to add the name
- Added. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Initially, the lingering presence of wind shear slowed intensification,[1] but data from the JTWC suggested that Ike briefly attained typhoon status on August 29 as wind shear temporarily decreased. - kinda sloppy/complicated. You already mentioned the debilitating wind shear in the previous paragraph.
- Cut down. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The combination of increased wind shear induced by a trough passing to the storm's north and the typhoon's proximity to land caused Ike to weaken prior to its September 5 landfall on Hainan as a minimal typhoon. - could this sentence be split into two? You're trying to cover a lot.
- Split into two. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
After traversing the island, the storm continued to weaken and both the JTWC and JMA estimated that it moved into the Chinese mainland as a tropical storm 110 km (68 mi) southeast of Nanning, - note the comma. Also, the timing is odd. You say "after" and "continued" in the same thought. What would work better is - "Ike continued weakening while traversing the island, entering the Chinese mainland..."
- Re-worked. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Prior to its first landfall, a typhoon warning was issued by the Manila Weather Bureau - get rid of the passive voice. You never clarify what the "its" here, which could imply a Manila Weather Bureau landfall.
- Cleared up. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Further north, in Hong Kong, a No 1. hurricane signal was issued on September 4 and later that day was upped to a No 3. hurricane signal, but this signal was dropped once the storm dissipated inland. - is this redundant with you mentioning the typhoon warnings between HK and Beihai?
- I don't see why it would be. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Typhoon Ike also struck the country a mere four days after Tropical Storm June inundated the northern portion of the country, which claimed 53 lives[21] and the islands were also suffering from the worst economic crisis since independence in 1946. - that's a lot for one sentence. The economic crisis bit should be a separate sentence.
- Divided. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Could you update Ike's death toll in the template for deadliest Philippine typhoons?
- Looks like another template I need to re-do, but yea, sure. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

More later. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:47, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 16:19, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have upgraded Typhoon Ike to A-class, since there is no more activity from Hurricanehink regarding this review and most of the fixes are done. Closing. AAlertBot: I hope you're doing things right. SMB9 9thx my edits! 05:42, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]